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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 10:57:38 AM

Title: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 10:57:38 AM
Is this how you feel at this point?

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/Mr-McShahoozlefitz/NintenE308.jpg)

I kind of feel like this, I would feel like it even more if I didn't like Animal Crossing or Wii Sports.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:58:35 AM
No, i dont feel like that, because i know that we will be pleased sooner or later.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
I disagree. I'm quite pleased. But as I said, I wasn;t expecting anything big this year. I was mostly watching to see if there was anything I'd be interested in announced. Unlike a few others, I was clentching the arm rests of the chair drooling with fury waiting for a new Zelda or Metriod or Mario game announced. As far as I'm concerned, I'm pleased with the conference.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Only stupid people feel that way. Nintendo didn't screw us over. They just didn't have an exciting showing. They annouced some good stuff, but didn't make it exciting.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Only stupid people feel that way. Nintendo didn't screw us over. They just didn't have an exciting showing. They annouced some good stuff, but didn't make it exciting.
Yeah, that female presenter was rather annoying.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:32:38 AM
Gamree hates the way Reggie sounds. His voice makes Gamree's ears bleed.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Custom on July 15, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
After that conference, I feel exactly like that.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 12:43:07 PM
Yeah... pretty much.

At least we have Animal Crossing :)
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 12:48:17 PM
I still feel that Nintendo is going in a direction that will make gamers hate them, Reggie calling AC hardcore is one of those things. However, I wasn't really disappointed, we got new game info, which is what E3 was about, too bad the presenter had to go pick her kids up from soccer practice...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cecil_and_Kain on July 15, 2008, 12:52:20 PM
The only thing making me keep my Wii are my gamecube games and the virtual console.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
Man people who say they are gonna sell their Wii are a bit too sensitive if you ask me. Obviously they didn't show everything at E3, so just be patient, please
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
Not at all.

I'm not a fan of 2 of the biggest Nintendo franchises (Metroid, Zelda), and I don't play a lot of RPG/action/deep story games.

I'm quite happy with what was shown today.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 12:55:58 PM
I thought Mario and Pokemon were the biggest franchises.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:57:22 PM
I thought it was Mario and Zelda :-\
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 12:59:51 PM
Heh, I just woke up from a nap.

Let me reword that:

Quote from: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
Not at all.

I'm not a fan of 2 of the biggest Nintendo franchises (Metroid, Zelda), and I don't play a lot of RPG/action/deep story games.

I'm quite happy with what was shown today.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 01:01:23 PM
But ya, now that I am not a nitpicker, I was never a big fan of either franchise. The Primes brought me back into Metroid a bit, and Zelda's never been my forte, so I see your point.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 01:01:23 PM
But ya, now that I am not a nitpicker, I was never a big fan of either franchise. The Primes brought me back into Metroid a bit, and Zelda's never been my forte, so I see your point.

I liked MPH fine, but mainly for the online. The whole concept behind Metorid has never really appealed to me.

And Zelda bores me to death, so. :x
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 01:01:23 PM
But ya, now that I am not a nitpicker, I was never a big fan of either franchise. The Primes brought me back into Metroid a bit, and Zelda's never been my forte, so I see your point.

I liked MPH fine, but mainly for the online. The whole concept behind Metorid has never really appealed to me.

And Zelda bores me to death, so. :x
So you like Mario/Kirby or another franchise the most? :)

I actually think Metroid is more boring than Zelda, but i still like it
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
So you like Mario/Kirby or another franchise the most? :)

I actually think Metroid is more boring than Zelda, but i still like it

I was raised on Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt for NES, so yes, I love the Mario series.
I really enjoy Kirby quite a bit. 2D platformers = <3.
If you consider Pokemon a major franchise, I love those. Seriously, I ran out my Gold and Silver internal batteries within a year. :X
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on July 15, 2008, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
So you like Mario/Kirby or another franchise the most? :)

I actually think Metroid is more boring than Zelda, but i still like it

I was raised on Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt for NES, so yes, I love the Mario series.
I really enjoy Kirby quite a bit. 2D platformers = <3.
If you consider Pokemon a major franchise, I love those. Seriously, I ran out my Gold and Silver internal batteries within a year. :X
those are my favorites too! <3

I remember Pokemon was the biggest phenomenon in all of Colorado Springs when i lived there. Knowing how to beat the game and get everything was considered a tool of the trade. I was one of those people 8)

