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Started by The Riddler, March 20, 2010, 11:07:08 PM

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The Riddler

What dual types that don't exist yet would you like to see in Gen 5?
Psychic/Dark? Fire/Grass? What kind of Pokemon could you imagine for these types?

For example, SkyMyl suggested a Pumpkin or Jack O' Lantern for a Fire/Grass type, while I could imagine a Tiki (in the idea of Nosepass) or a Firelily flower.

Potential weaknesses will be posted below once I find out what all the missing types are.
4x = Double Weakness
2x = Standard Weakness
1/2x = Standard Resistance
1/4x = Double Resitance
0x = Immune
Anything that would be 1x isn't listed.
[spoiler=Dark/Psychic]
4x Bug
0x Psychic[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Dragon/Electric]
2x Dragon
2x Ice
2x Ground
1/2x Fire
1/2x Grass
1/2x Water
1/2x Flying
1/2x Steel
1/4x Electric[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Dragon/Fire]
2x Dragon
2x Rock
2x Ground
1/2x Bug
1/2x Steel
1/2x Electric
1/4x Fire
1/4x Grass[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Dragon/Ice]
2x Dragon
2x Fighting
2x Rock
2x Steel
1/2x Electric
1/2x Grass
1/2x Water[/spoiler]
[Spoiler=Fire/Bug]
Fire/Bug
4x Rock
2x Water
2x Flying
1/2x Bug
1/2x Fire
1/2x Ice
1/2x Steel
1/2x Fight
1/4x Grass
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Fire/Grass]
2x Rock
2x Flying
2x Poison
1/2x Steel
1/2x Electric
1/4x Grass
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Fire/Ice]
4x Rock
2x Ground
2x Water
2x Fight
1/2x Bug
1/2x Grass
1/4x Ice
[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Fire/Water]
2x Rock
2x Ground
2x Electric
1/2x Bug
1/4x Fire
1/4x Ice
1/4x Steel
[/spoiler]

JrDude

#1
People think a little too much when it comes to what it would be.
Think about it, the Luxray family is all electric type, yet it's not made of electricity.
So something similar could be done with Fire/Ice, or Fire/Water.
Isn't a missing duel type, and it probably came to mind, is Flying.

And Dark/Psychic hasn't been done yet?! That surprises me.

And more missing Duel types are mostly with dragon, poison, and bug.
Fire/Bug
Dragon/Bug
Fire/Dragon
Ice/Dragon
etc.

Oh, and Normal has only been used with Fly, Water, and Psychic (I think those are the only ones), so you could do that too.
[move][/move]
Dude .

The Riddler

Quote from: JrDude ♦ on March 20, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
People think a little too much when it comes to what it would be.
Think about it, the Luxray family is all electric type, yet it's not made of electricity.
So something similar could be done with Fire/Ice, or Fire/Water.
Isn't a missing duel type, and it probably came to mind, is Flying.

And Dark/Psychic hasn't been done yet?! That surprises me.

And more missing Duel types are mostly with dragon, poison, and bug.
Fire/Bug
Dragon/Bug
Fire/Dragon
Ice/Dragon
etc.
Flying by itself hasn't been done, but the weaknesses are already known.
I'll get to those four momentarily.

But it's not thinking too much to find a type that matches a certain creature. One of the things I miss most about Pokemonis how most Pokemon from the first generation and second generation were based on real life creatures. Butterfree is a butterfly, a flying bug, so it's a bug/flying type. It's nice to go back to these old school matches, instead of making poop up like a fire breathing fish.

JrDude

Yes, and most miss it, but sadly it won't be all the Pokés.

And Normal could be used with a lot of types to create some pretty creative things.
I was thinking a Porcupine for Normal/Poison.
[move][/move]
Dude .

The Riddler

#4
Quote from: JrDude ♦ on March 20, 2010, 11:39:00 PM
Yes, and most miss it, but sadly it won't be all the Pokés.

And Normal could be used with a lot of types to create some pretty creative things.
I was thinking a Porcupine for Normal/Poison.
Isn't Shaymin kind of a Porcupine? Or a hedgehog, or something?
You wanna find me all the non-existent types? :3

A Fire/Bug type to me would be a Fire Ant, since we don't have any Ant Pokemon, and it makes sense. (Trapinch does not count.)

