So we have our answer from the GDC: there will be no downloadable content. Why? Because the Wii doesn't have a hard drive. -_-'
+ Sakurai wanted voice chat in, but there were some Nintendo restrictions. He suggests Skype.
+ The reasons why there aren't any more 3rd parties are because no other companies came forward with they're characters, and Sakurai didn't want to overly upset the gamers who didn't want third parties in the first place (I hope their happy).
+ It's possible that a Smash DS will exist, but Sakurai won't be in charge of it.
+ If there is a Smash sequel, then it would have to bring something new to the table if Sakurai is going to work on it. He has ideas, it seems.
+ Sakurai worked to make the game as balanced and fair as possible. Also, online was designed so people wouldn't have "psychologically damaging" experiences...
http://wii.ign.com/articles/853/853748p1.html
Huh.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
So we have our answer from the GDC: there will be no downloadable content. Why? Because the Wii doesn't have a hard drive. -_-'
+ Sakurai wanted voice chat in, but there were some silly Nintendo restrictions. He suggests Skype.
+ The reasons why there aren't any more 3rd parties are because no other companies came forward with their characters, and Sakurai didn't want to overly upset the gamers who didn't want third parties in the first place (I hope their happy).
+ It's possible that a Smash DS will exist, but Sakurai won't be in charge of it.
+ If there is a Smash sequel, then it would have to bring something new to the table if Sakurai is going to work on it. He has ideas, it seems.
+ Sakurai worked to make the game as balanced and fair as possible. Also, online was designed so people wouldn't have "psychologically damaging" experiences...
http://wii.ign.com/articles/853/853748p1.html
Huh.
That part made me, "LOL" ! :D
Sakurai seems like that he hates some of the restrictions put on by Nintendo. Also, I hope those people who didn't want 3rd parties are happy. :robotangry:
Also, does he mean like having inappropriate emblems like in MKDS?
Also, Wiiware is coming Nintendo. WHERE'S OUR SECONDARY STORAGE OPTION?
Well, there goes Mr. Namco AND Mr. Atari. :(
If Sakurai has Ideas for smash that he hasn't already incorperated, chances are, those ideas are gonna grow and eventually lead to another smash game.
Quote from: Shujinco on February 20, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
Well, there goes Mr. Namco AND Mr. Atari. :(
If Sakurai has Ideas for smash that he hasn't already incorperated, chances are, those ideas are gonna grow and eventually lead to another smash game.
YES!
and NO!
Roy...:(
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 20, 2008, 08:38:48 PM
Sakurai seems like that he hates some of the restrictions put on by Nintendo. Also, I hope those people who didn't want 3rd parties are happy. :robotangry: Yeah... he seems slightly annoyed by Nintendo.
Also, does he mean like having inappropriate emblems like in MKDS? I think he means they way 'With Anyone" is set up in terms of taunts and such. Also, that's the reason why online rankings son't exist.
Also, Wiiware is coming Nintendo. WHERE'S OUR SECONDARY STORAGE OPTION? I wonder if SD Cards are to remain then...
Well on the bright side, at least Sakurai is free to develop for th PS3. ^_^
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:41:56 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on February 20, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
Well, there goes Mr. Namco AND Mr. Atari. :(
If Sakurai has Ideas for smash that he hasn't already incorperated, chances are, those ideas are gonna grow and eventually lead to another smash game.
YES!
and NO!
Roy...:(
Le Roy est mort....
But you know Nintendo will trick Sakurai into making another Smash game...
He said he already has ideas. But we need a harddrive. Wii won't be able to make it past 2009 without a HDD.
This was all pretty obvious, but I find it worse when the developer comes out and says it. I guess it's a little sliver of hope deep inside of me that I refuse to except that gets shot when it is officially de-confirmed.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 20, 2008, 08:38:48 PM
Sakurai seems like that he hates some of the restrictions put on by Nintendo. Also, I hope those people who didn't want 3rd parties are happy. :robotangry: Yeah... he seems slightly annoyed by Nintendo.
Also, does he mean like having inappropriate emblems like in MKDS? I think he means they way 'With Anyone" is set up in terms of taunts and such. Also, that's the reason why online rankings son't exist.
Also, Wiiware is coming Nintendo. WHERE'S OUR SECONDARY STORAGE OPTION? I wonder if SD Cards are to remain then...
Well on the bright side, at least Sakurai is free to develop for th PS3. ^_^
Super Sony Bros. please.
is wiiware like a memory card?
I dunno...
and @ Ninnin...
wha?
Sakurai is with sony now?!
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
is wiiware like a memory card?
I dunno...
and @ Ninnin...
wha?