It all stopped once D/P came out cuz nobody had a DS
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
we loved those darn pokemon cards we used to trade those suckersbut then i got tired of them and soled them for like 30 bucks to a fat kid
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
Quote from: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
we loved those darn pokemon cards we used to trade those suckersbut then i got tired of them and soled them for like 30 bucks to a fat kid
so did me and kenan! :D
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
Quote from: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
we loved those darn pokemon cards we used to trade those suckersbut then i got tired of them and soled them for like 30 bucks to a fat kid
so did me and kenan! :D
its cause we are the chosen ones, now that you look back at those pokemo cards they are so dumb
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:23:29 PM
Quote from: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 01:19:50 PM
Quote from: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
we loved those darn pokemon cards we used to trade those suckersbut then i got tired of them and soled them for like 30 bucks to a fat kid
so did me and kenan! :D
its cause we are the chosen ones, now that you look back at those pokemo cards they are so dumb
Yeah, but I kept holographic Poliwrath and Wailord EX because they were my favorites
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
wow that is pretty sad lol
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
I never bothered to sell mine. They are still downstairs chilling in their containers in the backpack in the closet in my room in my basement in my house. I was actually jsut hounding BK for their kids toys because they had a Lucario card they were giving away. What can I say? I think Lucario is my favorite pokemon right now.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Doodle on July 15, 2008, 01:54:54 PM
I still have mine. They're in a little container somewhere. They used to be in a little trapper, but I took them out to put in my baseball cards. :P

Anyway, I don't feel like that. Wii Sports, Animal Crossing Wii, an awkward microphone/speaker thing. :P
I figured they would have a new Zelda or something.
Does Nintendo still get to show new stuff, or is it over for them? I'm not much of an E3 person...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 01:57:40 PM
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on July 15, 2008, 01:54:54 PM
I still have mine. They're in a little container somewhere. They used to be in a little trapper, but I took them out to put in my baseball cards. :P

Anyway, I don't feel like that. Wii Sports, Animal Crossing Wii, an awkward microphone/speaker thing. :P
I figured they would have a new Zelda or something.
Does Nintendo still get to show new stuff, or is it over for them? I'm not much of an E3 person...
It's over for them, but they usually have a media summit in September.

More recently, they have been saving their big announcements for that.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: SkyMyl on July 15, 2008, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
Only stupid people feel that way. Nintendo didn't screw us over. They just didn't have an exciting showing. They annouced some good stuff, but didn't make it exciting.
So true.

Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
More like they ripped peoples balls off and stomped on them.
I wasn't pleased with ANY of the announced games, as AC is hardly a favorite of mine.

WiiSpeak has potential, but really unless its made more versatile than it seems to me ill take a pass.

DS is still my one stop shopping for Nintendo Goodness.
Fire Emblem and numerous other titles are whats keeping my Nintendo fanboyism alive...
Thank god for Brawl. >_<
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
That's what High Voltage wants the publisher to be.

Once again, the media summit is where they announce their big games.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Again, it's at least another "throw me a bone" moment.
If they've got those...whey didn't they show it?  :robotangry:
Hell, they didn't even have to show gameplay! Just show me a screen or two of those games and I'd be happy, but they don't even mention it...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
More like they ripped peoples balls off and stomped on them.
I wasn't pleased with ANY of the announced games, as AC is hardly a favorite of mine.

WiiSpeak has potential, but really unless its made more versatile than it seems to me ill take a pass.

DS is still my one stop shopping for Nintendo Goodness.
Fire Emblem and numerous other titles are whats keeping my Nintendo fanboyism alive...
Thank god for Brawl. >_<
thank god someone finally agrees with me.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
More like they ripped peoples balls off and stomped on them.
I wasn't pleased with ANY of the announced games, as AC is hardly a favorite of mine.

WiiSpeak has potential, but really unless its made more versatile than it seems to me ill take a pass.

DS is still my one stop shopping for Nintendo Goodness.
Fire Emblem and numerous other titles are whats keeping my Nintendo fanboyism alive...
Thank god for Brawl. >_<
thank god someone finally agrees with me.
Last E3 was at least entertaining...
If they show a FZ or a new FE, or hell some kind of original game I would be satisfied.

I'm glad I got my 360 when I did.
Tales of Vesperia
GH 4 and Rockband 2 (Probably the former)
Hell maybe even a new Madden

I'll at least have something to play...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Again, it's at least another "throw me a bone" moment.
If they've got those...whey didn't they show it?  :robotangry:
Hell, they didn't even have to show gameplay! Just show me a screen or two of those games and I'd be happy, but they don't even mention it...
Well, they have to save stuff for TGS, Leipzig, E for All, and their own media summit.

