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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: Ridley on May 15, 2008, 07:21:54 PM

Title: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on May 15, 2008, 07:21:54 PM
Well who do you think is underrated? (This is different thana the moves thread.) It has been a while since I made a thread so here we go.

Rob is underrated for sure. Everyone hates him for some reason.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: SkyMyl on May 15, 2008, 07:23:17 PM
I consider them the same.

I feel that R.O.B too is underappreciated. And I like him...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on May 15, 2008, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on May 15, 2008, 07:23:17 PM
I consider them the same.

I feel that R.O.B too is underappreciated. And I like him...

Moves and characters are completely different.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on May 15, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
People really take DK for granted.

And also good old Weegee
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: ThePowerOfOne on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on May 16, 2008, 04:25:34 AM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(
Just keep telling yourself that.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on May 16, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(

That is the biggest lie ever. Go play La Pared. NOW!
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Triforceman22 on May 16, 2008, 09:08:58 AM
Link.

Everyone says he now sucks.

I beg to differ.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on May 16, 2008, 09:25:21 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on May 16, 2008, 09:08:58 AM
Link.

Everyone says he now sucks.

I beg to differ.
I beg to re-differ
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on May 16, 2008, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
Tats cuz hes a nub  :|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Triforceman22 on May 16, 2008, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on May 16, 2008, 09:25:21 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on May 16, 2008, 09:08:58 AM
Link.

Everyone says he now sucks.

I beg to differ.
I beg to re-differ

go away >:o
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Java on May 16, 2008, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
I'm starting to use him a bit more.

He's really fun to play as.

I really need to play you sometime!
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on May 16, 2008, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
I'm starting to use him a bit more.

He's really fun to play as.

I really need to play you sometime!
How about now? :)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Lotos on May 16, 2008, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on May 15, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
People really take DK for granted.

And also good old Weegee

I'm not too sure about Luigi.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P

And the user Olimar.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on May 16, 2008, 04:22:37 PM
Yoshi definitely.
Yoshi is the only character that I can beat almost anyone as. So people need to try.

Olimar too.
Most don't seem to like his for some reason, but he's really good at combos is you get used to him.

R.O.B.
I don't use him much, but I know his potential.

Link.
I don't use him much either, but it's because of him, that I caught Tabuu.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Neerb on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 17, 2008, 02:23:31 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
I've seen one Jiggly in a with anyone. Hector and I are the only people on here who use her (I think).
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 17, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
HI THERE

Yes, thank you Lotos >_>
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 17, 2008, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 17, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
HI THERE

Yes, thank you Lotos >_>

Sorry, I thought you only used Luigi :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 17, 2008, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 17, 2008, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 17, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
HI THERE

Yes, thank you Lotos >_>

Sorry, I thought you only used Luigi :P
I had the characters I used listed in my Sig, then I got rid of it because of my declination of me playing Brawl >_>;

Olimar
Luigi
Pokemon Trainer
Snake
R.O.B.
Captain Falcon
Mr. Game and Watch

I think that's it.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Neerb on May 17, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 17, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 16, 2008, 09:52:29 AM
Olimar. No  one uses him except for Jr.Dude and me :P
HI THERE

Yes, thank you Lotos >_>

lol
Cornwad:  No one else uses Olimar
Olimar:  HI THERE

hehe, irony [/spam]
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Super Mushrooms don't affect your FS. Say you use Wario's FS while in giant mode, you'd shrink back to normal size to be Wario Man.

Also, I use Olimar too. He is one of my best.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Neerb on May 17, 2008, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Super Mushrooms don't affect your FS. Say you use Wario's FS while in giant mode, you'd shrink back to normal size to be Wario Man.

Also, I use Olimar too. He is one of my best.

Are you sure about the FS thing?  I'm pretty sure Jiggs keeps her size power up...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Super Mushrooms don't affect your FS. Say you use Wario's FS while in giant mode, you'd shrink back to normal size to be Wario Man.

Also, I use Olimar too. He is one of my best.

Are you sure about the FS thing?  I'm pretty sure Jiggs keeps her size power up...
Positive.
If Jiggly uses her FS while big, she will shrink to normal size, then use the FS.
100% positive.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 17, 2008, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Super Mushrooms don't affect your FS. Say you use Wario's FS while in giant mode, you'd shrink back to normal size to be Wario Man.

Also, I use Olimar too. He is one of my best.

Are you sure about the FS thing?  I'm pretty sure Jiggs keeps her size power up...
Positive.
If Jiggly uses her FS while big, she will shrink to normal size, then use the FS.
100% positive.
Its true. I don't know about Giant Brawl though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 17, 2008, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 03:05:49 PM
Quote from: JrDude on May 17, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 17, 2008, 02:22:00 PM
I'm surprised ROB is underrated.  I mean, sure I don't like the fact that an old, unimportant robot like him stole Ray 01's place (I will nevar fergiv u, Sakrai!!!), but he's an awesome brawler--his spinning top is awesome, and his FS is insane if you use it correctly.

I haven't played that much online, but is Jiggs used that much?  She's crazy good if you use her right, and her FS is my favorite move in the game (small stage + Giant mode + super mushroom + Jigg's FS.  try it sometime.), but I can't imagine her being used that much.
Super Mushrooms don't affect your FS. Say you use Wario's FS while in giant mode, you'd shrink back to normal size to be Wario Man.

Also, I use Olimar too. He is one of my best.

Are you sure about the FS thing?  I'm pretty sure Jiggs keeps her size power up...
Positive.
If Jiggly uses her FS while big, she will shrink to normal size, then use the FS.
100% positive.
Its true. I don't know about Giant Brawl though.
Neither do I, I suspect that you stay giant, but I never tried it.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on May 17, 2008, 04:28:12 PM
Actually I think Meta is still somewhat underrated (I still know ppl who are like "ZOMG META IS WEAK AND YET CHEAP I HATeZ HIM!" and the like.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on May 17, 2008, 08:53:51 PM
Wolf.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: La Pared on May 17, 2008, 08:55:14 PM
Kirby. my main ;)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Neerb on May 18, 2008, 10:45:26 AM
I think Pikachu's pretty underated.  He's fast, agile, and powerful if used correctly, but I don't think I've ever seen a Pika user besides me.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on May 18, 2008, 01:21:06 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on May 18, 2008, 10:45:26 AM
I think Pikachu's pretty underated.  He's fast, agile, and powerful if used correctly, but I don't think I've ever seen a Pika user besides me.
There's Sabby.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Eizweir on May 18, 2008, 03:46:10 PM
G&W, not as much anymore but he is amazing and people don't expect it.
Quote from: La Pared on May 17, 2008, 08:55:14 PM
Kirby. my main ;)
Your old main   :|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: thunderhero4 on May 18, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
DeDeDe, I have learned how to use him and he ownz ;)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: DededeCloneChris on May 18, 2008, 11:08:18 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on May 18, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
DeDeDe, I have learned how to use him and he ownz ;)
Spam Side B, we know that.

*Dramatization*
Dedede: Get you free Smash Balls here! Just look inside my sleeve!
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Macawmoses on May 19, 2008, 10:50:14 AM
Diddy, many told me you will never get good with him, but I have seen amazing Diddy's. I really think he is underrated.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Shujinco2 on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Game and Watch: He's fast, has an instant KO move, and has a self heal move.

Ness: He's fast, powerful, most likely the best jump in the game, and has a self heal move.

Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.

Ice Climbers: Desynching is pwnage.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: thunderhero4 on May 19, 2008, 03:10:19 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 18, 2008, 11:08:18 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on May 18, 2008, 07:24:13 PM
DeDeDe, I have learned how to use him and he ownz ;)
Spam Side B, we know that.

*Dramatization*
Dedede: Get you free Smash Balls here! Just look inside my sleeve!
U did it again -_- and no...his smash attacks are great
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Allegretto on May 19, 2008, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on May 16, 2008, 09:25:21 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on May 16, 2008, 09:08:58 AM
Link.

Everyone says he now sucks.

I beg to differ.
I beg to re-differ
Lol if you vs me you will reconsider how horrible Link is not. I will show you how much of a master he is  :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Doodle on May 24, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
Some people might hate Link now, since he changed. He's not THAT bad.

