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Generally Speaking => Artistic Discussion => Topic started by: Neerb on October 25, 2010, 08:53:56 PM

Title: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on October 25, 2010, 08:53:56 PM
I've been watching it a lot lately, and it's basically the best cartoon that exists at the moment. DISCUSS.

Every single aspect of the show, even the songs (after you get used to them), is amazing in my opinion, but I particularly love the humor through continuity. This show basically exists for the purpose of reusing a formula (ala Scooby-Doo), but it does it very well and, ironically, unexpectedly. Running gags are so good and so used in this show that you really can't even appreciate it until you've already seen a couple episodes, at which point the humor is done not in what happens, but how it happens.

It's also very 90s in that it's appeals to older audiences, yet it isn't afraid to be a CARTOON; it's completely over the top and doesn't care.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 26, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
I enjoy it. A lot of the humor goes way over kid's heads, but will make older viewers smile.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on October 26, 2010, 08:25:49 PM
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Silverhawk79 on October 26, 2010, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: Neerb on October 26, 2010, 08:25:49 PM

Love it.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: RX-78-2 on October 27, 2010, 09:56:50 PM
This show is great--what more can be said? Well, I guess I can comment on how the humor is good for everyone and the parodies, songs, and voice actors are great.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Lotos on July 08, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
I love Phineas and Ferb.  Disney better not intercourse  this show up.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 08, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
If anything, Disney XD should change its name to Phineas & Ferb XD. I think nobody else watches the other shows that much.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 08, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 08, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
If anything, Disney XD should change its name to Phineas & Ferb XD. I think nobody else watches the other shows that much.
They have other shows?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Lotos on July 08, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 08, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
They have other shows?

I thought they were just commercials with laugh tracks.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 08, 2011, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: Lotos on July 08, 2011, 04:33:25 PM
I thought they were just commercials with laugh tracks.
Commercials are more interesting.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on July 10, 2011, 12:14:08 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 08, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
They have other shows?

Well, they do have The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes...

Anyway, who wants a feature-length TV movie?

Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 10, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
Disney's only good shows are P&F and The Avengers. Everything else is a poor try to make people laugh.

Oh, and also, I want to see that movie. After all, all the episodes pretty much back it up very well.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 11, 2011, 06:52:27 PM
Disney Channel has gotten even stupider the last few years. But that's all TV. I'm afraid to see what it will come to in 30 years. If cartoons even still exist. :(
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 11, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 11, 2011, 06:52:27 PM
Disney Channel has gotten even stupider the last few years. But that's all TV. I'm afraid to see what it will come to in 30 years. If cartoons even still exist. :(
And Nickelodeon. And Cartoon Network. And Jetix.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 11, 2011, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 11, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
And Nickelodeon. And Cartoon Network. And Jetix.
Yeah basically. CN, Nick, and Disney were better just a few years ago even than they are now. It's sickening.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on July 11, 2011, 11:02:04 PM
Cartoon Network is coming back, at least. They're definitely better than they were a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
Quote from: Neerb on July 11, 2011, 11:02:04 PM
Cartoon Network is coming back, at least. They're definitely better than they were a couple years ago.
I'll say they came back once they get rid of Hole in the Wall, Adventure Time, Problem Solverz, and any show that looks so out of place and surreal.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 12, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
I'll say they came back once they get rid of Hole in the Wall, Adventure Time, Problem Solverz, and any show that looks so out of place and surreal.

Now, see, you're getting too specific; I'm not saying they have the same kind of shows they used to have, I'm saying they're getting better in quality, and Adventure Time is definitely a hilarious show.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
I thought Adventure Time was a SpongeBob rip-off due to its heavily dream themed setting with a fanboy and his creepy dog.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 12, 2011, 11:03:52 AM
I thought Adventure Time was a SpongeBob rip-off due to its heavily dream themed setting with a fanboy and his creepy dog.

What? How the heck is that ripping off of Spongebob? Have you even watched the two shows?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:58:59 AM
What? How the heck is that ripping off of Spongebob? Have you even watched the two shows?
Yes. SpongeBob obviously became annoying after the movie.

Adventure Time's art style put me off, and I dislike the main character for acting like an ascended hero fan boy. Oh, and his dog-mentor thing is as grotesque as the landscape they live in.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 05:57:27 PM
Chris has never watched Spongebob.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 05:57:27 PM
Chris has never watched Spongebob.
I watched a lot of it in Mexico.

But that was right before the movie era spawned the suckish seasons where his intelligence slowly decays with each passing episode.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 12, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
I watched a lot of it in Mexico.