There's four more major conventions during the rest of the year. Which makes more sense? To announce everything at a show that probably won't even be there next year, or to spread them out over the course of several months?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Again, it's at least another "throw me a bone" moment.
If they've got those...whey didn't they show it?  :robotangry:
Hell, they didn't even have to show gameplay! Just show me a screen or two of those games and I'd be happy, but they don't even mention it...
Well, they have to save stuff for TGS, Leipzig, E for All, and their own media summit.

There's four more major conventions during the rest of the year. Which makes more sense? To announce everything at a show that probably won't even be there next year, or to spread them out over the course of several months?
Um...you do realize E3 is still the biggest conference in gaming right? E for All and Leipzig are practically nothing compared to it, and probably little will be revealed at TGS. E3 has always been the big news event.

HtA, I agree...at least I have Resistance 2 and LittleBig Planet to keep me well entertained...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Again, it's at least another "throw me a bone" moment.
If they've got those...whey didn't they show it?  :robotangry:
Hell, they didn't even have to show gameplay! Just show me a screen or two of those games and I'd be happy, but they don't even mention it...
Well, they have to save stuff for TGS, Leipzig, E for All, and their own media summit.

There's four more major conventions during the rest of the year. Which makes more sense? To announce everything at a show that probably won't even be there next year, or to spread them out over the course of several months?
That's the way I see it. E3 got the casual stuff out of the way. Nintendo has nothing left to show us BUT the big games. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid probably won't be showing up. But Pokemon, Star Fox, and F-Zero are likely (Pokemon Platinum better be).

And the rest of E3 can still bring us something from 3rd parties.

E3 isn't special anymore. After last year, I think people stopped caring. Nintendo's media summits are what we have to look forward to now. And TGS.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:35:37 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:10:26 PM
I feel exactly that way. The completely abandoned the hardcore players...
When your biggest game is Animal Crossing then SOMETHING is wrong.
Where is ANYTHING even REMOTLY hardcore? Call of Duty and GTA were pretty much it.
At least throw us a BONE NIntendo? I mean seriously at least TRY! This was rather pathetic, I have NOTHING to look forward to on my Wii...
You do realize that E3 doesn't mean they have to show everything right? There's more coming. Nintendo's got Disaster, probably SF and FZ, and I'm willing to bet they'll publish Conduit.
Again, it's at least another "throw me a bone" moment.
If they've got those...whey didn't they show it?  :robotangry:
Hell, they didn't even have to show gameplay! Just show me a screen or two of those games and I'd be happy, but they don't even mention it...
Well, they have to save stuff for TGS, Leipzig, E for All, and their own media summit.

There's four more major conventions during the rest of the year. Which makes more sense? To announce everything at a show that probably won't even be there next year, or to spread them out over the course of several months?
That's the way I see it. E3 got the casual stuff out of the way. Nintendo has nothing left to show us BUT the big games. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid probably won't be showing up. But Pokemon, Star Fox, and F-Zero are likely (Pokemon Platinum better be).

And the rest of E3 can still bring us something from 3rd parties.

E3 isn't special anymore. After last year, I think people stopped caring. Nintendo's media summits are what we have to look forward to now. And TGS.
Because heaven forbid Nintendo do things like other people because it works. Again, if they're there, WHY NOT SHOW THEM!? I mean it makes no sense! I can understand something held back but frankly they showed nothing again.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 03:51:59 PM
Nintendo doesn't like to act like other companies. That's why they are on top.

E3 isn't going to be the largest gaming event anymore. Tokyo Games Show and Leipzig are much bigger events for all three of the big companies because E3 is barely anything anymore. I would honestly be surprised if there is an E3 2009. They said the fluff and extravagance got in the way of presenting, but  when in reality it's what kept the convention alive for eleven years.

E3 2008 was one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of the big three. There's more in places like the Tokyo Games Show and Leipzig and E for All then any other convention. Especially for Nintendo.

tl;dr, Nintendo got the "meh" stuff out of the way today. The rest of the year should be good for Nintendo.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:51:59 PM
Nintendo doesn't like to act like other companies. That's why they are on top.

E3 isn't going to be the largest gaming event anymore. Tokyo Games Show and Leipzig are much bigger events for all three of the big companies because E3 is barely anything anymore. I would honestly be surprised if there is an E3 2009. They said the fluff and extravagance got in the way of presenting, but  when in reality it's what kept the convention alive for eleven years.

