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Game-o-rama => General Gaming => Pokemon => Topic started by: Rayquarian on July 11, 2008, 02:46:28 PM

Title: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Rayquarian on July 11, 2008, 02:46:28 PM
I'm not going to buy Pokemon X Version or Pokemon Y Version.  I'll wait for Pokemon Z Version.  unless there's a remake of Gold and Silver in that generation.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 05:52:36 PM
I'm just curious on why you think any of us care.
So why do you think we care?
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 11, 2008, 05:54:11 PM
I wonder that generation 5 will be like! :)
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Nobody on July 11, 2008, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 05:52:36 PM
I'm just curious on why you think any of us care.
So why do you think we care?
I care......

I agree with you raquarian, I think I'll wait it out, as hard as it will be. the visuals and story in D/P were meh, but they're getting a major overhaul in platinum, so yeah, I'll probably do the same thing (d/p is the first generation where I haven't gotten both since firered and leafgreen)
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
Generation 5? Hmm...maybe at a later date.

(http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg)

=( i want that in my future or nothing G2 > G1,G3,G4, G5..G6...
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
Generation 5? Hmm...maybe at a later date.

(http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg)
The url is http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg
and to those who don't see it, I'll take it out: fake
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
Generation 5? Hmm...maybe at a later date.

(http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg)
The url is http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg
and to those who don't see it, I'll take it out: fake

I know it's fake lulz, but thats what I want to see besides G5....
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:46:01 PM
The only thing I don't really get is how the heck Nintendo will think up 100+ new Pokemon. I mean, considering that most Pokemon are just real-life animals changed around slightly, and almost all animals have been used already, it seems a bit difficult in my eyes to find more animals to use.

Except maybe a sea urchin. That would just be awesome.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:46:01 PM
The only thing I don't really get is how the heck Nintendo will think up 100+ new Pokemon. I mean, considering that most Pokemon are just real-life animals changed around slightly, and almost all animals have been used already, it seems a bit difficult in my eyes to find more animals to use.

Except maybe a sea urchin. That would just be awesome.
They can use animals again. And they have plenty of time to do it.

Quote from: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Leggy on July 11, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
Generation 5? Hmm...maybe at a later date.

(http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg)
The url is http://www.pokemondiamondpearl.info/dp/fake_goldsilverds5yrhi07.jpg
and to those who don't see it, I'll take it out: fake

I know it's fake lulz, but thats what I want to see besides G5....
I didn't think you didn't know, I was just sayin' for those who may think it's real.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:46:01 PM
The only thing I don't really get is how the heck Nintendo will think up 100+ new Pokemon. I mean, considering that most Pokemon are just real-life animals changed around slightly, and almost all animals have been used already, it seems a bit difficult in my eyes to find more animals to use.

Except maybe a sea urchin. That would just be awesome.
They can use animals again. And they have plenty of time to do it.

Of course they CAN, but how many creature options do they really have left?
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 09:46:01 PM
The only thing I don't really get is how the heck Nintendo will think up 100+ new Pokemon. I mean, considering that most Pokemon are just real-life animals changed around slightly, and almost all animals have been used already, it seems a bit difficult in my eyes to find more animals to use.

Except maybe a sea urchin. That would just be awesome.
They can use animals again. And they have plenty of time to do it.

Of course they CAN, but how many creature options do they really have left?
Plenty, especially since they are now mutating animals, like Ligers and Tigons.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Fish on July 11, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
G5 will be an interesting series. I guarantee it's will be overloaded with new features that make the game extremely complicated. =P
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
Quote from: Fish on July 11, 2008, 10:11:42 PM
G5 will be an interesting series. I guarantee it's will be overloaded with new features that make the game extremely complicated. =P

It's already complicated enough for my tastes; heck, I never even got 'em all in Red/Blue.

I look forward to my Steel-type Eevee though.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 10:20:39 PM
Personally, I think Pokemon needs to become more complicated.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 10:20:39 PM
Personally, I think Pokemon needs to become more complicated.

Why, and what would you suggest be introduced?