I think Peach is underrated. :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 24, 2008, 02:13:49 PM
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on May 24, 2008, 12:46:04 PM
Some people might hate Link now, since he changed. He's not THAT bad.

I think Peach is underrated. :P
Peach is quite awesome. I wish I knew how to use her =/
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Uniffles on May 24, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
The Ice Climbers, definitely. They're so silly and cute. :3

They're also my mains in Brawl. I've never met another Ice Climbers user.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Macawmoses on May 24, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
You all fail to meet Wario.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on May 24, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on May 24, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
You all fail to meet Wario.
dear god how does he move so freely in the air X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 24, 2008, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on May 24, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on May 24, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
You all fail to meet Wario.
dear god how does he move so freely in the air X_X;;
His fat doubles as flubbery wings.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on May 24, 2008, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
His up/down smashes also rule.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Macawmoses on May 25, 2008, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on May 24, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on May 24, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
You all fail to meet Wario.
dear god how does he move so freely in the air X_X;;
Gas, my friend, gas. He is god in the air.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 25, 2008, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
No wonder why all of you are so "good", you use C-Stick =/
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on May 25, 2008, 07:45:52 AM
Quote from: Olimar on May 25, 2008, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
No wonder why all of you are so "good", you use C-Stick =/
I dont :o
And yes Mack, Wario is the god of aerial play.
He has the best DI in the game iirc.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on May 25, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on May 25, 2008, 07:45:52 AM
Quote from: Olimar on May 25, 2008, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
No wonder why all of you are so "good", you use C-Stick =/
I dont :o
And yes Mack, Wario is the god of aerial play.
He has the best DI in the game iirc.
Yay for you. I don't either.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Wilhelmina Carmel on May 28, 2008, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Byte on May 25, 2008, 07:43:55 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on May 24, 2008, 08:44:26 PM
Olimar. He is deadly if you use his side smash correctly.

I agree, but i kind of hard to use it incorrectly. All you have to do is hammer the c stick when your opponents are somewhat close to you :D

I like his grabs more :P
No wonder why all of you are so "good", you use C-Stick =/
I b-stick if that makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Shujinco2 on May 29, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: mackormoses on May 25, 2008, 12:46:54 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on May 24, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on May 24, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on May 19, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 19, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 19, 2008, 12:09:49 PM
Jigglypuff: Air game in unmatched, and her sing works well at high percentages.
Have you met Luigi, my good sir?
Jiggly has more jumps and more horizontal coverage >:D
Luigi's attacks not only do more damage, but Luigi has a huge jump AND is almost unaffected by gravity, it seems.
If you say so :D
I just find Jiggly better in the air...

And so does Sakurai :O
You all fail to meet Wario.
dear god how does he move so freely in the air X_X;;
Gas, my friend, gas. He is god in the air.
Well, I don't have Brawl, so I still haven't been able to use every character yet. Especially Wario. :-\
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: mario59 on June 11, 2008, 05:16:14 PM
Mack is right, Wario+Air = Epic pwnage and an epic fail for any who try to match him
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: guido123 on June 12, 2008, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: mario59 on June 11, 2008, 05:16:14 PM
Mack is right, Wario+Air = Epic pwnage and an epic fail for any who try to match him

that is true
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: DededeCloneChris on June 12, 2008, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: Uniffles on May 24, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
The Ice Climbers, definitely. They're so silly and cute. :3

They're also my mains in Brawl. I've never met another Ice Climbers user.
*Raises hand*
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: guido123 on June 14, 2008, 04:43:17 PM
i dont really like them that much but i like to use him every once in awhile
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on June 15, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: guido123 on June 14, 2008, 04:43:17 PM
i dont really like them that much but i like to use him every once in awhile

Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
than why does every say he sucks? what i mean is that he's better than most people think.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 05, 2008, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
than why does every say he sucks? what i mean is that he's better than most people think.
No one says he sucks, he's top of High Tier by M2K's reckoning.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
than why does every say he sucks? what i mean is that he's better than most people think.
No one says he sucks, he's top of High Tier by M2K's reckoning.
everyone said ROB sucked when the game first came out.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 05, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
than why does every say he sucks? what i mean is that he's better than most people think.
No one says he sucks, he's top of High Tier by M2K's reckoning.
Olimar isn't that underrated either then... he's usually considered to be up there from what I've seen...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 05, 2008, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 05, 2008, 12:44:38 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 05, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Rob is not under-rated
than why does every say he sucks? what i mean is that he's better than most people think.
No one says he sucks, he's top of High Tier by M2K's reckoning.
Olimar isn't that underrated either then... he's usually considered to be up there from what I've seen...
If I remember correctly... he was somewhere in the middle.
He's far too light.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 05, 2008, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
underrated characters

Yoshi
Kirby
Olimar
ROB
Yoshi is underrated, but the rest of those characters aren't.
Sure Olimar and R.O.B. were underrated at first, but not anymore.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Playat on August 05, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Olimar, Yoshi and G-dorf.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: CACTUAR0WNAGE on August 06, 2008, 05:07:11 PM
oh, Diddy Kong hands down. He's rarely used and such a great character, he's probably mid tier at the very, VERY least, yet he's probably least used
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Macawmoses on August 06, 2008, 05:15:03 PM
Diddy gets good use here.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Matt on August 06, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Yoshi by far. Only person here that I know uses him is JrDude and Depster(Not sure anymore). I myself don't find Yoshi to be all that good of a character.

Edit below.
Quote from: Ridley on May 16, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(

That is the biggest lie ever. Go play La Pared. NOW!

Or me.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
Quote from: `Matt` on August 06, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Yoshi by far. Only person here that I know uses him is JrDude and Depster(Not sure anymore). I myself don't find Yoshi to be all that good of a character.

Edit below.
Quote from: Ridley on May 16, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(

That is the biggest lie ever. Go play La Pared. NOW!

Or me.
i use yoshi and i kick ass with him. the key to being good with him is using his special moves in combinations with his smashes. at least that's how i use him. his combat capabilities in the air are pretty good.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Matt on August 06, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
Quote from: `Matt` on August 06, 2008, 05:25:45 PM
Yoshi by far. Only person here that I know uses him is JrDude and Depster(Not sure anymore). I myself don't find Yoshi to be all that good of a character.

Edit below.
Quote from: Ridley on May 16, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(

That is the biggest lie ever. Go play La Pared. NOW!

Or me.
i use yoshi and i kick ass with him. the key to being good with him is using his special moves in combinations with his smashes. at least that's how i use him. his combat capabilities in the air are pretty good.

In my opinion he is still underrated.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 06:37:50 PM
The handsome elf named Link, of course.

Oh, and Zero Suit Samus. She speaks for feminine fighters well, and most people just see her as a sex doll  >:(
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 06, 2008, 06:37:50 PM
The handsome elf named Link, of course.

Oh, and Zero Suit Samus. She speaks for feminine fighters well, and most people just see her as a sex doll  >:(
sadly thats true. her only major flaw is her poor defense
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 06, 2008, 06:37:50 PM
The handsome elf named Link, of course.

Oh, and Zero Suit Samus. She speaks for feminine fighters well, and most people just see her as a sex doll  >:(
sadly thats true. her only major flaw is her poor defense
People get so ticked off when I use Zero Suit Samus...

Paralyzer -> Dash Grab -> Running Plasma Wire -> Down Smash -> Plasma Wire -> Down Smash... ... Plasma Wire -> Down Smash -> Down Smash -> Back Aerial Smash

Hehe  :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
zerosuit samu's revovery move is great. it has lots of range. it didn't hurt her.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 07, 2008, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
zerosuit samu's revovery move is great. it has lots of range. it didn't hurt her.
If someone is hanging on the edge, she cannot recover.
Therefore, her recovery sucks.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 07, 2008, 09:35:00 AM
I'll say anyone who doesn't look badass or cool. Olimar for the most part.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 07, 2008, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 06, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
zerosuit samu's revovery move is great. it has lots of range. it didn't hurt her.
If someone is hanging on the edge, she cannot recover.
Therefore, her recovery sucks.
if someone is not hanging on the edge she grapples to it and has the chance to attack the opponent. Most of the time the opponent won't be quick enough to edge guard, because her recovery is instant once you press Up B.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Java on August 07, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
How does tether recovery hurt her?

