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Title: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Linkman on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
I hate that song called "Soulja Boy"

Am I the only person in the world that does?
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Tupin on December 08, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
It's common on the internet, but I NEVER hear ANYONE bash mainstream rap in the real world. :robotsad:
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Linkman on December 08, 2007, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
It's common on the internet, but I NEVER hear ANYONE bash mainstream rap in the real world. :robotsad:
I hate rap completely.....
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Riosan on December 08, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
It's common on the internet, but I NEVER hear ANYONE bash mainstream rap in the real world. :robotsad:

I gladly say that I hate rap at my school.

And I don't care if anyone thinks I have no taste. :)
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Kaz on December 08, 2007, 02:29:13 PM
It's an embarassment to music.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Gwen Khan on December 08, 2007, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
It's common on the internet, but I NEVER hear ANYONE bash mainstream rap in the real world. :robotsad:
I hate rap completely.....

I also make my intense hatetred of rap known
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: RosettaStoned on December 08, 2007, 05:56:34 PM
Rap FTL.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: yes.derek on December 09, 2007, 01:11:07 PM
I started out liking it, but after hearing it every day for about 5 months, it kind of starts getting a little old.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Jono2 on December 09, 2007, 01:29:45 PM
Oh, god.  I hate that song. :|

Anything but that.

All other songs > Rap > CRANK DAT SOULJA BOY > Country Music.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: RosettaStoned on December 09, 2007, 01:30:46 PM
Actually:

Rock > Run DMC > All other songs > Country > Soulja Boy
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Qsmash on December 10, 2007, 04:20:28 PM
It's alright...
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: RedYoshi on December 10, 2007, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
I hate that song called "Soulja Boy"

Am I the only person in the world that does?

I'm really tired of that song.

My English teacher did the dance during class one day. >_<
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Water ☮ on December 10, 2007, 07:53:43 PM
I hate hip-hop but not rap for example poetic rappers acctually have meanings in thier songs and don't really talk about how much better they are then everyone else or having sex with some stupid whore.....lol and I'm black :P
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Triforce_Luigi on December 10, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
I hate rap...
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Linkman on December 12, 2007, 07:38:14 PM
I am not alone YES!!!
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Post by: GROUCHO THE MIGHTY on December 12, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
I hate almost all raps. there are only a few that dont suck. and thats it.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Java on December 15, 2007, 03:48:30 PM
Of course you're not.

"Crank That" is a disgrace to music and shouldn't even be called music.

I like some rap and hip-hop but not trash like Soulja Boy.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Silly_Penguin on December 15, 2007, 07:37:32 PM
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on December 10, 2007, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
I hate that song called "Soulja Boy"

Am I the only person in the world that does?

I'm really tired of that song.

My English teacher did the dance during class one day. >_<
i HATE that song....
o_O ....seriously? since my english teacher did that on halloween along with another teacher.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Linkman on December 15, 2007, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on December 15, 2007, 03:48:30 PM
Of course you're not.

"Crank That" is a disgrace to music and shouldn't even be called music.

I like some rap and hip-hop but not trash like Soulja Boy.
Amen
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: JMV on December 16, 2007, 02:09:19 AM
No, that song sucks.


listen to some real rap now. kthnx
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Qsmash on December 16, 2007, 10:59:08 AM
Lil'Wayne is better anyways. ::)
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Avion-Finch on December 16, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
its hilarious on youtube, but when it comes to kids in school CONSTANTLY singing it(you know who I'm talking about) it gets annoying.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: not famy on December 18, 2007, 09:21:28 PM
Quote from: RosettaStoned on December 09, 2007, 01:30:46 PM
Actually:

Rock > Run DMC > All other songs > Country > Soulja Boy
yay Run-D.M.C. fan
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: THEBIRD on December 22, 2007, 01:35:19 PM
Finally, someone else who hates Soulja Boy! I was annoyed how long this stayed #1, I think it sucks >.>.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Trini on December 22, 2007, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: darkmariov2 on December 09, 2007, 01:11:07 PM
I started out liking it, but after hearing it every day for about 5 months, it kind of starts getting a little old.
Not nearly as old and "No one" by Alicia Keys.  ::)
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: reborn07 on December 22, 2007, 04:47:22 PM
Soulja Boy was all right at first but after listing to it soo many times it just got boring.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Tahrann on December 22, 2007, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: GROUCHO THE MIGHTY on December 12, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
I hate almost all raps. there are only a few that dont suck. and thats it.