Sakurai is with sony now?!
Wiiware is like the VC except for new games. There's one called Pokemon Farm, as well as many others announced at GDC.
Sakurai is with Sora. He could make games for ANY platform he wanted.
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 20, 2008, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
is wiiware like a memory card?
I dunno...
and @ Ninnin...
wha?
Sakurai is with sony now?!
Wiiware is like the VC except for new games. There's one called Pokemon Farm, as well as many others announced at GDC.
Sakurai is with Sora. He could make games for ANY platform he wanted.
i see... but Sakukurai will probably stick with Nintendo...
so this means kirby series can continue! :D
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:52:18 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 20, 2008, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
is wiiware like a memory card?
I dunno...
and @ Ninnin...
wha?
Sakurai is with sony now?!
Wiiware is like the VC except for new games. There's one called Pokemon Farm, as well as many others announced at GDC.
Sakurai is with Sora. He could make games for ANY platform he wanted.
i see... but Sakukurai will probably stick with Nintendo...
so this means kirby series can continue! :D
Yep.
Hopefully Sakurai starts working on Kirby Wii after this.
I think it's been confirmed.
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 20, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
is wiiware like a memory card?
I dunno...
and @ Ninnin...
wha?
Sakurai is with sony now?!
Wiiware is like the Virtual Console, only with all new games.
Sakurai stated that he wouldn't be developing solely for Nintendo. I'm sure most of his games will be for Nintendo, but he will work for whoever comes to him with a great idea. :O Maybe Sakurai will help with Final Fantasy since they helped out with Brawl. Oh yes...
Tuppy beat me. D:
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
1. No one "fits"
2. Sakurai doesn't seem to listen to whom people actually want in quite a few regards... Only about half the newcomers were ones a lot of people actually wanted... And yet some VERY popular characters didn't seem to stand a chance to begin with (Krystal, Sigurd, and some others).
Once again Nintendo just does whatever they feel like doing X_X;;
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
Lol, R.O.B. ??
" O K "
>__>
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
1. No one "fits"
2. Sakurai doesn't seem to listen to whom people actually want in quite a few regards... Only about half the newcomers were ones a lot of people actually wanted... And yet some VERY popular characters didn't seem to stand a chance to begin with (Krystal, Sigurd, and some others).
Once again Nintendo just does whatever they feel like doing X_X;;
Yeah... but look on the bright side - all of that hard work and poor Sakurai is disappointed with the game. :'(
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 09:02:20 PM
Lol, R.O.B. ??
" O K "
>__>
I don't get it either, but that's what he said.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
lolwut
WE NEED 3 SPACE ANIMALS WITHOUT ANY MOVESET SO WE CAN CREATE ONE FOR THEM!
but sir, we have a multitude of other candidates that have easy movesets to implement! Look at Ridl-
NO TIME FOR SUCH QUESTIONS, I HAVE JUST GRABBED A SMASH BALL. CLONES FOR ALL! I LOVE STAR FOX SO MUCH, WE MUST HAVE IT INJUSTLY OVERREPRESENTED! GO ON, DO IT! NOW, SLAVES!
Quote from: Jono2 on February 20, 2008, 09:06:14 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
He said that it wasn't about stockpiling the game full of characters... they had to choose the right characters and worlds to be represented. Who would best fit in, so to speak.
lolwut
WE NEED 3 SPACE ANIMALS WITHOUT ANY MOVESET SO WE CAN CREATE ONE FOR THEM!
but sir, we have a multitude of other candidates that have easy movesets to implement! Look at Ridl-
NO TIME FOR SUCH QUESTIONS, I HAVE JUST GRABBED A SMASH BALL. CLONES FOR ALL! I LOVE STAR FOX SO MUCH, WE MUST HAVE IT INJUSTLY OVERREPRESENTED! GO ON, DO IT! NOW, SLAVES!
I LOVES MAH LANDMASTAS!!!
yea, he did sound a bit dissappointed in the interview on IGN. It sounds like he didn't quite get to to everything he wanted in this game. Probably just a ploy Nintendo did to try and coax one more out of him in the future....
still, how could they not allow voice chat for friends? I mean, they do that for the freakin DS SO WHY NOT BRAWL!?
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Oh my, I suppose I am a bit of a purist, but we may have some issues.....please, don't get me started against third parties....they truly don't belong in.
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Oh my, I suppose I am a bit of a purist, but we may have some issues.....please, don't get me started against third parties....they truly don't belong in.
And yet ROB
is more deserving? Sonic has done more for Nintendo than that lousy peripheral ever will...