Or...unless you're talking about her Up Special.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 07, 2008, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 07, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
How does tether recovery hurt her?

Or...unless you're talking about her Up Special.
If you're like me, you'll flip jump off the side of FD (since Flip Jump has auto wall jumping) and spike a hanging foe (since by that point, they'd have lost their invincibility frames. It's fun :D
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 07, 2008, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 07, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
How does tether recovery hurt her?

Or...unless you're talking about her Up Special.
Precisely.
Since that's her only form of recovery, it is easily gimped. (She is unable to recover due to edge guarding)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 07, 2008, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 07, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
How does tether recovery hurt her?

Or...unless you're talking about her Up Special.
Precisely.
Since that's her only form of recovery, it is easily gimped. (She is unable to recover due to edge guarding)
it would be really hard for someone to edge guard it,  since her recovery is so quick.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 07, 2008, 02:03:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
it would be really hard for someone to edge guard it,  since her recovery is so quick.
Not to sound mean, but I'm gonna be straight forward with you on this :|

Have you ever played as Zero Suit Samus? In fact, have you ever even tried Tether Recovering against an experienced player as Zero Suit Samus or Ivysaur? They'll get you the majority of the time... That is one tedious disadvantage that is hard to overcome with the two.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 07, 2008, 02:03:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
it would be really hard for someone to edge guard it,  since her recovery is so quick.
Not to sound mean, but I'm gonna be straight forward with you on this :|

Have you ever played as Zero Suit Samus? In fact, have you ever even tried Tether Recovering against an experienced player as Zero Suit Samus or Ivysaur? They'll get you the majority of the time... That is one tedious disadvantage that is hard to overcome with the two.
Zerosuit Samus is one of my main characters. I willing to bet I'm better with her and I know her battle style better than you do. You should've noticed she was on my sig.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 07, 2008, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:12:48 PM
Zerosuit Samus is one of my main characters. I willing to bet I'm better with her and I know her battle style better than you do. You should've noticed she was on my sig.
Who do you play against... CPU's will only edge-hog on a very rare occasion (sometimes I just think it's accidental, too.

And I'm well aware that you're also a casual player... And yeah, I noticed that she was in your sig... I also noticed that there are 5 other people there, too.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 07, 2008, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 02:12:48 PM
Zerosuit Samus is one of my main characters. I willing to bet I'm better with her and I know her battle style better than you do. You should've noticed she was on my sig.
Who do you play against... CPU's will only edge-hog on a very rare occasion (sometimes I just think it's accidental, too.

And I'm well aware that you're also a casual player... And yeah, I noticed that she was in your sig... I also noticed that there are 5 other people there, too.
just because i'm a casual gamer, it doesn't mean i'm not good. Brawl is pretty much the only game i play. i'm getting close to mastering my 6 characters. I don't play much against computers, I play with tollhouse, skye, who are members here, and i play with more people.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Ok, let's be simple.
Zss's recovery sucks balls. It's easily gimped, because of edge hugging. You can just get on the ledge while she is off, and then renew your invincibility frames when they wear off. Not to mention since It can only grab the ledge, they have to be right under you for it to work. It doesn't go after you if you are on it.
gg no re kthx
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
It's intercourse ing level 9 computers. That doesn't mean SHIT. They aren't smart enough to time edgehogs and stuff.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
It's f***ing level 9 computers. That doesn't mean s***. They aren't smart enough to time edgehogs and stuff.
This is becoming sad isn't it? Everyone knows tether recoveries are ineherently bad unless you have some other recovery to balance it out X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
It's f***ing level 9 computers. That doesn't mean s***. They aren't smart enough to time edgehogs and stuff.
This is becoming sad isn't it? Everyone knows tether recoveries are ineherently bad unless you have some other recovery to balance it out X_X;;
Everyone except Tibar, it seems.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
It's f***ing level 9 computers. That doesn't mean s***. They aren't smart enough to time edgehogs and stuff.
you're missing the point. the tether recovery stopped them from edge hogging by knocking the out of the way.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:04:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM
a funny thing happened today. I was using Z Samus at Hyrule Temple against three level 9 computers.  We were at the far right side at the cliff when I fell off. I was a considerable length below the edge of the cliff when I used the Up B recovery move. Not only did the tether knock back the 3 computers from edge hogging, but it grappled onto the cliff edge and I got back on safely. 100% true story. That doesn't suck.
It's f***ing level 9 computers. That doesn't mean s***. They aren't smart enough to time edgehogs and stuff.
you're missing the point. the tether recovery stopped them from edge hogging by knocking the out of the way.
Computers are stupid, they're too dumb to let go and jump back up to refresh their invincibility frames to keep them from getting hit. It's basic edgehogging to do that or else you're asking for a free hit.
You should only play computers to get timing down on certain attacks or you need to get frustration out (at least IMO anyway)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:16:45 PM
i play computers when i'm bored, and it's not good practice because they don't fight like humans.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:18:15 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:16:45 PM
i play computers when i'm bored, and it's not good practice because they don't fight like humans.
Exactly, so why were you bragging that you did such an amazing thing against them? They're stupid and don't know how to do things even humans find basic in terms of gameplay *You ever see a CPU Snake drop grenades? Didn't think so*
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
i wasn't bragging. i proved that zsmaus's tether recovery is really good. maybe not against the most advanced players, but against average players.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:22:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
i wasn't bragging. i proved that zsmaus's tether recovery is really good. maybe not against the most advanced players, but against average players.
That doesn't make it useful though... X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:22:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
i wasn't bragging. i proved that zsmaus's tether recovery is really good. maybe not against the most advanced players, but against average players.
That doesn't make it useful though... X_X;;
yes it does, because most smash players are average.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:22:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:21:07 PM
i wasn't bragging. i proved that zsmaus's tether recovery is really good. maybe not against the most advanced players, but against average players.
That doesn't make it useful though... X_X;;
yes it does, because most smash players are average.
*looks at most people here*...uh...I doubt that... X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
so you're saying most smah players are advanced gamers. That's bull. Most smash players are casual gamers.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
so you're saying most smah players are advanced gamers. That's bull. Most smash players are casual gamers.
*most people HERE*
If Nintendo had their way only babies and grandma would be playing Smash X_X;;
Also, you're missing the point completely... >_>
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 07:33:41 PM
Any smasher that is smart enough to edgehog in the first place is smart enough to renew their invincibility frames. Please, stop trying. You are completely retarded. You are not making yourself look any better. You're the only person in the entire world that thinks it's a good recovery.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
so you're saying most smah players are advanced gamers. That's bull. Most smash players are casual gamers.
*most people HERE*
If Nintendo had their way only babies and grandma would be playing Smash X_X;;
Also, you're missing the point completely... >_>
i wasn't talking about smash players *here* i was talking about smash players in general.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:55:39 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 07, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 07, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
so you're saying most smah players are advanced gamers. That's bull. Most smash players are casual gamers.
*most people HERE*
If Nintendo had their way only babies and grandma would be playing Smash X_X;;
Also, you're missing the point completely... >_>
i wasn't talking about smash players *here* i was talking about smash players in general.
Edgeguarding is still a basic concept...they even use it in J.U.S. X_X;;
If the point is to keep ppl off the stage, taking away the edge which saves people is only a natural idea for people to have. Besides, the second you try to use that in a competitive match you are immediatley screwed...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 07, 2008, 09:52:45 PM
Some of you said that an edge guarding would prevent ZSS from recovering. Well a while ago, on a "With anyone" match, someone tried to edge guard my recovery, they did it a little early so when I used ^B, it pulled him off into an instant death while I succesfully recovered.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 07, 2008, 11:06:25 PM
They need to learn to hug the edge well? It doesn't make up for the fact that it's a terrible recovery. I'll admit her overall recovery is better than Olimar's thanks to her down b though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Java on August 07, 2008, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 07, 2008, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 07, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 06, 2008, 06:53:40 PM
ZSS isn't under rated, but no one really uses her enough to develop her meta game.

The low weight and tether recovery hurt her a lot, but she is one of the few character who actually have moves that combo into each other.
How does tether recovery hurt her?