Same here.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Cecil_and_Kain on December 22, 2007, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on December 16, 2007, 02:09:19 AM
No, that song sucks.


listen to some real rap now. kthnx
It's not even rap. It's hip-hop.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Cardinal on December 25, 2007, 06:35:55 PM
It's a disgrace to the hip-hop/rap genre.

I hate it.
Give me aotp or weeeezy over that anyday.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Mario64 on December 26, 2007, 04:26:54 PM
 I don't even consider it music. I would rather listen to nails clawing down a chalkboard than that. The kids at my school just won't shut up when it is playing and is so freak'n annoying in bussines tech!!!
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: NIGHTSHADOW1313 on December 28, 2007, 10:41:29 AM
Honestly, Soulja Boy makes "The Sound of Music" look good. And I HATE that video.

But really, rap isn't much of a genre for music anyway. Maybe just poetic form set to beat/rhythm, but it's never truly "music." Music is: an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. (as defined by dictionary.com). Note the and following the list of what music conveys (rhythm, melody, harmony,  and color). If rap can only basically show form to rhythm and maybe melody, it still is missing 5 other elements to music (I know, I take piano lessons). Those would be form, timbre, texture, expression, and harmony. And may I add that the rap "genre" is VERY lacking in those aspects. Basically put them together to make one, you get the element that gives music it's distinctiveness, it's unique structure both internally and externally through harmonious or melodious sound. Why does rap not have this? I'll say it again, it's just poetic form set to beat/rhythm. I have heard soulja boy, and there are a few notes playing in the back to (I guess) a steel drum. But honestly, it's just three notes, the whole song. To make musical composition, you need to have a piece consisting of some type of structure. I am almost more than certain that we all know that these are also only considered the "back-up" notes, but what harmony is there to convey if you don't have a seperate melody? I may be referencing the romantic/baroque time period bit much, but honestly, music should have some translation between seperate time lines. It's the separate form given to musical pieces that give them their ability to be interpreted through different means of style, but honestly, for rap, it's always stuck in this most current time period, as it has no flavor, taste, or any reason to be considered music for that matter as I hope I have explained.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: whatwewishfor on December 28, 2007, 01:59:08 PM
No, I hear it everywhere I go.  It's really annoying.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: metroidhunter777 on December 28, 2007, 02:06:21 PM
This is amazing. This is exactly what I've been wanting to post for at least two months, but I could never find the words to say it. Kudos on being able to say this, because it's true.

@ Nightshadow1313
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Nils_13 on December 28, 2007, 10:00:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 10, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
I hate rap...
You're definitely not the only one...

I despise rap...
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: NIGHTSHADOW1313 on December 29, 2007, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: metroidhunter777 on December 28, 2007, 02:06:21 PM
This is amazing. This is exactly what I've been wanting to post for at least two months, but I could never find the words to say it. Kudos on being able to say this, because it's true.

@ Nightshadow1313

You're welcome. I've been trying a way to put it into some different perspective than what I do when I try to explain verbally as to how rap isn't music (I have a weird habit of being able to convey my thoughts better through typing/writing them, not saying). You're not the only one who's relieved.  ;)
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Lotos on December 29, 2007, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
Am I the only person in the world that does?

If you are, then President Bush has a high approval rating.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Gamemaster on December 31, 2007, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on December 08, 2007, 02:29:13 PM
It's an embarassment to music.
You call that stuff music.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Shujinco2 on January 02, 2008, 12:36:26 AM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
I hate that song called "Soulja Boy"

Am I the only person in the world that does?
OMG THANK YOU!

You are now promoted! ;D
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: JMV on January 03, 2008, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster on December 31, 2007, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on December 08, 2007, 02:29:13 PM
It's an embarassment to music.
You call that stuff music.
Rap is music as much as rock is.  Only a complete imbecile would claim otherwise.


Soulja Boy just sucks.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: JMV on January 03, 2008, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: NIGHTSHADOW1313 on December 28, 2007, 10:41:29 AM
Honestly, Soulja Boy makes "The Sound of Music" look good. And I HATE that video.