Zero

#5
Quote from: Caveman on March 20, 2010, 11:47:57 PM
Isn't Shaymin kind of a Porcupine? Or a hedgehog, or something?
You wanna find me all the non-existent types? :3

A Fire/Bug type to me would be a Fire Ant, since we don't have any Ant Pokemon, and it makes sense. (Trapinch does not count.)

Yes Shaymin is a hedgehog. And of course Trapinch doesn't count. Trapinch is an antlion, a predator of the ant species and not related to the ant in any other way.

@JrDude: What do you mean the Luxray family isn't made out of electricity? Of course not, and that doesn't mean that that's how it should be or is. The only electric type off the top of my head that is MADE out of electricity is Rotom. Most electric pokemon are like fire pokemon in that they have a special place in their bodies to store their electricity/fire and are really just..."normal" creatures otherwise.

@Topic: A Dark/Psychic type would also have  X2 weakness to ghost. Dark is neutral to ghost and psychic is weak to it. I'm also surprised there isn't a Dark/Psy type yet. And yes, the Fire Ant idea is intercourse ing brilliant.


JrDude

#6
Quote from: Zero on March 20, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
@JrDude: What do you mean the Luxray family isn't made out of electricity? Of course not, and that doesn't mean that that's how it should be or is. The only electric type off the top of my head that is MADE out of electricity is Rotom. Most electric pokemon are like fire pokemon in that they have a special place in their bodies to store their electricity/fire and are really just..."normal" creatures otherwise.
I said that because whenever I brought up Fire/Ice, someone said "wouldn't that just be water?"

Quote from: Caveman on March 20, 2010, 11:47:57 PM
You wanna find me all the non-existent types? :3
Normally I would, but I've done many long pointless tasks that ended up being litterally pointless in the end. YOU SHOULD REMEMBER ONE OF THEM.
So maybe.
[move][/move]
Dude .

The Riddler

Quote from: Zero on March 20, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
@Topic: A Dark/Psychic type would also have  X2 weakness to ghost. Dark is neutral to ghost and psychic is weak to it. I'm also surprised there isn't a Dark/Psy type yet. And yes, the Fire Ant idea is intercourse ing brilliant.
Incorrect. Dark resists Ghost. Psychic is weak to Ghost. 1/2 x 2 = 1.

JrDude

#8
Oh, I was gonna type one up myself, but then I thought, "Google" and found one.
If it's wrong in anyway, oops.
[spoiler=All missing dual types (maybe)]Bug/Dark
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Electric
Bug/Fire
Bug/Ice
Bug/Normal
Bug/Psychic
Dark/Dragon
Dark/Electric
Dark/Fighting
Dark/Ground
Dark/Normal
Dark/Psychic
Dark/Steel
Dragon/Electric
Dragon/Fighting
Dragon/Fire
Dragon/Grass
Dragon/Ice
Dragon/Normal
Dragon/Poison
Dragon/Rock
Electric/Fighting
Electric/Fire
Electric/Grass
Electric/Ground
Electric/Ice
Electric/Normal
Electric/Poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Normal
Fighting/Rock
Fire/Ghost
Fire/Grass
Fire/Ice
Fire/Normal
Fire/Poison
Fire/Psychic
Fire/Water
Ghost/Grass
Ghost/Ground
Ghost/Normal
Ghost/Psychic
Ghost/Rock
Ghost/Steel
Ghost/Water
Grass/Normal
Grass/Steel
Ground/Normal
Ice/Normal
Ice/Poison
Ice/Rock
Ice/Steel
Normal/Poison
Normal/Rock
Normal/Steel
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Steel
Flying
[/spoiler]
[move][/move]
Dude .

The Riddler

Quote from: JrDude ♦ on March 21, 2010, 12:40:34 AM
Oh, I was gonna type one up myself, but then I thought, "Google" and found one.
If it's wrong in anyway, oops.
[spoiler=All missing dual types (maybe)]Bug/Dark
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Electric
Bug/Fire
Bug/Ice
Bug/Normal
Bug/Psychic
Dark/Dragon
Dark/Electric
Dark/Fighting
Dark/Ground
Dark/Normal
Dark/Psychic
Dark/Steel
Dragon/Electric
Dragon/Fighting
Dragon/Fire
Dragon/Grass
Dragon/Ice
Dragon/Normal
Dragon/Poison
Dragon/Rock
Electric/Fighting
Electric/Fire
Electric/Grass
Electric/Ground
Electric/Ice
Electric/Normal
Electric/Poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Normal
Fighting/Rock
Fire/Ghost
Fire/Grass
Fire/Ice
Fire/Normal
Fire/Poison
Fire/Psychic
Fire/Water
Ghost/Grass
Ghost/Ground
Ghost/Normal
Ghost/Psychic
Ghost/Rock
Ghost/Steel
Ghost/Water
Grass/Normal
Grass/Steel
Ground/Normal
Ice/Normal
Ice/Poison
Ice/Rock
Ice/Steel
Normal/Poison
Normal/Rock
Normal/Steel
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Steel
Flying
[/spoiler]