E3 2008 was one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of the big three. There's more in places like the Tokyo Games Show and Leipzig and E for All then any other convention. Especially for Nintendo.

tl;dr, Nintendo got the "meh" stuff out of the way today. The rest of the year should be good for Nintendo.
Leipzig is small as crap...it's just noticeable becaues it's the biggest European one...little, if anything, gets announced there.
Nintendo hates TGS and rarely announce anything big. I think the last time they did there was the Wiimote in 2005

They're probably waiting for their own event, and even then it'll be more of hte same with MAYBE one game I'd like announced. Nintendo hates people like me, actual hardcore gamer, ya know.

Put them on top? It's completely alienating them from the gaming community. Microsoft and Sony couldn't care less what Nintendo is doing based on the demographic make up. I hate how they said this isn't a "fad"...it's a complete fad...and they need to stop kidding themselves about this. It has a lot of similarities to the old Atari age before the crash IMO.... X_X;;;
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Daft Pink on July 15, 2008, 04:00:33 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:32:38 AM
Gamree hates the way Reggie sounds. His voice makes Gamree's ears bleed.
I just find it funny how he says everything so seriously.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 04:01:33 PM
Alienating? By doing what? Serving both hardcore and casual? By giving us downloadable games? Giving us some form of online?

They aren't alienating themselves or anyone. Unless your someone who expects Mario on Monday, Zelda on Tuesday, and the more Metroid games by friday.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 04:05:01 PM
Ya, differentiating yourself is bad. That's why they have the number one console and portable, both of which are twins to the others. Foolish me.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 04:07:16 PM
It's not a fad. The Wii has sold more than any other system in 19 months.

Yeah, I just realized that Nintendo doesn't like TGS.

If the hardcore gamer got exactly everything they wanted, all there would be were FPSs and rehashes. If there's one thing you can say about Nintendo, it's that they are good at shaking up the industry.

Still, they should be more respectful to the people that kept them alive no matter their faults for seven long years of getting owned week after week after week in sales with the GCN.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:08:23 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 04:01:33 PM
Alienating? By doing what? Serving both hardcore and casual? By giving us downloadable games? Giving us some form of online?

They aren't alienating themselves or anyone. Unless your someone who expects Mario on Monday, Zelda on Tuesday, and the more Metroid games by friday.
Alienating: Not letting developers do what they want (they rarely give Mii support to anyone), terrible online (three years to get voice chat when that was standard on the PS2 and Xbox...really?), and I can count the number of true hardcore games on my two hands:
Galaxy, Zelda, Metroid, Brawl, No More Heroes, MoH (CoD STILL better), MKWii (only because of Cube support), and Okami...
Theyre too busy trying to get little kids, grandma, and middle aged women to play to care about us.
360 and PS3 had downloadable games since their launch. Yes, VC is awesome, but that's pretty much it.
Why should I be grateful to even have online? The Xbox1 still has better online than Nintendo does...and for a company gunning for #1 I expect more.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:05:01 PM
Ya, differentiating yourself is bad. That's why they have the number one console and portable, both of which are twins to the others. Foolish me.
at the expense of the group that supported them when they were doing crap.
Again, I wouldn't be so mad if they at least pretended to care. "We're about EVERYONE!" - Reggie.
Is that why the biggest game announcements you had were a life sim and mini-game package?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
They aren't gunning for #1. They're already there.

Once again, there are actually games for everyone like Animal Crossing City Folk and Wii Sports Resort. Those can be played by anyone, hardcore or not.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 04:13:28 PM
Those sim and mini game packages are selling millions, and considering I love economics, that means a lot. Where else can you buy a house from a raccoon that used to be an fighter? Where else can you get a rhythm game that goes beyond guitars and drums?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:13:28 PM
Those sim and mini game packages are selling millions, and considering I love economics, that means a lot. Where else can you buy a house from a raccoon that used to be an fighter? Where else can you get a rhythm game that goes beyond guitars and drums?
It's sad they're selling millions (in regards to the mini-game stuff) because it takes away from actual games. Why spent time and money making a good, deep, hardcore game when you can shuffle together a mini-game "blech"-athon and sell millions? X_X;;
Besides guitars and drums? Samba de Amigo senior, es una videojuego con maracas.
I've never cared for life sims they seem like a chore.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 15, 2008, 04:20:57 PM
That change in the market reflects new gamers being introduced. Take Sega Superstars Tennis. It had appeal, a Wii Sports like interface, plus that familiar hedgehog. It brings gamers in. However, now they see new characters they haven't seen before, Samba, Zombies as a field, AiAi, etc. Now they go and research those characters, and they'll cause a demand for a new title with them in it. Sure, the next one will likely be a mini-game compilation, or something comparative in nature, but the process happens again. This process builds core gamers, which in turn stems demand for the characters in those compilations.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Wii Sports is not a 'blech-a-thon" it's a fun game that you play when you are bored or when you have friends over.