But really, rap isn't much of a genre for music anyway. Maybe just poetic form set to beat/rhythm, but it's never truly "music." Music is: an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. (as defined by dictionary.com). Note the and following the list of what music conveys (rhythm, melody, harmony,  and color). If rap can only basically show form to rhythm and maybe melody, it still is missing 5 other elements to music (I know, I take piano lessons). Those would be form, timbre, texture, expression, and harmony. And may I add that the rap "genre" is VERY lacking in those aspects. Basically put them together to make one, you get the element that gives music it's distinctiveness, it's unique structure both internally and externally through harmonious or melodious sound. Why does rap not have this? I'll say it again, it's just poetic form set to beat/rhythm. I have heard soulja boy, and there are a few notes playing in the back to (I guess) a steel drum. But honestly, it's just three notes, the whole song. To make musical composition, you need to have a piece consisting of some type of structure. I am almost more than certain that we all know that these are also only considered the "back-up" notes, but what harmony is there to convey if you don't have a seperate melody? I may be referencing the romantic/baroque time period bit much, but honestly, music should have some translation between seperate time lines. It's the separate form given to musical pieces that give them their ability to be interpreted through different means of style, but honestly, for rap, it's always stuck in this most current time period, as it has no flavor, taste, or any reason to be considered music for that matter as I hope I have explained.
Unless you are able to produce beats on the level of Stoupe, Necro, Southpaw, or any of the great producers I don't think you have the right to say what is music. also the site you cited also says rap is music http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rap%20music

Rhythm: Of course rap has that
Melody: Used, go listen to "Dance" or "War" by Nas for just 2 examples.
Harmony: As the link below states, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony utilize it(oh look its in their name)
Color: "Sound refers to aspects such as pitch, tone, timbre, dynamics, and several others."  Rap has that

http://www.collegetermpapers.com/TermPapers/Music/Musical_Characteristcs_of_Rap.shtml  Read that



but I understand you heard a whole song and play the piano so you are now an expert on a whole genre and its subgenres.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Linkman on January 03, 2008, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 02, 2008, 12:36:26 AM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:18:54 PM
I hate that song called "Soulja Boy"

Am I the only person in the world that does?
OMG THANK YOU!

You are now promoted! ;D
promoted?
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Tahrann on January 03, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on January 03, 2008, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster on December 31, 2007, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on December 08, 2007, 02:29:13 PM
It's an embarassment to music.
You call that stuff music.
Rap is music as much as rock is.  Only a complete imbecile would claim otherwise.


Soulja Boy just sucks.

Agreed.

Except I like metal much more than rap.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: JMV on January 04, 2008, 01:30:24 AM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 03, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on January 03, 2008, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster on December 31, 2007, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on December 08, 2007, 02:29:13 PM
It's an embarassment to music.
You call that stuff music.
Rap is music as much as rock is.  Only a complete imbecile would claim otherwise.


Soulja Boy just sucks.

Agreed.

Except I like metal much more than rap.
It's fine if some one doesn't like a genre, it really annoys me if they try claiming that it's not music or that the entire genre sucks.


I can't stand Snap (a subgenre of rap, which is home to the poop that many people complain about: Soulja Boy, D4L, Dem Franchize Boyz), it's probably some of the worst stuff I've heard, but that in no way defines the entire rap industry.

It's like me saying that country isn't music and it sucks because I don't like it.

Or me saying that Rock isn't music and it sucks because I hate some artists in a certain subgenre, it's stupid.   Using the transitive property also brings up some interesting and slightly humorous issues.


snap sucks and snap = rap, so rap sucks according to their logic.

but what about the genres that combine the two?  Rap Rock (rapcore), Acid Rap, death rap? with that logic

snap = rap = rapcore = rock so because snap sucks, rap sucks, so rapcore sucks, so rock sucks.
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: Oren on January 08, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
Quote from: Linkfan71 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:58 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on December 08, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
It's common on the internet, but I NEVER hear ANYONE bash mainstream rap in the real world. :robotsad:
I hate rap completely.....
i do too..
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: SHUTOKOU BATTLE 89 on January 08, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
I hate Soulja Boy with a passion. I mean, what happened to real rap/hip-hop? I'm into the classics like Run-DMC, Davy DMX, Mantronix, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, ETC.  People cant really dance these days. I mean, I'm a pop-locker and some people always say to me "Why dont you do the walk it out or crank dat Soulja Boy". I simply tell them " because it's gay!".
Title: Re: Kill me for saying this but...
Post by: JMV on January 09, 2008, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: SHUTOKOU BATTLE 89 on January 08, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
I mean, what happened to real rap/hip-hop?
Major record labels decided it would be funny to get rid of it, and the radios joined in on the gag and decided not to play it on the radio.