Let's get this thing rolling, eh?
-Shaun White Snowboarding is demoed by... Shaun White.
-Reggie talks about how the market has changed since 2003.
-Animal Crossing: City Folk is shown, along with the WiiSpeak peripheral.
-More sales talk, which builds up to the next few announcements.
-Spore on DS, Guitar Hero: Decades, and a new Pokemon Ranger is shown.
-A new GTA game on DS, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars is announced.
-Three Wii games, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party, and Call of Duty: World at War are shown.
-The pack in game for the Wii MotionPlus, Wii Sports Resort, has its frisbee throwing, jet ski, and sword dueling games shown.
- Wii Music is shown with balance board support for drum pedal via the Balance Board and the ability to play the trumpet, along with over 50 other instruments.
Miyamoto and a group of people demo Wii Music with the Mario theme and do OK.
Nintendo says that their object is to make people smile.
Any thoughts? I can't wait for Animal Crossing: City Folk and Wii MotionPlus.
Animal Crossing looks like fun, but Nintendo did not make me smile much...
I'll delete my thread....
I loved the sword fighting i Wii sports resort :)
Wii music looks fun.
and i'm wondering about the mario and zelda games he mentioned.
Animal Crossing and WiiSpeak interests me.
Not much else, though.
I was pretty impressed. Coming in with low expectations, I totally didn't expect WiiSpeak. <3
The only thing that interested me was Animal Crossing and WiiSpeak.
Everything else...not so much. -_-
when are they on stage again?
Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
Animal Crossing looks like fun, but Nintendo did not make me smile much...
Yeah, what happened to the big announcement for core gamers that they had?
I can't see GTA Chinatown Wars being THAT big.
They DID make me smile when they announced WiiSpeak, though.
The only thing I want is Animal Crossing Wii with the mic.
The rest was a disappointment for me. I guess I was right in the first place not to expect anything from this. Still, I was hoping for a Zelda game or something good.
Quote from: WiiGuy on July 15, 2008, 10:17:39 AM
when are they on stage again?
Next year of course :)
Animal Crossing and Wii Music look fun, also Wii Speak
So...is that it? Reggie said something about, "the next couple of days" in the farewell address. I'm not too familiar with how E3 works. Is there more to announce?
Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: WiiGuy on July 15, 2008, 10:17:39 AM
when are they on stage again?
Next year of course :)
he said that "i'll be looking forward to talking to you in the next few days"
Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: WiiGuy on July 15, 2008, 10:17:39 AM
when are they on stage again?
Next year of course :)
I honestly doubt there will be an E3 next year.
Yeah, the highlight of the show was Animal Crossing and WiiSpeak. Maybe Wii Sports Resort.
I think the biggest disaapointment will come from the people who were really expecting something big like the new Zelda or other things. I always have my Nintendo Power magazines to give me the info they never covered at E3, because I'm sure that if they had more time we would have seen alot more.
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
I think the biggest disaapointment will come from the people who were really expecting something big like the new Zelda or other things. I always have my Nintendo Power magazines to give me the info they never covered at E3, because I'm sure that if they had more time we would have seen alot more.
That's why I think this E3 sucked. I was really disappointed. :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
I think the biggest disaapointment will come from the people who were really expecting something big like the new Zelda or other things. I always have my Nintendo Power magazines to give me the info they never covered at E3, because I'm sure that if they had more time we would have seen alot more.
Wow, Nintendo Power actually managed to keep their secret secret. It wasn't announced at E3.
Animal Crossing looks fun. Waiting to hear what complaints people come up with now that voice conversation has been added to the Wii's toolbox.
Wii Sports Resort.. Looks interesting, not that amazing.
I did NOT see GTA coming to the DS.
Wii Music.... It's cool, but I dunno if I'd buy it.
Looking forward to having some of those extras on the DS, like Cooking Navi (Finally)
Overall, It was a good conference to me. I wasn't really expecting anything all that amazing. I mean, Last year everyone wanted info on Brawl and a few wanted some info on Mario Kart Wii. this year really didn't have any games inprogress people were dying to know about. But it had it's share of surprises and unexpected mentions. For Nintendo, I think this converence went well.
Oh, and one final note. I don't think you guys really need to say the conference was terrible and stuff jsut because they didn't announce a new LoZ title. Put things into perspective guys. That's like me being mad off about not mentioning a new Mario game and showing previews. Frankly, I don't care that much whether they mention something or not.
i agree that E3 was a big disapointment the only things that i liked was WII SPEAK and WII SPORTS RESORT
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 10:25:51 AM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
I think the biggest disaapointment will come from the people who were really expecting something big like the new Zelda or other things. I always have my Nintendo Power magazines to give me the info they never covered at E3, because I'm sure that if they had more time we would have seen alot more.
Wow, Nintendo Power actually managed to keep their secret secret. It wasn't announced at E3.
Unless the sword in NP stands for WiiSports Resort O_O
Quote from: Cornwad on July 15, 2008, 10:30:26 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 10:25:51 AM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:22:58 AM
I think the biggest disaapointment will come from the people who were really expecting something big like the new Zelda or other things. I always have my Nintendo Power magazines to give me the info they never covered at E3, because I'm sure that if they had more time we would have seen alot more.
Wow, Nintendo Power actually managed to keep their secret secret. It wasn't announced at E3.
Unless the sword in NP stands for WiiSports Resort O_O
Yep, I actually believe we will see alot more than we saw today in the next issue.
Nintendo obviously didn't see E3 as the time to reveal EVERYTHING like Microsoft and Sony. If i can recall, last year was the same thing, but we got everything we wanted shortly after E3
That was pretty lacking, don't you think?
There was nothing that was really for the core gamers. Hopefully some 3rd parties will decide to make better games instead of releasing effortless games like wildfire.
Incase you haven't noticed, when did Nitnenod ever really show off each and everything they have at E3? Nintendo has always been a mysterious type of company, keeping their secrets and things unkown. Look at Brawl's announcement and variosu videos? They were basically always at the end of the conference and caught people off guard. And even that caught people off guard again with the video showing Solid Snake.
And remember, Nintendo isn't about Hardcore Gamers, it's about Gamers PERIOD.They don't focus on 1 single aspect. They focus on everything as a whole.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:38:36 AM
Incase you haven't noticed, when did Nitnenod ever really show off each and everything they have at E3? Nintendo has always been a mysterious type of company, keeping their secrets and things unkown. Look at Brawl's announcement and variosu videos? They were basically always at the end of the conference and caught people off guard. And even that caught people off guard again with the video showing Solid Snake.
And remember, Nintendo isn't about Hardcore Gamers, it's about Gamers PERIOD.They don't focus on 1 single aspect. They focus on everything as a whole.
I fully agree on this. This isnt the last we have seen of Nintendo, I guarentee it
You know how Nintendo is.
They probably will have their own media summit in like two months and announce a new Zelda/Metroid/Starfox/F-Zero there. That's just how they are. They see these events as more of a way to say how successful they are then to show off games. They do a lot better when they know people aren't watching their every move.
That and remember, E3 has taken some big hits over the past few years? Remember when it was unknown if there would even be anothe rE3 and many of the companies were planning their own special thing to replace E3? It's very possible Nintendo just doesn't see E3 as the place to show off everything anymore.
All the companies used to spend thousands of dollars to get big flashy lights, a huge stage, demo centers, everything. BUT that was when E3 was also easier to get into.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
That and remember, E3 has taken some big hits over the past few years? Remember when it was unknown if there would even be anothe rE3 and many of the companies were planning their own special thing to replace E3? It's very possible Nintendo just doesn't see E3 as the place to show off everything anymore.
Allt he companies used to spend thousands of dollars to get big flashy lights, a huge stage, demo centers, everything. BUT that was when E3 was also easier to get into.
And it was open to the public too!
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
That and remember, E3 has taken some big hits over the past few years? Remember when it was unknown if there would even be anothe rE3 and many of the companies were planning their own special thing to replace E3? It's very possible Nintendo just doesn't see E3 as the place to show off everything anymore.
Allt he companies used to spend thousands of dollars to get big flashy lights, a huge stage, demo centers, everything. BUT that was when E3 was also easier to get into.
And it was open to the public too!
That's.... kinda what I was alluding to....
