(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_starters.jpg)
Here we go. They'll be revealed soon. What do you guys think? I see the one on the left as having a tail of leaves, a flame tail, or a mermaids tail, so I have no idea which one will be which type. I bet the one in the middle is the grass, just because it is on 4 legs.
im guessing order is fire grass water
The first one could be a water type, though. All water starters are so bulky in body, so maybe having a slim one would be a nice change.
hmm, the one on the right makes me think of a beaver honestly, so it could be the water.
The middle one a rabbit, and the one on the left....
Quote from: Cornwad on May 08, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_starters.jpg)
having a tail of leaves, a flame tail, or a mermaids tail, so I have no idea which one will be which type.
I personally think the one on the right is a platypus thing. The one in the middle looks electric to me, but that makes no sense.
Quote from: DawnwolfNxhoj on May 08, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
hmm, the one on the right makes me think of a beaver honestly, so it could be the water.
We have Bidoof as the beaver already.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 08, 2010, 07:15:05 PM
I personally think the one on the right is a platypus thing.
The closest to a platypus is Psyduck, but I think there are more ducks out there.
I think the first one is grass.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 08, 2010, 07:42:38 PM
I think the first one is grass.
me too, and fire in the middle with water on the right
It is Water, Fire, Grass, in that order.
Also this
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_pokemonBW_starter_trans_by_emlan.png)
They all look pathetic :x
I think I died a little on the inside ;_;
Edit: Wait there's still hope even if they look nothing like the screenshots.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx310/RollingCap/1268017722445.jpg)
It'd be cool if those designs were fake
Quote from: Cornwad on May 08, 2010, 08:26:20 PM
Also this
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_pokemonBW_starter_trans_by_emlan.png)
The lower one as grass wins hard.
BUT HOLY SHIT THE ONE ON THE RIGHT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS POTENTIAL
DON'T FUCK IT UP OR I'LL RANT. seriously holy poop that looks like it could be some bad ass beaver/otter combination or some poop like that.
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_starters.jpg)
Hm... the one on the left looks familiar...
(http://daikazoku.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/excalibur.jpg)
THAT STARTER WANTS TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIS LEGEND!
Anyhoo, from the looks of it, the designs seem okay, and I predict starting from the left, Fire, Grass, Water.
They look like they'll suffer from Game Freak's tendencies to add random spots and crap to their designs and make them overly detailed.
Middle one looks like a mutated Spoink.
Game Freak
You disappoint me yet again.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2r74oi8.jpg)
The shadows look a bit iffy, but I've actually always been iffy about Poke designs. Probably since Gen1.
Honestly, it's always taken me some time to get used to a Pokemon and recognize it as a starter, if that makes any sense.
Where does it say those are starters? From what I've found out by looking around, it's just three silhouettes, which doesn't automatically mean starters.
Because having more types besides the fire/grass/water makes it slightly easier to guess them, without having to shoehorn them into those types. I wish you actually had to catch your first pokemon on your own. :( but w/e
I still say those aren't the starters.
Quote from: TUROK on May 10, 2010, 07:34:08 PM
Where does it say those are starters? From what I've found out by looking around, it's just three silhouettes, which doesn't automatically mean starters.
Because having more types besides the fire/grass/water makes it slightly easier to guess them, without having to shoehorn them into those types. I wish you actually had to catch your first pokemon on your own. :( but w/e
I still say those aren't the starters.
its in this url http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black,_White_Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon_silhouettes_unveiled_on_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sunday (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black,_White_Starter_Pok%C3%A9mon_silhouettes_unveiled_on_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sunday)
So? In the actual reveal, they never mentioned that these were the starters. Even in the Bulbapedia article, it doesn't mention starters. Only th URL. I call bollocks.
So far, it just seems like a way to get more hits.
Quote from: TUROK on May 10, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
So? In the actual reveal, they never mentioned that these were the starters. Even in the Bulbapedia article, it doesn't mention starters. Only th URL. I call bollocks.
So far, it just seems like a way to get more hits.
Eh. I figure if Serebii confirms it, it's pretty much a sure thing. Besides, all we've gotten so far is 5 seconds of a town and 2 moderately crappy fox things.
Quote from: TUROK on May 10, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
So? In the actual reveal, they never mentioned that these were the starters. Even in the Bulbapedia article, it doesn't mention starters. Only th URL. I call bollocks.
So far, it just seems like a way to get more hits.
Tell me a good reason why they'd put random Pokemon instead of starters, then. They're always three starters, and there are three silhouttes.
