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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 03:10:30 AM

Title: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 03:10:30 AM
New boards, new people, new themes, and more activity. Invite your friends! I'm tired of low activity.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 03:36:47 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 03:10:30 AMnew themes

Can we import some of the classic ones?
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 03:36:47 AMCan we import some of the classic ones?
Probably, I just need to make sure they're compatible.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 09:14:16 AM
They're not. But I installed a theme that looks at least a little less awful than the default.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 09:46:27 AM
Also, should we add more boards? Take away boards? Add an imageboard similar to 4chan? I can do ANYTHING.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 09:58:24 AM
I can try to dig up the Oldsider assets, but adding or removing forums doesn't mean anything if it doesn't get new people (or bring back old regulars). Maybe think about some kind of social media campaign targeting people who used to frequent Oldsider.

Also: Fix the UI. If you haven't noticed, smiles and certain forum functions don't seem to work.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 10:14:31 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 09:58:24 AMI can try to dig up the Oldsider assets, but adding or removing forums doesn't mean anything if it doesn't get new people (or bring back old regulars). Maybe think about some kind of social media campaign targeting people who used to frequent Oldsider.

Also: Fix the UI. If you haven't noticed, smiles and certain forum functions don't seem to work.
Yeah, some file paths got broken during the upgrade. I'll be working on that.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 10:14:31 AMYeah, some file paths got broken during the upgrade. I'll be working on that.
Fixing things should be top priority, but if you can generalize the icons that all themes have in common, I'd have an easier time putting together "theme packages". Banners need no such info.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on September 30, 2018, 10:17:58 AMFixing things should be top priority, but if you can generalize the icons that all themes have in common, I'd have an easier time putting together "theme packages". Banners need no such info.
Well, I fixed the smilies, though they're all back to SMF's defaults for now. What parts of the UI are broken?
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 01, 2018, 02:03:23 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 02:05:02 PMWell, I fixed the smilies, though they're all back to SMF's defaults for now. What parts of the UI are broken?
Logging in.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 01, 2018, 04:09:18 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 02:05:02 PMWell, I fixed the smilies, though they're all back to SMF's defaults for now. What parts of the UI are broken?
Besides losing some bracket-dependent features:


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Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 02, 2018, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 01, 2018, 04:09:18 AMBesides losing some bracket-dependent features

i.e.:

Quote from: JrDude on October 01, 2018, 11:08:02 PMSpoiler alert without the spoiler boxes.

BTW I've been meaning to ask: What's with the blank daily digest e-mails? I don't recall setting up any e-mail notifications for any sort of digest. Interesting enough, I missed a reply in nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=40338.0.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 05, 2018, 04:07:04 PM
Quote from: Super on October 01, 2018, 02:03:23 AMLogging in.
is that broken? I may need to try and do a fresh install or something.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 05, 2018, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 02, 2018, 08:38:13 PMi.e.:

BTW I've been meaning to ask: What's with the blank daily digest e-mails? I don't recall setting up any e-mail notifications for any sort of digest. Interesting enough, I missed a reply in nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=40338.0.
Not sure, I'll see if I can just disable them sitewide.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 05, 2018, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 05, 2018, 04:07:04 PMis that broken?
"Always stay logged in" doesn't always stay logged in.

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 05, 2018, 04:07:31 PMNot sure, I'll see if I can just disable them sitewide.
I'll be checking the site more often in case it breaks something.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 06, 2018, 02:41:42 AM
Could archive this place and just do a fresh install. Like start from zero. Rethink the boards and whatnot without any old cruft blocking anything. Could try another forum software like Vanilla for poops and gigs too.




We can't really expect too much of an activity boost though. We'd have to evolve beyond just a forum, but even that isn't surefire at all.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: L10 on October 06, 2018, 08:11:57 PM
Quote from: Super on October 06, 2018, 02:41:42 AMCould archive this place and just do a fresh install. Like start from zero. Rethink the boards and whatnot without any old cruft blocking anything. Could try another forum software like Vanilla for poops and gigs too.




We can't really expect too much of an activity boost though. We'd have to evolve beyond just a forum, but even that isn't surefire at all.

Pretty much this.

Forum software and/or theme that's much more mobile friendly?