Maybe Nintendo needs to bring back Spaceworld...
I really wanted Pikmin 3, so I was pretty disappointed. Wii Sports 2 looks ok, Wii Music looks ok, and Animal Crossing looks ok. The rest look pretty boring.
Quote from: Chloroform? on July 15, 2008, 11:10:36 AM
I really wanted Pikmin 3, so I was pretty disappointed. Wii Sports 2 looks ok, Wii Music looks ok, and Animal Crossing looks ok. The rest look pretty boring.
I agree. The only thing that really interested me was Animal Crossing City Folk and Wii Sports Resort. The rest was either "yawn" or nonexistant because they didn't show any of it, like with GTA DS.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
That and remember, E3 has taken some big hits over the past few years? Remember when it was unknown if there would even be anothe rE3 and many of the companies were planning their own special thing to replace E3? It's very possible Nintendo just doesn't see E3 as the place to show off everything anymore.
All the companies used to spend thousands of dollars to get big flashy lights, a huge stage, demo centers, everything. BUT that was when E3 was also easier to get into.
There's a difference between showing everything off and having a good conference. They could have this same line-up of announcements and made it more exciting.
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Very intellegent post. And that would make nintendo ALOT smarter than all of these people think they are *coughNarymancough*
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Very intellegent post. And that would make nintendo ALOT smarter than all of these people think they are *coughNarymancough*
Yeah, but they could show more games and less graphs.
Hey, if you have a reason to show off and show that the number prove you're doing better, why not? Today economy needs that. They need to see that things are doing good and continuing to climb despite how the US is in such a rough shape. Gas Prices, rising costs alla round, companies closing down, and here is Nintendo showing they are going strong.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
Wii sports resort with the 1:1 motion adapter will be cool, but other than that, Im slightly dissapointed.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
How were they boring?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
How were they boring?
Lacked funnyness that they usually have.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
How were they boring?
Speding 20 minutes talking about a card this chick got from her son
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
How were they boring?
Speding 20 minutes talking about a card this chick got from her son
Yeah, and that chick talking about how she broke her wrist really got old.
It wouldn't hurt for them to have a little humor in their conference, the only thing that could even be considered humorous was Reggie wanting to play the Jet Ski in Wii Sports Resort.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 11:47:30 AM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 11:41:02 AM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
Why waste the time, money, and energy to make it more "Exciting" whenthe public is locked out again and can only see it from the internet. They'll only see what the various sites broadcasting it want them to see. Why go over the top for a handful of people in the theater and a couple live internet feeds? Save the money and make better games.
Not being boring doesn't cost money.
How were they boring?
Speding 20 minutes talking about a card this chick got from her son
Yeah, and that chick talking about how she broke her wrist really got old.
It wouldn't hurt for them to have a little humor in their conference, the only thing that could even be considered humorous was Reggie wanting to play the Jet Ski in Wii Sports Resort.
Shigeru Miyamoto's Saxaphone moment was kinda funny
ya it was pretty funny
Ouestion for Animal Crossing: Wild World players:
Do you get to enter just anyone's town or is it a freind code affair. If its a freind code affair, then I almost have no intrest in it and I will not be buying it
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
Ouestion for Animal Crossing: Wild World players:
Do you get to enter just anyone's town or is it a freind code affair. If its a freind code affair, then I almost have no intrest in it and I will not be buying it
Friend code affair.
But it's not like you can't share FC's here like you couldn't at old Nsider.
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
Ouestion for Animal Crossing: Wild World players:
Do you get to enter just anyone's town or is it a freind code affair. If its a freind code affair, then I almost have no intrest in it and I will not be buying it
Animal Crossing is made by Nintendo.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
Ouestion for Animal Crossing: Wild World players:
Do you get to enter just anyone's town or is it a freind code affair. If its a freind code affair, then I almost have no intrest in it and I will not be buying it
Friend code affair.
But it's not like you can't share FC's here like you couldn't at old Nsider.
I dont, and I dont plan to either. Takes too much time and 70% of the time I do, nothing happens and it wont recognize the FC because the person handling all of them gets a number wrong.
WHERE IS PIKMIN 3?!
I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH.
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
ya maybe they did not want to announce yet cause they might be making improvements
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
The first WiiSports was amazing! It was so addicting and my parents played it more than I did! Soon after, many of my friends and family came over and played WiiSports. Within a month they got their own system. Its the magic of Wii, it grows on people.
And Wii Sports 2 will likely have online ::)
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:30 PM
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Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
The first WiiSports was amazing! It was so addicting and my parents played it more than I did! Soon after, many of my friends and family came over and played WiiSports. Within a month they got their own system. Its the magic of Wii, it grows on people.
And Wii Sports 2 will likely have online ::)
Wii Sports 2 won't have online, online is too confusing for the people who like to play it.
I liked Wii Sports... for the first week or so. I don't think I've played it since then.
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
I never expected them to ever have a form of voice chat.
But they did, and they put that Nintendo twist on it.
Nintendo has the worse E3 Confrence this year. Didn't like much of anything, there 'innovation' doesn't entice me in the least, and those 'core' games like 'Animal Crossing' which is a 'core' game he said, like seriously, noo, I want hardcore games, not fishing >.>
I'm so glad Sony was right after it, Nintendo made me turn pale =\
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
I never expected them to ever have a form of voice chat.
But they did, and they put that Nintendo twist on it.
Yeah, twisting balls. Nothing but AC is gonna use it for sure.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:42:04 PM
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Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
I never expected them to ever have a form of voice chat.
But they did, and they put that Nintendo twist on it.
Yeah, twisting balls. Nothing but AC is gonna use it for sure.
You mean like how there are like 50 DS games that use Wifi but there are only two that support the headset?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 01:49:01 PM
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Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
I never expected them to ever have a form of voice chat.
But they did, and they put that Nintendo twist on it.
Yeah, twisting balls. Nothing but AC is gonna use it for sure.
You mean like how there are like 50 DS games that use Wifi but there are only two that support the headset?
2? Metroid and what?
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:54:22 PM
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Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on July 15, 2008, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 12:32:39 PM
Dude, you seriously need take a chill on Pikmin 3.
No, he doesn't. I want a good nintendo game. Not Wii Sports 2. :(
You don't even know everything Nintendo is doing.
I never expected them to ever have a form of voice chat.
But they did, and they put that Nintendo twist on it.
Yeah, twisting balls. Nothing but AC is gonna use it for sure.
You mean like how there are like 50 DS games that use Wifi but there are only two that support the headset?
2? Metroid and what?
And Pokemon D/P
this press release was...ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY TERRIBLY BAD!
I am SEVERLY dissappointed with Nintendo. Too much ego boosting and casual SHIT. Resort looks decent, but will still be mini-game "blech". The ONLY good things to come from this conference:
Voice chat...FINALLY...even though we only have ONE FREAKIN GAME FOR IT!
GTA for DS (finally)
No F-Zero, No Zelda, No Kid Icarus (WHY NINTENDO WHY!?!?!?!?!?) and more casual crap.
And there was ZERO mention of Chrono Trigger...and frankly anything good on DS cept for GTA. Nintendo says Females are buying DSes...it's more like guys are buying LESS would be my guess. I can't remember the last time I bought a DS game! Only one hardcore Wii game (Call of Duty), and why wasn't Clone Wars pushed back to make use of hte Wii MotionPlus? This is horrirble...Nintendo completely failed this time.
Looks like my Wii will be gathering dust for the next year and a half...
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:02:31 PM
this press release was...ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY TERRIBLY BAD!
You mean conference?
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I am SEVERLY dissappointed with Nintendo. Too much ego boosting and casual SHIT.
They do that every year.
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Voice chat...FINALLY...even though we only have ONE FREAKIN GAME FOR IT!
That we know of.
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No F-Zero, No Zelda, No Kid Icarus (WHY NINTENDO WHY!?!?!?!?!?) and more casual crap.
We already got Zelda on Wii and DS. Don't need another one so soon. And maybe they aren't making KI? And casual crap? I saw no crap. Casual, yes. Crap? No.
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And there was ZERO mention of Chrono Trigger...and frankly anything good on DS cept for GTA.
Nintendo has no reason to talk about CT.
