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Game-o-rama => General Gaming => Pokemon => Topic started by: Missingno6 on March 27, 2010, 09:28:55 AM

Title: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Missingno6 on March 27, 2010, 09:28:55 AM
I saw that if I chose Chikarita then the first part (start to after beating the E4 the first time) would be quite difficult. Anyone else notice that Chikorita is very weak against Johto?
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Missingno6 on March 27, 2010, 09:46:31 AM
Cyndaquil gives an easy first half
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Cornwad on March 27, 2010, 11:24:52 AM
Yeah, I didn't use my chikorita much. If you get that Onix at the beginning its easy though.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Missingno6 on March 27, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
I'm working on Lance  lol
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: bluaki on March 27, 2010, 11:54:51 AM
Grass-types have generally always been the worst ones to start off with. In Kanto only, they make the first two leaders weak to Grass so that Bulbasaur has an advantage at the beginning but then loses it as soon as you start facing Team Rocket with all their Zubat (0.25x grass resist) and other poison-type pokemon (0.5x).

Johto removes any advantage that grass had in Kanto by making those first two gyms actually strong against Chikorita.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: DededeCloneChris on March 27, 2010, 11:56:27 AM
Well, at least Grass-types have an easier time leveling up, right?
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Lotos on April 04, 2010, 01:18:05 PM
Totodile pays off once it learns Ice Fang.  You can easily defeat Lance once you have Feraligatr at level 50.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: So_So_Man on April 04, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
Quote from: Lotos on April 04, 2010, 01:18:05 PM
Totodile pays off once it learns Ice Fang.  You can easily defeat Lance once you have Feraligatr at level 50.
it was a ninny beating lance with a level 40 Feraligatr
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Lotos on April 04, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: So_So_Man on April 04, 2010, 01:49:11 PM
it was a ninny beating lance with a level 40 Feraligatr

Mine also was holding a NeverMeltIce.  :x
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: So_So_Man on April 04, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Lotos on April 04, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Mine also was holding a NeverMeltIce.  :x
That also would have helped, but i think mine had mystic water.  But my basic battle plan for lance was basically "use choice scarf ampharos to discharge the gyarados and maybe the aerodactyl, ice fang the dragonites, and hope like hell i freeze one".  Somehow I managed to freeze both, making the fight much easier.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Drezford_the_Rebell on April 04, 2010, 06:02:39 PM
I see more and more people using totodile these days. I, on the other hand, love Typhlosion too much to not start with Cyndaquil. It's strong against both the first gyms, and then once I get to the 3rd gym I'm able to buy Fire Blast.

If that's not quality, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: So_So_Man on April 04, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Drezford_the_Rebell on April 04, 2010, 06:02:39 PM
I see more and more people using totodile these days. I, on the other hand, love Typhlosion too much to not start with Cyndaquil. It's strong against both the first gyms, and then once I get to the 3rd gym I'm able to buy Fire Blast.

If that's not quality, I don't know what is.
flame thrower
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Magnum on April 05, 2010, 07:59:27 AM
I love Chikorita. Best ever. I always choose her as my first.

Then I get other Pokèmon and never use her :(
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: FearItself on April 05, 2010, 09:20:45 AM
That's exactly why I picked Chikorita. I knew that from the beginning.

Honestly, it wouldn't hurt to have a bit of a challenge. I went through the whole Johto part of the game with a Togetic, Beedril, and Meganium at the end, after the Elite Four. Yes, that's right, Beedril. And I beat all of the gyms with them too. The Elite Four was tough, but I did it. With just those three. It was fun to be unorthodox.

Now, of course, I'm training other Pokemon for the later parts of the game. I only wanted to make it tougher on myself in Johto, lol, not the whole game. Although I bet I could do that too. Ah well. :p
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Missingno6 on April 05, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: FearItself on April 05, 2010, 09:20:45 AM
That's exactly why I picked Chikorita. I knew that from the beginning.
Looks like great minds think alike!
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: PsychoYoshi on April 05, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
Most people also don't like Chikorita because they try using them as sweepers when their natural role is that of a tank/supporter. They learn Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard, Aromatherapy, Synthesis, and all manner of support moves as level-up skills, and both their Defense and Special Defense are high enough to avoid being OHKO'd by Flamethrower, X-Scissor, or Ice Beam.

I used to hate Grass-types, but they've really improved in Gen IV, especially with Seed Bomb and Energy Ball. Can't speak for the metagame because I'm not a statwhoring EV trainer, but whatever.
Title: Re: Choosing Chikarita at the begining?
Post by: Lotos on April 06, 2010, 07:56:20 AM
Quote from: FearItself on April 05, 2010, 09:20:45 AM
Yes, that's right, Beedril.

I take my hat off to you, sir.  Did you have an HM slave too?  It seems whenever I have an HM slave, it is the weakest of my team.  I don't think my Bibarel in Diamond made it past 50.

Quote from: Dark Link on April 05, 2010, 05:05:43 PM
Most people also don't like Chikorita because they try using them as sweepers when their natural role is that of a tank/supporter.
Do they have this information at smogen or serebii?  I'm too stupid to figure this stuff out myself.