Deep, unique, hardcore games don't sell well. That's been proven time and time again. Remember Psychonauts? Okami? Beyond Good and Evil? Geist? Ico? Shadow of the Colossus?

Why should a company spend a year making a game that won't sell well when they can spend half of that time making a game that will sell millions that is good? Video game companies are corporations. They are about making money and giving people what they want.

If they want mini game collections, why deny them? Oh, and there's always the little fling they have that they release games that appeal to a specific audience.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:20:57 PM
That change in the market reflects new gamers being introduced. Take Sega Superstars Tennis. It had appeal, a Wii Sports like interface, plus that familiar hedgehog. It brings gamers in. However, now they see new characters they haven't seen before, Samba, Zombies as a field, AiAi, etc. Now they go and research those characters, and they'll cause a demand for a new title with them in it. Sure, the next one will likely be a mini-game compilation, or something comparative in nature, but the process happens again. This process builds core gamers, which in turn stems demand for the characters in those compilations.
You're missing their point altogether. They're not trying to build more core gamers, they're just trying to make more money from people who haven't given theirs to Nintendo yet. I doubt granny and the soccermom are going to get invested into games, or take it seriously. It's basically a money making idea because Nintendo knows they can't compete with Sony and Microsoft in terms of entertainment systems which they learned in the Cube crash. It's smart on their part, but horrible for Nintendo fans who are core gamers...I'm not strictly blaming Nintendo (third parties sure as hell aren't helping), but their not appealing to "everyone" like they say they are...


Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Wii Sports is not a 'blech-a-thon" it's a fun game that you play when you are bored or when you have friends over.

Deep, unique, hardcore games don't sell well. That's been proven time and time again. Remember Psychonauts? Okami? Beyond Good and Evil? Geist? Ico? Shadow of the Colossus?

Why should a company spend a year making a game that won't sell well when they can spend half of that time making a game that will sell millions that is good? Video game companies are corporations. They are about making money and giving people what they want.

If they want mini game collections, why deny them? Oh, and there's always the little fling they have that they release games that appeal to a specific audience.
Yes they do, CoD4, God of War, GTA, and MGS4 sold great. Oh, and Shadow sold very well mind you X_X;;

It is a blech-a-thon because I can't play it by myself and with friends... It's either one or the other with this company.
Give people what they want? America wants Mother 3, do we get it? We've wanted a new Kid Icarus for years, do we get it? Hell, I want an online compareable to the other systems, do I get it?

"If they wnat minigames, why deny them?" - This is why I hate casual gamers...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Gwen Khan on July 15, 2008, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Wii Sports is not a 'blech-a-thon" it's a fun game that you play when you are bored or when you have friends over.

Deep, unique, hardcore games don't sell well. That's been proven time and time again. Remember Psychonauts? Okami? Beyond Good and Evil? Geist? Ico? Shadow of the Colossus?

Why should a company spend a year making a game that won't sell well when they can spend half of that time making a game that will sell millions that is good? Video game companies are corporations. They are about making money and giving people what they want.

If they want mini game collections, why deny them? Oh, and there's always the little fling they have that they release games that appeal to a specific audience.

and that's not just Nintendo it's every corporation
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 04:37:47 PM
I believe there was another statistic saying that hardcore gamers barely buy games. Why make games for a market that doesn't buy?

They are doing the opposite of what they are saying. Very few games they have actually appeal to everyone. They are either super casual or super hardcore. Occasionally, we'll get a so called "bridge game" like Mario Kart Wii or Animal Crossing. Those are supposed to get people into gaming and onto franchises like Mario and Zelda. The problem is, they aren't. The casuals are either staying with the games they have now or playing for about a month and getting bored with it.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 04:41:02 PM
CoD and GTA are not deep and unique. GTA was unique 10 years ago, but not anymore. And wars games are so common, calling them unique is a laugh.