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Nintendo says Females are buying DSes...it's more like guys are buying LESS would be my guess. I can't remember the last time I bought a DS game!
Since when do you represent all customers? You just aren't looking, or you're extremely picky. There are many awesome games out right now. Catch up.
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Only one hardcore Wii game (Call of Duty), and why wasn't Clone Wars pushed back to make use of hte Wii MotionPlus? This is horrirble...Nintendo completely failed this time.
Clone Wars has what to do with Nintendo? That's EA's doing.
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Looks like my Wii will be gathering dust for the next year and a half...
Why not go catch up on games you've missed?
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Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 03:02:31 PM
this press release was...ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY TERRIBLY BAD!
You mean conference? Now you're being anal
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I am SEVERLY dissappointed with Nintendo. Too much ego boosting and casual s***.
They do that every year. I wish they'd stop...it's annoying. Yes it sells well GOOD FOR YOU!
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Voice chat...FINALLY...even though we only have ONE FREAKIN GAME FOR IT!
That we know of. I just hope they integrate it into Brawl and Mario Kart...or else it is wrothless to me
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No F-Zero, No Zelda, No Kid Icarus (WHY NINTENDO WHY!?!?!?!?!?) and more casual crap.
We already got Zelda on Wii and DS. Don't need another one so soon. And maybe they aren't making KI? And casual crap? I saw no crap. Casual, yes. Crap? No. Wii Music is casual crap. We have Guitar Hero/Rock band, and I actually PLAY musical instruments. Worthless to me. I don't care about Resort...more mini-game blech. I liked SSX just fine thanks, I don't want the board crud I'll never be able to use right. Well...they promised hardcore...Zelda is hardcore is it not?
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And there was ZERO mention of Chrono Trigger...and frankly anything good on DS cept for GTA.
Nintendo has no reason to talk about CT. One of the greatest RPG's ever...and they talked about freakin GTA.... X_X;;
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Nintendo says Females are buying DSes...it's more like guys are buying LESS would be my guess. I can't remember the last time I bought a DS game!
Since when do you represent all customers? You just aren't looking, or you're extremely picky. There are many awesome games out right now. Catch up. I do look...it's all licensed crap. I've already bought every game I want. There isn't anything I like. How can I catch up when I've already got everything I want? I've looked at their list...and Chrono Trigger is IT for me. I'm not being picky either, I can go to my Best Buy and count the casual/licensed crap on the sytem and it far outweighs stuff I like
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Only one hardcore Wii game (Call of Duty), and why wasn't Clone Wars pushed back to make use of hte Wii MotionPlus? This is horrirble...Nintendo completely failed this time.
Clone Wars has what to do with Nintendo? That's EA's doing. Okay, true...Lucasarts messed that up pretty badly
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Looks like my Wii will be gathering dust for the next year and a half...
Why not go catch up on games you've missed? I've missed nothing...I've got Mario, Zelda, Metroid, No More Heroes, Smash, MKWii, and Secret Rings...I've checked stores there is nothing left
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Plus, they kind of use E3 to tell everyone how great they are doing and make smaller announcements.
They usually have their own media summit for the big stuff.
I'm excited for Wii Sports Resort, mainly because it's actually a game made for everyone.
And of course, Animal Crossing City Folk looks awesome and Wii MotionPlus looks very useful.
I want to see more of GTA: Chinatown Wars.
Honestly, I don't see it becoming part of Brawl or MKWii. If it does, cool. If not, well intercourse , that sucks.
GH and RB are also expensive. Wii Music isn't expensive, doesn't require space for instruments, and is easy to do. It's an alternative to RB and HG. As for Resort...I think making that was a waste of time. If they wanted to do it, make it bigger. Give us at least 15-20 games. Zelda is hardcore. But we already had Zelda, they don't need to make another one so soon.
CTDS is a overpriced rehash of a 10 year old game. GTA gets people interested, because it's something a lot of people don't expect on a Nintendo system these days.
DS: Sonic Rush? Sonic Rush Adventure? Animal Cross WW? Meteos? Trauma Center? Trauma Center 2? NSMB? SM64DS?
Wii: Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Excite Truck, Zack and Wiki?
Besides, soon we're getting Conduit, MadWorld, Sonic, and ToS2.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:26:49 PM
Honestly, I don't see it becoming part of Brawl or MKWii. If it does, cool. If not, well f***, that sucks.
GH and RB are also expensive. Wii Music isn't expensive, doesn't require space for instruments, and is easy to do. It's an alternative to RB and HG. As for Resort...I think making that was a waste of time. If they wanted to do it, make it bigger. Give us at least 15-20 games. Zelda is hardcore. But we already had Zelda, they don't need to make another one so soon. I'd rather have a rushed zelda than more mini-game crap... and for christ sake WHERE IS ANY OF THE BIG NAMES!?
CTDS is a overpriced rehash of a 10 year old game. GTA gets people interested, because it's something a lot of people don't expect on a Nintendo system these days. Yes, and you're telling my Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is worth every penny? I'd rather pay 30 bucks for an old masterpiece than new trash anyday. and thank god for GTA
DS: Sonic Rush? Sonic Rush Adventure? Animal Cross WW? Meteos? Trauma Center? Trauma Center 2? NSMB? SM64DS?
Played to death, Played, don't care for AC, played to death, played to death, still enjoy first, played to death, played to death...NEXT!
Wii: Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Excite Truck, Zack and Wiki? Call of Duty 4 is better, Motorstorm is better, and played
Besides, soon we're getting Conduit, MadWorld, Sonic, and ToS2.
Bold again...
I'd rather they don't rush games thanks. There's always smaller games between the big games. What makes you so impatient now?
PMD is a good game, and worth it in my opinion. No one is making you trash games. There's plenty of good games.
Mario Hoops 3vs3, Hotel Dusk, Trace Memory, Ace Attorney series, Pokemon D/P, Pokemon Rush, Pokemon Ranger, Zelda PH, MPH
I don't care if there's better games. They are great games.
Try The Conduit, Mad World, and No More Heroes.
And if you don't like what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, sell it. You'll get like $500 no matter what condition it is in. But you would have to be crazy to sell your DS, it's an awesome system.
Nintendo has found another market. Simple as that. But the problem is that they say they make games that anyone can play when they really can't. It's either super casual or super hardcore. Wii Sports Resort and Animal Crossing: City Folk prove that they can make games that really anyone can like.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 03:42:30 PM
I'd rather they don't rush games thanks. There's always smaller games between the big games. What makes you so impatient now?
PMD is a good game, and worth it in my opinion. No one is making you trash games. There's plenty of good games.
Mario Hoops 3vs3, Hotel Dusk, Trace Memory, Ace Attorney series, Pokemon D/P, Pokemon Rush, Pokemon Ranger, Zelda PH, MPH
I don't care if there's better games. They are great games.
PMD was shovelware "lets make some money" junk like every spinoff not Mario RPG's/Karts are X_X;;
Mario Hoops: Played...very "meh"
Hotel Dusk: meh
Trace Memory: heard it was kinda bad actually X_X;;
Ace Attorney: Played
D/P: Played (just like EVERY OTHER PKMN GAME)
Rush/Ranger: see PMD
Zelda: beaten
MPH: AWESOME PLAYED TO DEATH
Why am I impatient now? Because I have NOTHING to look forward too! I've got Brawl...and that's pretty much it for hte near future.
Look at Microsoft and Sony. They have big games coming out and spaced out and things constantly in development.
Again, see the front picture in Tuppy's thread on how ppl feel from the Nintiendo conference. Too much ego boosting and casual...not a single hardcore game from Nintnedo.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:44:40 PM
Try The Conduit, Mad World, and No More Heroes.
And if you don't like what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, sell it. You'll get like $500 no matter what condition it is in. But you would have to be crazy to sell your DS, it's an awesome system.
Nintendo has found another market. Simple as that. But the problem is that they say they make games that anyone can play when they really can't. It's either super casual or super hardcore. Wii Sports Resort and Animal Crossing: City Folk prove that they can make games that really anyone can like.
I've played NMH, and it was awesome. Conduit looks fun but when does a download game hold it's weight? X_X;;
I'm only keeping my Wii cuz I love Brawl and am waiting for F-Zero (my favorite racing franchise).