Hell, Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil has done more X_X;;;
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Oh my, I suppose I am a bit of a purist, but we may have some issues.....please, don't get me started against third parties....they truly don't belong in.
If you think the don't belong in, that's fine, but if they are going to be in at least do it right. @**&@!(@
I think the reason people don't want third parties is the ones that were chosen truly don't belong: Snake, who appeared on NES, vanished for over decade, then reappeared in a GameCube remake, and Sonic, who didn't even originate on a Nintendo system and whose purpose for years was to destroy the Nintendo competition... Bomberman, Mega Man, and Pac Man (so many mans) all contributed to the greatness that is Nintendo (Pac Man less than some) in their own special way... they grew up on Nintendo and are most notable for the roles they played on Nintendo systems (again, Pac Man less than others). Bomberman 64... Mega Man 3 & Mega Man X... again, Pac Man less than others, but Namco has always stuck by Nintendo. And then there are Metal Gear Solid, Snake's PlayStation claim to fame, and Sonic 2, which tried to "take care" of our little Italian plumber's success. OH THE HUMANITY OF IT ALL!
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Oh my, I suppose I am a bit of a purist, but we may have some issues.....please, don't get me started against third parties....they truly don't belong in.
ya know, there's a reason why it's called super smash bros. *cough nintendo created characters cough*
for the people that wanted tails, knuckles, shadow, amy, megaman, etc. you're missing the point of super smash bros. it also bothers me that some people are only getting the game just to play as sonic. they just wanted all the sonic characters to be in cuz sonic's recent games were so suckish.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 20, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
ya know, there's a reason why it's called super smash bros. *cough nintendo created characters cough*
...I don't see the reason why it's called Super Smash Bros. Nintendo is mentioned nowhere in the name.
Quote
for the people that wanted tails, knuckles, shadow, amy, megaman, etc. you're missing the point of super smash bros.
Which is for Nintendo All Stars to duke it out. Mega Man, whose first 12 games were Nintendo exclusives, one of which a bestseller, is far more important to Nintendo's history than R.O.B. and
many first and second parties.
Quoteit also bothers me that some people are only getting the game just to play as sonic. they just wanted all the sonic characters to be in cuz sonic's recent games were so suckish.
2 things: 1) Why would it bother you if someone wants the game for different reasons than yourself? 2) Your logic eludes me. If it didn't, it would probably appall me. The reason Sonic was wanted in, by people who had sense anyway, was to bring about one of the gaming universe's greatest battles: The Battle of Mario and Sonic. Up there with the Battle of Link and Cloud.
I still have to admit, I want to see Nintendo's all stars in a game. If I wanted to see Sega's, I would go buy Super Star Tennis. That is the point, and third parties (especially ones like Snake) that have LITTLE/few links to Nintendo appall me, to be honest. Megaman..I wouldn't have AS much as an issue with, due to his roots.
Back on topic: This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but the sequel notes are quite unexpected!
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:51:48 PM
I still have to admit, I want to see Nintendo's all stars in a game. If I wanted to see Sega's, I would go buy Super Star Tennis. That is the point, and third parties (especially ones like Snake) that have LITTLE/few links to Nintendo appall me, to be honest. Megaman..I wouldn't have AS much as an issue with, due to his roots.
Back on topic: This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but the sequel notes are quite unexpected!
You do know Sega does more for Nintendo than pretty much any third party the last six or so years right?
Not to mention there are TONS of third parties more worthy than ROB
Quote from: tibar7 on February 20, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
Tolda ya that no hard drive would kill it.
Of course, Nintedo doesn't allow ANYTHING even remotley USEFUL for online. VOICE CHAT IS NECESSARY NINTENDO!!!
LEARN HOW TO DO ONLINE YA SCHMUCKS!
*face palms*
I personally want to choke those who feel that adding too many 3rd party characters
would do the game injustice...
Not only 3rd party character, but other Nintendo based characters...
Um, what was his reasons for not adding more Nintendo based characters again?
Lame.
In this interview, some things I understood/agreed on while others I did not.
Oh my, I suppose I am a bit of a purist, but we may have some issues.....please, don't get me started against third parties....they truly don't belong in.
ya know, there's a reason why it's called super smash bros. *cough nintendo created characters cough*
for the people that wanted tails, knuckles, shadow, amy, megaman, etc. you're missing the point of super smash bros. it also bothers me that some people are only getting the game just to play as sonic. they just wanted all the sonic characters to be in cuz sonic's recent games were so suckish.
0_0 !!!!!!!
WHAT!?
OH NO YOU DID NOT JUST................ *dies a little*
You have Got to be kidding me, are you serious, are you for real?
