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SO YOU GUYS, METROID OTHER M IS COMING OUT THIS MONTH, AFTER A TWO MONTH DELAY

And personally, I'm stoked. I've heard that pointing the Wii Remote at the screen to go into First Person Mode hasn't been...well received (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement), but we'll find out how it is when Other M actually comes out. And of course, there's the Metroid non-linearity staple. You know, is Other M truly going to be non-linear like the days of old? Or is it really going to be like Fusion?

Enough retarded questions. Vote, discuss, and anticipate Other M.

All right, an August 28th edit. Reviews are out, gameplay details were shared, a leaked version was played, and it seems that it basically isn't all it was hyped to be in the trailers. With that said, let's turn this into a discussion thread for those playing through the game in general, as it comes out in but a few days. Remember, spoilers. There are people who don't want the game spoiled (Me) for themselves.

Of course i'm buying it. I'm just not too excited about the First Person thing either. Don't you have to do that to scan stuff, which then leaves you totally defenseless?

The controls look really stupid, but I'm going to buy it anyway.

I'll buy it...as soon as I finished Metroid Prime 1, 2, and 3.
=/

is the bottle ship the only place you explore?

Team Ninja = Jiggly boobs. Buying it because of that? No. But buying it because it's a freaking Metroid game. Yes. When I do is the question...

I'd buy it if I had the money. Still need to finish Metroid Prime Trilogy anyways.

Quote from: Gwen Khan on August 11, 2010, 08:13:51 PM
is the bottle ship the only place you explore?

...you know, I actually have no idea, because I'm trying my hardest to not spoil the game for myself.

I think I'll buy this game eventually.

If I could, I'd get it immediately when it's released, but unfortunately, at that time I won't have a Wii to play it on. Normally I mooch off my sisters' Wii but they're moving far away in a week or so. I'll have to wait at least a year to play it.

Yikes, Nintendo Power gave it an 8.5 for restricting controls, bad voice acting, and a really confusing story. Nintendo Power gave Corruption a perfect 10 and Hunters an 8.5 from what I remember, so it should be interesting to see what other people have to say about the game.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 25, 2010, 09:08:53 PM
Yikes, Nintendo Power gave it an 8.5 for restricting controls, bad voice acting, and a really confusing story.

Funny, those were the exact faults I was hoping wouldn't plague the game.

Well, this should be interesting...

And it looks like that 8.5 is the highest review it has so far, the lowest being a 2/5 from G4

 :silversad:

The reviews

Look, I check reviews on games I'm not sure about. I already decided I was getting Other M a long while ago. My reasoning was this: Team Ninja doesn't make bad games, Nintendo doesn't allow bad games to be made when they are overseeing a project, and I've never played a bad Metroid game.

The only legitimate gripe I've seen so far is the camera is a little slow and/or doesn't show where you want it to all the time. BUT, with auto-aim, this shouldn't really be a problem and isn't.

This looked awesome from day one, I'm not letting someone else's expectations keep me from playing a game.

 =)

Oh wait, they're mostly positive.  X-Play led me astray.

Most of them are positive, but some of the complaints have me worried. Take GamesRadar's review (http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/metroid-other-m/review/metroid-other-m-super-review/a-2010082791244315085/g-20090602105555875007), for instance.

[spoiler]

Quote from: The tl;dr of the reviewYou'll hate

• Combat is not skill based and gets old fast
• First and third-person viewpoints don't always gel
• Gameplay and story drag for several hours

Just for you, Metacritic!

Other M divides its attention among too many viewpoints and gameplay styles to nail any one of them. Thankfully, the entire game soars so high in the closing moments that it ends up a must play for franchise followers.

[/spoiler]

Yeah from what I can tell it's a good game, but not nearly as good as the other metroid games. I still look forward to playing it when it comes out.

GamesRadar's review is probably my favorite. It tells you what's bad and what's good about it, and at the end I still really want to buy it, but now I know what to expect.

I hear people are now going apepoop over the changes. I hear talk that enemies don't drop health, but you have regenerating health? Custom apparently called Samus losing her badass, as well (http://nsfcd.com/area6/index.php?topic=1160.msg24382#msg24382).

Yeah, you recover health and missiles by concentrating really hard. The G4 review pretty much shows you all the things that people are complaining about, but it's a little too negative to take seriously.

Apparently, some people bought the game already. This video below contains the beginning of the game. Beware, though, as it has some minor spoilers to some stuff.

