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Generally Speaking => Serious Discussion => Topic started by: The Riddler on May 18, 2010, 11:52:04 PM

Title: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 18, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
Am I the only colorblind person here?

I hate being colorblind, but mostly when I see the simulations and see people's reactions.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2439086759_2238831e3b.jpg)

These two pictures look exactly the same to me, but to everyone else it's supposedly different. The colors in the bottom image should be different to you; Those are the colors I see.

I did an informative speech about colorblindness in my communications class, if anyone is interested I'll send them the powerpoint I did.

I'll also post more simulations if you're interested.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 19, 2010, 01:40:02 AM
Post things with many more colors in both versions.
Though due to the fact that someone couldn't see (or I assume so) in both versions themselves, I assume they wouldn't be able to get what that looks like in both versions, therefore not able to produce a perfect picture of what people like you see. And aren't colorblind people supposed to see in black & white? or was that just an assumption made by my mind as a child? (colorblind = no color seen = black & white seen, though this may just be a childhood thought that stayed with me as I aged [I'm not old, but you know what I mean])
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Night the Lucario on May 19, 2010, 03:19:02 AM
I'm not Red-Green colour blind, although I occasionally mistake Red-Yellow, Blue-Green, and Red-Orange.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Cornwad on May 19, 2010, 03:29:57 AM
My uncle is colorblind, but that must be pretty terrible. It looks like the whole world is in a bad camera filter. You can't even see the butterfly thing?
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Chris8492 on May 19, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
Im not color blind but i do end up getting this weird White/Red vision if im in a room with flouresent lights a lot
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on May 19, 2010, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 18, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
Am I the only colorblind person here?

I hate being colorblind, but mostly when I see the simulations and see people's reactions.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2439086759_2238831e3b.jpg)

These two pictures look exactly the same to me, but to everyone else it's supposedly different. The colors in the bottom image should be different to you; Those are the colors I see.

I did an informative speech about colorblindness in my communications class, if anyone is interested I'll send them the powerpoint I did.

I'll also post more simulations if you're interested.

Please post more pictures.

Thank you
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on May 19, 2010, 10:04:47 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 18, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
Am I the only colorblind person here?

I hate being colorblind, but mostly when I see the simulations and see people's reactions.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/2439086759_2238831e3b.jpg)

These two pictures look exactly the same to me, but to everyone else it's supposedly different. The colors in the bottom image should be different to you; Those are the colors I see.

I did an informative speech about colorblindness in my communications class, if anyone is interested I'll send them the powerpoint I did.

I'll also post more simulations if you're interested.

I know that colorblindness is a genetic disfunction of some cones of the retina. Does anyone else in your family have same problems?

I am doing a research about colorblindness therefore I am interested in knowing more about it and all kind of problems that colorblind people face.

Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 19, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
Quote from: Dannyboy on May 19, 2010, 10:04:47 AM
I know that colorblindness is a genetic disfunction of some cones of the retina. Does anyone else in your family have same problems?

I am doing a research about colorblindness therefore I am interested in knowing more about it and all kind of problems that colorblind people face.
As far as I know, I'm the only one in my family with it.
(http://home.scarlet.be/inzoum/photo/tgs-colorblind.jpg)
The top two images look identical to me.

(http://opticalillusion.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/apples11.jpg)
The two top apples look the same, and the two bottom apples look the same.

I also can't see most Ishihara tests or the Farnsworth D-15 test.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on May 19, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
Do you usually have lot of color-related problems? Have you been looking for a solution that could help you?
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: DededeCloneChris on May 19, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
This is the same sickness that made my dad give a PURPLE bike to my little brother, and he could've sworn it was blue. D:
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 19, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
Weird, something like red weakness happened on my teacher's comp, didn't show any red, or was it missing blue? I know blue had something to do with it.

Also, with the risk of sounding like an ass, I partially don't believe a word you are saying.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 19, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 19, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
Weird, something like red weakness happened on my teacher's comp, didn't show any red, or was it missing blue? I know blue had something to do with it.

Also, with the risk of sounding like an ass, I partially don't believe a word you are saying.
You do indeed sound like an ass.
Why would I make a topic and post about it if I was lying? You intercourse ing idiot.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 19, 2010, 03:58:51 PM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 19, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
You do indeed sound like an ass.
Why would I make a topic and post about it if I was lying? You intercourse ing idiot.
QuoteI have aids
QuoteOh wait, I was lying
That doesn't make you seem like a liar at all.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 19, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 19, 2010, 03:58:51 PM
That doesn't make you seem like a liar at all.
That was in a confessions thread as a joke.

