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Title: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:27:34 AM
Coming from new impressions from Destructoid. Here's most of the important stuff:

Most of the characters that were from previous Smashes all had the same basic moves. Some had extra animations, for instance, now when Bowser swipes at you, he'll jump into the air with you and do a body slam.

Another change is the fact that you can catch items that are thrown at you. You could do this in the previous Smash, but it was extremely hard to time it right. It's much easier to do it in Brawl now though.

if you do a dodge in the air, you can still do a jump afterwards.

    *  The bumper is back and is more annoying than ever.
    * The energy sword is now blue instead of pink.
    * There's now a Spring Jump pad (like the Spring Jumps from the Mario series).
    * Screw Attack will stick to your chest so you can grab another item and still use the Screw Attack.
    * There's an item that looks like a poker chip with the letter B on it. It's a bomb and will easily inflict 70% damage onto you if you get hit with it.
    * There's an item that sticks to you and shoots out fireballs for about half a minute.
    * There's an item that looks like a cross between a Thwomp and a Spiker. You can pick it up and throw it at people.

    * Metroid. Yes, a ****ing Metroid! It will attack whoever is close, latch onto them and suck their energy out.
    * Little Mac. The classic Punch-Out fighter will run around the map boxing whoever he can.
    * Drill Dozer. From the highly underrated game comes Drill Dozer as she Drills people.
    * Sin and Punishment character. She shoots and slashes at whoever is closest to her.

Peach's Final Smash causes the camera to just zoom in on her while a couple of graphics from the Peach DS game come on the screen. When the camera zooms out, your opponents have fallen to sleep and dozens of peaches have appeared for you to eat and regain health with.

Ike's Final Smash is identical to Link's Final Smash. Ike will slash at you several times and then knock you into the sky or off of the stage with his sword.

Meta Knight will grab his opponents and just do a slash at whoever gets trapped by him which usually results in an instant K.O.

"Zero Suit Samus's Final Smash is just getting her suit back and also radiating a lot of energy around her that will hurt you, but won't do significant damage."



Source: http://www.destructoid.com/hands-on-with-super-smash-bros-brawl-48983.phtml
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: X-3 on October 14, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
A Sin and Punichment character? 0_o That might hint at something...

Ike's FS is dissapointing. I would have liked to see him go beserk and atatck everyone. :\
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Tupin on October 14, 2007, 10:44:39 AM
Cool, Little Mac. Yay for ATs!
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Mystic on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: X-3 on October 14, 2007, 10:48:32 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

I think the second is Latios and Latias.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias/ Dialga and Palkia
Torchic
Piplup
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Mystic on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 10:54:54 AM
In the article it also says:

"Zero Suit Samus's Final Smash is just getting her suit back and also radiating a lot of energy around her that will hurt you, but won't do significant damage."
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
The green dinosaur is most likely Chikorita. I don't remember Bayleef in Melee and Chikorita was already shown anyway.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball01/mball01_070605c.jpg)


And the penguin seems to be Piplup:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b-l.jpg)
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:54:54 AM
In the article it also says:

"Zero Suit Samus's Final Smash is just getting her suit back and also radiating a lot of energy around her that will hurt you, but won't do significant damage."

I added that. Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:54:54 AM
In the article it also says:

"Zero Suit Samus's Final Smash is just getting her suit back and also radiating a lot of energy around her that will hurt you, but won't do significant damage."

I added that. Thanks for pointing it out.
No problem

Oh and I forgot to thank you because you indirectly found the source for Meta Knight's Final Smash. XD
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Mystic on October 14, 2007, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
The green dinosaur is most likely Chikorita. I don't remember Bayleef in Melee and Chikorita was already shown anyway.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball01/mball01_070605c.jpg)


And the penguin seems to be Piplup:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b-l.jpg)
Oh, my bad  :(
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Ridley on October 14, 2007, 11:01:24 AM
Wow hope to see some youtube videos soon
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
The green dinosaur is most likely Chikorita. I don't remember Bayleef in Melee and Chikorita was already shown anyway.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball01/mball01_070605c.jpg)


And the penguin seems to be Piplup:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b-l.jpg)
Oh, my bad  :(
Haha. It's okay.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: X-3 on October 14, 2007, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
The green dinosaur is most likely Chikorita. I don't remember Bayleef in Melee and Chikorita was already shown anyway.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball01/mball01_070605c.jpg)


And the penguin seems to be Piplup:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b-l.jpg)

Piplup doesn't "throw ice", it seems. He crashes into people.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:54:54 AM
In the article it also says:

"Zero Suit Samus's Final Smash is just getting her suit back and also radiating a lot of energy around her that will hurt you, but won't do significant damage."

I added that. Thanks for pointing it out.
No problem

Oh and I forgot to thank you because you indirectly found the source for Meta Knight's Final Smash. XD

:D

Indirect problem solving. Woot. :P
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: X-3 on October 14, 2007, 11:07:22 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
The green dinosaur is most likely Chikorita. I don't remember Bayleef in Melee and Chikorita was already shown anyway.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball01/mball01_070605c.jpg)


And the penguin seems to be Piplup:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/images/mball05/mball05_070920b-l.jpg)

Piplup doesn't "throw ice", it seems. He crashes into people.
I guess that's true.