Or...unless you're talking about her Up Special.
Precisely.
Since that's her only form of recovery, it is easily gimped. (She is unable to recover due to edge guarding)
Ah. I thought you meant tether recovery as in the ability that Link, Samus, and Shiek share.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 04:58:01 AM
Quote from: JrDude on August 07, 2008, 09:52:45 PM
Some of you said that an edge guarding would prevent ZSS from recovering. Well a while ago, on a "With anyone" match, someone tried to edge guard my recovery, they did it a little early so when I used ^B, it pulled him off into an instant death while I succesfully recovered.
How did you successfully recover? As an avid Zero Suit Samus user, I've seen that and done that many times, and it's almost impossible to recover after doing it. Yeah, you almost instantly KO your opponent, but you still don't recover >_> It's sort of a trump card, I guess.

Besides, if you successfully recovered, how did you hit them with the Plasma Wire? It only hits when it doesn't snap onto the ledge, but to recover, it does snap on the ledge, so you're kinda contradicting yourself :|

I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you're saying, though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
just because a move has a weakness doesn't mean it sucks.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 08, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
just because a move has a weakness doesn't mean it sucks.
It just means there's much better recoveries out there then. >_> Snake's, Pit's, Rob's, etc.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 08, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
just because a move has a weakness doesn't mean it sucks.
It just means there's much better recoveries out there then. >_> Snake's, Pit's, Rob's, etc.
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 08, 2008, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 08, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
just because a move has a weakness doesn't mean it sucks.
It just means there's much better recoveries out there then. >_> Snake's, Pit's, Rob's, etc.
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Snake's recovery is good because he can't flinch when using the Cypher at certain points, also he can still use all of his other attacks once he lets go of it (not to mention it still goes pretty high). Pit has the best recovery in the game what are you talking about? X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Ummm... What? Snake's recovery is amazing. And if Cypher does fail for any reason, he can easily C4 recover, which is pretty good.

Pit has the best recovery. I have really no idea where you're getting that it's less than great.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Doodle on August 08, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
Peach. :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Someguy13 on August 08, 2008, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: Phaze on May 15, 2008, 08:26:14 PM
KIRBY!

I've never seen any other Kirby users... (At least, none that were GOOD)

And Kirby is one of the best chracters :(
I have a pretty decent Kirby.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Someguy13 on August 08, 2008, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Ummm... What? Snake's recovery is amazing. And if Cypher does fail for any reason, he can easily C4 recover, which is pretty good.

Pit has the best recovery. I have really no idea where you're getting that it's less than great.
Meta-knights recovery>Pits
MK can glide twice to pits once and if you take any kind of dammage as you use Pits up-b you cant use it again like a normal one.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 07:23:45 PM
don't u guys know the technique for when snake uses his cypher you grab him right at the edge when he tries to get back up, and then the cypher hits you, causing you to let of snake. and snake will be unable to use it again after that, leading him to a falling death. it's very easy to do. yes, pit's recovery is pretty much the best in the game, but he's vulnable while he uses it. If he was was trying to get back on the edge you could easily meteor smash him. that's why its nice how zsamus's recovery move can prevent other players from edge hogging and cling on to the edge in one. the only thing that can stop it is if the other player manages to get to the edge before her tether.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 08, 2008, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
but ROB's ^B doesn't really have a weakness.
If you overuse it like Ridley does/did that one time, then it does have a weakness.
He could've edge grabbed but decided just to fly up next to the edge to the stage, all I did was Luigi's B and it knocked him down, and it all repeated, eventually he ran out of ^B juice and died.

Quote from: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 04:58:01 AM
Quote from: JrDude on August 07, 2008, 09:52:45 PM
Some of you said that an edge guarding would prevent ZSS from recovering. Well a while ago, on a "With anyone" match, someone tried to edge guard my recovery, they did it a little early so when I used ^B, it pulled him off into an instant death while I succesfully recovered.
How did you successfully recover? As an avid Zero Suit Samus user, I've seen that and done that many times, and it's almost impossible to recover after doing it. Yeah, you almost instantly KO your opponent, but you still don't recover >_> It's sort of a trump card, I guess.

Besides, if you successfully recovered, how did you hit them with the Plasma Wire? It only hits when it doesn't snap onto the ledge, but to recover, it does snap on the ledge, so you're kinda contradicting yourself :|

I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you're saying, though.
If that's so, then IDK, but it did happen.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 07:23:45 PM
don't u guys know the technique for when snake uses his cypher you grab him right at the edge when he tries to get back up, and then the cypher hits you, causing you to let of snake. and snake will be unable to use it again after that, leading him to a falling death. it's very easy to do. yes, pit's recovery is pretty much the best in the game, but he's vulnable while he uses it. If he was was trying to get back on the edge you could easily meteor smash him. that's why its nice how zsamus's recovery move can prevent other players from edge hogging and cling on to the edge in one. the only thing that can stop it is if the other player manages to get to the edge before her tether.
That's not necessarily a "technique" as much as it is a "tactic". And any Snake player will easily recover back from that with a C4 recovery...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 08, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
Snake getting stuck under FD is one of the only joys I find in fighting him :p
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 08, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
Snake getting stuck under FD is one of the only joys I find in fighting him :p
the only thing I hate about FD...
It's amazing when you play good players you notice how fundamentally flawed so many of the stages and characters are XD
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 09, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 08, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
Snake getting stuck under FD is one of the only joys I find in fighting him :p
the only thing I hate about FD...
It's amazing when you play good players you notice how fundamentally flawed so many of the stages and characters are XD
The next FD should just be round at the bottom. No lips, just a round bottom and flat top. Basically a bowl.

That would be win.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 09, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 08, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
Snake getting stuck under FD is one of the only joys I find in fighting him :p
the only thing I hate about FD...
It's amazing when you play good players you notice how fundamentally flawed so many of the stages and characters are XD
The next FD should just be round at the bottom. No lips, just a round bottom and flat top. Basically a bowl.

That would be win.
Or how about just a plain old platform? XD
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 09, 2008, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 09, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 09, 2008, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 08, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
Snake getting stuck under FD is one of the only joys I find in fighting him :p
the only thing I hate about FD...
It's amazing when you play good players you notice how fundamentally flawed so many of the stages and characters are XD
The next FD should just be round at the bottom. No lips, just a round bottom and flat top. Basically a bowl.

That would be win.
Or how about just a plain old platform? XD
But with a bowl, you can ride up the side with certain recoveries, like Dolphin Slash... You'd never get caught unless you were at the dead bottom of the bowl :|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 04:36:53 PM
Definately Mario. He's a character that's pretty much average and doesn't have any glaring weaknesses but most people are afraid to use him. Videos like this show that he is capible of great things if you take the time to learn him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rP00yE9pyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rP00yE9pyY)

I hope to be part of the next video which will probably be made sometime later this year.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 11, 2008, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on August 08, 2008, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Ummm... What? Snake's recovery is amazing. And if Cypher does fail for any reason, he can easily C4 recover, which is pretty good.

Pit has the best recovery. I have really no idea where you're getting that it's less than great.
Meta-knights recovery>Pits
MK can glide twice to pits once and if you take any kind of dammage as you use Pits up-b you cant use it again like a normal one.
Why would you say Meta Knights is better.  Meta's has less control and Pit can freakin go under every stage and grab onto the other side without a sweat.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 11, 2008, 05:59:30 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on August 08, 2008, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 08, 2008, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 08, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
are you kidding when snake uses his to get back up to the edge you just grab him and throw him back over the edge. Pit's leaves him vulnrable to all kinds of attacks even though he can go really far with it. but ROB's doesn't really have a weakness.
Ummm... What? Snake's recovery is amazing. And if Cypher does fail for any reason, he can easily C4 recover, which is pretty good.

Pit has the best recovery. I have really no idea where you're getting that it's less than great.
Meta-knights recovery>Pits
MK can glide twice to pits once and if you take any kind of dammage as you use Pits up-b you cant use it again like a normal one.
Why would you say Meta Knights is better.  Meta's has less control and Pit can freakin go under every stage and grab onto the other side without a sweat.
'cause Meta Knights can be done twice. And I think it's just as easy to go under every stage and grab the other side with Meta Knight AND Pit.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
Pit is better at gliding than meta knight is. pit has a better recovery move than meta knight. you don't know what ur talking about.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
Pit is better at gliding than meta knight is. pit has a better recovery move than meta knight. you don't know what ur talking about.
Pit is better at gliding but Metaknight definately has the better recovery move since all it takes is a small hit to knock him out of it while Metaknight can constantly reuse his if he gets hit. Metaknight's shuttle loop also has excellent gimping capibilities, can be cancelled immediately upon landing, and the slash is more powerful and has more knockback than his smash attacks.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
Pit is better at gliding than meta knight is. pit has a better recovery move than meta knight. you don't know what ur talking about.
It's all a matter of opinion my friend.
lrn2usegudgramar
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
Pit is better at gliding than meta knight is. pit has a better recovery move than meta knight. you don't know what ur talking about.
Rob has a better recover than both of them :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 11, 2008, 07:56:23 PM
No, YOU guys don't know what you are talking about.