Deep and unique would be No More Heroes and Mad World. NMH didn't sell well in Japan, but well in NA. Mad World will probably have the same outcome. "Deep and unique" games are a risk, because they are different. Whereas Petz is not. You know what your getting, and it's simple and easy and straightforward. Plus kids love it. Money maker.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:37:47 PM
I believe there was another statistic saying that hardcore gamers barely buy games. Why make games for a market that doesn't buy?

They are doing the opposite of what they are saying. Very few games they have actually appeal to everyone. They are either super casual or super hardcore. Occasionally, we'll get a so called "bridge game" like Mario Kart Wii or Animal Crossing. Those are supposed to get people into gaming and onto franchises like Mario and Zelda. The problem is, they aren't. The casuals are either staying with the games they have now or playing for about a month and getting bored with it.
Do you know why they don't buy, becaue they're playing the really good games that last...like online ones with DLC *hinthintwinkwinknintendoGETONIT*
Um...have you listened to what they're saying the last few years? They're trying to reach everyone when really they're jsut reaching out to new people to make money. They're basically winning because casuals don't know any better *WiiPlay*. You mean they're doing planned obsolete-ness? When did Microsoft buy them? *lol windows joke*



Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 04:41:02 PM
CoD and GTA are not deep and unique. GTA was unique 10 years ago, but not anymore. And wars games are so common, calling them unique is a laugh.

Deep and unique would be No More Heroes and Mad World. NMH didn't sell well in Japan, but well in NA. Mad World will probably have the same outcome. "Deep and unique" games are a risk, because they are different. Whereas Petz is not. You know what your getting, and it's simple and easy and straightforward. Plus kids love it. Money maker.
CoD and GTA can make themselves unique while keeping the core gameplay. CoD may be an FPS, but it has full customization, and even RPG elements (can't say that for Halo and Medal of Honor), same goes for GTA.

That's the problem, agian, with casuals. They only go for what they know (like "Petz" and other terrible licensed crap) and don't try new things nad be pleasently surprised. I didn't care for Psychonauts until I tried it.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
If anything, they are against planned obsolescence. They believe in what Gunpei Yokoi called "lateral thinking of withered technology."

Gamers are the ones that don't buy unique titles like Psychonauts. Because they are too busy with the same old FPS to care.

Why wouldn't you take advantage of people who don't know better? Who needs integrity when you have money? That's how many companies these days think.

They just need an aggressive marketing campaign for games like Psychonauts and Okami. That can sell anything. Just ask Nintendo.  ;)

Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
If anything, they are against planned obsolescence. They believe in what Gunpei Yokoi called "lateral thinking of withered technology."

Gamers are the ones that don't buy unique titles like Psychonauts. Because they are too busy with the same old FPS to care.

Why wouldn't you take advantage of people who don't know better? Who needs integrity when you have money? That's how many companies these days think.

They just need an aggressive marketing campaign for games like Psychonauts and Okami. That can sell anything. Just ask Nintendo.  ;)


Hooray corporate greed...no wonder we're in the second coming of the great depression if stuff isn't changed quick X_X;;
I meant planned obsolesnce for games...I think I got bored of every game after a short period of time on the Wii besides Brawl while I still play PS3 stuff even though it's sort of old.

Actually, Nintnedo has the worst ad campaigns of the big three...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
If anything, they are against planned obsolescence. They believe in what Gunpei Yokoi called "lateral thinking of withered technology."

Gamers are the ones that don't buy unique titles like Psychonauts. Because they are too busy with the same old FPS to care.

Why wouldn't you take advantage of people who don't know better? Who needs integrity when you have money? That's how many companies these days think.

They just need an aggressive marketing campaign for games like Psychonauts and Okami. That can sell anything. Just ask Nintendo.  ;)


Hooray corporate greed...no wonder we're in the second coming of the great depression if stuff isn't changed quick X_X;;
I meant planned obsolesnce for games...I think I got bored of every game after a short period of time on the Wii besides Brawl while I still play PS3 stuff even though it's sort of old.

Actually, Nintnedo has the worst ad campaigns of the big three...
It's less corporate greed and more capitalist. Taking money from stupid and/or uninformed people is a major marketing tactic.

They are relying on celebrities playing DS games. It is literally the WORST commercial series I have seen just because it defeats the purpose of a commercial by not telling you ANYTHING about the game. If there's one marketing gimmick that I can't stand, it's a company trying to sell a LIFESTYLE rather than a product. If the product is good enough, it will speak for itself.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:04:49 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
If anything, they are against planned obsolescence. They believe in what Gunpei Yokoi called "lateral thinking of withered technology."

Gamers are the ones that don't buy unique titles like Psychonauts. Because they are too busy with the same old FPS to care.