But that was right before the movie era spawned the suckish seasons where his intelligence slowly decays with each passing episode.
If you watched a Spanish dub, I'm sure it wasn't as good.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
If you watched a Spanish dub, I'm sure it wasn't as good.
Trust me. The Spanish dub made characters more tolerable. Squidward doesn't talk like an idiot when you compare his English voice with the Mexican voice, and SpongeBob sounds less (ambiguous) gayish.

And the characters don't have Mexican accents. It's just that there are two kinds of Spanish for those who don't know.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 12, 2011, 07:03:52 PM
Trust me. The Spanish dub made characters more tolerable. Squidward doesn't talk like an idiot when you compare his English voice with the Mexican voice, and SpongeBob sounds less (ambiguous) gayish.

And the characters don't have Mexican accents. It's just that there are two kinds of Spanish for those who don't know.
But dubs never exist without ruining things. Especially because certain things can't be translated exactly while keeping the same effect.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 07:36:05 PM
Luckily, Mexico is full of very similar stuff its American counterpart has so there's no problem with dubs.

Did I also mention we don't censor the good stuff the U.S.A. missed out? We grew up with the bloody DBZ.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 12, 2011, 07:36:05 PM
Luckily, Mexico is full of very similar stuff its American counterpart has so there's no problem with dubs.

Did I also mention we don't censor the good stuff the U.S.A. missed out? We grew up with the bloody DBZ.
One thing I might mention is jokes based on the English language, which make no sense when translated.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 12, 2011, 08:46:18 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
One thing I might mention is jokes based on the English language, which make no sense when translated.
That's why I said Mexico has that part perfectly covered.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: BOREDFOREVER on July 12, 2011, 10:08:37 PM
You know why I like Phineas and Ferb among the crap I have to watch with the kids?  They don't constantly put the title characters in crappy situations.  They, more often than not, simply succeed in whatever it is their doing.  Yeah, conflict creates drama.  But the episodes seem to get by with a lot of comedy without a lot of the "o poop" scenarios of sitcoms.  Sure, Candice constantly fails, and Perry gets into some trouble, but it's generally a happy show without being patronizing or infantile.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: RX-78-2 on July 13, 2011, 12:25:58 AM
That's actually a really good point. I never thought of that.

On a side note, those who like old Cartoon Network should be taking advantage of the free hardly-interrupted full episodes and many clips on http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/ (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/). I've been watching full episodes of the good stuff, e.g. Dexter's Laboratory, The Justice Friends, and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. And oftentimes with nary an ad.

Geez, I sound like I'm advertising for the place.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on July 13, 2011, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: BOREDFANBOY on July 12, 2011, 10:08:37 PM
You know why I like Phineas and Ferb among the crap I have to watch with the kids?  They don't constantly put the title characters in crappy situations.  They, more often than not, simply succeed in whatever it is their doing.  Yeah, conflict creates drama.  But the episodes seem to get by with a lot of comedy without a lot of the "o poop" scenarios of sitcoms.  Sure, Candice constantly fails, and Perry gets into some trouble, but it's generally a happy show without being patronizing or infantile.
That's actually a pretty good point. Furthermore, it's one of the few present-day cartoons I'd be comfortable with my kids watching (if I had any) without fear of exposing them to pure idiotic poop.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: NiMa74 on August 02, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
Well, the movie's out Friday (and already out for those who have the premium On Demand channel, but I doubt any of you have that). Any of you plan on watching it?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: NiMa74 on August 02, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
Well, the movie's out Friday (and already out for those who have the premium On Demand channel, but I doubt any of you have that). Any of you plan on watching it?
movie?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on August 02, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
Quote from: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
movie?

Full length movie this friday at 8:00 pm EST and rerunning the next couple days; Phineas and Ferb discover Perry's spy status and travel to an alternate dimension in which Doofenschmirtz succeeded in taking over the world.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:21:24 PM
Quote from: Neerb on August 02, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
Full length movie this friday at 8:00 pm EST and rerunning the next couple days; Phineas and Ferb discover Perry's spy status and travel to an alternate dimension in which Doofenschmirtz succeeded in taking over the world.
is it just like a one-hour special?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: NiMa74 on August 02, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:21:24 PM
is it just like a one-hour special?

no, DC Original Movie. Hour and a half long.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:31:04 PM
Quote from: NiMa74 on August 02, 2011, 08:29:12 PM
no, DC Original Movie. Hour and a half long.
>DC original movie.

This can't be good.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on August 02, 2011, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:31:04 PM
>DC original movie.