First, MK's glide is better. It's faster, and you can get more height/distance with it. 2nd, because of how it works, it's nearly ungimpable. you run out of jumps, you just dive down and then fly back up to the ledge thanks to his up b. You get hit out of his up b? Do it again, no problem. Guess what with Pit? If you hit him when he is doing his up b, you can't use it again. Kind of like a cyper grab on snake, except easier to do. Plus, Pit has to recharge his wings. If he is only on the stage for half a second after running out of up b his up b will last for MUCH less than normal. MK, that isn't an issue.
L2 recover plz.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 11, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 11, 2008, 07:56:23 PM
No, YOU guys don't know what you are talking about.

First, MK's glide is better. It's faster, and you can get more height/distance with it. 2nd, because of how it works, it's nearly ungimpable. you run out of jumps, you just dive down and then fly back up to the ledge thanks to his up b. You get hit out of his up b? Do it again, no problem. Guess what with Pit? If you hit him when he is doing his up b, you can't use it again. Kind of like a cyper grab on snake, except easier to do. Plus, Pit has to recharge his wings. If he is only on the stage for half a second after running out of up b his up b will last for MUCH less than normal. MK, that isn't an issue.
L2 recover plz.
and he lays down the hammer of knowledge...

this is only one of the many reasons I hate Metaknight...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
thanks to pit's recovery move which better than meta knight's he can glide under almost any ariel stage and come back up from the other side. it would be extremely difficult for metaknight to match that.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:19:28 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
thanks to pit's recovery move which better than meta knight's he can glide under almost any ariel stage and come back up from the other side. it would be extremely difficult for metaknight to match that.
Not really.
lrn2lrnfrumdawei
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
thanks to pit's recovery move which better than meta knight's he can glide under almost any ariel stage and come back up from the other side. it would be extremely difficult for metaknight to match that.

That isn't Pit's recovery move. It's his glide. Meta Knight and Charizard can do that too.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
thanks to pit's recovery move which better than meta knight's he can glide under almost any ariel stage and come back up from the other side. it would be extremely difficult for metaknight to match that.

That isn't Pit's recovery move. It's his glide. Meta Knight and Charizard can do that too.

i meant he could glide under a stage and come back on the the surface using his recovery. sorry, i forgot to include that.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
thanks to pit's recovery move which better than meta knight's he can glide under almost any ariel stage and come back up from the other side. it would be extremely difficult for metaknight to match that.

That isn't Pit's recovery move. It's his glide. Meta Knight and Charizard can do that too.

i meant he could glide under a stage and come back on the the surface using his recovery. sorry, i forgot to include that.
He can do that without his recovery move and so can Meta Knight and Charizard.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Meta Knight: Only if you suck.
Charizard: He's still able to do it.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Meta Knight: Only if you suck.
Charizard: He's still able to do it.
have you done it with charizard before?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Meta Knight: Only if you suck.
Charizard: He's still able to do it.
have you done it with charizard before?
Yes.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 08:32:10 PM
I'm not sure, but I don't think Charizard descends faster. I know he moves slower, but I think he falls slower too. Not sure though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Meta Knight: Only if you suck.
Charizard: He's still able to do it.
have you done it with charizard before?
Yes.
on what stage(s)?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
meta knight is harder to do it with. and when charizard glides he goes so slow that he decends too quickly to be able to do at a large or even medium sized stage.
Meta Knight: Only if you suck.
Charizard: He's still able to do it.
have you done it with charizard before?
Yes.
on what stage(s)?
Final Destination.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 11, 2008, 08:35:54 PM
I'm pretty sure I've done it too. Its not that hard...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
anyone of those three can do a small stage. that's nothing. if you made final destination as large as stage builder would allow it, charizard couldn't do it. meta knight have have a hard time doing it. pit would do it easily. you just do a back jump off one edge, glide, and when you get close to the other side use up B to land wherever you want.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 11, 2008, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
anyone of those three can do a small stage. that's nothing. if you made final destination as large as stage builder would allow it, charizard couldn't do it. meta knight have have a hard time doing it. pit would do it easily. you just do a back jump off one edge, glide, and when you get close to the other side use up B to land wherever you want.
False
I'm 99% positive any one of them could do it easily.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 11, 2008, 10:02:20 PM
Tibar, please leave and come back when you aren't mentally retarded.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:21:12 AM
I think I love you Dave :|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:10:46 AM
could charizard fly under hyrule temple from the righ side and come to the left side? No Probably not. Pit or meta knight could do it easily though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:10:46 AM
could charizard fly under hyrule temple from the righ side and come to the left side? No Probably not. Pit or meta knight could do it easily though.
Yes he can. All gliding characters can.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:10:46 AM
could charizard fly under hyrule temple from the righ side and come to the left side? No Probably not. Pit or meta knight could do it easily though.
Yes he can. All gliding characters can.
have you actually done it in hyrule with charizard before? he goes so slow it would be very hard.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 10:32:24 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:10:46 AM
could charizard fly under hyrule temple from the righ side and come to the left side? No Probably not. Pit or meta knight could do it easily though.
Yes he can. All gliding characters can.
have you actually done it in hyrule with charizard before? he goes so slow it would be very hard.

I just did it right now. The slow speed doesn't make it harder, if anything it makes it easier. I suggest you try it.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:38:41 AM
i can't use the wii, because my little brother is hogging it for 10 hours every day. i find hard to believe charizard could do that. you really did a back jump from the rightside cliff and went through the bottom area of the stage and came back up at the very end where the small roof is? That takes practice, even with meta knight or pit.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:38:41 AM
i can't use the wii, because my little brother is hogging it for 10 hours every day. i find hard to believe charizard could do that. you really did a back jump from the rightside cliff and went through the bottom area of the stage and came back up at the very end where the small roof is? That takes practice, even with meta knight or pit.
Yep. Its not too hard...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Any way, i think another undderated character is bowser. lots of people are afraid to use him because he's so heavy, but he is really good.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Any way, i think another undderated character is bowser. lots of people are afraid to use him because he's so heavy, but he is really good.
You say he's underrated, yet you say that people are afraid of him...?