[spoiler]It mainly involves Samus defeating Mother Brain, gets a tutorial session, and her next mission.[/spoiler]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Considering it starts with the flashback of Super Metroid, I don't think the first spoiler box is necessary...but yeah, I'm going to refrain myself from watching any further gameplay videos in fear of spoiling the game for myself.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 28, 2010, 12:06:14 PM
Yeah, you recover health and missiles by concentrating really hard. The G4 review pretty much shows you all the things that people are complaining about, but it's a little too negative to take seriously.

The missiles I was aware of, and I think it...kind of works. It's not really that logical, when you apply some thought to the workings behind it, but I think health is pushing it a bit, semi-ironically.

Some people pirated the game already, they have full playthroughs on Youtube. I accidentally spoiled a few awesome bosses, but as of yet I don't know if Kraid is in it. I sure hope Kraid is in it, he was the best one.

All right, I'm headed to pick my reserved copies up.

Here's hoping that the negativity is overblown.

Dear god, Samus' voice actor is horrendous.

it's. like. listening. to. someone. with. no. emotions. trying. to. place. emphasis. on. words.

Got my copy a little while ago. So far, the only real complaints I have are Samus's voice actress, the "sensemove" (dodging feature) activating the instant you press a direction when an attack is heading your way, and using the d-pad to move around. That last one is more of a gripe than it is a complaint, though.

All right, I've got another problem, especially when comparing this game to the Prime trilogy.

Its length.

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 01, 2010, 11:14:09 AM
All right, I've got another problem, especially when comparing this game to the Prime trilogy.

Its length.

why is it really short?

All non Prime metroid games are short. Two days ago I blew threw Fusion in 3 hours on my first try.
I just got it, so far my only complaint is that the box art is really boring.

I just saw[spoiler]a Furbie[/spoiler]

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 01, 2010, 01:23:32 PM
I just saw[spoiler]a Furbie[/spoiler]

Yeah I just got there too. Too bad I already spoiled what it was. It's probably the most embarrassing thing ever put into a Metroid game. It should really be a pokemon, it would fit right in.

Just beat it. I'm a little disappointed it ended so quickly, but that's really my fault for being determined to finish it before the internet could spoil everything for me.

Got to say that it was pretty darn good. I can see why it's getting hate, but it was fun while it lasted. On just how good of a Metroid experience it was, and whether it's a good Metroid game, I'm not fully sure yet. A bit too soon to say. But it was fun.

[spoiler=And here's a plot spoiler, somewhat. Click at your own discretion.]...but the story got to be a little too reminiscent of Resident Evil right at the end.[/spoiler]

I'm liking it the more I play it. I started off being really annoyed at how little I actually got to do stuff and how what I actually did wasn't anything special, but it really picks up as you go along.

How did you beat the game in 3 days, SkyMyl? Were you playing it nonstop? It's weird I haven't seen people complaining about its lenght, so you must have played it nonstop...

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 01, 2010, 05:15:28 PM
How did you beat the game in 3 days, SkyMyl? Were you playing it nonstop? It's weird I haven't seen people complaining about its lenght, so you must have played it nonstop...

The game came out yesterday, and one of the main complaints is that it's only about 9 hours long if you take your time with it.

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 01, 2010, 05:15:28 PM
How did you beat the game in 3 days, SkyMyl? Were you playing it nonstop? It's weird I haven't seen people complaining about its lenght, so you must have played it nonstop...

I took some breaks, but they were few and only half an hour long.

But yeah, Other M's pretty darn short.

I'm playing it right now.
It's an alright game.

Just in case if it's a spoiler:
[spoiler]I'm at the part where you enter Sector 2 upon defeating that fire creature and obtaining the Ice Beam and Varia Suit upgrades.[/spoiler]

That's where I just got to too. That thing was crazy looking.

The thing I don't like about it is that when I see a 3D metroid world with all of those computer screens, I want to scan all of them to complete my log book. I don't have that problem with the 2D ones because Prime was never in 2D. It just seems like a shame to have all this wasted space when I just run right through the center of most rooms. It makes me feel like I'm rushing through when I'm really not.

I'm stuck in first person view early in the game I can't get out of it, no weapons, can only look around in a small area, what the heck do I do?

I'm not sure if I should buy it or pirate it.

Quote from: Gwen Khan on September 02, 2010, 10:25:33 AM
I'm stuck in first person view early in the game I can't get out of it, no weapons, can only look around in a small area, what the heck do I do?

