And no, I don't mean in competitive play, as that's what an uber basically is. I mean, in a casual game, do you personally mind Ubers being used?
It depends on how many Ubers. I don't mind if a person throws a Mewtwo or a Palkia into their team, especially if the rest of their Pokes aren't so strong. I don't really like playing people with all uber teams unless I have a team designed for beating ubers.
Parasect is fun in Uber battles.
In regular game: Yeah, because I use them too.
In OU: No.
In Uber: Of course.
I don't know why, but I've always liked UU the most. I guess it's because of the distinct lack of Tyranitar and Stealth Rock.
Strange, I don't see many T-tars. I mostly see Jirachi, Skarmory, and Blissey spamming it up.
Quote from: JNFS2014 on July 30, 2009, 07:25:09 PM
Strange, I don't see many T-tars. I mostly see Jirachi, Skarmory, and Blissey spamming it up.
Tyranitars bug me the most because I like using weather that isn't Sandstorm a lot. Tyranitar makes it hard D=
Quote from: Cornwad on July 30, 2009, 07:26:20 PM
Tyranitars bug me the most because I like using weather that isn't Sandstorm a lot. Tyranitar makes it hard D=
I'm just stupid enough to use a T-tar AND weather-based movesets that aren't sandstorm. :P
In a casual game, then it depends on how many ubers you use. If there's only one, then it's not that big a deal, but if your entire party is ubers, then it's cheap.
Stealth Rocks are just as common in UU.
Ubers should be used in Ubers only imo
i dont care for ubers much, especially in casual gaming.
nope don't like them. I don't even like using them
I like Ubers when no one knows how to use them. Like when you fight a team of six poorly trained Deoxys or a Giratina that doesn't realize that Ghost moves don't hit Normal types.
I hate it when random 10 year olds beg to battle me, at a hotel or wherever, and they throw their Giratina into their wimpy team and say Ill never be able to defeat it, blah, blah, blah.....
This happened to me once and drives me insane: this annoying 10 year old has a hacked giratina with max attack and speed, and Dark Void. Stupid conceited kids almost defeating me with hax.
And on a side note, they always make me "show em my pogeymonz"... they'll see my shiny Darkrai (modest, max speed IVs btw) and say "Omg can i hav ur darkrai plz plz plz plz plz" like id actually give it to them for free. Or "plz plz ill giv u my leval 52 empoleon for itz" srsly noobs gtfo. :(
thats my rant :P
Get some darn variety.
I was done with PBR a few matches after I started playing online.
UBERS UBERS EVERYWHERE
I don't mind one or two, but god dangit, go find yourself a nice Pokemon that isn't Uber if you have a full team of Ubers.
Just for clarification, what's "UO" and "UU"? I don't play online or anything.
Anyway, I don't really mind ubers. I don't like facing them though. It just gets old after a while. I don't really like using training them either. It takes a long time and I still haven't EV trained my "perfect team" yet. I guess they are cheap, but a good trainer will either have some of his/her own or know how to effectively counter them.
Uber-Uber
OU-Overused
BL-Borderline
UU-Underused
NU-Neverused
NFE-Not Fully Evolved
Smogon'll tell you more.
Quote from: Back to TerribleFrog on August 16, 2009, 09:13:53 PM
Just for clarification, what's "UO" and "UU"? I don't play online or anything.
Anyway, I don't really mind ubers. I don't like facing them though. It just gets old after a while. I don't really like using training them either. It takes a long time and I still haven't EV trained my "perfect team" yet. I guess they are cheap, but a good trainer will either have some of his/her own or know how to effectively counter them.
Yeah I don't bother to train most Ubers, because I won't be allowed to use them competitively (or even in the battle tower). Since what I'm doing is fair, I expect others to do the same. But, nope.
Im worried whether to put an Uber in my team or not before I battle someone, because, If they use one and I don't, I have a disadvantage and may lose. But, if they don't use one and I do, they DC and call me a cheater =\
Quote from: KAOS on August 17, 2009, 09:00:35 AM
Yeah I don't bother to train most Ubers, because I won't be allowed to use them competitively (or even in the battle tower). Since what I'm doing is fair, I expect others to do the same. But, nope.