Quote from: TUROK on May 10, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
So? In the actual reveal, they never mentioned that these were the starters. Even in the Bulbapedia article, it doesn't mention starters. Only th URL. I call bollocks.
So far, it just seems like a way to get more hits.
Its also in the title of the post-thingy.
EDIT: Also, heres a vid. of the reveal if anyone understands enough Japanese to determine if they confirm it or not
Quote from: Mikoyan on May 08, 2010, 10:43:37 PM
I think I died a little on the inside ;_;
Edit: Wait there's still hope even if they look nothing like the screenshots.
Am I the only one who thinks those things are ugly and would be one of the worst pokemon designs ever if it wasn't fake?
Quote from: bluaki on May 10, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
Am I the only one who thinks those things are ugly and would be one of the worst pokemon designs ever if it wasn't fake?
Nope.
Most of the reason that I don't think these are the starters? Because if they aren't, I can ignore them :3
Well I like them. I think they at least have potential to be better than the Gen 3 starters.
If you people seriously think these pokemon aren't starters, you're intercourse ing retarded.
The chubby one isn't necessarily the water-type. The slender bipedal one's tail could easily be a fin instead of a leaf. At least, it doesn't look like a fire tail, because the spikes are way too sharp for a flame, not to mention it'd look just a bit too much like a Charmander clone.
Four-legged one looks most grass-like to me because of the leaf-like bunny ears. And grass ones tend to stand on all fours. I could see it being any of the three types, though.
We'll probably see their true colors around Thursday. I doubt even now that they'll change up the Grass/Fire/Water trio to anything else. Would be funny/interesting/different if these turn out to be something like Grass/Ground/Poison.
http://kotaku.com/5536975/here-are-some-new-pokemon (http://kotaku.com/5536975/here-are-some-new-pokemon)
I have to admit, they aren't as bad as I thought they were going to be.
Yeah, they're not bad. Here's hoping the fire starter's tail turns into a mini-volcano or something.
It's fun to note how excited the fire starter looks, and how indifferent the other starters seem.
Is the Fire type a pig? We haven't had a pig Pokemon before.
They look...meh. The grass looks like a more leaf based Treecko, and I have no idea what the water type is supposed to be.
A Fire Type pig? Well, that's interesting at least.
I always had the thought of starters making it obvious straight off the bat who you pick thus being why the designs are always so varied.
That being said the fire pig looks intercourse ing awesome. The Grass...What is that? It's still pretty neat. I still like the one in my avatar more. The otter seemed to have the most potential and kinda blew it. Still good but it's intercourse ing face. It mainly looks so retarded too...It really needs a new pose.
I actually think this is one of the better starter sets from the bat. It for sure comes across as more appealing then last gen's starters. Come to think of it, I never really found a starter set fully appealing except maybe 2nd gen, so I think this is potentially my favorite starter set. Can't determine quite yet.
edit: Also the otter's colors are awkwardly picked. They just don't click.
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/78/Corocoro7.jpg)
why do you think Kanto/Johto and Sinnoh are in the upper left?
Differences.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on May 12, 2010, 06:03:48 AM
Is the Fire type a pig? We haven't had a pig Pokemon before.
Grumpig says hi.
The grass one actually looks pretty cool. I wanna see what it's final evolution will look like, hopefully it won't be too intercourse ed up. D:
After a little bit of time and thought, FirePig and the grass type have started to grow on me, but the water type still looks ridiculously stupid.
And am I the only one to notice the new trainer designs? I really like them. They look a bit older and more capable than the 10 year olds we've been getting lately.
The fire pig is retarded. I consider the Grass type and the Sea Otter as reminiscent of the 3rd/4th and 1st generation, respectively. Also, I hate walking into these kind of threads when it comes to Pokemon.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 12, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
And am I the only one to notice the new trainer designs? I really like them. They look a bit older and more capable than the 10 year olds we've been getting lately.
Personally, I'm glad the male trainer doesn't look like such a dork this time around.
I like the grass, the fire is the first one I've liked more than the other two, and the final form of the otter should be instersing. What types do you think these will be? I can see the fire one being fire/ground, but there's no way to tell.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 08, 2010, 08:26:20 PM
Also this
(http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_pokemonBW_starter_trans_by_emlan.png)
This was definitely pretty accurate.
I think they look retarded.
The water one looks like Piplup.
Yup, I'll be naming the water one "Baby Butter". They are rather cute though, and I like the girl trainer's hair.