This can't be good.
Take into account the series is very good. The movie isn't a stupid real action one.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Light on August 02, 2011, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 08:31:04 PM
>DC original movie.

This can't be good.
>implying the KP movies weren't good.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 02, 2011, 10:32:30 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on August 02, 2011, 09:54:32 PM
Take into account the series is very good. The movie isn't a stupid real action one.
Right. Voice acting > DC acting.

I feel a bit better now, but I probably still won't watch it.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on August 06, 2011, 04:36:42 PM
All I got to say is that the movie was very nicely done. It almost make you chuckle every half minute.

Except it was strange that [spoiler]Vanessa (original and paralel) and Stacy (paralel) weren't shown at all. It could've had a good plot.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on August 06, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on August 06, 2011, 04:36:42 PM
All I got to say is that the movie was very nicely done. It almost make you chuckle every half minute.

Except it was strange that [spoiler]Vanessa (original and paralel) and Stacy (paralel) weren't shown at all. It could've had a good plot.[/spoiler]

I agree with that spoilered point (which should actually be in a spoiler box, not just colored black). I also think the songs in this film weren't as memorable as they could have been; the extra long Summer episode was better song-wise. A third complaint, which I know is hopeless, is that despite the fact that this is Phineas and Ferb, a show that is only as good as it is because of how well it keeps status quo, I was still really hoping this movie would have some kind of lasting effect on the series. I really hope we get a second movie just as epic when the series ends, because this show getting actual closure would be crazy.

However, it was a freaking awesome movie; had me constantly laughing, good plot, cool action, and TONS of references to both past episodes and various other forms of media (the best movie reference I won't even spoil due to the sheer hilarity of it). Any fan of the show should see this thing.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 06, 2011, 06:41:35 PM
Whoops I saw the spoiler because I'm using a light skin so it was entirely visible now I can't watch the movie.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on August 06, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
Quote from: Kayo on August 06, 2011, 06:41:35 PM
Whoops I saw the spoiler because I'm using a light skin so it was entirely visible now I can't watch the movie.
We know you're into her now.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on August 06, 2011, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on August 06, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
We know you're into her now.

Not specifically...
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on August 06, 2011, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: Neerb on August 06, 2011, 08:02:03 PM
Not specifically...
Well, just because something isn't there doesn't mean the movie is ruined. He's acting like it ruined it.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on August 06, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on August 06, 2011, 08:24:23 PM
Well, just because something isn't there doesn't mean the movie is ruined. He's acting like it ruined it.

I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm regarding your improper spoiler and my bothering to point it out...
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Kayo on August 07, 2011, 01:33:58 AM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on August 06, 2011, 06:47:12 PM
We know you're into her now.
who?
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Light on August 07, 2011, 05:50:27 AM
Quote from: Neerb on August 06, 2011, 05:01:31 PM
I also think the songs in this film weren't as memorable as they could have been; the extra long Summer episode was better song-wise.
>not memorable songs
>"It's summer, every single moment is worth its weight in gold. Summer is like the very best story that's just waiting to be told~"
>implying that didn't get stuck in your head
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: Neerb on August 07, 2011, 05:51:53 AM
Quote from: Light on August 07, 2011, 05:50:27 AM
>not memorable songs
>"It's summer, every single moment is worth its weight in gold. Summer is like the very best story that's just waiting to be told~"
>implying that didn't get stuck in your head

Meh. The series has had plenty of better ones.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: NiMa74 on August 07, 2011, 12:19:25 PM
Summer got stuck in my head the most out of all of them in the movie. Doesn't help that it keeps blaring in my head every time I go into work...

The movie was amazing as well. I'd give it either a 9 or 9.5 out of 10. Not only was the plot done pretty well, but it was emotionally gripping as hell. The ending with Perry (and the rest of the resolution to the whole "HE'S A SECRET AGENT?!" shebang) was probably the most heartwarming scene I've seen in a cartoon in a really long time. I only have one question, though...

Even if all of Alternate Doof's stuff poofed away, shouldn't Phineas and Ferb's stuff be scattered all over the tri-state area? Just as well, won't they find out about everything that happened the very next day either in the news or from Stacy/Irving/Albert/Love Handel/anyone else who witnessed the event that knows them? I feel like no one would just stop talking about it right after everything is said and done.
Title: Re: Phineas and Ferb
Post by: DededeCloneChris on August 07, 2011, 01:46:43 PM
[spoiler]Wouldn't be crazy to think everyone got hit by the amnesiator that nobody actually remembers (except Perry and the camera).[/spoiler]