Specifify what area you're in in a spoiler box for us to respond.

I just 100%'d it, something that took forever to do in Zero Mission and something I haven't done in any other Metroid game. This kind of disappoints me that collecting the items was noticeably easier than other Metroid games.

...oh, poop. I unlocked hard mode. May as well go through it again.

Quote from: Gwen Khan on September 02, 2010, 10:25:33 AM
I'm stuck in first person view early in the game I can't get out of it, no weapons, can only look around in a small area, what the heck do I do?

If you just got out of your ship at the beginning of the game, you're supposed to look at a specific spot of interest to go on with the game. In this case, it's the Galactic Federation emblem on a ship in the same room.

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 02, 2010, 10:39:50 AM
I'm not sure if I should buy it or pirate it.

Jesus Christ, just buy it

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 02, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
I just 100%'d it, something that took forever to do in Zero Mission and something I haven't done in any other Metroid game. This kind of disappoints me that collecting the items was noticeably easier than other Metroid games.

...oh, poop. I unlocked hard mode. May as well go through it again.
If you just got out of your ship at the beginning of the game, you're supposed to look at a specific spot of interest to go on with the game. In this case, it's the Galactic Federation emblem on a ship in the same room.

[spoiler]I found it, it was a small thing in the corner =, the little white animal, It was after getting the power turned and going to sector 1[/spoiler]

Yeah those point and find sections can be really annoying. Sometimes they make you look for the most specific spots when you have no idea what you're looking for in the first place.

Quote from: Phaze on September 02, 2010, 01:10:45 PM
Jesus Christ, just buy it

>implying I ever have any money ;_;

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on September 02, 2010, 08:45:03 PM
>implying I ever have any money ;_;

Before pirating or buying it, go beat Super Metroid.

Do it.

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 02, 2010, 08:46:52 PM
Before pirating or buying it, go beat Super Metroid.

Do it.

This game has a pretty lame ending. I hate it when they try to make you feel sympathetic for villains in video games. This reminds me of Avatar, and that's not a good thing.

I think we can all agree that Anthony Higgs is one of the best parts of the game. I think we have a third Metroid rep for the next Smash Bros!

Quote from: Cornwad on September 03, 2010, 12:54:27 AM
This game has a pretty lame ending. I hate it when they try to make you feel sympathetic for villains in video games. This reminds me of Avatar, and that's not a good thing.

I think we can all agree that Anthony Higgs is one of the best parts of the game. I think we have a third Metroid rep for the next Smash Bros!

Oh, it one of THOSE endings.... could be worse I 'spose (Halo 2 anyone?)

I can see his stage intro now.... "Remembuh Me!?" As he blasts through a door or something

Anthony Higgs was pretty darn awesome.

[spoiler]It takes a real man with balls of steel to call Samus princess, badass decay or not.[/spoiler]

I'm SO close to get a 100 percent file, but...

[spoiler]Is there any way to open that door to the Missile Pack close to Samus' Gunship?[/spoiler]

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 03, 2010, 06:37:25 PM
I'm SO close to get a 100 percent file, but...

[spoiler]Is there any way to open that door to the Missile Pack close to Samus' Gunship?[/spoiler]

Yes there is. It's so arbitrary that you would never figure it out, unless you went into Search Mode in every possible location and searched everywhere.

[spoiler=The solution]You know the room in the Main Sector that leads into the bathroom? Higher up that room, there's a grate that can be destroyed, which opens up a morph ball shaft that leads to the missile.[/spoiler]

There are a lot of plot holes in this game. Two just off the top of my head are:
[spoiler]Why is Samus surprised in Fusion to find the metroids when she's already blown up one secret metroid factory?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]How do Ridley's corpse and the Nightmare get brought on to the Fusion ship, when they're still there when you run through the Bottle Ship after the ending and you blow up the ship shortly after?[/spoiler]

Quote from: Cornwad on September 05, 2010, 12:52:13 PM
There are a lot of plot holes in this game. Two just off the top of my head are:
[spoiler]Why is Samus surprised in Fusion to find the metroids when she's already blown up one secret metroid factory?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]How do Ridley's corpse and the Nightmare get brought on to the Fusion ship, when they're still there when you run through the Bottle Ship after the ending and you blow up the ship shortly after?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The first one is just a continuity snarl. Ridley and Nightmare were brought onto the B.S.L when the Galactic Federation went to the Bottle Ship after the ending, before Samus goes back. That's why Ridley and Nightmare aren't on the Bottle Ship anymore.