Im worried whether to put an Uber in my team or not before I battle someone, because, If they use one and I don't, I have a disadvantage and may lose. But, if they don't use one and I do, they DC and call me a cheater =\
So is it kind of an unwritten rule to not use ubers (most if not all legendaries are ubers, right?) in online Wi-Fi battles? I can see where this would be a problem. Once I train my "perfect team" (the details of which I cannot reveal) I'll probably try it out online. However, I'm pretty sure it has like, 3 ubers. :(
Personally, I think a lot of stat revisions need to be made in
many Pok?mon. Get ready for a thread on this.
Garchomp is allowed at the Battle Tower.
I am a Garchomp hater. Theyre allowed everywhere, and they should be classified as Uber, yes they appear in those high battle tower levels just to piss me off. every time.
And I dont know the entire list of Ubers, but i know Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Salamence, Metagross, Shedinja, Garchomp, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Heatran, Darkrai, Shaymin-S, Deoxys (all but speed), Arceus, and Wobuffett are all Uber. I think I missed some though.
Deoxys-S is Uber. :P
Quote from: JNFS2014 on August 18, 2009, 09:42:44 AM
Deoxys-S is Uber. :P
Since when? That wi-fi bastard scammed me. >:( I wouldve beaten him too. jerk.
Base Stats
HP: 50
Attack: 95
Defense: 90
Special Attack: 95
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 180
Quote from: JNFS2014 on August 18, 2009, 12:32:38 PM
Base Stats
HP: 50
Attack: 95
Defense: 90
Special Attack: 95
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 180
since when does uber-ness depend on base stats? In this case, Deoxys is like a souped-up Ninjask, but its still cheap. I can see how it wouldn't be uer though. This is rediculous
1. It outspeeds everything.
2. It has dual-sweeper qualities.
3. It has kickass defenses.
4. It could buttrape Ninjask anyday.
Quote from: JNFS2014 on August 18, 2009, 12:46:54 PM
1. It outspeeds everything.
2. It has dual-sweeper qualities.
3. It has kickass defenses.
4. It could buttrape Ninjask anyday.
1. True, except you forgot about Agility and chioce scarf =P
2. Yes, I recently discovered that my shiny hasty-natured deoxys-S (which i trained as a physical attacker/sweeper) actually has 31 Sp. Atk IVs. time to re-train -_-
3. not totally.
4. thats only because ninjask is a wimp when it comes to defenses and deoxys has an advantage due to it movepool
Still....Deoxys-S shouldn't be in OU tier. It sets up Stealth Rock easily, and, if the opponent uses agility, it uses Taunt/Spikes. It sets up extremely fast, and can still hit hard. Add in Focus Sash, and you have a setup machine.
Quote from: JNFS2014 on August 18, 2009, 01:01:14 PM
Still....Deoxys-S shouldn't be in OU tier. It sets up Stealth Rock easily, and, if the opponent uses agility, it uses Taunt/Spikes. It sets up extremely fast, and can still hit hard. Add in Focus Sash, and you have a setup machine.
Im not arguing, I still think it should be Uber.
And I HATE STEALTH ROCK. all the teams these days have to be built around that move. So, basically. No one can use so-and-so cuz of stealth rock.
If I could do away with one move in the entire game, it would be stealth rock. Spikes was good enough. >=(
Some, not all.
Like Lugia isn't cheap. Just a wall. But Palkia/Manaphy and Kyogre together... Oh shi-
I once ran into a garchomp whilst unprepared.
It RAPED me.
Finding ubers in the battle frontier pisses me off.
Garchomp should be banned from all play.
Ubers according to Smogon:
Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (all)
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina (all)
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin (Sky form)
Wobbuffet
Wynaut
Also, I think Latias is Uber if it's holding the Soul Dew.