I love the game I have for my DS, I just want some new stuff...and when the only thing I have to look forward too is an old SNES game (a VERY GOOD SNES game I might add), there is, again, something wrong.
Whoa, you are getting so nitpicky Naryman. Just because COD4 is better than MOH:H2, doesn't mean much. Playing MoH with Kendrick is a blast, darn shotgunner, and it is a great game to get online play with. Things like that.
On the DS front, you are probably missing Brothers in Arms, TWEWY, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, and Lost Magic. Add in other bargain bin titles like Touch the Dead, and the DS is likely the best system out there.
On the Wii front a storm is raging. Facebreakers has features the other systems won't get, better graphics too. Conduit...needs no explanation. Our dear friends at Clover whatever they are called are also lining titles like Mad World up. On WiiWare the release of LostWinds 2 is imminent, among other titles. VC has Geno on its' way (I hope) and all sorts of great things.
Nintendo is finally getting a chance to step back. Most of the premier titles are theirs, but now their system is getting a bit of respect, so other developers can take to the field. Sure, today was disappointing, but things are happy in Nintendoland.
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Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 03:44:40 PM
Try The Conduit, Mad World, and No More Heroes.
And if you don't like what Nintendo is doing with the Wii, sell it. You'll get like $500 no matter what condition it is in. But you would have to be crazy to sell your DS, it's an awesome system.
Nintendo has found another market. Simple as that. But the problem is that they say they make games that anyone can play when they really can't. It's either super casual or super hardcore. Wii Sports Resort and Animal Crossing: City Folk prove that they can make games that really anyone can like.
I've played NMH, and it was awesome. Conduit looks fun but when does a download game hold it's weight? X_X;;
I'm only keeping my Wii cuz I love Brawl and am waiting for F-Zero (my favorite racing franchise).
I love the game I have for my DS, I just want some new stuff...and when the only thing I have to look forward too is an old SNES game (a VERY GOOD SNES game I might add), there is, again, something wrong.
The Conduit is a retail game.
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:00:02 PM
Whoa, you are getting so nitpicky Naryman. Just because COD4 is better than MOH:H2, doesn't mean much. Playing MoH with Kendrick is a blast, dang shotgunner, and it is a great game to get online play with. Things like that.
On the DS front, you are probably missing Brothers in Arms, TWEWY, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, and Lost Magic. Add in other bargain bin titles like Touch the Dead, and the DS is likely the best system out there.
On the Wii front a storm is raging. Facebreakers has features the other systems won't get, better graphics too. Conduit...needs no explanation. Our dear friends at Clover whatever they are called are also lining titles like Mad World up. On WiiWare the release of LostWinds 2 is imminent, among other titles. VC has Geno on its' way (I hope) and all sorts of great things.
Nintendo is finally getting a chance to step back. Most of the premier titles are theirs, but now their system is getting a bit of respect, so other developers can take to the field. Sure, today was disappointing, but things are happy in Nintendoland.
Why should I play MOH when I can play COD4 with beutiful graphics, voice chat, no lag, and 40 people? X_X;;
I've played every DS game I've wanted to play, so meh.
If Conduit is so important why are we hearing nothing about it? X_X;; Even though I'll still probably get it.
I gave up hope for Clover long ago...if Okami and Viewtiful Joe won't spike sales, nothing will...
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Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:00:02 PM
Whoa, you are getting so nitpicky Naryman. Just because COD4 is better than MOH:H2, doesn't mean much. Playing MoH with Kendrick is a blast, dang shotgunner, and it is a great game to get online play with. Things like that.
On the DS front, you are probably missing Brothers in Arms, TWEWY, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, and Lost Magic. Add in other bargain bin titles like Touch the Dead, and the DS is likely the best system out there.
On the Wii front a storm is raging. Facebreakers has features the other systems won't get, better graphics too. Conduit...needs no explanation. Our dear friends at Clover whatever they are called are also lining titles like Mad World up. On WiiWare the release of LostWinds 2 is imminent, among other titles. VC has Geno on its' way (I hope) and all sorts of great things.
Nintendo is finally getting a chance to step back. Most of the premier titles are theirs, but now their system is getting a bit of respect, so other developers can take to the field. Sure, today was disappointing, but things are happy in Nintendoland.
Why should I play MOH when I can play COD4 with beutiful graphics, voice chat, no lag, and 40 people? X_X;;
I've played every DS game I've wanted to play, so meh.
If Conduit is so important why are we hearing nothing about it? X_X;; Even though I'll still probably get it.
I gave up hope for Clover long ago...if Okami and Viewtiful Joe won't spike sales, nothing will...
The Conduit has tons of info about it, they even had a demo at E3.
Graphics aren't everything, and MOH: H2 has 32 person online, and was released prior to COD4. Comparatively, MoH: H2 is just as good of a title, especially adding in gameplay factors.
As for your DS thing, you are getting way too picky; you claim to be an RPG fan, yet you don't touch games like TWEWY, AW: DoR, and Lost Magic? Shame on you.
Furthermore, as noted fifty times to you, Ninty is saving things, for good reason.
Oh, and don't diss Clover, they are among the best in the business, and I'll stake money on it one of their Wii titles wins GotY.
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:00:02 PM
Whoa, you are getting so nitpicky Naryman. Just because COD4 is better than MOH:H2, doesn't mean much. Playing MoH with Kendrick is a blast, darn shotgunner, and it is a great game to get online play with. Things like that.
I love me some shotgun action. ;D
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:08:52 PM
Graphics aren't everything, and MOH: H2 has 32 person online, and was released prior to COD4. Comparatively, MoH: H2 is just as good of a title, especially adding in gameplay factors.
As for your DS thing, you are getting way too picky; you claim to be an RPG fan, yet you don't touch games like TWEWY, AW: DoR, and Lost Magic? Shame on you.
Furthermore, as noted fifty times to you, Ninty is saving things, for good reason.
Oh, and don't diss Clover, they are among the best in the business, and I'll stake money on it one of their Wii titles wins GotY.
I never once claimed to be an RPG fan...where did you get that idea?
I played AW on GBA and couldn't get into it...
Saving for what? What is it they have to wait for?
I love Clover...problem is no one is buying their games!
Problem with MoH is that there is no clans, voice chat, or anything that makes online FPS's fun. It's basically playing really smart AI X_X;;
Tuppy: Ok, I'll look around and see if I can find anything...maybe I'm not looking hard enough...
Your posts make it clear that you like RPG's, I can dig up posts that support it, if you like As for MoH, there were a LOT of clans playing it. Our very own clan, the Revolutionists, were proudly playing it, along with numerous others. Clans form around every online game.
As for the AW thing, it is hardly supportive. Still other great titles, new and original ones, that you ignore.
Furthermore, Nintendo prefers doing business on their own terms, they control the event, they release better info......simple concept.
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:16:12 PM
Your posts make it clear that you like RPG's, I can dig up posts that support it, if you like As for MoH, there were a LOT of clans playing it. Our very own clan, the Revolutionists, were proudly playing it, along with numerous others. Clans form around every online game.
As for the AW thing, it is hardly supportive. Still other great titles, new and original ones, that you ignore.
Furthermore, Nintendo prefers doing business on their own terms, they control the event, they release better info......simple concept.
I like RPG's but not enough to get every single one on the system...although I might have to regardless X_X;;
Tell me, which system of communication do you use in MoH...the phone or Xbox Live? Also, do you get new maps and such to keep things interesting? Nope...although they do have Pay and Play now, so that'll probably be fixed.
Problem is they're so self absorbed in their own events. I mean even a simple "we've got some other games from other franchises in the works...but we'll hold it off for a later date" would've sufficed rather than blatantly ignoring it altogether
I don't communicate with MoH, as it is not part of the game. I set up my match, and that's it.
As for that issue, they play by their own rules. One issue with releasing game info at an event like E3 is the chance that it will be overshadowed by a bigger game. Compare Star Fox Wii to something like Halo 4; even though SFWii may be Ninty's big claim to the core gamer, Halo 4 would overshadow it due to pure buying power. Ninty plays smart.
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:23:29 PM
I don't communicate with MoH, as it is not part of the game. I set up my match, and that's it.