Yeah, the otter is definitely Piplup 2.0 and the grass one looks like what I assume Treecko would look like without the 3rd gen art style.
And I don't know why, but I just got more respect for Turtwig.
Quote from: Gwen Khan on May 12, 2010, 07:05:11 AM
*snip*
why do you think Kanto/Johto and Sinnoh are in the upper left?
I'm pretty sure it's talking about the generation shift; there's also Gold/Lyra and Diamond/Platinum in the bottom left pointing towards the new character pairings
At least the characters for B/W are decent looking; the guy could actually be put into rl and not look out of place. That's some crazy hair on the girl, though.
From what I've heard, that thing in the top left says that the new region is really far away from the others, so it might not be based on Japan or something.
If it wasn't for the battle thing right above it, I would have assumed the new types were grass ground and ice.
EDIT: After double checking a type chart, that would be ridiculously unbalanced.
The pig one is pretty retarded.
The grass one is really retarded.
I will not even obtain the water one.
Am I the only one who thinks the Sea Otter looks kind of like a snow cone?
Quote from: Thirdkoopa on May 12, 2010, 01:26:21 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the Sea Otter looks kind of like a snow cone?
Those were my EXACT WORDS when I first saw them earlier today. :D
I didn't like them at first, but as I've looked more at them, I'm starting to like them. In fact, overall, I have a feeling they might end up being my 3rd favorite group of starters (as in, 1st>2nd>5th>4th>3rd). I'll have to wait until I see their 2nd and 3rd forms before I decide which one I really want... the grass one looks pretty cool, the water one is kinda cute, and while the pig looks a bit awkward, I have a feeling he's gonna turn into some awesome Ganon-like flaming boar monster.
Now to make up some English names...
Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 12, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
Those were my EXACT WORDS when I first saw them earlier today. :D
I didn't like them at first, but as I've looked more at them, I'm starting to like them. In fact, overall, I have a feeling they might end up being my 3rd favorite group of starters (as in, 1st>2nd>5th>4th>3rd). I'll have to wait until I see their 2nd and 3rd forms before I decide which one I really want... the grass one looks pretty cool, the water one is kinda cute, and while the pig looks a bit awkward, I have a feeling he's gonna turn into some awesome Ganon-like flaming boar monster.
Now to make up some English names...
I always go with the fire type, but I'll find someone with the import Japanese version, and ask them to breed the other two for me and mooch of him. It's what I always do :P
Seems the Water one will become some snowman mixed with some sea creature (White face, orange nose, black beaty eyes, yells snowman to me), but that might just be me.
Fire guy should become some epic looking fire beast ganon.
Grass guy is interesting, dunno what to comment on though.
I don't know if anyone's checked Serebii, but apparently each pokemon already has an official description or whatever it's called: Tsutaja is the Grass Snake Pokemon (not sure why it has arms and legs, though), Pokabu is the Fire Pig Pokemon (in case that wasn't obvious), and Mijumaru is the Sea Otter Pokemon (no snowman reference, but don't give up hope yet...).
Oh, and I came up with some cheesy American names for each starter and their alternate forms, just for fun:
Grass Starter: Slitheaf-Vinper-Serplant
Fire Starter: Pyrglet-Embine-Flamboar
Water Starter: Seatter-Muskrain-Ottean
Er, I think I'd like to leave the names' part to the producers...
Time to start guessing end types!
I think it will be:
fire/ground
grass/poison
water/ice
Grass/ELECTRIC
Fire/Fire
Water/Ice
I like Serplant, that's just punny enough to work.
Grass/Psychic
Fire/Ground
Water/Ice
Of course, I don't think anyone expected Turtwig to end up ground or Piplup to be steel. The otter will probably be dark and the grass will be a dragon for all I know.
It's hard to guess what the final evo types will be just looking off these starters. Past starters have sometimes gone in different type directions than I'd think they would at first glance. (ie: Torchic, Piplup, Charmander, not Mudkip, maybe Turtwig and Chimchar)
Guessing is fun though, so...grass/poison, fire/dark and water/ice or fighting.
For all we know they could be straight up single typed, or not change type til their last evo.
Quote from: SkyMyl on May 12, 2010, 11:05:08 AM
The fire pig is retarded. I consider the Grass type and the Sea Otter as reminiscent of the 3rd/4th and 1st generation, respectively.
...the art style of the Fire Pig fits with the 2nd gen style. Consequently, it's my favorite of the three.
