A pokémon sort of like the personification of everything evil in the world. They say that there's no such things as evil pokémon (bar the Evil Fox pokémon). Well, I'd like to see one that's representative of evil.
Eh....when it came out, Darkrai was the epitome of evil, but it was changed in the Rise of Darkrai movie. I however think it's still evil, as seen in the mystery dungeon series.
Mewtwo wanted to raise a clone army to kill every living thing on the planet... until Ash died and made him all nice and stuff. Can't blame him, though; Ash dying can make anyone cheer up.
We already have one.
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inb4 red swirly screaming skull pokemon...
Well, they seem to be going for a Yin/Yang motif with these two. So we might be seeing one.
Quote from: Rius on May 31, 2010, 06:33:04 PM
We already have one.
[spoiler](http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/magikarp-swear.gif)[/spoiler]
I agree completly
I've always thought that the 666th Pokémon should be something of a Dark-Fire Type, but stand upright like a Fighting or--some--Psychic Types. Maybe it could carry a little black stick or something for a spear. I don't think that that's that outlandish (yes, that's grammatically correct), as we've seen other Pokémon carry weapons and other items before (e.g. Kadabra, Alakazam, Farfetch'd, technically Smeargle, Cubone, and Marowak).
Then again, Pokémon of America might not allow something blatantly evil. :(
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on June 05, 2010, 05:45:57 PM
I've always thought that the 666th Pokémon should be something of a Dark-Fire Type, but stand upright like a Fighting or--some--Psychic Types. Maybe it could carry a little black stick or something for a spear. I don't think that that's that outlandish (yes, that's grammatically correct), as we've seen other Pokémon carry weapons and other items before (e.g. Kadabra, Alakazam, Farfetch'd, technically Smeargle, Cubone, and Marowak).
Then again, Pokémon of America might not allow something blatantly evil. :(
They allowed Ash, didn't they. ;) :| :(
Seriously though, I definitely can't see that happening. This isn't Digimon, you know.
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 06, 2010, 04:24:34 PM
They allowed Ash, didn't they. ;) :| :(
Seriously though, I definitely can't see that happening. This isn't Digimon, you know.
lol, but Ash isn't a Pokémon.
Digimon did have some awesomely evil monsters though. Maybe Pokémon can do something similar...?
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on June 06, 2010, 06:55:13 PM
lol, but Ash isn't a Pokémon.
Digimon did have some awesomely evil monsters though. Maybe Pokémon can do something similar...?
Eh, I don't know... Digimon are more of a civilized group, with humans battling with good ones against evil ones to save the world in the same way they would team up with and fight against good and evil humans. Pokemon, on the other hand, I've always seen more as animals, except in certain cases such as Mewtwo and Arceus.
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 06, 2010, 07:13:14 PM
Eh, I don't know... Digimon are more of a civilized group, with humans battling with good ones against evil ones to save the world in the same way they would team up with and fight against good and evil humans. Pokemon, on the other hand, I've always seen more as animals, except in certain cases such as Mewtwo and Arceus.
I see your point, but I was just talking about the Pokémon franchise making a Pokémon that looked as evil as some of the Digimon out there.
In other words,
Pokémon franchise +
Digimon aesthetics influence =
evil-looking Pokémon
#666 could be an evo of Houndoom?
Quote from: Hoagie Pennywhistle on June 08, 2010, 01:54:05 PM
Houndeath!
He needs to have 3 heads, though; they've teased me with a 1/3 Cerberus for too long...
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 08, 2010, 02:19:13 PM
He needs to have 3 heads, though; they've teased me with a 1/3 Cerberus for too long...
The closest thing we have to a Cerberus is Dodrio.
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 08, 2010, 02:32:33 PM
The closest thing we have to a Cerberus is Dodrio.
Which is a bird, and therefore closer to a chimera or hydra.
Actually, that would be nice. A hydra. Or a chimera.
Screw the chimera, I want a griffin.
Just make more classical fantasy beasts, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dragon-type that looks like a dragon.
Quote from: Xephyre on June 08, 2010, 08:07:49 PM
Just make more classical fantasy beasts, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dragon-type that looks like a dragon.
Wasn't Dragonite enough?
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 08, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
Wasn't Dragonite enough?
I want an Eastern Dragon. Kind of like Dragonaire, only more powerful.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 09, 2010, 12:49:46 AM
I want an Eastern Dragon. Kind of like Dragonaire, only more powerful.
So you want a Dragon-type Gyarados or a non-uber Rayquaza?
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 09, 2010, 08:18:14 AM
So you want a Dragon-type Gyarados or a non-uber Rayquaza?
Or making Gyarados Dragon-Type once more. But yes, more or less.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 09, 2010, 12:32:16 PM
Or making Gyarados Dragon-Type once more. But yes, more or less.
Once more? Gyarados has been Water/Flying since the days of old.