As for that issue, they play by their own rules. One issue with releasing game info at an event like E3 is the chance that it will be overshadowed by a bigger game. Compare Star Fox Wii to something like Halo 4; even though SFWii may be Ninty's big claim to the core gamer, Halo 4 would overshadow it due to pure buying power. Ninty plays smart.
If they're that shallow then why go to the event at all? If they have something big then they have nothing to worry about.
Wait...if you don't communicate how do you get anything done? You mean you just run around and shoot? X_X;;
Considering MoH:H2 doesn't have FC's, and you can play with anyone, and random games, yes, yes it does.
Quote from: mackormoses on July 15, 2008, 04:33:45 PM
Considering MoH:H2 doesn't have FC's, and you can play with anyone, and random games, yes, yes it does.
I'm still surprised Nintendo let that happen...normally they're like "OMG NO FRIEND CODES YOU MUST DIE!"
I'm trying not to knock it but when you've played CoD4 you can't really go back to anything else besides Halo and Resistance X_X;;
How would you feel if Nintendo announced the following things at E3 today?
- MOTHER 3 is announced for a US release.
- A new online system is introduced, one without friend codes.
- A harddrive is shown, along with a headset.
- A new Metroid is shown.
- A new DS Mario.
- Kid Icarus Wii is shown.
- F-Zero Wii is shown.
- Pilotwings Wii is announced.
- A trailer for a true Wii Zelda is shown.
- Everything they REALLY showed today.
I would think it would be a little overkill. They need to spread things out so one thing doesn't eclipse another.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
How would you feel if Nintendo announced the following things at E3 today?
- MOTHER 3 is announced for a US release.
- A new online system is introduced, one without friend codes.
- A harddrive is shown, along with a headset.
- A new Metroid is shown.
- A new DS Mario.
- Kid Icarus Wii is shown.
- F-Zero Wii is shown.
- Pilotwings Wii is announced.
- A trailer for a true Wii Zelda is shown.
- Everything they REALLY showed today.
I would think it would be a little overkill. They need to spread things out so one thing doesn't eclipse another.
How would I feel? I'd be very happy dur.
Spread things out is one thing (a.k.a. "We've got other games, but we're not ready to show them"), but they did "hardcore? Whats that?"
I just remember. The official press sheet for AC says that the WiiSpeak thing is sold separately. What the hell?
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
How would you feel if Nintendo announced the following things at E3 today?
- MOTHER 3 is announced for a US release.
- A new online system is introduced, one without friend codes.
- A harddrive is shown, along with a headset.
- A new Metroid is shown.
- A new DS Mario.
- Kid Icarus Wii is shown.
- F-Zero Wii is shown.
- Pilotwings Wii is announced.
- A trailer for a true Wii Zelda is shown.
- Everything they REALLY showed today.
I would think it would be a little overkill. They need to spread things out so one thing doesn't eclipse another.
How would I feel? I'd be very happy dur.
Spread things out is one thing (a.k.a. "We've got other games, but we're not ready to show them"), but they did "hardcore? Whats that?"
A direct quote from Reggie, responding to a question from Morgan Webb about being left out.
"How could you feel left out? You have GTA coming to the DS and Animal Crossing on the Wii."
Once and for all, they are saving things for their media summit.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 04:51:56 PM
I just remember. The official press sheet for AC says that the WiiSpeak thing is sold separately. What the hell?
I'll wait for the inevitable wireless Nyko headset, thank you.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
How would you feel if Nintendo announced the following things at E3 today?
- MOTHER 3 is announced for a US release.
- A new online system is introduced, one without friend codes.
- A harddrive is shown, along with a headset.
- A new Metroid is shown.
- A new DS Mario.
- Kid Icarus Wii is shown.
- F-Zero Wii is shown.
- Pilotwings Wii is announced.
- A trailer for a true Wii Zelda is shown.
- Everything they REALLY showed today.
I would think it would be a little overkill. They need to spread things out so one thing doesn't eclipse another.
How would I feel? I'd be very happy dur.
Spread things out is one thing (a.k.a. "We've got other games, but we're not ready to show them"), but they did "hardcore? Whats that?"
A direct quote from Reggie, responding to a question from Morgan Webb about being left out.
"How could you feel left out? You have GTA coming to the DS and Animal Crossing on the Wii."
Once and for all, they are saving things for their media summit.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 04:51:56 PM
I just remember. The official press sheet for AC says that the WiiSpeak thing is sold separately. What the hell?
I'll wait for the inevitable wireless Nyko headset, thank you.
It's not necessarily the problem of waht they said (well, they really didn't offer real gamers much of anything frankly), but the way they wnet about it. Since the Wii was announced they've been uncaring and uninterested in the core gamer...and completely forgetting them altogether in this conference basically was the steak in the heart for me (and I'm sure many others). Again, a simple "we've got some other good franchise stuff too, but we can't show it right now" would've been fine! It would've given us something without actually giving us stuff. But instead they forget the issue altogether.
I'm waiting to see when my wireless headset I'm going to get for my PS3 will work for hte Wii as well.
They really didn't even offer any person that plays games much. Most of the conference was just sales figures. At least when Sony brags about sales it's entertaining.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
They really didn't even offer any person that plays games much. Most of the conference was just sales figures. At least when Sony brags about sales it's entertaining.
Hooray Paul Pierce sackboy. I wants a Jordan #23 sackboy now ;D
Like I said, too much ego boosting and sales figures no one cares about. Female gamers almost even with males for DS...whoop-de-doo bazil we don't really care, show us some games please.
Not to mention I wanted to just throw that annoying soccer mom out of the building
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 04:51:56 PM
I just remember. The official press sheet for AC says that the WiiSpeak thing is sold separately. What the hell?
I'll wait for the inevitable wireless Nyko headset, thank you.
Too bad voice chat will still come through the speakers and not the headset though.
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
They really didn't even offer any person that plays games much. Most of the conference was just sales figures. At least when Sony brags about sales it's entertaining.
Hooray Paul Pierce sackboy. I wants a Jordan #23 sackboy now ;D
Like I said, too much ego boosting and sales figures no one cares about. Female gamers almost even with males for DS...whoop-de-doo bazil we don't really care, show us some games please.
Not to mention I wanted to just throw that annoying soccer mom out of the building
I don't care about how you broke your wrist and how you fail at snowboarding.
Show me games. That's why I tuned in, to see new games.
Sackboy should become Sony's mascot. :D
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:05:36 PM
They really didn't even offer any person that plays games much. Most of the conference was just sales figures. At least when Sony brags about sales it's entertaining.
Hooray Paul Pierce sackboy. I wants a Jordan #23 sackboy now ;D
Like I said, too much ego boosting and sales figures no one cares about. Female gamers almost even with males for DS...whoop-de-doo bazil we don't really care, show us some games please.
Not to mention I wanted to just throw that annoying soccer mom out of the building
I don't care about how you broke your wrist and how you fail at snowboarding.
Show me games. That's why I tuned in, to see new games.
Sackboy should become Sony's mascot. :D
Espeically how she handled it. The way she went about it seemed like she doesn't play games at all (and probably doesn't besides said casual crap). I mean at least Reggie has SOME idea on what he's talking about.
I love sackboy he's so cute and funny. *puts on paul pierce jersy* "YAAAAY!" freakin awesome XD
LittleBigPlanet is going to be the game that makes the PS3 accepted by everyone.
You can actually customize your Sackboy? Sweet, I'm putting mine in that dragon costume.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
LittleBigPlanet is going to be the game that makes the PS3 accepted by everyone.
You can actually customize your Sackboy? Sweet, I'm putting mine in that dragon costume.
Yep, and make your own levels! I can't wait to maky my sackboy a Chicago Cubbie
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
LittleBigPlanet is going to be the game that makes the PS3 accepted by everyone.
You can actually customize your Sackboy? Sweet, I'm putting mine in that dragon costume.
Yep, and make your own levels! I can't wait to maky my sackboy a Chicago Cubbie
So is it like Garry's Mod and all it is is a level creator, or is there a story mode?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
LittleBigPlanet is going to be the game that makes the PS3 accepted by everyone.
You can actually customize your Sackboy? Sweet, I'm putting mine in that dragon costume.
Yep, and make your own levels! I can't wait to maky my sackboy a Chicago Cubbie
So is it like Garry's Mod and all it is is a level creator, or is there a story mode?
