What's YOUR Genre! Volume 1 -- RPGs

[Tupin]

I HATE turn based RPGs. >:(

Real time FTW!

Hey, who are you doing for "Mystery behind THAT user" next? ::)

[Kita]

I HATE turn based RPGs. >:(

Real time FTW!

Hey, who are you doing for "Mystery behind THAT user" next? ::)

LOL That you'll find out when the next one is posted ;)

[Tupin]

I HATE turn based RPGs. >:(

Real time FTW!

Hey, who are you doing for "Mystery behind THAT user" next? ::)

LOL That you'll find out when the next one is posted ;)

You know what I want?

An F-Zero RPG. I heard they are actually making one.

Along with an Animal Crossing MMO.

[Kaz]

RPG stands for "Role-Playing Game," not "Roll Play Game."  :robotindifferent:

Also, an interesting thing to note is that for some reason, the genre doesn't actually mean what you'd think it does by looking at its name anymore. Most people no longer consider Legend of Zelda games to be RPGs even though you clearly play the role of a predetermined hero rescuing some land or damsel in every single god darn game. Better yet, what about Mario platformers? Gee, I think maybe you might take on the role of Mario.

Not sure what happened that made it so only turn-based, strategy, live-action, etc. RPGs are considered real RPGs these days. I don't mind the weird genre rules, but it's certainly something to think about.

My favorite RPGs of all time include Earthbound, FF6, FFTA, and ToS.

[Kita]

RPG stands for "Role-Playing Game," not "Roll Play Game."  :robotindifferent:

Also, an interesting thing to note is that for some reason, the genre doesn't actually mean what you'd think it does by looking at its name anymore. Most people no longer consider Legend of Zelda games to be RPGs even though you clearly play the role of a predetermined hero rescuing some land or damsel in every single god dang game. Better yet, what about Mario platformers? Gee, I think maybe you might take on the role of Mario.

Not sure what happened that made it so only turn-based, strategy, live-action, etc. RPGs are considered real RPGs these days. I don't mind the weird genre rules, but it's certainly something to think about.

My favorite RPGs of all time include Earthbound, FF6, FFTA, and ToS.

Yeah my spelling has always sucked XD

But Zelda games you don't level up.  You don't get more powerful only gain more hearts.  That's an Adventure game.

Mario platformers are just that platformers.  Again you do not level up and in these games you don't get new weapons and such.

Zelda games have never been RPGs either.  Every game you play the role of the character, but that doesn't make all games RPGs.

[Kaz]

RPG stands for "Role-Playing Game," not "Roll Play Game."  :robotindifferent:

Also, an interesting thing to note is that for some reason, the genre doesn't actually mean what you'd think it does by looking at its name anymore. Most people no longer consider Legend of Zelda games to be RPGs even though you clearly play the role of a predetermined hero rescuing some land or damsel in every single god dang game. Better yet, what about Mario platformers? Gee, I think maybe you might take on the role of Mario.

Not sure what happened that made it so only turn-based, strategy, live-action, etc. RPGs are considered real RPGs these days. I don't mind the weird genre rules, but it's certainly something to think about.

My favorite RPGs of all time include Earthbound, FF6, FFTA, and ToS.

Yeah my spelling has always sucked XD

But Zelda games you don't level up.  You don't get more powerful only gain more hearts.  That's an Adventure game.

Mario platformers are just that platformers.  Again you do not level up and in these games you don't get new weapons and such.

Zelda games have never been RPGs either.  Every game you play the role of the character, but that doesn't make all games RPGs.

Final Fantasy didn't define the genre outright, you know. What I mean is that the general understanding of the term "role-playing game" has changed completely so that it has to include things like leveling up and character development. I don't really know why or when that happened.

I'm not saying I would actually call those games RPGs. I'm just saying that a lot of people used to.

[Kita]

Final Fantasy didn't define the genre outright, you know. What I mean is that the general understanding of the term "role-playing game" has changed completely so that it has to include things like leveling up and character development. I don't really know why or when that happened.

I'm not saying I would actually call those games RPGs. I'm just saying that a lot of people used to.

No one is saying that FF games defined the genre though.  There were RPGs before FF games.  Pokemon has always been RPG. 

I do know that people did call those games RPG well at least Zelda games but that doesn't mean they ever were.  I'm not sure when the genre was "officially" defined, but I'm sure with a little searching we could find out. :P

[Kat95]

Ahh this is really well done,good job.

[Helios]

Meh, I don't really care much for jRPGs. Most of them are about far too emotional teenagers trying to kill the evil wizard or whatever.

I'm more into cRPGs, role playing games that actually have the one thing jRPGs don't have: role playing.

Take Fallout for example. That game is the perfect example of what RPGs are meant to be like. The combat is turn-based, but it's not the mind numbingly simple robotic turn-based seen in jRPGs. Fallout's combat actually requires tactics in order to win. Shoot your enemy in different body parts to cause disadvantages, position yourself behind cover to avoid enemy fire, boost yourself up with various stimulants, etc.

Then there's Fallout's role playing. It is, quite simply, the best ever experienced.

*Want to play as mentally retarded person? Just create a character with a very low Intelligence stat and he'll be so dumb, most characters in the game won't even be able to communicate with him well.

*Want to complete the game without killing a single enemy? Simply create a character with high diplomacy skills, and talk your way out of those deadly encounters. Hell, you can even convince the main antagonist to commit suicide if your skill is high enough by revealing to him the major faults of his plan.

*Want to kill that mob boss for some serious cash? There's multiple ways to do it. Go Rambo style, and just shoot up his bar. Or you could sneak in, and replace his oxygen tank with one filled with poison gas. Or you could give a pistol to his five year old son, and convince him to shoot his own father. Or you can bribe his right-hand man to light a stick of dynamite inside of his room while he is asleep. Wow, that many solutions for one single quest? Pretty much every quest in the game has multiple solutions.

*Want to be a sadistic child killer that robs graves? You can do it. Want to be an abolitionist and become a rich porn star at the same time? You can do it. Starting to hate your party members? Sell them into slavery, or just blow them apart with a shotgun.

*Drugs in this game can give you a serious boost in stats. However, take too many and you'll become addicted. If you don't get your needed fix every once and a while, you'll experience some serious drug withdrawal consequences.

I could go on and on about the large amount of different ways to go about playing this game, but there's a few other things left to describe. A lot of RPGs have stats simply just for combat purposes. Not Fallout. Stats in this game also affect your dialogue skills, how intelligent your character is, how experienced with machines and environment skills and guns and etc. he is, and so on.

Oh, and did I mention how simply awesome this game's turn-based combat is? Say, for example, you create a character with a Luck of 10 (max), and you give him the Jinxed ability. This pretty much causes you to be literally untouchable, but your enemies will literally kill themselves. The Jinxed trait affects both allies and enemies; your combat skills suck but so do theirs. However, since your Luck is maxed out, you'll lose the disadvantages of Jinxed, but you'll keep the advantages. Enemies will be critically missing and will end up shooting themselves in the foot, missing you terribly and accidentally shoot their ally in the groin, mistake a passing pedestrian for you, etc.

Any game that is like this (which is a good amount of PC RPGs) is the only type of RPG I will play. Ain't nothin' else'll do.