This is a whole topic made by me to discuss the topic.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Cornwad on May 19, 2010, 05:38:09 PM
To be fair, I guess you can't miss something that you've never seen. You should look into those robotic eyes. It would be really cool to see red and green for the first time.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dog Food on May 19, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 19, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
Weird, something like red weakness happened on my teacher's comp, didn't show any red, or was it missing blue? I know blue had something to do with it.

Also, with the risk of sounding like an ass, I partially don't believe a word you are saying.
JrDude, this isn't a joke. My brother is colorblind and my sister used to tear the labels off of crayons when they were little so he'd have no idea which colored crayon he was actually using. Also, people who are colorblind can't go into certain professions because their lack of seeing certain colors will ruin their chances at the job (I think there are some jobs on the air force like this) . Some jobs that rely on you seeing certain colors make you take a test to see if you are colorblind or not. It involves looking at different colored sheets to see if you can find the shape or if it appears invisible to you. Or something like that.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:10:18 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 19, 2010, 04:15:39 PM
That was in a confessions thread as a joke.

This is a whole topic made by me to discuss the topic.
You were one of the only people to make a joke on a thread where almost everyone's message was true and often serious, and because of the level of seriousness in the thread, everyone assumed you were telling the truth, felt bad, then you were "oh lol i lied."
Though no one cared, it made you look like someone who would easily make lie about something serious to get either attention, sympathy, or for poops and giggles.
If it makes you feel better and shut up, I will gladly make a message stating I believe you and feel bad for you :)
Quote from: KJ on May 19, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
JrDude, this isn't a joke.
By this message, sounds like you mean I don't believe in colorblindness. I know there are color blind people, it's just Rob.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 20, 2010, 12:12:22 AM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 20, 2010, 12:10:18 AM
You were one of the only people to make a joke on a thread where almost everyone's message was true and often serious, and because of the level of seriousness in the thread, everyone assumed you were telling the truth, felt bad, then you were "oh lol i lied."
Though no one cared, it made you look like someone who would easily make lie about something serious to get either attention, sympathy, or for poops and giggles.
If it makes you feel better and shut up, I will gladly make a message stating I believe you and feel bad for you :)By this message, sounds like you mean I don't believe in colorblindness. I know there are color blind people, it's just Rob.
You have to be the only person who took it that seriously and holds a grudge or something. :|
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:18:31 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 20, 2010, 12:12:22 AM
You have to be the only person who took it that seriously and holds a grudge or something. :|
I'm not holding a grudge, I just don't believe most things people I don't know say on the internet, and a serious lie just makes it harder to believe.
You can believe what you want though. Yes I am holding a grudge, grr, I will get you back for lying to me you rascal! I'll start with not believing you in a thread you make :O that'll show him.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:26:29 AM
Also, didn't get this from the most reliable source in the world, but people who are colorblind aren't allowed to drive and get a license. I asked why and it's because they can hardly tell the difference between the color of stop lights, all the colors look similar, so they aren't allowed to get a license. And you said you have your license.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 20, 2010, 12:29:15 AM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 20, 2010, 12:26:29 AM
Also, didn't get this from the most reliable source in the world, but people who are colorblind aren't allowed to drive and get a license. I asked why and it's because they can hardly tell the difference between the color of stop lights, all the colors look similar, so they aren't allowed to get a license. And you said you have your license.
That's not even remotely true, although I have heard I could get one of those disability tags.

What you need to understand is that there are a few types of colorblindness. The simulations I showed are the type I have, the more common one. What you're thinking of is total color blindness, which is ridiculously rare.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:31:24 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 20, 2010, 12:29:15 AM
That's not even remotely true
Looks true to me
(http://home.scarlet.be/inzoum/photo/tgs-colorblind.jpg)
If you look back & fourth, you can see that the red at the bottom and the green in the pic look almost like the exact same color, thus not being able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 20, 2010, 12:35:42 AM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 20, 2010, 12:31:24 AM
Looks true to me
(http://home.scarlet.be/inzoum/photo/tgs-colorblind.jpg)
If you look back & fourth, you can see that the red at the bottom and the green in the pic look almost like the exact same color, thus not being able to tell the difference.
I meant the driver's license thing.
The two images look identical to me, it's not a matter of looking back and fourth, it's that my perception of the colors is shifted. The bottom two are different, the one on the bottom left is for blue/yellow-colorblind people, and the bottom right is for full colorblind people. I'm red/green, the top right, and the top left is what everyone else sees.

The two look identical to me because what everyone else sees is shifted for me to what you see in the top right picture.

At least, that's how I think the simulations work. According to everyone the top right picture is bland and boring or something, and it seems colorful to me. I can distinguish each color from one another in the picture itself, but the two pictures look identical.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:40:37 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 20, 2010, 12:35:42 AM
I meant the driver's license thing.
The two images look identical to me, it's not a matter of looking back and fourth, it's that my perception of the colors is shifted. The bottom two are different, the one on the bottom left is for blue/yellow-colorblind people, and the bottom right is for full colorblind people. I'm red/green, the top right, and the top left is what everyone else sees.