There is a mian "adventure" mode, but it's mostly user generated content. It's a youtube style type of level sharing :P
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:09:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
LittleBigPlanet is going to be the game that makes the PS3 accepted by everyone.
You can actually customize your Sackboy? Sweet, I'm putting mine in that dragon costume.
Yep, and make your own levels! I can't wait to maky my sackboy a Chicago Cubbie
So is it like Garry's Mod and all it is is a level creator, or is there a story mode?
There is a mian "adventure" mode, but it's mostly user generated content. It's a youtube style type of level sharing :P
I'll be playing other people's levels more than I make my own because my ideas never work out. :D
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 15, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 15, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
It's called headset one XBL or PS3 but I digress at least we're finally getting voice chat...it just took WAY too long. I can't wait to curse in front of kids and scar them just to scare Nintendo poopless XD
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 15, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
It's called headset one XBL or PS3 but I digress at least we're finally getting voice chat...it just took WAY too long. I can't wait to curse in front of kids and scar them just to scare Nintendo poopless XD
But there's friend codes so you're not going to meet strangers online.
But it's a good plan, I must admit.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 15, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 15, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
It's called headset one XBL or PS3 but I digress at least we're finally getting voice chat...it just took WAY too long. I can't wait to curse in front of kids and scar them just to scare Nintendo s***less XD
But there's friend codes so you're not going to meet strangers online.
But it's a good plan, I must admit.
There will be hacks...there will be hacks... *evil grin*
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On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
It's called headset one XBL or PS3 but I digress at least we're finally getting voice chat...it just took WAY too long. I can't wait to curse in front of kids and scar them just to scare Nintendo s***less XD
But there's friend codes so you're not going to meet strangers online.
But it's a good plan, I must admit.
There will be hacks...there will be hacks... *evil grin*
i wont hack my game, but i will listen for you cussing me out as I play a random match of Conduit >:D
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
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Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 15, 2008, 06:29:27 PM
On topic people please.
I'm looking forward to WiiSpeak, it's going to be fun talking from any place you're in, like in the bed!
Now you can use AC to talk to friends without running up your phone bill ^________^
It's called headset one XBL or PS3 but I digress at least we're finally getting voice chat...it just took WAY too long. I can't wait to curse in front of kids and scar them just to scare Nintendo s***less XD
But there's friend codes so you're not going to meet strangers online.
But it's a good plan, I must admit.
There will be hacks...there will be hacks... *evil grin*
i wont hack my game, but i will listen for you cussing me out as I play a random match of Conduit >:D
I get Conduit AND Resistance 2 with it's giant Chimera's >:D
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on July 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten us. How many people are gonna make this dumbass statement that they have forgotten us?
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on July 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten us. How many people are gonna make this dumbass statement that they have forgotten us?
um....because....it's...I dunno....kinda true?
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on July 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten us. How many people are gonna make this dumbass statement that they have forgotten us?
um....because....it's...I dunno....kinda true?
Kind of true, but you never know what Nintendo has up their sleeves. They're secretive like that.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on July 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten us. How many people are gonna make this dumbass statement that they have forgotten us?
They even stated that they havent, Nintendo always pulls through at the end
Quote from: Nayrman on July 15, 2008, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 15, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on July 15, 2008, 08:19:23 PM
I did feel let down after the press conference as a hard core gamer. I am all for nintendo expanding there market base and all that but did they forget about us? Did they forget that we were the ones who kept them alive during the last generation with a console that did not sell to well. We were the ones who kept nintendo's head above water until they could come out with the wii. I think after during that they can a least give us a little teaser trailer. But E3's not over yet. Remember E3 2006? They did not show the brawl trailer during the conference but they shown it a few days later.
It is painfully obvious that Nintendo hasn't forgotten us. How many people are gonna make this dumbass statement that they have forgotten us?
um....because....it's...I dunno....kinda true?
um....but....it's...I dunno....not true
If you're a hardcore gamer with a Wii your dooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
Ask yourself, how much longer will those titles you have now last? How many Hardcore games do you see coming out besides 'The Conduit' for the Wii? Go on, don't give me bullsh!t either.
I said it, get mad, you know it's true.
Quote from: Leggy on July 15, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
If you're a hardcore gamer with a Wii your dooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
Ask yourself, how much longer will those titles you have now last? How many Hardcore games do you see coming out besides 'The Conduit' for the Wii? Go on, don't give me bullsh!t either.
I said it, get mad, you know it's true.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Wii is not meant to be a primary games system for hardcore gamers. It is best to own one in conjunction with a PS3, 360, or gaming PC.
That said, F-Zero Wii is inevitable, as is Kid Icarus Wii.
Quote from: Leggy on July 15, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
If you're a hardcore gamer with a Wii your dooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
Ask yourself, how much longer will those titles you have now last? How many Hardcore games do you see coming out besides 'The Conduit' for the Wii? Go on, don't give me bullsh!t either.
I said it, get mad, you know it's true.
Off the top of my head:
The Conduit
MadWorld
Call of Duty
F-Zero
Zelda
de Blob
Kid Icarus
Star Wars
Tales of Symphonia 2
Next Tales game
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
LostWinds 2
Mega Man 9
Sonic Unleased
Brothers In Arms
Disaster
Mushroom Men
Quote from: Leggy on July 15, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
If you're a hardcore gamer with a Wii your dooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
Ask yourself, how much longer will those titles you have now last? How many Hardcore games do you see coming out besides 'The Conduit' for the Wii? Go on, don't give me bullsh!t either.
I said it, get mad, you know it's true.
Now that's over reacting. I was disappointed that we were not even given a teaser trailer but there's no way nintendo will stop all together with stuff like mario and zelda. They did say there were working on it, it was just some BS but there not abounding us. Every one who feels upset here's what I want you to do. Take 50 dollars (plus tax), go to your local game retailer, and buy NO More Heroes. Trust me it will make you feel better.
Duh, this Leggy dude is over-reacting. He's completely anti-Nintendo. He'll do, say, and come up with anything he can in order to make Nintendo look bad in an way, shape, or form. He's even more annoying than Lava, and that's pretty sad in my book. I say Leggy should gtfo of this topic if he's gonna do nothing but try and start a war between Pro-Nintendos and Anti-Nintendos.
No Pikmin 3 or de Blob info.
I'm sad.
Quote from: Riosan on July 16, 2008, 05:31:59 AM
No Pikmin 3 or de Blob info.
I'm sad.
Pikmin 3 will be at the other conferences I mentioned, and I don't think THQ had that big of a showing at E3.
Quote from: DBY106698 on July 15, 2008, 10:47:23 PM
Duh, this Leggy dude is over-reacting. He's completely anti-Nintendo. He'll do, say, and come up with anything he can in order to make Nintendo look bad in an way, shape, or form. He's even more annoying than Lava, and that's pretty sad in my book. I say Leggy should gtfo of this topic if he's gonna do nothing but try and start a war between Pro-Nintendos and Anti-Nintendos.
I say your still an idiot. Sir, I can say w.e the f*** I want. I'm not completely Anti-Nintendo, I like some of their games, but I do like to make fun of how much of a side console it is for Hardcore gamers. If you don't like what I say, skip my post.
@ This list
The Conduit - I said a game besides the conduit :o
MadWorld- Meh, not htat sure about it
Call of Duty- Probably wont be fun on the Wii
F-Zero- Not official yet
Zelda- Haven't heard of the next one yet
de Blob- FAIL
Kid Icarus- Maybe if it's official
Star Wars- Ofc, sure but can u really call it 'hardcore'
Tales of Symphonia 2- FAIL, didn't like it
Next Tales game- FAIL
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Might be alright
LostWinds 2- Not sure about it
Mega Man 9 - I guess alright
Sonic Unleased - FAIL, cmon get some new crap
Brothers In Arms- FAIL FOR THE WII
Disaster- Not sureMushroom Men - FAIL
I'll be as critical as I can in any thread I want, just because this is a Wii forum doesn't mean I'm going to kiss the Wii's ass. There confrence sucked and it's fairly obvious they forgot about the Hardcore gamers. As Morgan said, would you go for the Hardcore gamers or EVERYONE else.