One thing I can think of is having the Pokemon sprites actually changed based on damage, and having potions and stuff be visible in battle (show how they work), but that doesn't quite influence the gameplay itself.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
Well, I was thinking that, but I did not think that it would be as easy to introduce as you might think. I was thinking more along the lines of, maybe every region,and a much better story. Maybe complicated was not the right word...
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
The thing is, though, can a DS fit all that region-age into a single cart? The next "version" will almost surely be for a handheld, and the DS is only so big.

Also, the story... Can we really get that expansive without relying on the now-cliche but necessary components of Pokemon--the evil Pokemon organization, defeating them, and then beating the Elite Four with your new legendary?
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 11, 2008, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 11, 2008, 10:59:44 PM
The thing is, though, can a DS fit all that region-age into a single cart? The next "version" will almost surely be for a handheld, and the DS is only so big.

Also, the story... Can we really get that expansive without relying on the now-cliche but necessary components of Pokemon--the evil Pokemon organization, defeating them, and then beating the Elite Four with your new legendary?
It doesn't HAVE to be on a handheld, I don't see why people don't understand that it can be D/P (or slightly better) graphics and then be on the Wii.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 11, 2008, 11:34:56 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.
Yeah, Consoles always get the crappy Collisseum games!
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
But a console game can expand on the series alot! Make it true 3D third person movement but have the area the same and everything. make it look something like collessium but with improved graphics and have grass and excellent online.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
But a console game can expand on the series alot! Make it true 3D third person movement but have the area the same and everything. make it look something like collessium but with improved graphics and have grass and excellent online.
No, 3D ruined Pok?mon. Birdseye-view non-3D movement ftw!
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
But a console game can expand on the series alot! Make it true 3D third person movement but have the area the same and everything. make it look something like collessium but with improved graphics and have grass and excellent online.
No, 3D ruined Pok?mon. Birdseye-view non-3D movement ftw!
Ok. What if it were 3D birdseye view?
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
But a console game can expand on the series alot! Make it true 3D third person movement but have the area the same and everything. make it look something like collessium but with improved graphics and have grass and excellent online.
No, 3D ruined Pok?mon. Birdseye-view non-3D movement ftw!
Ok. What if it were 3D birdseye view?
That would look stupid.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: JrDude on July 12, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 12, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Level_9_Chao on July 12, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 11:14:36 PM
I hate to say it, but I agree with Ryker. I have always wanted a true non-handheld Pokemon game.

So have I, but I'm just thinking that realistically if Nintendo wanted to do such a thing, they'd have probably tried it already. Also, Pokemon does seem the type of game that would be easiest to play if portable and easy to access. Just turn it on, catch a guy or two on the bus or something, and have the option to turn it off. Find a random friend at school and trade. Simpler. Console games often require more time dedicated to playing.
But a console game can expand on the series alot! Make it true 3D third person movement but have the area the same and everything. make it look something like collessium but with improved graphics and have grass and excellent online.
No, 3D ruined Pok?mon. Birdseye-view non-3D movement ftw!
Ok. What if it were 3D birdseye view?
That would look stupid.
I suppose so
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: jnfs2014 on July 12, 2008, 12:48:43 PM
2011 to 2012 probably.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on July 13, 2008, 12:09:41 AM
If they'd do what they did with D/P, but let you maybe screw with the camera, you'd be able to get more of a 3D Effect if you moved the camera closer to the ground. If you ever go into the the Eterna City Gym, you'd notice what I mean than if you notice the angle from outside.

If that's confusing, go to Eterna City's Gym, and notice how the camera is different than it is from when you're outside the gym, or anywhere else outside. Also, when you're inside of stark mountain, the camera is pulled back farther from the character, which makes him look smaller; which mor or less makes the entire inside of the cavern appear big (Though, even without that trick, it is rather big in there anyway)
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: jnfs2014 on July 13, 2008, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 11, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
Well, I was thinking that, but I did not think that it would be as easy to introduce as you might think. I was thinking more along the lines of, maybe every region,and a much better story. Maybe complicated was not the right word...
Yeah, better is much better.
Title: Re: When Generation 5 comes around...
Post by: Nayrman on July 13, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
Um...good for you?
I usually skip every other generation now...since they're getting progressively LESS per generation, nad it seems that the every other seems to have better advancements.