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 09, 2010, 01:15:03 PM
Once more? Gyarados has been Water/Flying since the days of old.
Nope, Gyarados was originally just Water type, then when G/S came out and introduced Dual typing and Dragon types he was a Water/Dragon. Like how Bulbasaur was just Grass type in R/G/Y.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 09, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
Nope, Gyarados was originally just Water type, then when G/S came out and introduced Dual typing and Dragon types he was a Water/Dragon. Like how Bulbasaur was just Grass type in R/G/Y.
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Um... I just checked Bulbapedia, Serebii, Smogon, Wikipedia, Pojo, and a variety of random sites on Google, and they all agree that even in the oldest games, Bulbasaur was Grass/Poison and Gyarados was Water/Flying. Oh, and Dragon has always been around too.
DANG IT. >:( My post wasn't posted somehow... so I kind of rewrote it here. :/
Quote from: JrDude φ on June 07, 2010, 09:34:13 PM
#666 could be an evo of Houndoom?
That would make sense, although I'd prefer a humanoid Pokémon.
Quote from: Hoagie Pennywhistle on June 08, 2010, 01:54:05 PM
Houndeath!
Awesome name. I don't know if they'd allow "death" to be in a Pokémon's name though--they should.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 09, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
Nope, Gyarados was originally just Water type, then when G/S came out and introduced Dual typing and Dragon types he was a Water/Dragon. Like how Bulbasaur was just Grass type in R/G/Y.
I was basically just going to say what Mewtwo said. But just curious, what had you misinformed?
Houndeath sounds too obvious and it doesn't sound catchy at all to me.
And maybe #666 can be demonic, and if it's a legendary, Houndoom is like it's minion, not a minion, but... hard to explain my meaning, but a Houndoom/Houndour would be a big part of the story if it were like that.
Are we really going to break the 600 Pokemon mark at least?
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 09, 2010, 09:11:37 PM
Are we really going to break the 600 Pokemon mark at least?
Well, we're only 107 away, and the lowest number a gen has ever added was 100 in 2nd gen, so I'd say we are almost guaranteed to break 600 in 5th gen.
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 09, 2010, 04:33:56 PM
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Um... I just checked Bulbapedia, Serebii, Smogon, Wikipedia, Pojo, and a variety of random sites on Google, and they all agree that even in the oldest games, Bulbasaur was Grass/Poison and Gyarados was Water/Flying. Oh, and Dragon has always been around too.
Dragon is no more an original type that Ghost, Dark, Bug, or Poison. Or, for that matter, Rock or Steel. Or Ice. Or Flying. There was Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and the Normal catch all. Then, in Gen II when they divided up most of the types(i.e., Ground into Rock, Ground, and Steel, Water into Water and Ice(and, arguably, Dragon), Grass into Grass, Bug, and Poison, Psychic into Psychic, Ghost, and Dark, Normal into Normal and Flying) and gave Pokemon dual typing, Gyarados was Water/Dragon. However, in Gen I, Bulbasaur, due to the lack of dual typing, was just Grass type.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 10, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Dragon is no more an original type that Ghost, Dark, Bug, or Poison. Or, for that matter, Rock or Steel. Or Ice. Or Flying. There was Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and the Normal catch all. Then, in Gen II when they divided up most of the types(i.e., Ground into Rock, Ground, and Steel, Water into Water and Ice(and, arguably, Dragon), Grass into Grass, Bug, and Poison, Psychic into Psychic, Ghost, and Dark, Normal into Normal and Flying) and gave Pokemon dual typing, Gyarados was Water/Dragon. However, in Gen I, Bulbasaur, due to the lack of dual typing, was just Grass type.
I'm gonna have to call BS on this one. Give me a few minutes and i'll show you a screenshot of 1st gen dual typing
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab285/So_So_Man/opoopdualtyping.jpg)
there, proof of first gen dual typing.
If the need arises, I can take/post pics of dual-typing in Pokemon Stadium, as thats the only Gen 1 game I own. Gen 2 just made more Pokemon dual-typed, like Magnemite. (still hate that to this day)
Pre-Post Edit: Guess I don't need to.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 10, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Dragon is no more an original type that Ghost, Dark, Bug, or Poison. Or, for that matter, Rock or Steel. Or Ice. Or Flying. There was Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and the Normal catch all. Then, in Gen II when they divided up most of the types(i.e., Ground into Rock, Ground, and Steel, Water into Water and Ice(and, arguably, Dragon), Grass into Grass, Bug, and Poison, Psychic into Psychic, Ghost, and Dark, Normal into Normal and Flying) and gave Pokemon dual typing, Gyarados was Water/Dragon. However, in Gen I, Bulbasaur, due to the lack of dual typing, was just Grass type.
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What the heck are you talking about?!?!?
So since Poison and Ice didn't exist back then, why does this Pokemon Stadium 1 fight have Blizzard as an attack? And how come Earthquake is super effective against Nidoking?