Wow, have you even LOOKED at de Blob?
It looks amazing.
And Sonic Unleashed may be fail on Wii, but it has potential on other systems.
Nintendo has forgotten the hardcore for the time being. Mainly because it's SO hard to please hardcore fans. But occasionally, they'll throw us a bone.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 03:32:12 PM
Wow, have you even LOOKED at de Blob?
It looks amazing.
And Sonic Unleashed may be fail on Wii, but it has potential on other systems.
Nintendo has forgotten the hardcore for the time being. Mainly because it's SO hard to please hardcore fans. But occasionally, they'll throw us a bone.
Yer, I have looked at de Blob, and sorry but it doesn't look like my kind of game, I've also read about it, still doesn't interest me.
Quote from: Leggy on July 16, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 03:32:12 PM
Wow, have you even LOOKED at de Blob?
It looks amazing.
And Sonic Unleashed may be fail on Wii, but it has potential on other systems.
Nintendo has forgotten the hardcore for the time being. Mainly because it's SO hard to please hardcore fans. But occasionally, they'll throw us a bone.
Yer, I have looked at de Blob, and sorry but it doesn't look like my kind of game, I've also read about it, still doesn't interest me.
Well, then say it doesn't appeal to you.
Leggy, would you like for me to point out everything wrong in your post, or can you already see it?
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
Leggy, would you like for me to point out everything wrong in your post, or can you already see it?
Well, you're going to end up doing the former eventually, so you might as well do it now.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 03:39:21 PM
Leggy, would you like for me to point out everything wrong in your post, or can you already see it?
Go ahead.
The Conduit - I said a game besides the conduit :o (Don't care. It's awesome.)
MadWorld- Meh, not that sure about it (Still a hardcore game)
Call of Duty- Probably wont be fun on the Wii (Still a hardcore game)
F-Zero- Not official yet (I'll give you that one)
Zelda- Haven't heard of the next one yet (Miyamoto pretty much confirmed it)
de Blob- FAIL (How can it fail, if it's not out yet?)
Kid Icarus- Maybe if it's official (Again, pretty much confirmed by Miyamoto)
Star Wars- Ofc, sure but can u really call it 'hardcore' (Uhh, yes, I can.)
Tales of Symphonia 2- FAIL, didn't like it (You haven't played it. And it is hardcore. And it's only out in Japan, how has it failed?)
Next Tales game- FAIL (The game hasn't even been given a name, and you say it's failed? You're a dumbass)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Might be alright
LostWinds 2- Not sure about it (Still hardcore)
Mega Man 9 - I guess alright
Sonic Unleased - FAIL, cmon get some new crap (Hardcore, and shaping up to be good)
Brothers In Arms- FAIL FOR THE WII (Still hardcore, and isn't out. How has it failed?)
Disaster- Not sure (Hardcore)
Mushroom Men - FAIL (Not out yet)
I love it how this guy says that games that haven't come out yet have failed. And opinions of the game doesn't change if it's a hardcore game or not. Have NSiders lalways been this stupid?
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 03:57:05 PM
The Conduit - I said a game besides the conduit :o (Don't care. It's awesome.)
MadWorld- Meh, not that sure about it (Still a hardcore game)
Call of Duty- Probably wont be fun on the Wii (Still a hardcore game)
F-Zero- Not official yet (I'll give you that one)
Zelda- Haven't heard of the next one yet (Miyamoto pretty much confirmed it)
de Blob- FAIL (How can it fail, if it's not out yet?)
Kid Icarus- Maybe if it's official (Again, pretty much confirmed by Miyamoto)
Star Wars- Ofc, sure but can u really call it 'hardcore' (Uhh, yes, I can.)
Tales of Symphonia 2- FAIL, didn't like it (You haven't played it. And it is hardcore. And it's only out in Japan, how has it failed?)
Next Tales game- FAIL (The game hasn't even been given a name, and you say it's failed? You're a dumbass)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Might be alright
LostWinds 2- Not sure about it (Still hardcore)
Mega Man 9 - I guess alright
Sonic Unleased - FAIL, cmon get some new crap (Hardcore, and shaping up to be good)
Brothers In Arms- FAIL FOR THE WII (Still hardcore, and isn't out. How has it failed?)
Disaster- Not sure (Hardcore)
Mushroom Men - FAIL (Not out yet)
I love it how this guy says that games that haven't come out yet have failed. And opinions of the game doesn't change if it's a hardcore game or not. Have NSiders lalways been this stupid?
Not since Oldsider.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 03:57:05 PM
The Conduit - I said a game besides the conduit :o (Don't care. It's awesome.)
MadWorld- Meh, not that sure about it (Still a hardcore game)
Call of Duty- Probably wont be fun on the Wii (Still a hardcore game)
F-Zero- Not official yet (I'll give you that one)
Zelda- Haven't heard of the next one yet (Miyamoto pretty much confirmed it)
de Blob- FAIL (How can it fail, if it's not out yet?)
Kid Icarus- Maybe if it's official (Again, pretty much confirmed by Miyamoto)
Star Wars- Ofc, sure but can u really call it 'hardcore' (Uhh, yes, I can.)
Tales of Symphonia 2- FAIL, didn't like it (You haven't played it. And it is hardcore. And it's only out in Japan, how has it failed?)
Next Tales game- FAIL (The game hasn't even been given a name, and you say it's failed? You're a dumbass)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Might be alright
LostWinds 2- Not sure about it (Still hardcore)
Mega Man 9 - I guess alright
Sonic Unleased - FAIL, cmon get some new crap (Hardcore, and shaping up to be good)
Brothers In Arms- FAIL FOR THE WII (Still hardcore, and isn't out. How has it failed?)
Disaster- Not sure (Hardcore)
Mushroom Men - FAIL (Not out yet)
I love it how this guy says that games that haven't come out yet have failed. And opinions of the game doesn't change if it's a hardcore game or not. Have NSiders lalways been this stupid?
You're a dumbass hyprocrite, how can you say a game thats not out yet is hardcore? If you can call it hardcore, I can call it fail. There opinions, and I'm entitled to mine.
The Conduit - I said a game besides the conduit :o
(Don't care. It's awesome.)-
Ok fine, if you say so.MadWorld- Meh, not that sure about it
(Still a hardcore game)-
If you show me some good stuff, then sure.Call of Duty- Probably wont be fun on the Wii
(Still a hardcore game)-
Yeah, on the 360 or PS3 or PC F-Zero- Not official yet
(I'll give you that one)-
why ty :)Zelda- Haven't heard of the next one yet
(Miyamoto pretty much confirmed it)-
how so? de Blob- FAIL
(How can it fail, if it's not out yet?)-
I love how you call ir hardcore when it's not even out yetKid Icarus- Maybe if it's official
(Again, pretty much confirmed by Miyamoto)-
where?Star Wars- Ofc, sure but can u really call it 'hardcore'
(Uhh, yes, I can.)Yeah, ok then do so Tales of Symphonia 2- FAIL, didn't like it
(You haven't played it. And it is hardcore. And it's only out in Japan, how has it failed?) I saw what this game looked like and heard of it, like I said didn't like it, how the hell is it hardcore?Next Tales game- FAIL
(The game hasn't even been given a name, and you say it's failed? You're a dumbass)I call it FAIL because you don't know a darn thing about it, not even it's name, your a dumbass to call this game hardcore when you know very little about itMarvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Might be alright
LostWinds 2- Not sure about it
(Still hardcore)-
how so? Mega Man 9 - I guess alright
Sonic Unleased - FAIL, cmon get some new crap
(Hardcore, and shaping up to be good)-
I bet it'll drop the ball just like the last one ofc. Brothers In Arms- FAIL FOR THE WII
(Still hardcore, and isn't out. How has it failed?)-
Because it just will, it's probably going to suck so hard for the Wii because features will be taken out for this editionDisaster- Not sure
(Hardcore)-
how so? / prove it. Mushroom Men - FAIL
(Not out yet)-
exactly, and i haven't herd anything about it, i was being an ass and going purely off the name :D
Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same intercourse ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
wow someone more pessimistic than me about hte current Nintendo situation.
I'm just mad cuz they're blatantly not caring about hardcore and only care about casual atm X_X;;
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same f***ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
From those same videos and screens I can say I don't like the game or fail. We all have different opinions.