:|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
you're confused, i said people are afraid to use him. not fight him.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 01:55:06 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
Any way, i think another undderated character is bowser. lots of people are afraid to use him because he's so heavy, but he is really good.
Nay. >_>
Charizard is more under rated than Bowser,Charizard being the more powerful one.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say Tibar and Tollhouse are the same person. Except Tibar seems is mentally challenged.
Anyway, Charizard can easily do the Hyrule Temple thing, and Bowser may be underrated, but your logic on why, sucks.
Peach is pretty underrated too.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say Tibar and Tollhouse are the same person. Except Tibar seems is mentally challenged.
Anyway, Charizard can easily do the Hyrule Temple thing, and Bowser may be underrated, but your logic on why, sucks.
Peach is pretty underrated too.
You got the wrong idea, jrdude.  Although, I don't get how people think Charizard is the best flyer when Meta and Pit clearly are faster and better at flying.  In general I think Bowser is better than Charizard.  A regular Charizard user would likely use the other two pokemon to accomidate charizard than they'd be better than bowser, but it's always the skills of the players that decide everything.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 02:21:35 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say Tibar and Tollhouse are the same person. Except Tibar seems is mentally challenged.
Anyway, Charizard can easily do the Hyrule Temple thing, and Bowser may be underrated, but your logic on why, sucks.
Peach is pretty underrated too.
You got the wrong idea, jrdude.  Although, I don't get how people think Charizard is the best flyer when Meta and Pit clearly are faster and better at flying.  In general I think Bowser is better than Charizard.  A regular Charizard user would likely use the other two pokemon to accomidate charizard than they'd be better than bowser, but it's always the skills of the players that decide everything.
Charizard isn't the best glider, but he can still do everything the other gliding characters can do.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
pit is the best glider. 4 obvious reasons why:
he has that monster recovery move to back it up.
his gliding attack is more powerful than meta knight's.
his gliding is faster than charizard's.
charizard's glide attack has more lag.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 12, 2008, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
pit is the best glider. 4 obvious reasons why:
he has that monster recovery move to back it up.
his gliding attack is more powerful than meta knight's.
his gliding is faster than charizard's.
charizard's glide attack has more lag.
You're missing the point...Charizard can still glide and attack...
Metaknight's the better glider because he's faster and his attack is genuinely harder to block. He also has less lag when he lands and can easily get up from the attack. X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
pit and meta knight's gliding attacks have no lag at all.charizard does. because of his weight and the fact that charizard's glide is so slow, he decends faster than pit or metaknight do. Pit is nearly as fast as meta knight. its very close.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 05:27:42 PM
I think the point was that Meta Knight has the best glide. Charizard's is the worst, but he can still very easily go under any stage that Meta Knight or Pit can...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:34:34 PM
pit is also better at gliding than meta knight because he has more control of where he lands thank to his recovery move. it could mean the difference of losing or wining.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 12, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:34:34 PM
pit is also better at gliding than meta knight because he has more control of where he lands thank to his recovery move. it could mean the difference of losing or wining.
I really fail to see how that matters since people tend to either grab the ledge, get the hit, or just bypass the other player altogether X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 12, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:34:34 PM
pit is also better at gliding than meta knight because he has more control of where he lands thank to his recovery move. it could mean the difference of losing or wining.
I really fail to see how that matters since people tend to either grab the ledge, get the hit, or just bypass the other player altogether X_X;;

Not to mention that Pits recovery is really laggy and he is defenseless while using it. I would rather just glide without using up b...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:55:31 PM
yeah, but with meta knight's recovery, the opponent can predict where meta knight will land, no matter what the stage surroundings are. Pit is the complete opposite. he can go wherever he wants. for instance, if there was an upper platform up high, pit could easily get up there and escape from enemy reach, and then would have time to regroup before the enemy could get to him.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
Charizard is the best of PT's 3 choices...

And I'm almost certain he's better than Bowser... but whatever...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 05:56:56 PM
Tibar, just shut up and admit you're retarded.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 05:56:56 PM
Tibar, just shut up and admit you're retarded.
I completely support this notion.
And with that, I'm going to abuse my power and say shuttup up, admit you are wrong, stop arguing, or face the ban.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 12, 2008, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity.
Here it comes X_X;;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 06:08:38 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 12, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
Charizard is the best of PT's 3 choices...

And I'm almost certain he's better than Bowser... but whatever...

I'd agree with that. I find Charizard extremely useful with PT. I usually like staying with Ivy or Charizard. Squirtle just doesn't interest me :O
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
If NSider2's mods had any brain, they'd most likely ban you, too. If you haven't been banned there yet for the same illogical sh** that you post here, then NSider2's mods are as retarded as you, boy.

KTHXBAI ;)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
And we DID give you good reasons. But you clearly don't accept anything that doesn't come from your own mouth-... fingers.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
And we DID give you good reasons. But you clearly don't accept anything that doesn't come from your own mouth-... fingers.
you don't accept anything i say either. i'll compromise and say pit and meta knight are equal when it comes to gliding.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Nayrman on August 12, 2008, 06:44:24 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
And we DID give you good reasons. But you clearly don't accept anything that doesn't come from your own mouth-... fingers.
you don't accept anything i say either. i'll compromise and say pit and meta knight are equal when it comes to gliding.
They're...not though X_X;;
Metaknight is faster, can glide twice, isn't completely open when using it, and his attack is ever so slightly faster than Pit's...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 06:48:32 PM
fine. it felt natural to me to think pit was better since i know a meta knight user that loses in glide clashes to me when we fight pit with meta knight.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 07:02:23 PM
I think Kirby is somewhat underrated. He's not the best character out there, but he's definitely not the worst. I barely ever see anyone play as Kirby though...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Timmy0591 on August 12, 2008, 07:02:57 PM
Thing is, Pit in general when it comes air talk, loses to Metaknight. Meta has 5 jumps, and like someone said before, is faster and more powerful. Pit only has 4. =/

Now, to who I think is underrated.

C. Falc: Seriously, I love playing as this guy because he does the coolest poop. Like when I Falcon Kick into a wall and I do that crazy backflip. Nothing more satisfying than a Falcon Punch, and he just has cool looking moves. Oh, and forgot to mention Knee of Justice. Aside from that hes fairly strong, with a number of killing moves. Yes, he does lack a projectile, but you just need to stay on your opponents ass to keep that from lowering your chances of winning.

Shiek: If you've played Melee, you should know that she got a strong wack from a Nerfbat, but that still doesn't mean shes poop. Shes just fast in general and almost none of her attacks have any end lag. If someone can vouch for me, my Shiek is above average and I do decent against other people. You just need to know how to play her right.



Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:08:00 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
:|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Timmy0591 on August 12, 2008, 07:09:15 PM
Don't antagonize him after an Admin told him not to do anything. Its like rattling a dogs cage.

Stay on topic. >_>
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
if you do that i'm leavng the forums.  :(
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
if you do that i'm leavng the forums.  :(
The choice is yours, Jr. Choose wisely, I shall not interfere.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
if you do that i'm leavng the forums.  :(
The choice is yours, Jr. Choose wisely, I shall not interfere.
:O
The question is, will he really leave?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Zies on August 12, 2008, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 07:29:44 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
at least i don't have a naked lady on my avatar. i still have my dignity. you could've tried to give me a good reason why I was wrong instead of flaming at me or whatever. if you ban me i always have my account on  nsider2.
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
if you do that i'm leavng the forums.  :(
The choice is yours, Jr. Choose wisely, I shall not interfere.
:O
The question is, will he really leave?
...If he doesn't, we can simply delete his account or ban him...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
:O
The question is, will he really leave?
I don't see why he hasn't, already :| :| :| :| :|

Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
If you do that, I'll do something with my sig, too. *looks back at floated thread*

I most definately wouldn't, though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:34:18 PM
i guarentee if he does you'll nver see tibar21 post again. i'll stick to my word cause i'm not a liar.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:34:18 PM
i guarentee if he does you'll nver see tibar21 post again. i'll stick to my word cause i'm not a liar.
K bye.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 12, 2008, 07:38:39 PM
This thread lowered my IQ a few points, honestly.

Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 12, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
Charizard is the best of PT's 3 choices...

And I'm almost certain he's better than Bowser... but whatever...
Ivysaur owns Charizard in every way except in the air.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
I think I love you, JrDude.

Why wouldn't he want his account deleted? It's not like he's gonna come back :|
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
I WIN! *shall change avatar soon*
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Zies on August 12, 2008, 07:41:48 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
I think I love you, JrDude.

Why wouldn't he want his account deleted? It's not like he's gonna come back :|
...He's mentally ill...
...Haven't you heard?...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 12, 2008, 07:43:57 PM
He's probably going to be back tomorrow.

Also, I dunno if I ever said who I thought was underrated, but I think that Mario and Gannondorf seem extremely underused. Mario is because he's so average that people are afraid to use him in front of someone like Snake. Gannondorf is just so slow that people think he's going to suck. Sure, he's possibly the lowest tier near Yoshi, but he certainly has potential.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 12, 2008, 07:43:57 PM
He's probably going to be back tomorrow.

Also, I dunno if I ever said who I thought was underrated, but I think that Mario and Gannondorf seem extremely underused. Mario is because he's so average that people are afraid to use him in front of someone like Snake. Gannondorf is just so slow that people think he's going to suck. Sure, he's possibly the lowest tier near Yoshi, but he certainly has potential.
And those people were right.

Mario on the other hand isn't that under-rated.
He certainly has potential... just not as much as we would have hoped. D:
I use him on occasion, but Lucas and Peach made me lose my timing with him...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 12, 2008, 07:43:57 PM
He's probably going to be back tomorrow.