I'm not a fan of pigs, but I'll probably end up choosing him.
Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 12, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
Those were my EXACT WORDS when I first saw them earlier today. :D
Yeah.
It
literately looks like a snow cone.
But I still really like all the art designs. They're really growing on me. Granted the Grass one isn't as awesome as my avatar would be with a bit of tooling but I still like it.
I actually like the real design more, personally
Quote from: Thirdkoopa on May 12, 2010, 06:21:20 PM
Yeah.
It literately looks like a snow cone.
But I still really like all the art designs. They're really growing on me. Granted the Grass one isn't as awesome as my avatar would be with a bit of tooling but I still like it.
Why would the Grass type one wear a scarf is beyond me.
Type guessing?
Grass/Flying or Grass/Dragon (since it's a snake, I'm hoping it will be some serpent dragon like Rayquaza or Gyarados)
Fire/Dark or Fire/Ground (I'm really hoping it's the former to make it more Ganon-ish, but as a pig, it might just be Ground)
Water/Ice or Water (Ice is really the only thing I can see this being half of)
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on May 12, 2010, 07:11:41 PM
Why would the Grass type one wear a scarf is beyond me.
As I said "With a few edits" though the scarf just fits extremely well with the style. If it had some way to be implemented without just being "Oh cool" It'd be a must to go for.
But for what they did they got pretty close to my expectations so yay.
When I see the fire starter, I suddenly get really hungry. I hope its name has something to do with pigs in a blanket, hot dogs, or a pig roast.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 12, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
When I see the fire starter, I suddenly get really hungry. I hope its name has something to do with pigs in a blanket, hot dogs, or a pig roast.
inb4 Torpig
Quote from: TUROK on May 12, 2010, 07:57:21 PM
inb4 Torpig
Pigma
Charswine (maybe even swinemander)
(Evo name) Boarroast
I like Boarroast. It rolls off the tongue and sounds like a giant flaming pig monster.
Other words you can use:
Sow. Hog. Boar. Pork. Ham.
Worst. Starters. Ever.
You guys and your pickiness, they could be the most awesome looking starters and you'd say the same thing. You'd also likely say it next gen, and the gen after that.
Quote from: Sherlock on May 12, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
Worst. Starters. Ever.
Yeah, but what if the final evos are badass?
No, Jr, I wouldn't. Let's take a look at the water evo. It looks like piplup decided to become an otter or some poop and get a little fluff (and lose the beak). Perhaps it had a night of rough sex with Mime. Jr.
Then we have the pig bunny thing. Note the color similarities to Cyndaquil, extended snout, etc. They just snagged spoink's tail, through on some longer ears, docked the nose, and away they went.
And let's not forget the grass. I don't even know where to go with it...it's just pathetic looking. Honestly, it looks like they were going for a Treecko/Cyndaquil hybrid with a fan tail. What exactly is it?
As much as I REALLY hate agreeing with the people in the "You're complaining too much" alley with gaming discussions I'm stuck agreeing in this case. Granted I'm not saying you have to instantly love them either but some of you guys are a bit too quick on judging them. I wasn't quite quick and oddly enough I notice myself more satisfied.
First off remember the goal of starters. The goal of starters is to have one straight off the bat you like more than the others. Outside of arguably 4th gen, every gen so far has done this. This thread is complete proof of this that they succeeded at their job. Also do remember the art designs are similar and they've gone up to more than 500 now so it's very easy to come across Pokemon that do look similar to previous ones.
Now let's evaluate each of them:
The Water starter is actually fine. At first as you can see by my posts I was a bit undecided on it but let's look at it. It's just that: 1) It's pose sucks (It's completely unemotional) I mean seriously...Just look at the pose. 2) It looks like a snow cone. Seriously. What am I suppose to say to that? 3)The colors are distorted Or as another one of my friends called it "Clownotter". Just give it some time. It's not like it's the clown otter's fault for having the company say "Hey guys! Maybe if we make it look like a zombie in it's pose it'll look much better!".
The Fire one looks a bit rehashed from a few others compared to the other two. I can see where the complaints are coming from with that. But other then that it seems fine. One that has a bit more emotion and is more happy and is a pig. Not that bad at all. Also they actually got the pose right here.
As for the Grass one, eh, it grows on contrary to not being as cool as my avatar - It's just that once again, it's a bit color distorted. And on top of that, much like bulbasaur at first, you have no idea what it is. It's just kinda there. It's still an interesting idea and for sure contributes to the variety of starters.