And what the heck type is Dragonair in this battle against Lance the DRAGON tamer to where Dragonite can super-effective it with ICE BEAM?! And what type is Dragonite to where Nidoking can get super effective with ROCK SLIDE?
Look dude, I have no idea where the heck you're getting your info from, but dual typing has always existed, as have all types except for Dark and Steel, both of which were 2nd gen inventions. Bulbasaur has always been Grass/Poison, Gyarados has always been Water/Flying, Dragonite has always been Dragon/Flying... I'd really really like to know who told you this crap. Also, if you get the chance, go back and play them yourself; they were the best anyway.
Umm... what? Dual types have always existed. The only change in Gen II was the addition of Steel and Dark, and that was because Psychic was too God-mode. As for Gyarados, it was always Water/Flying; there are strong hints that it would have been Dragon type, but the addition of Dragon at the end of the development process and the fact that Gyarados would have had no weaknesses (since Dragon Rage was the only Dragon-type move) nullified that idea. There were some changes in type effectiveness, like Bug no longer weak to Poison, but that shouldn't have confused anyone to these scales.
Quote from: Rius on June 10, 2010, 04:39:53 PMBug no longer weak to Poison, but that shouldn't have confused anyone to these scales.
I'm pretty sure that Bug Types are weak to Poison. It's been that way since Generation III at least and I'm pretty sure that's it's always been that way. I basically agree with everything else though.
Maybe Night is somehow talking about the TCG? In that case, there were only the types of Fire, Water (which includes Ice), Grass (which includes Poison and Bug), Electric, Fighting (which includes Ground and Rock), Colorless (also called Normal, which includes Flying and Dragon), and Psychic (which includes Ghost). Dark and Steel were added to the TCG the same time as the games.
Bug moves aren't very effective against Poison types. Poison types deal normal damage to Bug types.
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 10, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Dragon is no more an original type that Ghost, Dark, Bug, or Poison. Or, for that matter, Rock or Steel. Or Ice. Or Flying. There was Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and the Normal catch all. Then, in Gen II when they divided up most of the types(i.e., Ground into Rock, Ground, and Steel, Water into Water and Ice(and, arguably, Dragon), Grass into Grass, Bug, and Poison, Psychic into Psychic, Ghost, and Dark, Normal into Normal and Flying) and gave Pokemon dual typing, Gyarados was Water/Dragon. However, in Gen I, Bulbasaur, due to the lack of dual typing, was just Grass type.
This is just about the biggest fail in all of video game history.
I do believe others have stated as to why, and I don't feel like repeating them.
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 11, 2010, 10:13:05 PM
Bug moves aren't very effective against Poison types. Poison types deal normal damage to Bug types.
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I got confused because so many Poison-type moves were super effective against my Bug-type Pokémon--it must have also been a Grass-type or something.
an evil pokemon?
Jigglypuff duh
Quote from: RX-78-2 on June 14, 2010, 08:16:27 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I got confused because so many Poison-type moves were super effective against my Bug-type Pokémon--it must have also been a Grass-type or something.
I'm pretty sure Poison>Bug in first gen, but they changed it in 2nd gen or something.
Quote from: Mewtwo on June 14, 2010, 08:50:41 PM
I'm pretty sure Poison>Bug in first gen, but they changed it in 2nd gen or something.
Yep, and thats confused the intercourse out of me ever since
Quote from: Night the Lucario on June 10, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Dragon is no more an original type that Ghost, Dark, Bug, or Poison. Or, for that matter, Rock or Steel. Or Ice. Or Flying. There was Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and the Normal catch all. Then, in Gen II when they divided up most of the types(i.e., Ground into Rock, Ground, and Steel, Water into Water and Ice(and, arguably, Dragon), Grass into Grass, Bug, and Poison, Psychic into Psychic, Ghost, and Dark, Normal into Normal and Flying) and gave Pokemon dual typing, Gyarados was Water/Dragon. However, in Gen I, Bulbasaur, due to the lack of dual typing, was just Grass type.
Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and Normal...those are the types from the TCG, not from the actual game. Of course the TCG would only have that many types to start with. Imagine trying to fix 15 types into a TCG.
Quote from: Rayquarian on June 18, 2010, 03:03:13 PM
Ground, Fighting, Electric, Water, Fire, Grass, Psychic, and Normal...those are the types from the TCG, not from the actual game. Of course the TCG would only have that many types to start with. Imagine trying to fix 15 types into a TCG.
Well, the
Yu-gi-oh! TCG has about that many, if not more, but I think that the attributes of that game would correspond better to what you mean (in which case, there are six--technically seven).
Ground was also Fighting in the TCG, since I have a fighting type Golem (not to mention Diglett and Gligar).
Darkrai is pretty evil on it's own.
Enough of of these Pokemon that represent poop. Just make Pokemon like they did back in the day. Take an animal, give it an element.