...which makes it odd that you're saying you can see what's left of Ridley and nightmare when I can't find them in the post-credits adventure.

If you want another plot hole, here it is. How does Adam's brain get uploaded to a computer as an AI program when he died by detaching Sector Zero off the Bottle Ship, which then exploded?[/spoiler]

Also, I beat Hard Mode yesterday. It was brutal stuff.

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 05, 2010, 01:08:12 PM
[spoiler]The first one is just a continuity snarl. Ridley and Nightmare were brought onto the B.S.L when the Galactic Federation went to the Bottle Ship after the ending, before Samus goes back. That's why Ridley and Nightmare aren't on the Bottle Ship anymore.

...which makes it odd that you're saying you can see what's left of Ridley and nightmare when I can't find them in the post-credits adventure.

If you want another plot hole, here it is. How does Adam's brain get uploaded to a computer as an AI program when he died by detaching Sector Zero off the Bottle Ship, which then exploded?[/spoiler]

Also, I beat Hard Mode yesterday. It was brutal stuff.

[spoiler]Samus talked about the brains being uploaded regularly. Meaning he probably got part of himself uploaded to the computer every free weekend or something, I dunno. That entire plot twist made no sense and was kinda weird.[/spoiler]
Speaking of Fusion, when are we getting it's sequel?

Who knows. It's been eight years and all Nintendo has done is get developers to make games that jump backwards in the timeline. And it's been six years since the last 2D, Metroidvania styled Metroid.

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 06, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
Who knows. It's been eight years and all Nintendo has done is get developers to make games that jump backwards in the timeline. And it's been six years since the last 2D, Metroidvania styled Metroid.

I'm still waiting for it. And I will wait as long as it takes.

Please Nintendo. PLEASE!
Also, BRB, getting brain uploaded...

I think it's time we had a Metroid game were Samus wasn't the main character. Like Luigi's Mansion but with Anthony Higgs. I guess they could make the gameplay like Super Metroid or Shadow Complex so people have something familiar.

what ever happened to that ship from the end of Prime 3?

Hard Mode completed. Whee. :D

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 08, 2010, 12:50:37 AM
Hard Mode completed. Whee. :D

Did you happen to have any issues with Ridley? Took me half an hour to beat the guy on Hard Mode.

Quote from: SkyMyl on September 08, 2010, 10:04:37 AM
Did you happen to have any issues with Ridley? Took me half an hour to beat the guy on Hard Mode.

I did. Stupid blade tail is an OHKO. >:(

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on September 08, 2010, 01:30:51 PM
I did. Stupid blade tail is an OHKO. >:(

Actually, almost all of his moves are a OHKO.

Quote from: MasterYoungLink on September 08, 2010, 01:37:41 PM
Actually, almost all of his moves are a OHKO.

Oh yes, I was murdered when he charged his flamethrower while I was charging my Super Missile. He went first. >:(

Surprisingly, though, Nightmare really wasn't that difficult to beat, compared to Ridley.

So how exactly did Ridley die?
I know he was killed by that giant Metroid, but why was he all skeletonised?

Quote from: ElvenWonder on September 09, 2010, 10:59:10 PM
So how exactly did Ridley die?
I know he was killed by that giant Metroid, but why was he all skeletonised?

You know how when Metroids suck the life out of a creature, they crumble to dust upon touch?

That was the state Ridley was in.

Quote from: MasterYoungLink on September 10, 2010, 10:42:40 AM
You know how when Metroids suck the life out of a creature, they crumble to dust upon touch?

That was the state Ridley was in.

Ah, yes. I remember that.
Thank you. I was just a little curious if it were some other way he was killed.
He looked like a statue, lol.

Now that I think about it, Ridley has died and revived a lot throughout the series.

Quote from: ElvenWonder on September 10, 2010, 11:38:44 AM
Ah, yes. I remember that.
Thank you. I was just a little curious if it were some other way he was killed.
He looked like a statue, lol.

Now that I think about it, Ridley has died and revived a lot throughout the series.

Yeah, but he is good 'n dead this time.

[spoiler]Raped by the Metroid to dust. Then the X came and stole his genes, turning him from a statue to dust. X kill their host by taking their DNA.[/spoiler]

this game sucks

they completely ruined samus and the story is gay as poop
they basically made her adam's sex slave and she can't do jack poop till he intercourse in lets her

and then you can even move in first person mode
also less exploration than fusion lolololo