And really, when you look at some of the fan designs (Ok, outside of...You know which one) like the other potential sea otter designs, you begin to realize that these can't quite be the worst designs. They're just a bit color distorted, badly posed, and at this point, looking a bit like copies at times if you stare into it too hard.
but hey god forbid something you have to actually look at more than a minute and get the feel of it am i right
Considering the fact that if these were the first gen starters and we were just shown Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle for the first time, people wouldn't like them, I have to agree with TK.
Sure, the starters aren't as cool as the 1st/2nd gen starters but holy poop are they better than last gens starters.
Isn't that what everyone thought about every starter? Just give it some time, and some more new pictures. I agree with TK there, and I really, REALLY wanna see the final evo for the grass starter. I'm leaning towards him for my pick when i get B/W, but it depends on his final evo. I'm hoping for cool typing.
Sorry, but I just found this on another forum and I had to post it, as it's exactly what I thought when I first saw these starters:
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/BalladOfGales/pigroast.png)
Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 13, 2010, 01:30:02 PM
Sorry, but I just found this on another forum and I had to post it, as it's exactly what I thought when I first saw these starters:
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/BalladOfGales/pigroast.png)
I knew that face was familiar!
Quote from: Thirdkoopa on May 13, 2010, 02:00:25 AM
As much as I REALLY hate agreeing with the people in the "You're complaining too much" alley with gaming discussions I'm stuck agreeing in this case. Granted I'm not saying you have to instantly love them either but some of you guys are a bit too quick on judging them. I wasn't quite quick and oddly enough I notice myself more satisfied.
First off remember the goal of starters. The goal of starters is to have one straight off the bat you like more than the others. Outside of arguably 4th gen, every gen so far has done this. This thread is complete proof of this that they succeeded at their job. Also do remember the art designs are similar and they've gone up to more than 500 now so it's very easy to come across Pokemon that do look similar to previous ones.
Now let's evaluate each of them:
The Water starter is actually fine. At first as you can see by my posts I was a bit undecided on it but let's look at it. It's just that: 1) It's pose sucks (It's completely unemotional) I mean seriously...Just look at the pose. 2) It looks like a snow cone. Seriously. What am I suppose to say to that? 3)The colors are distorted Or as another one of my friends called it "Clownotter". Just give it some time. It's not like it's the clown otter's fault for having the company say "Hey guys! Maybe if we make it look like a zombie in it's pose it'll look much better!".
The Fire one looks a bit rehashed from a few others compared to the other two. I can see where the complaints are coming from with that. But other then that it seems fine. One that has a bit more emotion and is more happy and is a pig. Not that bad at all. Also they actually got the pose right here.
As for the Grass one, eh, it grows on contrary to not being as cool as my avatar - It's just that once again, it's a bit color distorted. And on top of that, much like bulbasaur at first, you have no idea what it is. It's just kinda there. It's still an interesting idea and for sure contributes to the variety of starters.
And really, when you look at some of the fan designs (Ok, outside of...You know which one) like the other potential sea otter designs, you begin to realize that these can't quite be the worst designs. They're just a bit color distorted, badly posed, and at this point, looking a bit like copies at times if you stare into it too hard.
but hey god forbid something you have to actually look at more than a minute and get the feel of it am i right
Oh god I like your new avatar. Smugleaf is smug.
Also to those saying we're picky...
I've posted a thread about how I feel about starters. I do agree that this gen's starters are atrocious.
I love Gen 1. I love Gen 2. I only like Mudkip of Gen 3. I only dislike Piplup of Gen 4.
The starters generally follow a trend, and none of these new ones seem to do that.
Fire starters have flame spewing from their body in every member of their evolution line, with the exception of Torchic who only has flame when it becomes Blaziken, so I dislike Torchic.
Grass starters are always dinosaur/turtle/reptilian quadrupeds. Treeko is the only one to not follow the quadrupedal trend and is more amphibian than reptilian.
Water starters are always swamp/marshland creatures. Turtles, Crocodiles, and Mudfish? Fine. Penguins? No, Piplup fails.
None of these new starters seem to follow the trends at all and this is why I dislike them. They feel more like digimon.
I may have liked them more if they weren't the starters. A firey boar or hog could be fun. Smugleaf sure is smug. Otters are intercourse ing adorable.
Quote from: Jeff Probst on May 13, 2010, 02:14:51 PM
Oh god I like your new avatar. Smugleaf is smug.
As I said, it's the pose.