Also, I dunno if I ever said who I thought was underrated, but I think that Mario and Gannondorf seem extremely underused. Mario is because he's so average that people are afraid to use him in front of someone like Snake. Gannondorf is just so slow that people think he's going to suck. Sure, he's possibly the lowest tier near Yoshi, but he certainly has potential.
If a Tier ever got made, Yoshi should be way up there.
Yoshi rocks, and I figured that out by accident.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 12, 2008, 07:43:57 PM
He's probably going to be back tomorrow.

Also, I dunno if I ever said who I thought was underrated, but I think that Mario and Gannondorf seem extremely underused. Mario is because he's so average that people are afraid to use him in front of someone like Snake. Gannondorf is just so slow that people think he's going to suck. Sure, he's possibly the lowest tier near Yoshi, but he certainly has potential.
If a Tier ever got made, Yoshi should be way up there.
Yoshi rocks, and I figured that out by accident.
One was, he was bottom tier.
Sorry try again next time. D:
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Matt on August 12, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
I WIN! *shall change avatar soon*

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8967/jrdudeqh5.jpg)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 12, 2008, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 12, 2008, 07:43:57 PM
He's probably going to be back tomorrow.

Also, I dunno if I ever said who I thought was underrated, but I think that Mario and Gannondorf seem extremely underused. Mario is because he's so average that people are afraid to use him in front of someone like Snake. Gannondorf is just so slow that people think he's going to suck. Sure, he's possibly the lowest tier near Yoshi, but he certainly has potential.
If a Tier ever got made, Yoshi should be way up there.
Yoshi rocks, and I figured that out by accident.
One was, he was bottom tier.
Sorry try again next time. D:
That person just sucks with Yoshi. Yoshi rocks.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:52:11 PM
Quote from: `Matt` on August 12, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
I WIN! *shall change avatar soon*

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8967/jrdudeqh5.jpg)
Hey look, a new user using the avatar and title I used to get rid of Tibar, and he somehow has my rank too. :O
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 07:53:03 PM
It was made by M2K.

He's a robot, he doesn't make mistakes.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:53:22 PM
I like you sig, `Matt`.

Seriously, why do they link to the Soul Calibur IV site, though? I'm confuzzled.

Also, I think Link is pretty underrated...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 12, 2008, 07:53:03 PM
It was made by M2K.

He's a robot, he doesn't make mistakes.
YES THEY DO!

@Xin
Dawei changed the links of them all for his needs.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
:O
The question is, will he really leave?
I don't see why he hasn't, already :| :| :| :| :|

Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
So you'd rather I have a naked man on my avatar?
If you do that, I'll do something with my sig, too. *looks back at floated thread*

I most definately wouldn't, though.

YOU MUST DO IT NAO!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 12, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
Dave is being lazy and won't get a job.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Packerfan on August 12, 2008, 07:58:01 PM
pikachu is underrated. his down smash rocks.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: Packerfan on August 12, 2008, 07:58:01 PM
pikachu is underrated. his down smash rocks.
ONO! IT'S TIBAR!
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Packerfan on August 12, 2008, 08:00:54 PM
wasn't tibar that guy that left? i'm new here.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: Packerfan on August 12, 2008, 08:00:54 PM
wasn't tibar that guy that left? i'm new here.
You signed up 10 minutes after he left, it's very obvious who you are.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:02:44 PM
Quote from: Packerfan on August 12, 2008, 08:00:54 PM
wasn't tibar that guy that left? i'm new here.
You signed up 10 minutes after he left, it's very obvious who you are.
It's obviously not tibar, he used correct punctuation.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 08:04:18 PM
Didn't Tibar say he just started with Diddy? I bet I could have beaten him in Diddy dittos though.
Or anyone else for that matter :D

Welcome to the forums Packerfan. And such suspicious timing too! ;D
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Syncopathic on August 12, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
your spelling is poop.
Good bye.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: Sync on August 12, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
ah sh*t bye bye. remember me...
don't dlete my account though.
your spelling is poop.
Good bye.
He's hiding his grammar in that account and uses it on his other accounts.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Zies on August 12, 2008, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
...You lied...:>...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: BOSSNIG on August 12, 2008, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: Zies on August 12, 2008, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
...You lied...:>...
Golden Ban Hammer time?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
Stop acting you retard, we all know you were that Pakersfan.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
Stop acting you retard, we all know you were that Pakersfan.
Even if he says he's not, we now know he loves to lie.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 12, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:16:15 PM
uh nsider2 was too boring and pointless. though you have to admit, that scheme was somewhat amusing.
Stop acting you retard, we all know you were that Pakersfan.
Even if he says he's not, we now know he loves to lie.
Yes, he's also Tollhouse if you haven't noticed.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:22:47 PM
tollhouse is my older brother. he's the one that introduced me to this site. You can even ask Skye. He knows Tollhouse is my brother. i'm seriously not lying about this.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Zies on August 12, 2008, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:22:47 PM
tollhouse is my older brother. he's the one that introduced me to this site. You can even ask Skye. He knows Tollhouse is my brother. i'm seriously not lying about this.
...You love to lie...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 12, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
just ask skye. i'm not lying.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:29:23 PM
Okay, I don't like where this is going!  I'll straighten this out right now!  Tollhouse is me darn it!!!  I will do anything to prove that I'm a different person.  I've been a member for over 10 months much longer than Tibar and I have a much higher rank.  I know this is irrelevent to the topic but my reputation is a stake. 
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Look, he told me he liked the videos so he put the tourettes guy stuff on but he didn't pick the same one I have.  And I have had a general greivous avatar for 5 months
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:52:52 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Look, he told me he liked the videos so he put the tourettes guy stuff on but he didn't pick the same one I have.  And I have had a general greivous avatar for 5 months
I hereby end this conversation with a "I don't care anymore, so stfu"
Any spam shall be ignored by me, and if it's part of this, then I will ask for this thread to get locked, though it may not work.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:52:52 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:41:24 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Look, he told me he liked the videos so he put the tourettes guy stuff on but he didn't pick the same one I have.  And I have had a general greivous avatar for 5 months
I hereby end this conversation with a "I don't care anymore, so stfu"
Any spam shall be ignored by me, and if it's part of this, then I will ask for this thread to get locked, though it may not work.
Fine, I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: QingXin on August 13, 2008, 09:58:49 AM
This is too funny.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Java on August 13, 2008, 10:14:25 AM
...Is it safe to come in?

Is tibar gone?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 13, 2008, 10:14:25 AM
...Is it safe to come in?

Is tibar gone?
Well, I guess.  He's not active right now.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 13, 2008, 10:19:48 AM
I'm surprised Mack hasn't locked this yet... he's off his game.  =O
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:22:43 AM
We should probably get back on topic.  I think the following are underrated; Kirby, G&W, Zelda, and Bowser.  Somebody argue with me so we can get this topic going again.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Java on August 13, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 13, 2008, 10:19:48 AM
I'm surprised Mack hasn't locked this yet... he's off his game.  =O
Shhh...don't let MoMmy here us.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 13, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:22:43 AM
We should probably get back on topic.  I think the following are underrated; Kirby, G&W, Zelda, and Bowser.  Somebody argue with me so we can get this topic going again.
Game and watch is top of high tier if I remember correctly, he's certainly not under-rated. D:
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 13, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:22:43 AM
We should probably get back on topic.  I think the following are underrated; Kirby, G&W, Zelda, and Bowser.  Somebody argue with me so we can get this topic going again.
Game and watch is top of high tier if I remember correctly, he's certainly not under-rated. D:
Okay, well I'm certain that Kirby is underrated and he is one of the most powerful characters.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Skye8600 on August 13, 2008, 11:26:52 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 13, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 13, 2008, 10:22:43 AM
We should probably get back on topic.  I think the following are underrated; Kirby, G&W, Zelda, and Bowser.  Somebody argue with me so we can get this topic going again.
Game and watch is top of high tier if I remember correctly, he's certainly not under-rated. D:
Okay, well I'm certain that Kirby is underrated and he is one of the most powerful characters.
i agree there
and even though some of you dont care anymore, ims till gonna point this out
Tollhouse and Tibar are two different people.