The two look identical to me because what everyone else sees is shifted for me to what you see in the top right picture.

At least, that's how I think the simulations work. According to everyone the top right picture is bland and boring or something, and it seems colorful to me. I can distinguish each color from one another in the picture itself, but the two pictures look identical.
I meant the top 2, though there are differences, the red, green and yellow look overly similar.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 20, 2010, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 20, 2010, 12:40:37 AM
I meant the top 2, though there are differences, the red, green and yellow look overly similar.
The two are actually the same?
Well, they look identical to me. I can't confirm they're different without others inputs.
I posted two other simulations that also look identical to me.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 12:55:03 AM
Quote from: Pumburn on May 20, 2010, 12:47:10 AM
The two are actually the same?
Well, they look identical to me. I can't confirm they're different without others inputs.
I posted two other simulations that also look identical to me.
Confusion has happened.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: BOREDFOREVER on May 20, 2010, 10:25:07 AM
I know playing games sucks for some colorblind people, especially where they use red/green as colors in a puzzle.

And yes, Colorblind people can get driver's licences.  The colors are always stacked the same, so all you really have to do is be able to tell which is lit.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Kayo on May 20, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
So, rob, you can't see anything here:
(http://www.lotuseye.org/images/color-blind-test4.jpg)
right? That sucks. (._. )

I am not any type of color-blind, but I know this one guy who is colorblind, yet he can solve a Rubiks Cube in under a minute. It baffles me.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 01:24:13 PM
Quote from: BOREDFANBOY on May 20, 2010, 10:25:07 AM
The colors are always stacked the same, so all you really have to do is be able to tell which is lit.
Not in Canada, where he lives, sometimes they're sideways.
Also those one lights that I've barely actually seen, the ones that determine whether you can go that direction on that street or something, can't explain it well, especially since I've only seen them like once, though that was before I knew how to drive so I didn't know what it's purpose was. I learned about them in Drivers Ed, sometimes it's green for a loong time, sometimes it becomes red meaning you can't drive in that direction at the moment, and if memory serves, which it often doesn't, then there's only 1 circle/square of light saying whether you can go or not.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Cornwad on May 20, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
You meant the red/green arrows? It will still turn yellow before it turns red, so you can just watch for the yellow.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: JrDude on May 20, 2010, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 20, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
You meant the red/green arrows? It will still turn yellow before it turns red, so you can just watch for the yellow.
If you look at those pics, yellow green and red all look very similar.
Also, I'm not so sure we're talking about the same thing.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Cornwad on May 21, 2010, 02:15:37 PM
These?
(http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/MES2459.jpg)
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on May 21, 2010, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 21, 2010, 02:15:37 PM
These?
(http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/MES2459.jpg)
Unauthorized hotlinking.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on June 07, 2010, 02:28:05 PM
Riddler. Can you explain what kind of problems do you face being colorblind?
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on June 07, 2010, 03:10:23 PM
Quote from: Dannyboy on June 07, 2010, 02:28:05 PM
Riddler. Can you explain what kind of problems do you face being colorblind?
Not much, really. I've grown adjusted to it over the years. It's only affected me a bit mentally when I realized how bad it was when I found out about the simulations and everyone was like "oh my god that sucks i feel so bad for you" and it hit me what I'm actually missing. But physically, not much. I once owned a purple shirt that I thought was blue, in Call of Duty I can't see the difference between the red and green poop on the map, same in NHL10, and I just have general issues picking out colors, but I'm so adapted to it it's not a real problem.

Call of Duty: World At War had a color scheme thing, where you could change the red and green to blue and yellow. MW2 doesn't have that. Shit sucks.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on June 08, 2010, 06:54:16 AM
I see. It is very interesting. Do you think it would help you a software that allows you to distinguish clearly all colors/objects?
For example looking at pictures, a video, a pie chart, a game or simply surfing on internet.

Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Nine 1 One on June 11, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
I'm not color blind, though i am red-green deficient or something like that
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: The Riddler on June 11, 2010, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Dannyboy on June 08, 2010, 06:54:16 AM
I see. It is very interesting. Do you think it would help you a software that allows you to distinguish clearly all colors/objects?
For example looking at pictures, a video, a pie chart, a game or simply surfing on internet.
Nah. Like I said, I'm adjusted.
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Jayat on June 12, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
I see color blindness and seeing the world fro what it is

it like you have trus vision and the rest of the world is blind to your view
Title: Re: Colorblindness.
Post by: Dannyboy on June 18, 2010, 05:51:18 AM
Ehi folks, what do you think about the genetic therapiy?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32879284/ns/health-more_health_news/

Would you do it?