For people that still feel the same way after seeing my post try viewing this (The one where I got my current avatar from and edited it around) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/132/5/d/5th_gen_here_we_come_by_spirit_of_america.jpg) or this (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/133/d/c/5th_Gen_Sleeping_Starters_by_MidoriEyes.jpg). It'll help lighten your thoughts.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2mdl1rq.png < My original one was that. But I think I'm growing to like the official design (The one in my avatar) more.
Quote from: Jeff Probst on May 13, 2010, 02:20:07 PM
Stuff
...And since when did they have to follow a trend you put up on your own? It's not like they've gone completely out of their way to make em different yet.
Quote from: Thirdkoopa on May 13, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
As I said, it's the pose.
For people that still feel the same way after seeing my post try viewing this (The one where I got my current avatar from and edited it around) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/132/5/d/5th_gen_here_we_come_by_spirit_of_america.jpg) or this (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/133/d/c/5th_Gen_Sleeping_Starters_by_MidoriEyes.jpg). It'll help lighten your thoughts.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2mdl1rq.png < My original one was that. But I think I'm growing to like the official design (The one in my avatar) more.
...And since when did they have to follow a trend you put up on your own? It's not like they've gone completely out of their way to make em different yet.
It's a trend they set with three exceptions. I dislike change.
lolquotes
Three expectations? It's a trend they broke before back in Gen 3, so, the change, yeah, try to get use to it or you'll be seeing a lot more disappointments. Chances are they've probably never even thought of one of them like that. The chances of thinking all 3? Yeah. To add on if we're just arguing fan-based stuff the Otter fits in more than Piplup does to water types. The hog? Eh it's fine enough and simple enough as is. The Firefly? Alright, I'll give that one correct, but even then Treecko fit well in and this one doesn't fit atrociously bad. Granted it doesn't fit better than the Otter to Water nor the Fire Pig but it has something that clicks.
I think that the grass type looks eerily like Treeco, but I think that is the only decent of the group.
The water one looks like Piplup got its beak beat in with a baseball bat, and a pig fire type that looks stupid is just stupid. I'm not saying I hate it because it's the new generation. I haven't disliked a generation of Pokemon yet, so I feel like I have the right to call Pokemon retarded.
Seriously, there is no reason to jump the gun and say that I would hate the game no mater what Jr. I am still really excited for it, and I want to see what kind of Pokemon they make.
BTW, Chikorita is still the best starter. Just saying...
You can't please everyone. If they had made the grass starter another reptilian quadruped, the pig with flames coming out everywhere, and the water a swamp creature, people would just say that the new starters are rip offs of the old ones and that they are running out of ideas. If they do something new, it's bad because it breaks tradition. Huh.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 13, 2010, 03:25:58 PM
You can't please everyone. If they had made the grass starter another reptilian quadruped, the pig with flames coming out everywhere, and the water a swamp creature, people would just say that the new starters are rip offs of the old ones and that they are running out of ideas. If they do something new, it's bad because it breaks tradition. Huh.
Damned if you do, darned if you don't
The water-type starter here looks terrible. It's like they beheaded a Snowman and glued that head to a potentially-decent otter Pokemon's body. Who knows, maybe it's just the pose, but that's how I feel about the only decent picture available of it. this picture that TK posted (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/132/5/d/5th_gen_here_we_come_by_spirit_of_america.jpg) makes it look so much better because its head issue is changed to look more natural.
The grass-type one looks fine to me. The fire one looks a little ugly in its first form, but it could have potential when evolved; it's like a mix of a pig and rabbit that I feel would be better off being more rabbit-like (though Buneary already exists as a rabbit pokemon). Regardless of design, unless they actually change the balance between the three types significantly in this game's story, I'll stick with the fire one.
Quote from: bluaki on May 13, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/132/5/d/5th_gen_here_we_come_by_spirit_of_america.jpg)
How did I miss this? This makes them all look so much better, but the pig, as cute as it is, looks more like a Neopet/Disney hybrid.
I personally don't care about any "traditions" (the only one that really even exists being that all Grass starters are reptilian; dino-dino-gecko-snake), but I am definitely in for new things. In fact, when it comes to pokemon, repeating the past is often just that: repetition. I swear, if this pig turns out to evolve into ANOTHER Fire/Fighting, I might have to break my game cartridge in half...
Those trends don't matter to me, I don't see why they'd matter to anyone at all to begin with.
The grass type is alright
The fire type is definitely growing on me
and the otter looks intercourse ing retarded. I like the shell on his torso though, nice touch.