But anyways, Kirby is one of those characters not many people use, yet are quite good
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 13, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
GW was the top of upper tier (below top, above high). Kirby is at the top of high tier.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on August 13, 2008, 03:50:54 PM
Wolf.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Dawei on August 13, 2008, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on August 13, 2008, 03:50:54 PM
Wolf.
We are talking about underrated, not overrated.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: jnfs2014 on August 13, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 13, 2008, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on August 13, 2008, 03:50:54 PM
Wolf.
We are talking about underrated, not overrated.
oh.....Link.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 14, 2008, 06:37:43 AM
Quote from: Cogs on August 13, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
GW was the top of upper tier (below top, above high). Kirby is at the top of high tier.
I forgot upper. D:
Too many divisions now.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: BOSSNIG on August 14, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Stop being such a faggot. You're worse than them.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tollhouse2006 on August 14, 2008, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 14, 2008, 06:37:43 AM
Quote from: Cogs on August 13, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
GW was the top of upper tier (below top, above high). Kirby is at the top of high tier.
I forgot upper. D:
Too many divisions now.

I'm gonna have to get used to your new name.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 14, 2008, 04:20:28 PM
you could make a case that sheik is a little underrated. she was one of the best in melee, and she was severly nerfed, so now some people think she's weak.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 14, 2008, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 14, 2008, 04:20:28 PM
you could make a case that sheik is a little underrated. she was one of the best in melee, and she was severly nerfed, so now some people think she's weak.
That's what nerfed means
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 14, 2008, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on August 14, 2008, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 14, 2008, 04:20:28 PM
you could make a case that sheik is a little underrated. she was one of the best in melee, and she was severly nerfed, so now some people think she's weak.
That's what nerfed means
when a character is nerfed, it doesn't mean that they are generally weak, it means they're weaker or not as strong as they used to be. i was trying to say that she was nerfed but she is still pretty good.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: JrDude on August 14, 2008, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: Darklink on August 14, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
Quote from: JrDude on August 12, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on August 12, 2008, 08:33:44 PM
Quote from: Dawei on August 12, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
The matching IP completely falls into the older brother theory, and I'm just going to go with that because of how different their posting style is. And I'm lazy.
Is it my fault I use the same computer as him? 
And that you both used that retard guy in your sig, AND your avatar was once that white giggling guy, and Tibar had it like that for a short time too.
Stop being such a faggot. You're worse than them.
I don't see how, but OK.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:47:37 AM
I completely forgot that I made this thread. Anyway, stay on topic guys.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Eizweir on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.
you also have to be careful not to roll dodge into his side smash. I've died at 30% damage so many times because of that side smash.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 15, 2008, 08:50:39 PM
I think Bowser is somewhat underrated. He's not the best out there, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of people actually trying to max out his potential.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
bowser's air attacks are great when someone is trying to get back on the stage. he is underrated.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 08:58:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.
you also have to be careful not to roll dodge into his side smash. I've died at 30% damage so many times because of that side smash.
Anyone who actually charges up something like Snake's Side Smash must be praying to whoever they believe in during that.

SUCH a hard attack to land.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 09:00:15 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:58:13 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.
you also have to be careful not to roll dodge into his side smash. I've died at 30% damage so many times because of that side smash.
Anyone who actually charges up something like Snake's Side Smash must be praying to whoever they believe in during that.

SUCH a hard attack to land.
Tollhouse is pretty good at it. he lands it on me a lot.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on August 15, 2008, 09:16:27 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser's grabs work pretty well against Meta Knight :P
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
If shuttle loop is that hard to land, then my brother must be a intercourse in pro by now! He hits everyone with it, and I dont think it's that hard D:
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
If shuttle loop is that hard to land, then my brother must be a intercourse in pro by now! He hits everyone with it, and I dont think it's that hard D:
That was coming from me, who mained Luigi in Melee, and has him as a secondary in Brawl >_>;
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
If shuttle loop is that hard to land, then my brother must be a intercourse in pro by now! He hits everyone with it, and I dont think it's that hard D:
That was coming from me, who mained Luigi in Melee, and has him as a secondary in Brawl >_>;
:| maybe you just suck with MK? ????
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Kilroy on August 15, 2008, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
If shuttle loop is that hard to land, then my brother must be a intercourse in pro by now! He hits everyone with it, and I dont think it's that hard D:
That was coming from me, who mained Luigi in Melee, and has him as a secondary in Brawl >_>;
:| maybe you just suck with MK? ????
You missed it.

I meant that Luigi's up-B is a little bit hard to land, and when I play as MK, I find it around as hard to land for a KO.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the darned land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.
If shuttle loop is that hard to land, then my brother must be a intercourse in pro by now! He hits everyone with it, and I dont think it's that hard D:
That was coming from me, who mained Luigi in Melee, and has him as a secondary in Brawl >_>;
:| maybe you just suck with MK? ????
You missed it.

I meant that Luigi's up-B is a little bit hard to land, and when I play as MK, I find it around as hard to land for a KO.
...? I still dont understand what you mean...
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 16, 2008, 11:11:19 AM
Bowser is a slow, big ass target to a good Mk player.
Not to mention All MK has to do is Tornado spam and Bowser is basically screwed thanks to low air mobility and his unsightly gut.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Timmy0591 on August 16, 2008, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.


It's hard to land because you simply don't practice it in Training. What you should do is go in and go against a fairly medium sized target and pratice where the sweet spot is. Then just capitalize on it.


Luigi's Up B is by far one of the easiest to pull off. I don't see how you guys can't do it. All you need to do is do a Dtilt before the Up B. The Dtilt will put the enemy in the right place for the Sweet spotted Up B and it holds them there, it doesn't send them flying.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: HTA! on August 16, 2008, 11:34:03 AM
Quote from: Timmy0591 on August 16, 2008, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ridley on August 15, 2008, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 15, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
Captain Falcon is underrated.
I just like how he can react well to most situations (as in not MK or Snake :|) his speed works well for that.
Besides, who doesn't love a good Falcon Punch?

CF can beat Snake easily.

Just don't fall into the danged land mines or his tilts and you'll be fine.

That is like saying Bowser can easily beat MK. Just don't get hit.
Bowser vs. MK?

If Metaknight can actually manage to knock Bowser off the stage, I'll be impressed.

Because Mk' down smash and shuttle loop is really weak.
Shuttle Loop is a tad hard to land (Maybe about as hard as landing Luigi's Up-B), and I've never been hit by MK's down smash, so I dunno what it does.


It's hard to land because you simply don't practice it in Training. What you should do is go in and go against a fairly medium sized target and pratice where the sweet spot is. Then just capitalize on it.


Luigi's Up B is by far one of the easiest to pull off. I don't see how you guys can't do it. All you need to do is do a Dtilt before the Up B. The Dtilt will put the enemy in the right place for the Sweet spotted Up B and it holds them there, it doesn't send them flying.
Normal A-jab works just as well. :O
D-tilt also makes them trip at a percentage of over 90... the ultimate ninny slap.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Timmy0591 on August 16, 2008, 11:38:45 AM
Yeah that works too. But I always did the Dtilt.


Now that we are on the topic of Luigi. I remember in Melee when I was at a party. 3 of my friends did a Free For All where all we did was Joust (Meaning we only chose Pikachu, Luigi, Pichu, and Yoshi ((Yeah, I know his Side B doesn't throw him foward, but we didn't want any dittos) and only used their side Bs) It was awesome when Luigi got the charged Green missle and went flying off the stage.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 17, 2008, 05:47:08 PM
Wow.....Maybe SSBM CF, but not Brawl and MK beats out Booza.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on September 09, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Bowser is pretty underrated. He has a glitch that makes him a lot better.
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Cornwad on September 09, 2008, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Ridley on September 09, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Bowser is pretty underrated. He has a glitch that makes him a lot better.

Not to mention chaingrabs on pretty much every character who isn't DK or Luigi and awesome grab release options on everyone buy DK.

Nothing beats grab release to Bowser Bomb victory  ;)
Title: Re: Underrated characters
Post by: Ridley on September 09, 2008, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on September 09, 2008, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: Ridley on September 09, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Bowser is pretty underrated. He has a glitch that makes him a lot better.

Not to mention chaingrabs on pretty much every character who isn't DK or Luigi and awesome grab release options on everyone buy DK.

Nothing beats grab release to Bowser Bomb victory  ;)

Heck yeah. Hey if you got anymore tricks like that, pm me them and I will tell you what I do as well.