Why wouldn't you take advantage of people who don't know better? Who needs integrity when you have money? That's how many companies these days think.

They just need an aggressive marketing campaign for games like Psychonauts and Okami. That can sell anything. Just ask Nintendo.  ;)


Hooray corporate greed...no wonder we're in the second coming of the great depression if stuff isn't changed quick X_X;;
I meant planned obsolesnce for games...I think I got bored of every game after a short period of time on the Wii besides Brawl while I still play PS3 stuff even though it's sort of old.

Actually, Nintnedo has the worst ad campaigns of the big three...
It's less corporate greed and more capitalist. Taking money from stupid and/or uninformed people is a major marketing tactic.

They are relying on celebrities playing DS games. It is literally the WORST commercial series I have seen just because it defeats the purpose of a commercial by not telling you ANYTHING about the game. If there's one marketing gimmick that I can't stand, it's a company trying to sell a LIFESTYLE rather than a product. If the product is good enough, it will speak for itself.
Capitalist is making money by keeping existing customers while doing just enough to bring in new customers consistantly.
Corporate greed is taking advantage of stupid people and not caring who you have to ignore/trample to do it... (a.k.a. everyone today).

I hate that too...thanks a lot Mac...
I mean they tell you NOTHING about the computer...just badmouth PC's (even though PC's are better for certain things and Macs are better for certain things). I also hate celebrities...thats why any project I hope to do in the future I will NOT use celebrities EVER...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 05:08:25 PM
Major corporations are corrupt. That's all I can say.

I just see the whole selling a lifestyle thing as a crutch for an inferior product.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:08:25 PM
Major corporations are corrupt. That's all I can say.

I just see the whole selling a lifestyle thing as a crutch for an inferior product.
Exactly...it's why I rarely buy stuff I don't need anymore (besides my games). It's just not worth it...
and god knows if washington is going to do anything about it...but then again they're not much better X_X;;

Oh wait...this is wrong board. Go to PM's for this discussion...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:09:29 PM
On a side note, when Nayr mentioned Brawl...
Its not Nintendo's fault the online connection is poopty, its GameSpy.   :-\
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:09:29 PM
On a side note, when Nayr mentioned Brawl...
Its not Nintendo's fault the online connection is s***ty, its GameSpy.   :-\
Then dump them and get a good server...they did for MKWii X_X;;
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 06:10:51 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:09:29 PM
On a side note, when Nayr mentioned Brawl...
Its not Nintendo's fault the online connection is poopty, its GameSpy.   :-\
Yeah, don't they run Nintendo's servers?

You mean with all of the money and resources Nintendo has they can't operate their own server?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:10:51 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:09:29 PM
On a side note, when Nayr mentioned Brawl...
Its not Nintendo's fault the online connection is s***ty, its GameSpy.   :-\
Yeah, don't they run Nintendo's servers?

You mean with all of the money and resources Nintendo has they can't operate their own server?
GameSpy runs a lot of servers, the problem with Brawl, and it would be the same with Nintendo mind you, is how the information is sent and received between Wii's is very unorthodox or rather leaves a huge margin for error.

And really, for free online why would Nintendo waste time and money on their own servers and keep them running properly?
You guys were saying its a business, and well...
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
GS3 was supposedly in the works.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Very long, and Nintendo is teasing us by putting Pit in Brawl.

Same thing they are doing by putting Lucas in Brawl.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Very long, and Nintendo is teasing us by putting Pit in Brawl.

Same thing they are doing by putting Lucas in Brawl.
And we all hate them for it ^_^

HtA: Sony has free servers...they make it up in DLC
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:18:13 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Very long, and Nintendo is teasing us by putting Pit in Brawl.

Same thing they are doing by putting Lucas in Brawl.
Well, technically its Sakurai... not sure if Ninty would have still had him in if they ran it
Im glad we at least got a GS reference  :D
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Very long, and Nintendo is teasing us by putting Pit in Brawl.

Same thing they are doing by putting Lucas in Brawl.
And we all hate them for it ^_^

HtA: Sony has free servers...they make it up in DLC
Their system is also much more expensive and +10 for games does add up.
But as for DLC, you and I both know the Wii couldn't handle it anyway.

Nintendo would have to
1. Make a hard drive
2. Market this to the casual gamer
3. Hope it sells
4. Make online more accessible to the casual gamer
5. Lower the up-tightness of FC's
6. Make DLC
7. Market DLC
8. ???
9. Profit

All in all, a very daunting and risky task.
Don;t expect it any time soon.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:24:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Ok, so this E3 was disappointing for Nintendo.