I'll pick the otter.
...This is embarrassing, but I don't know how an actual otter looks like.
You're not missing much. They have short stumpy legs and great long noses. D:
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on May 13, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
I'll pick the otter.
...This is embarrassing, but I don't know how an actual otter looks like.
Otters are so intercourse ing adorable. They swim on their backs and use shells to keep themselves clean. :3
I was hoping somebody here would post a picture of an otter, but nobody did.
(http://blueridgeblog.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/24/otter_blog.jpg)
Um...I don't see any similarities...
They also eat on their stomachs.
Quote from: Zero on May 13, 2010, 07:42:48 PM
They also eat on their stomachs.
(http://www.sjteach.org/otter_eating.jpg)
http://kotaku.com/5538319/pokemons-smugleaf-a-meme-in-the-making/gallery/# (http://kotaku.com/5538319/pokemons-smugleaf-a-meme-in-the-making/gallery/#)
And thus, the memes begin. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the grass one looks like Excalibur from Soul Eater. HIS LEGEND BEGINS IN THE 5th GENERATION!
I like the one with the mustache.
Smugleaf is the poop, I want it NOW.
Also, the picture bluaki posted is awesome. Makes me love the starters now.
Quote from: Mystic on May 13, 2010, 09:00:40 PM
Also, the picture bluaki posted is awesome. Makes me love the starters now.
Just as a note,
I posted that picture. Bluaki just posted it again to get more notice which was much needed. Thanks Blu!
It's proof that just because the starting pose looks bad doesn't mean the pokemon itself isn't all that bad. Did exactly what I wanted.
and poop meme's. I'm sure wotter will be able to potentially make it's way into one too.
And so it begins...
I'm still picking the fire type regardless, whether or not I use it after it's all said and done remains to be seen. They're slightly better than t he 4th gen starters at least.
Smugleaf is general consensus.
Wotter = Water Otter.
Pumburn = Pumbaa + Burn = Fire Piggy :3
When you think about it, how did we not know what those guys' types were? In the same order as every Pokédex, Grass, Fire, Water.
This makes me feel better about the starters, a bit moreso than TK's picture.
They do blend fairly well, except the pig. But still, the pig is intercourse ing adorable.
[spoiler](http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4166/1273812855564.jpg)[/spoiler]
Edit: Tall instead of long.
The pig blends as much or as little as Cyndiquail does.
Smugleaf is like, look at these bithes.
The fanart is doing these guys so much intercourse ing justice.
I'm falling in love with Wotter.
[spoiler=All of them](http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2504/1273814772977.png)
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4853/1273812747435.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Wotter](http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/189/1273814289400.jpg%5B/img%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bimg%5Dhttp://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2964/1273813991406.png)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1695/1273813832768.png)
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1335/1273813785337.gif)
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5971/1273812839791.png)
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5972/1273813953172.jpg)
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2373/1273812177423.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Pumburn](http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2964/1273813991406.png)
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6601/1273815555987.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler=lol dont click this one.]
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/916/1273812544143.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2140/1273811255275.jpg)[/spoiler]
they look the same to me.
The first one on the "don't click this one" is incredibly disturbing, and not because it's bloody...
Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 13, 2010, 11:01:47 PM
The first one on the "don't click this one" is incredibly disturbing, and not because it's bloody...
I didn't even see it until you pointed it out. Oh intercourse ing god.
Removed it completely now that I feel like vomiting.
I like Swinomyte more than Pumburn, but those are nice pictures.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 14, 2010, 03:57:06 AM
I like Swinomyte more than Pumburn, but those are nice pictures.
But... Hakuna...matata.
I also like Pignition for an evolution.
I have a feeling the fire-pig will evolve into something completely ugly. And I'm afraid of what "Wotter" will turn into. So I'm still leaning towards Smugleaf, and that's definitely going to be my starter. I'm positive of it.
I think it'll turn out like this:
Smugleaf->something fabulous or even more smug.
Pig->something huge and menacing, maybe with horns.
The Third Starter->some vicious otter that looks ready to tear things to pieces...or a obese otter.
Grass: Some lizard-like thing with beautiful flowers coming out of it's ass (the leaf tail thing)
Fire: Beast ganon similarities, all furry parts will be made of fire.
Water: Half snowman, half giant otter thingy. The shell design on it's chest will also be in it somehow, maybe a mermaid bikini top ( O_o ) or some new type of shell
(http://memegenerator.net/Smugleaf/ImageMacro/1079097/Smugleaf-i-cant-learn-fly-but-i-can-get-high.jpg)
Smugleaf is win.