Please, don't Even bring up that lame reason as to why Sonic is in SSBB because his games aren't as good.
For 1 that is a matter of Opinion
and for 2, "Money Talks"
*makes everybody sit down*
And this is directed to you too MoM. :P
*cracks knuckles*
2 issues, I'll tackle...
this post makers POST
and the addition of 3rd parties.
*They both tie together anyway).
What does the majority of people want to see?
Sonic Vs. Mario....... NINTENDO Vs. Sega! We have an instant classic case of 2 titans going head to head
with there Top Mascots duking it out...and what BETTER Video game to stage such a colossal event?
Super Smash Bros. in general.
Sonic is THE # 1 most wanted 3rd party video game character, To deny that is simply foolish beyond anything compared!
Sonic is popular by his own right and many many people always wanted to see Sonic fight Mario. NO, I'm not talking about that
Mario Party Rip off "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games" PFFT! Thats a spin off as far as I'm concerned.
And also think, Video games in general are NOT in the market JUST to make people happy. Oh no indeed no... Video games make a lot of money...
And..uh..correct me if I'm ever so wrong but what would sell more?
Super Smash Bros. Brawl with No 3rd party characters (which leads me to the 2nd issue) OR Super Smash Bros. Brawl with a couple of 3rd party characters?
Come on, More Sega Maniacs and Metal Gear Solid Fan's would be interested in buying a Nintendo Wii with SSBB then if SSBB only had pure Nintendo Characters. It's ALL about the money, and after all, If I was the creator of SSBB if I seen that a lot of people would want me to add certain characters in, I would do it... NOT only to make them happy but to make the game I worked SO hard on sell extremely well. AND to also cause a lot of controversy... and trust me controversy in video games is a good thing when done right...........and "this" was done right.
Sonic in SSBB was key to making SSBB sell wayyyy more then if Sonic was not in. Though that is a matter of opinion the Vast Majority of Smash fanatics
All over would agree. ^__^
Sonic is needed, he's in and there is nothing anybody can do about it... *directed to the Sonic Nay Sayers of Old*.
And so, if people want to get SSBB just to play as Sonic, let it be done then. Maybe when SSB or SSBM was in it's prime, Smashers wished, they day dreamed, they eagerly wanted SO Bad for Sonic to be a playable character cause they felt it would be Awesome. NOW their dreams come true, and I don't blame them at all if Sonic is the soul reason why they are buying SSBB.
______________________________________________________________
As I said, The more characters that people want in SSBB, the more it's going to sell.
And as I said also, Controversy is a good thing when done right.
Need I mention that April Fools Joke about Sonic being in SSBM if you Did...something......eh, I'm not exactly sure what the rumor
was but trust me when I say that Smash Fans went crazy for good while there.
Sonic and Snake being in SSBB is going to help SSBB sell more, it's going to HELP Wii's sell more.
It's going to make the creator of SSBB Very very rich...
Not only that, but Sega as well........and Snakes franchise I suppose (meh) *shrugs*.
Mr. Sakurai did what he did about 3rd party characters because it's what the majority wanted.
And the majority of people is going to buy this precious highly anticipated game over the minority, every single time.
Do Not get me wrong however, in the thought that SSB's in general could of stayed solely to Nintendo characters,
but adding 3rd parties to this game just brings "MORE" to SSB's ....
It add's a unique feeling that makes me want this game Even more so then if no 3rd party characters was just in.
Even though everything I said is merely my opinion, I say, and I will always say that I speak for the grand majority about
Smashers everywhere being very happy if not "happy enough" ABOUT 3rd party characters being in SSBB. If anything
I bet the majority would want more 3rd party characters if they had the chance.
Money, satisfying customers, Most wanted video game in North America........surly 3rd party characters being in did not hinder
these results/actions...if anything it only made it better.
*class bell rings*
Ok,
You may all go now.
^_^
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:51:48 PM
I still have to admit, I want to see Nintendo's all stars in a game. If I wanted to see Sega's, I would go buy Super Star Tennis. That is the point, and third parties (especially ones like Snake) that have LITTLE/few links to Nintendo appall me, to be honest. Megaman..I wouldn't have AS much as an issue with, due to his roots.
Back on topic: This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but the sequel notes are quite unexpected!
You do know Sega does more for Nintendo than pretty much any third party the last six or so years right?
Not to mention there are TONS of third parties more worthy than ROB
The issue here is not ROB, at ALL. It was never brought up by me, and it doesn't really concern me. To be honest, I like the fact that Sakurai is adding another touch of Nintendo History to the game. G+W was the heritage (Rest easy Gunpei), and now ROB is being added to the mix as a tribute to when Nintendo cared about
gamersIn fact, that is what this game is about, caring about the gamers. Once again, this is the reason I haven't bellyached about third parties, as this is the first Nintendo game in a long time to be made for
us while still appealing to new gamers. That is what it comes down to, not your favorite characters absence, not third parties, and not legacy...it comes down to the gamer themselves.