But it can only get better from here, right?
depends on what happens during Nintendo's usual event in the fall...
Pikmin 3, F-Zero Wii, Kid Icarus, Pilotwings Wii, the possibilities are endless.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
Apparently the amazing title Reggie was talking about was Animal Crossing.
I like Animal Crossing, and will probably buy it on November 15th, but I wouldn't think of it in the way Reggie was talking about.
Animal Crossing isn't a hardcore title. It's a title that everyone can like, hardcore gamers included.

A hardcore title would be Mario/Zelda/Metroid along with F-Zero, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Pilotwings.
Golden Sun please. :(
Golden Sun and Kid Icarus please...
we've asked for these for how long and gotten nothing in return?
Very long, and Nintendo is teasing us by putting Pit in Brawl.

Same thing they are doing by putting Lucas in Brawl.
And we all hate them for it ^_^

HtA: Sony has free servers...they make it up in DLC
Their system is also much more expensive and +10 for games is does add up.
But as for DLC, you and I both know the Wii couldn't handle it anyway.

Nintendo would have to
1. Make a hard drive
2. Market this to the casual gamer
3. Hope it sells
4. Make online more accessible to the casual gamer
5. Lower the up-tightness of FC's
6. Make DLC
7. Market DLC
8. ???
9. Profit

All in all, a very daunting and risky task.
Don;t expect it any time soon.
But it's already happening with Guitar Hero World Tour, so here's how Nintendo is like. It's fine if you want to have your own servers and set up your own in-game store for DLC, but don't expect us to do any of it.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Tupin on July 15, 2008, 06:23:24 PM
Wow, I found the best gif ever over at NS2. XD

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x171/olimariOA/blah3.gif)

So true...  :D
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Samba de Amigo and GH are already doing it HtA.
Sony does it just fine and they're making enough money.
Nintendo would do it if they actually bothered to make a system that could handle it (cheapskates)
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Mystic on July 15, 2008, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:23:24 PM
Wow, I found the best gif ever over at NS2. XD

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x171/olimariOA/blah3.gif)

So true...  :D
xD nice find
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: HTA! on July 15, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Samba de Amigo and GH are already doing it HtA.
Sony does it just fine and they're making enough money.
Nintendo would do it if they actually bothered to make a system that could handle it (cheapskates)
I had heard that GH was still unconfirmed, but that's good at least.
Darn my PS2 version, GH4 will be on my 360.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Samba de Amigo and GH are already doing it HtA.
Sony does it just fine and they're making enough money.
Nintendo would do it if they actually bothered to make a system that could handle it (cheapskates)
I had heard that GH was still unconfirmed, but that's good at least.
Darn my PS2 version, GH4 will be on my 360.
It has been confirmed. They even said it in an interview.

And SSBB kind of had it too because you could take stages and stuff from Wi-Fi
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Samba de Amigo and GH are already doing it HtA.
Sony does it just fine and they're making enough money.
Nintendo would do it if they actually bothered to make a system that could handle it (cheapskates)
I had heard that GH was still unconfirmed, but that's good at least.
Darn my PS2 version, GH4 will be on my 360.
It has been confirmed. They even said it in an interview.

And SSBB kind of had it too because you could take stages and stuff from Wi-Fi
U can't keep it, so it's not DLC (again, cheapskates)
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 15, 2008, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:24:17 PM
Samba de Amigo and GH are already doing it HtA.
Sony does it just fine and they're making enough money.
Nintendo would do it if they actually bothered to make a system that could handle it (cheapskates)
I had heard that GH was still unconfirmed, but that's good at least.
Darn my PS2 version, GH4 will be on my 360.
It has been confirmed. They even said it in an interview.

And SSBB kind of had it too because you could take stages and stuff from Wi-Fi
U can't keep it, so it's not DLC (again, cheapskates)
Oh well. The game will also have GH Tunes where you can take songs people made and keep them. This will be so cool! 8)
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: Rayquarian on July 17, 2008, 10:41:29 PM
No, because I knew better than to set my expectations high since there was no evidence of any big news being announced at E3, plus, Nintendo doesn't take E3 as seriously anymore.
Title: Re: So based on the reaction of everyone here...
Post by: extraz on August 19, 2008, 01:59:24 AM
hell no, I don't even believe in the whole hardcore thing. It seems too convenient to be able to generalize the gaming audience like that.