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4125/1273910822973.jpg)
I'm gonna pretend you didn't just compare a clam shell to... that. :|
Yes, dude. That was sick. Besides, it doesn't even look like that at all.
That's what I thought when I first saw it.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1415/newstartersbypokechibia.png)
Fucking adorable.
Quote from: Mystic on May 14, 2010, 07:35:19 PM
[spoiler](http://memegenerator.net/Smugleaf/ImageMacro/1079097/Smugleaf-i-cant-learn-fly-but-i-can-get-high.jpg)[/spoiler]
Smugleaf is win.
Oh god win.
Honestly, I like the fire pig. It's pretty darn cute, and I can see it being REALLY intercourse ing intimidating in it's later evos. The grass type is pretty darn awesome. The otter one is the only one I dislike. Hate, even. It's just hideous. As said before, it looks more like a clown otter.
Smugleaf - Some majestic serpent thing. badass, very serpent like but with hands and legs, and its tail turns into leaves.
Pumburn - A vicious, menacing, but still ugly huge boar-thing. With sharp teeth and horns. I'm feeling a slight resemblance to Hippowdon with it, but in flaming boar form. Reminds me a little of this thing from Pokémon Quartz (http://img.youtube.com/vi/C3N2qcD5h2c/0.jpg). Image quality sucks because it's ripped from YouTube though. But yeah, mix that and Hippowdon and give it Pumburn's colors and there you go.
Wotter - Probably a bulky, obese otter thing with barnacles growing on its body and a slight snowman resemblance.
I might just have to choose Mijumaru when B&W come out to make up for all the hate he's getting.
Seriously, he's an adorable little otter who looks like he might become a snowman pokemon. What's wrong with that? Sure, Tsutaja is the coolest and Pokabu has potential, but give the snowotter a break. :(
What is a Mihumaru and Tsutaja?
Quote from: Cornwad on May 15, 2010, 02:01:08 PM
What is a Mihumaru and Tsutaja?
Not sure if you're serious or not, but:
Tsutaja= real (Japanese) name for "Smugleaf"
Pokabu= real (Japanese) name for "Pumburn"
Mijumaru= real (Japanese) name for "Wotter"
Oh, you should have just said so. No need to make up crazy names for Smugleaf and Wotter.
Quote from: Cornwad on May 15, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Oh, you should have just said so. No need to make up crazy names for Smugleaf and Wotter.
I thought those English names were fan-created.
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 15, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
I thought those English names were fan-created.
They
are. That's why I use their Japanese names; as of now, those [Japanese names] are their ONLY official names. Feel free to call them fan names if you want, though.
"*Name removed*: they said how these trainers are supposed to be older than the others
*Name removed*: dunno what they plan on doing with it
Thirdkoopa: "Gee thanks dad, real kids get a gun, I get this intercourse ing otter and a firefly who doesn't stop giving me a smirk""
Quoted from another chat for it's pure awesomeness.
I know it's fake.
But since I support Pumburn as a name, I support this fan art.
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7809/pokabuevolutionlinebypa.jpg)
Pignite / Pumburn / Emboar
In my opinion, horrendous.
*hops the bandwagon*
Quote from: Tsutaja on May 16, 2010, 02:04:46 PM
*hops the bandwagon*
what is with all of you stealing my smugleaf yo. :l
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 16, 2010, 01:48:30 PM
In my opinion, horrendous.
Eh it's not that bad. Could use some edits and it'd be fine. I just can't point my eyes on what.
So would that be Fire/Steel?
The artist obviously was heavily influenced by this guy here:
(http://taiyyaba.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pumba.jpg)
Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 16, 2010, 04:01:24 PM
The artist obviously was heavily influenced by this guy here:
(http://taiyyaba.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pumba.jpg)
Or, you know, an actual Warthog:
(http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/w/warthog-8934.jpg)(http://danielsanimals.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/warthog1.jpg)
I like that fan art for the Pumburn line.
I want a Smugleaf/Swampert sig. Someone go <3
3rd form is terribad, but the second form isn't all that bad.
One thing in particular that I DON'T want to see are those ball things on the end of the horns.
I agree with Zero.
I might get it if it did have that second form. But the third one ruined it for me.
So far the only one I like is Smugleaf, Pumburn is sort of growing on me though. To be honest, the fan drawings of Wotter are the only things doing that pokemon justice.