Also from what I've seen, active forums are communities built around something else. Like a news/reviews, YouTuber, or something like that.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 07, 2018, 08:01:29 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 05, 2018, 05:53:19 PM"Always stay logged in" doesn't always stay logged in.
I'll be checking the site more often in case it breaks something.
I've noticed that as well. Those emails have been disabled sitewide, though.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 07, 2018, 08:02:35 AM
Quote from: Super on October 06, 2018, 02:41:42 AMCould archive this place and just do a fresh install. Like start from zero. Rethink the boards and whatnot without any old cruft blocking anything. Could try another forum software like Vanilla for poops and gigs too.




We can't really expect too much of an activity boost though. We'd have to evolve beyond just a forum, but even that isn't surefire at all.
That's another possibility. SMF is pretty dated, even with this newest update. Archiving it would be pretty easy.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 07, 2018, 09:22:51 AM
Quote from: Super on October 06, 2018, 02:41:42 AMCould archive this place and just do a fresh install. Like start from zero. Rethink the boards and whatnot without any old cruft blocking anything. Could try another forum software like Vanilla for poops and gigs too.




We can't really expect too much of an activity boost though. We'd have to evolve beyond just a forum, but even that isn't surefire at all.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 07, 2018, 08:02:35 AMThat's another possibility. SMF is pretty dated, even with this newest update. Archiving it would be pretty easy.
It doesn't make sense to take drastic measures if it does nothing for our activity. We should wait until we've made more effort bringing back old users (and attracting NSiders who never joined NSFCD).

Quote from: L10 on October 06, 2018, 08:11:57 PMPretty much this.

Forum software and/or theme that's much more mobile friendly?

Also from what I've seen, active forums are communities built around something else. Like a news/reviews, YouTuber, or something like that.
http://nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=37333.0
http://nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=40182.0

Anyway, is IRC still a thing? Maybe that's where people are hiding.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 07, 2018, 11:08:36 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 30, 2018, 02:05:02 PMWell, I fixed the smilies, though they're all back to SMF's defaults for now. What parts of the UI are broken?
If you're interested, I found the old NSider smilies: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.nintendo.com:80/i/smilies/*

There are others, but you'll need to filter results (i.e. "thread"): https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.nintendo.com:80/nintendo/i/*
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 07, 2018, 11:18:57 PM
I don't think of any of that is terribly drastic or difficult. It's not like we have much to lose.








Also, we migrated to Discord from IRC.
http://nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=39912.0




Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 04:12:13 AM
Quote from: Super on October 07, 2018, 11:18:57 PMI don't think of any of that is terribly drastic or difficult. It's not like we have much to lose.








Also, we migrated to Discord from IRC.
http://nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=39912.0





It's drastic compared to the other things we should be tending to before considering it (and it's likely that it'd be pointless, possibly counterproductive, and a wasted effort regardless).

Also, I imagine our channels are just as dead, so I'll ask again: is IRC still a thing?
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 08, 2018, 04:26:47 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 04:12:13 AMIt's drastic compared to the other things we should be tending to before considering it (and it's likely that it'd be pointless, possibly counterproductive, and a wasted effort regardless).

Also, I imagine our channels are just as dead, so I'll ask again: is IRC still a thing?
Internet Relay Chat does indeed exist.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: Super on October 08, 2018, 04:26:47 AMInternet Relay Chat does indeed exist.
The question isn't whether it exists, but whether people still use it.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: L10 on October 08, 2018, 06:52:35 PM
SSL might be nice too.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 08, 2018, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 09:05:49 AMThe question isn't whether it exists, but whether people still use it.
I dunno, join an IRC server and ask if people use it.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 10:02:44 PM
Quote from: Super on October 08, 2018, 08:51:57 PMI dunno, join an IRC server and ask if people use it.
And if I were to ask about servers and channels, you'd serve an equally smartass reply. You're not helping.

Quote from: Max Headroom on October 02, 2018, 08:38:13 PMI missed a reply in nsfcd.com/index.php?topic=40338.0.
I missed the e-mail notification for the above post, as well.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: JrDude on October 08, 2018, 11:07:58 PM
Maybe if someone becomes a good YouTuber, they could just advertise there.
I know Nayrman does/did fairly well.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 08, 2018, 11:11:02 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 08, 2018, 10:02:44 PMAnd if I were to ask about servers and channels, you'd serve an equally smartass reply. You're not helping.
I missed the e-mail notification for the above post, as well.
You're going to get smartass replies if you simply ignore the answer I already provided. I said that we migrated to Discord from IRC (and linked to the relevant thread). If that isn't good enough for you then so be it. I wasn't truly trying to be a dick but now you're kinda rubbing me the wrong way.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: JrDude on October 08, 2018, 11:07:58 PMMaybe if someone becomes a good YouTuber, they could just advertise there.
I know Nayrman does/did fairly well.
What's our adverting goal through that channel?