Quote from: Nayrman on February 20, 2008, 09:54:54 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on February 20, 2008, 09:51:48 PM
I still have to admit, I want to see Nintendo's all stars in a game. If I wanted to see Sega's, I would go buy Super Star Tennis. That is the point, and third parties (especially ones like Snake) that have LITTLE/few links to Nintendo appall me, to be honest. Megaman..I wouldn't have AS much as an issue with, due to his roots.
Back on topic: This doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but the sequel notes are quite unexpected!
You do know Sega does more for Nintendo than pretty much any third party the last six or so years right?
Not to mention there are TONS of third parties more worthy than ROB
I wouldn't say tons... I've always felt that the most deserving, due the character's significance and the mother company's relationship to Nintendo, were Pac Man, Bomberman, Mega Man, and Sonic. Pac Man was the first video game personality and is Namco's mascot. Sonic was Mario's legendary rival and is SEGA's mascot. Namco and SEGA are Nintendo's most significant 3rd party, and frequently second party, companies. Bomberman and Mega Man are as important to Nintendo's history as the Fire Emblem or Mother crews. Geno and Square Enix are kind of meh since Squeenix is partially owned by Sony.
Wait, how did this topic arise? Oh yeah...
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
But that's such a long post... ::)
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
But that's such a long post... ::)
And? Sonic can't jump high and neither he can wall jump or be Ice Mario!
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 20, 2008, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
But that's such a long post... ::)
And? Sonic can't jump high and neither he can wall jump or be Ice Mario!
Wall jumping and being ice mario isn't part of the Olympics.
My name was "f***tard" on Mario Strikers.
I think I might of been part of the problem.
EDIT: That's a bunch of bulls***. If the reason for the lack of leaderboards was that they didn't want it to be too competitive then why not just add a non ranked mode AND a ranked mode? Like uh, all the other online games have.
Also, the fact that he says that he wants it to be a good experience for first time online gamers pretty much shows Nintendo has stopped giving a dang about it's hardcore fanbase
haha the dedede part is great
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
ahhh...the days of mario and sonic....good times. and its still not over ;)
i'm happy with Sonic and Snake being in brawl, but if they put in tails, knuckles, amy and all that sh*t it would have been ridiculous. it's so annoying how all the sonic fanboys are getting the game for the wrong reason. i understand it makes a sh*tload of money and that's a good thing, but it just boggles my mind. The only good thing that could come out of this is if people playing as sonic get interested with other things from nintendo.
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
Why was
I not consulted about this!?
At least we know a sequel is coming in some way.
Even if it will probably be in like 2015.
Quote from: Nayrman on February 21, 2008, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on February 20, 2008, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on February 20, 2008, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on February 20, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Why is everybody making such a big deal of rivalry with Nintendo and Sega? Please tell me you people weren't hoping for years that you'd get to see specifically Mario and Sonic in a fighting game so they can settle their rivalry once and for all in hand to hand combat. Look at Mario and Sonic Olympics! That game turned out to be pure crap. What's the point of Sonic racing Mario if Sonic is obviously faster? Sonic only got into Brawl due to his popularity and the success of his games, although I have heard the Sonic games are getting worse in the ratings. The old Sonic games were the best though.
If you don't understand the importance of Mario and Sonic to do battle, then it is futile for me to attempt to explain it to you. Imagine the console wars of today, only much more decisive; Mario and Sonic were the figureheads of their respective companies and it was understood that "neither can live while the other survives"... it's just an important concept, okay? I have a homework assignment due in less than 30 minutes, so I don't have time to explain it to you. StarWind can do it, or anyone else who lived during the Sonic & Mario wars.
pfft!
I already done it, now it's up to them to read it and actually comprehend it. ::)
Why was I not consulted about this!?
Sonic's fans who have a sig of Sonic suddenly swimming in the water and smirking are not allowed. :D ;D :| :| :D
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 21, 2008, 06:11:33 PM
At least we know a sequel is coming in some way.
Even if it will probably be in like 2015.
what sequel?
Quote from: tibar7 on February 21, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on February 21, 2008, 06:11:33 PM
At least we know a sequel is coming in some way.
Even if it will probably be in like 2015.
what sequel?
Sakurai said he already has ideas in mind and is probably gonna give them to Nintendo to make Smash Bros on a handheld or something.