;__________________________;

SkyMyl

#10
Funny, since my brother and I were just discussing how badass Dark/Psychic would be for a legendary.

Quote from: JrDude ♦ on March 21, 2010, 12:40:34 AM
Oh, I was gonna type one up myself, but then I thought, "Google" and found one.
If it's wrong in anyway, oops.
[spoiler=All missing dual types (maybe)]Bug/Dark
Bug/Dragon
Bug/Electric
Bug/Fire
Bug/Ice
Bug/Normal
Bug/Psychic
Dark/Dragon
Dark/Electric
Dark/Fighting
Dark/Ground
Dark/Normal
Dark/Psychic
Dark/Steel
Dragon/Electric
Dragon/Fighting
Dragon/Fire
Dragon/Grass
Dragon/Ice
Dragon/Normal
Dragon/Poison
Dragon/Rock
Electric/Fighting
Electric/Fire
Electric/Grass
Electric/Ground
Electric/Ice
Electric/Normal
Electric/Poison
Electric/Psychic
Electric/Rock
Fighting/Flying
Fighting/Ghost
Fighting/Ground
Fighting/Ice
Fighting/Normal
Fighting/Rock
Fire/Ghost
Fire/Grass
Fire/Ice
Fire/Normal
Fire/Poison
Fire/Psychic
Fire/Water
Ghost/Grass
Ghost/Ground
Ghost/Normal
Ghost/Psychic
Ghost/Rock
Ghost/Steel
Ghost/Water
Grass/Normal
Grass/Steel
Ground/Normal
Ice/Normal
Ice/Poison
Ice/Rock
Ice/Steel
Normal/Poison
Normal/Rock
Normal/Steel
Poison/Psychic
Poison/Rock
Poison/Steel
Flying
[/spoiler]
Dark/Dragon sounds pretty badass.

Neerb

Am I the only one extremely annoyed by the fact that we have yet to get a Fire/Dragon? You'd think that would be the first one.

Anyway, I once drew up designs for an entire generation, and I figured that the non-uber trio this time around could be Fire, Ice, and Electric Dragons. That would be sweet... I miss the Fire-Ice/Water-Lightning trios of previous gens.

Zero

Quote from: Caveman on March 21, 2010, 12:20:10 AM
Incorrect. Dark resists Ghost. Psychic is weak to Ghost. 1/2 x 2 = 1.

wow fml i'm stupid late at night

The Riddler

#13
Quote from: SmashBro25 on March 21, 2010, 10:19:58 AM
Am I the only one extremely annoyed by the fact that we have yet to get a Fire/Dragon? You'd think that would be the first one.

Anyway, I once drew up designs for an entire generation, and I figured that the non-uber trio this time around could be Fire, Ice, and Electric Dragons. That would be sweet... I miss the Fire-Ice/Water-Lightning trios of previous gens.
The Lake trio sucked. All Psychic? :|
I like Fire/Ice/Electric dragons.
I'll bang out these weaknesses now.

[spoiler=Dragon/Fire]
2x Dragon
2x Rock
2x Ground
1/2x Bug
1/2x Steel
1/2x Electric
1/4x Fire
1/4x Grass[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Dragon/Ice]
2x Dragon
2x Fighting
2x Rock
2x Steel
1/2x Electric
1/2x Grass
1/2x Water[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Dragon/Electric]
2x Dragon
2x Ice
2x Ground
1/2x Fire
1/2x Grass
1/2x Water
1/2x Flying
1/2x Steel
1/4x Electric[/spoiler]

They seem rather unbalanced amongst eachother, to me.

Neerb

Unbalanced, but I wouldn't say game-breakingly so. Could be worse; it could be that one of them is OU whilst both others are almost entirely useless due to half of their health being blown away by Stealth Rock [cough]birds[/cough].