Quote from: Super on October 08, 2018, 11:11:02 PMYou're going to get smartass replies if you simply ignore the answer I already provided.
Except I didn't. Not everyone likes Discord, and we may very well be leaving stone unturned by ignoring IRC. There's a time and a place for poopposting, but this thread isn't it, so spare us the crap.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 02:47:15 AM
or we can bring back old fads, or succumb to current memes.

Quote from: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 12:14:04 AMWhat's our adverting goal through that channel?
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Wouldn't our advertising goal to get more people to join NSFCD?
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 04:22:00 AM
Quote from: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 02:47:15 AMor we can bring back old fads, or succumb to current memes.
Where do you think the old posters went? There's no harm in trying the meme, but how do we make it work for us?

Quote from: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 02:47:15 AMI'm not sure I understand the question.
Wouldn't our advertising goal to get more people to join NSFCD?
In general, but who's the target audience? People who used to post/lurk on NSider, or just gamers? What of those who used to be active here, and how does Youtube advertising fit into that? In other words, what would be using Youtube for?
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 04:22:00 AMWhere do you think the old posters went? There's no harm in trying the meme, but how do we make it work for us?
When memes are trending, people search for it. If we're talking about it enough, our results eventually show on Google.

Quote from: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 04:22:00 AMIn general, but who's the target audience? People who used to post/lurk on NSider, or just gamers? What of those who used to be active here, and how does Youtube advertising fit into that? In other words, what would be using Youtube for?
I'd say gamers in general.
But it could easily be a gaming channel, like Let's Plays. Maybe a discussion/podcast.
Making Silver a Meme could be cool. How he always breaks things.
Sometimes we need to try a bunch of things, see what sticks, and stick to it.
At the end of videos, link or at least mention the forum, NSFCD.
I used to make gaming videos, though not for too long of a period of time, but if we did that, I could help.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Super on October 10, 2018, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 09, 2018, 12:14:04 AMWhat's our adverting goal through that channel?
Except I didn't. Not everyone likes Discord, and we may very well be leaving stone unturned by ignoring IRC. There's a time and a place for poopposting, but this thread isn't it, so spare us the crap.
You can still use the IRC channel if you wish (although it's 99.9% dead now). It's #flatline on Chatspike. Discord isn't the best thing ever, but it's convenient and free, and a lot of the IRC-goers were fine migrating to it. Saves us from setting up bouncers and whatnot to keep access on multiple devices hassle-free.


I apologize for being a dick.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 10, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 05:47:41 PMWhen memes are trending, people search for it. If we're talking about it enough, our results eventually show on Google.
I see where you're coming from, but we should be careful with that. Really, the best memes come from within the community.

Quote from: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 05:47:41 PMI'd say gamers in general.
But it could easily be a gaming channel, like Let's Plays. Maybe a discussion/podcast.
We should look into what the Vinesauce people are doing. They have a forum and a Youtube channel, but it seems they only mention their forums in passing during streams.

Quote from: JrDude on October 09, 2018, 05:47:41 PMMaking Silver a Meme could be cool. How he always breaks things.
Sometimes we need to try a bunch of things, see what sticks, and stick to it.
At the end of videos, link or at least mention the forum, NSFCD.
I used to make gaming videos, though not for too long of a period of time, but if we did that, I could help.
We definitely need to spread the word if our main goal is to get new people, but we should think carefully about the things we try. Don't want to make us look too stupid (too soon).

Quote from: Super on October 10, 2018, 02:43:15 PMYou can still use the IRC channel if you wish (although it's 99.9% dead now). It's #flatline on Chatspike. Discord isn't the best thing ever, but it's convenient and free, and a lot of the IRC-goers were fine migrating to it. Saves us from setting up bouncers and whatnot to keep access on multiple devices hassle-free.
Works for me.
Title: Re: This place needs a makeover.
Post by: Max Headroom on October 28, 2018, 06:10:22 AM
I found two NSFCD e-mails in my spam folder =/