I just wonder how many "penguin" Pokemon would be in Brawl.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Cornwad on October 14, 2007, 12:51:29 PM
I think the two metallic birds are Latios and Latias,
The penguin is probably Delibird
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: LightShock on October 14, 2007, 12:58:25 PM
Wow koopa Bros thank you soooo much for this indirect info! :O:P

*gives imaginary karma*

Now i want to see vids badly :(
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
I didn't know what Delibird looked like so I looked for a picture and this is what I found:

(http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/Pokemon/PokemonDelibird.gif)

I guess it could be that.

Although I read it could do "Present" which would seem like a better idea than throwing ice.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Cornwad on October 14, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
I didn't know what Delibird looked like so I looked for a picture and this is what I found:

(http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/Pokemon/PokemonDelibird.gif)

I guess it could be that.

Although I read it could do "Present" which would seem like a better idea than throwing ice.
Well Delibird is an ice type...
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 01:17:14 PM
Quote from: LightShock on October 14, 2007, 12:58:25 PM
Wow koopa Bros thank you soooo much for this indirect info! :O:P

*gives imaginary karma*

Now i want to see vids badly :(


Woot. :D

Yeah, must have more videos...

I'm sure some will pop up at E for all though. :D
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Triforceman22 on October 14, 2007, 01:38:17 PM
W00T!

Beam sword looks like a lightsaber now!

"Luigi, I am your brother!"

Can't wait to say that when mario gets one. :D
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Geno on October 14, 2007, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
I was thinking Turtwig  ???
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Java on October 14, 2007, 03:29:21 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on October 14, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on October 14, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
I didn't know what Delibird looked like so I looked for a picture and this is what I found:

(http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/Pokemon/PokemonDelibird.gif)

I guess it could be that.

Although I read it could do "Present" which would seem like a better idea than throwing ice.
Well Delibird is an ice type...
But any character can throw ice.

Give Pika a block of ice and it can throw it.

It takes skill to throw a present out of a sack.  :P
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Gwen Khan on October 14, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Geno on October 14, 2007, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 14, 2007, 10:47:23 AM
   " * A giant blue whale that can fly. It shoots out water.
    * Two metallic looking birds. One was blue, one was pinkish. They each come from either side of the screen and I guess use Tackle Attack on whoever gets caught in their attack. It's actually pretty strong and hard to get out of it.
    * A little chicken that's on fire: It uses Flame Thrower attack.
    * A penguin. It uses Ice ... Thrower attack."

Kyogre
(Dunno this one)
Torchic
Delibird

Actually I believe its:

Kyogre
Latios and Latias
Torchic
Piplup
Latios and Latias, yes...that makes sense.

I guess the penguin could be either Piplup or Delibird.

"I also spotted a few old ones like the green dinosaur with a leaf on it's head and Snorlax."

Green dinosaur = Chikorita or Bayleef
I was thinking Turtwig  ???

me too, also thanks  TheKoopaBros. for the list of all the new stuff
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: JrDude on October 14, 2007, 10:13:25 PM
uhh, there's only 1 smash ball and ZS Samus can't be a chosen character, and when Samus uses the smash ball, there's no more smash balls (repeated for some odd reason), so the ZS Samus is obviously fake
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: JrDude on October 14, 2007, 10:13:25 PM
uhh, there's only 1 smash ball and ZS Samus can't be a chosen character, and when Samus uses the smash ball, there's no more smash balls (repeated for some odd reason), so the ZS Samus is obviously fake

Where's your proof? I've seen videos today and yesterday where 2 smash balls have shown up in a single match.

I never said ZSS was a selectable character.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Ridley on October 15, 2007, 04:55:54 AM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on October 14, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: JrDude on October 14, 2007, 10:13:25 PM
uhh, there's only 1 smash ball and ZS Samus can't be a chosen character, and when Samus uses the smash ball, there's no more smash balls (repeated for some odd reason), so the ZS Samus is obviously fake

Where's your proof? I've seen videos today and yesterday where 2 smash balls have shown up in a single match.

I never said ZSS was a selectable character.

Yeah I saw those too. You are able to get more than one
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Ikkitrix on October 15, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
Yet they didn't confirm wavedashing or L cancelling. How useless... Guess I'll have to wait until actual smashers play it at E for All.
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: DarkLink49 on October 15, 2007, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: Ikkitrix on October 15, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
Yet they didn't confirm wavedashing or L cancelling. How useless... Guess I'll have to wait until actual smashers play it at E for All.
actually i saw a video of ppl playing the demo and i saw some wavedashing
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Ikkitrix on October 15, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Link to it. Now. <<
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: -Hell Skater- on October 15, 2007, 05:33:46 PM
Aw sick the bumpers in.  I love that thing :P

-HS-
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: DarkLink49 on October 15, 2007, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: Ikkitrix on October 15, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
Link to it. Now. <<

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfxo4ThurUw

at 48 seconds it seems bowser is wavedashing and im pretty sure i saw others wave dashing in the video as well, but i dont know the times
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Daft Pink on October 15, 2007, 09:13:51 PM
Thanks for the info. ;D
Title: Re: New Brawl info!
Post by: Ridley on October 16, 2007, 04:20:00 AM
Yeah good stuff