CoD can be a hardcore game on the 360 and not the Wii because the Wii version is always the failing one, just like when CoD3 was released on all of them. I didn't see them going and doing that again with CoD4? Except for the DS, which also failed. Tyvm. The same intercourse ing game is not always the same for each console. ^_^
Tales games are HARDCORE RPG omg, I'm so siked now.
Quote from: Leggy on July 16, 2008, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same f***ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
From those same videos and screens I can say I don't like the game or fail. We all have different opinions.
CoD can be a hardcore game on the 360 and not the Wii because the Wii version is always the failing one, just like when CoD3 was released on all of them. I didn't see them going and doing that again with CoD4? Except for the DS, which also failed. Tyvm. The same intercourse ing game is not always the same for each console. ^_^
Tales games are HARDCORE RPG omg, I'm so siked now.
I didn't say you had to LIKE the game. Liking a game has nothing to do with this. It is an opinion/ I'm not saying you have to like Tales game, or Call of Duty. I'm saying they are games classified as a hardcore game, unlike a game like Petz or Wii Music.
It's the same game. Hardcore. Move on Leggy.
OMG DATS LEIK SO KEWL.
Nayr, where did you get that idea from? One conference? How are you gonna base a statement like that from one conference, which doesn't even mean anything anymore. If nothing happens between now and the end of the year from Nintendo, you can rightfully say that, and I will give you 5 dollars.
Besides, that, Nintendo has released several hardcore games, and provided us with the Virtual Console.
Ok, Nintendo always has a fall media summit, so Mystic, that's your best bet at a point to not lose $5.
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: Leggy on July 16, 2008, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same f***ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
From those same videos and screens I can say I don't like the game or fail. We all have different opinions.
CoD can be a hardcore game on the 360 and not the Wii because the Wii version is always the failing one, just like when CoD3 was released on all of them. I didn't see them going and doing that again with CoD4? Except for the DS, which also failed. Tyvm. The same f***ing game is not always the same for each console. ^_^
Tales games are HARDCORE RPG omg, I'm so siked now.
I didn't say you had to LIKE the game. Liking a game has nothing to do with this. It is an opinion/ I'm not saying you have to like Tales game, or Call of Duty. I'm saying they are games classified as a hardcore game, unlike a game like Petz or Wii Music.
It's the same game. Hardcore. Move on Leggy.
OMG DATS LEIK SO KEWL.
Nayr, where did you get that idea from? One conference? How are you gonna base a statement like that from one conference, which doesn't even mean anything anymore. If nothing happens between now and the end of the year from Nintendo, you can rightfully say that, and I will give you 5 dollars.
Besides, that, Nintendo has released several hardcore games, and provided us with the Virtual Console.
Liking a game helps an opinion forumulate, doesn't it? Nintendo has failed at E3 for the hardcore. Thats all you need to know, so stop defending it as it wont get any better. Maybe at TGS, they'll do something. Thats your best bet. For now, FAIL.
CALL OF DUTY ON THE WII AND DS HAS FAILD AND THUS NOT HARDCORE THUS FAR SORRY FOR POINTING IT OUT AND I REALLY REALLY REALLY BET THIS COD: WaW WILL ALSO FAIL ON THE WII.
THERE.
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
Yeah, they dodged the hardcore question, and when he did answer a hardcore question, he said that GTA and Animal Crossing was enough to satisfy the hardcore gamer.
"We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet."- This is probably the status of the harcore titles, Nintendo just didn't want to say it.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
Yeah, they dodged the hardcore question, and when he did answer a hardcore question, he said that GTA and Animal Crossing was enough to satisfy the hardcore gamer.
"We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet."- This is probably the status of the harcore titles, Nintendo just didn't want to say it.
Animal Crossing is NOT hardcore...I don't know where they got that delusion X_X;;
Why not? They didnt have to reveal anything with that statement, just reassure that they're at least working on stuff. That would've sufficed and let me know there is hope for hte future and I shouldn't despair. Unfortunately I feel abandoned because it seems like they don't care. At least Miyamoto will tell us stuff (sorta)...he's the only nice guy on the staff now it seems X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
At E3? Wario Land.
Nintendo can annouce games at anytime and still get huge attention. Especially now, people are waiting to see when Nintendo annouces a game from one of the big franchises. Nintendo enjoys intercourse ing with us. :'(
Oh, and AC is an everyone game really. AC is like Mario Party or Madden.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
At E3? Wario Land.
Nintendo can annouce games at anytime and still get huge attention. Especially now, people are waiting to see when Nintendo annouces a game from one of the big franchises. Nintendo enjoys f***ing with us. :'(
Oh, and AC is an everyone game really. AC is like Mario Party or Madden.
Wario Land was announced before E3...guh...
Of course they can but it's better to do it with all the biggest news outlets for gaming all in the same room...HELLO LOGIC!
AC is not like Mario Party or Madden. You actually have to do stuff with action in those games....AC is a life sim where you buy stuff...decorate stuff...and go fishing to relax X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
At E3? Wario Land.
Nintendo can annouce games at anytime and still get huge attention. Especially now, people are waiting to see when Nintendo annouces a game from one of the big franchises. Nintendo enjoys f***ing with us. :'(
Oh, and AC is an everyone game really. AC is like Mario Party or Madden.
Wario Land was announced before E3...guh...
Of course they can but it's better to do it with all the biggest news outlets for gaming all in the same room...HELLO LOGIC!
AC is not like Mario Party or Madden. You actually have to do stuff with action in those games....AC is a life sim where you buy stuff...decorate stuff...and go fishing to relax X_X;;
It's one of those "love it or hate it" games.
They like to have their own, smaller conference because everyone is focusing on them.
I just don't understand why they don't attend TGS....
Maybe it's because Sony has such a presence there.
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
At E3? Wario Land.
Nintendo can annouce games at anytime and still get huge attention. Especially now, people are waiting to see when Nintendo annouces a game from one of the big franchises. Nintendo enjoys f***ing with us. :'(
Oh, and AC is an everyone game really. AC is like Mario Party or Madden.
Wario Land was announced before E3...guh...
Of course they can but it's better to do it with all the biggest news outlets for gaming all in the same room...HELLO LOGIC!
AC is not like Mario Party or Madden. You actually have to do stuff with action in those games....AC is a life sim where you buy stuff...decorate stuff...and go fishing to relax X_X;;
I know WL was announced before hand. But it was AT E3, a hardcore game. That was my point. Damn, use your brain >_>
And since when does Nintendo do what others do?
Irrelevant. AC, Madden, and MP are games casuals, nongamers, hardcore, whatever, can enjoy. Yes, MP and Madden require more work, but they are a similar type of game in regards to "categorizing" them.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 04:28:50 PM
Simple my good friend:
Nintendo of Europe: "There will be plenty of games for the core gamer to be revealed soon, probably E3" (April)
Regginald Fils-Aime: "We haven't forgotten the core gamer" (Earlier this year after the release of Brawl)
Lets see, did we get any big announcements? Nope. Did we get any reassurance at E3? Nope.
Did you see the G4 interview of Reggie after the conference? He completely dodged the hardcore question and wanted to talk about other things like how they're trying to "expand the audience".
Therefore they are blatantly dodging the issue...Like I keep saying, a simple "We've got other franchises you know and love in the works, but we're not in a position to show it yet." would've sufficed, but they ignored it X_X;;
Oh, and E3 STILL matters....still the biggest event in America, and still the biggest time (besides maybe TGS) to announce new games.
At E3? Wario Land.
Nintendo can annouce games at anytime and still get huge attention. Especially now, people are waiting to see when Nintendo annouces a game from one of the big franchises. Nintendo enjoys f***ing with us. :'(
Oh, and AC is an everyone game really. AC is like Mario Party or Madden.
Wario Land was announced before E3...guh...
Of course they can but it's better to do it with all the biggest news outlets for gaming all in the same room...HELLO LOGIC!
AC is not like Mario Party or Madden. You actually have to do stuff with action in those games....AC is a life sim where you buy stuff...decorate stuff...and go fishing to relax X_X;;
It's one of those "love it or hate it" games.
They like to have their own, smaller conference because everyone is focusing on them.
I just don't understand why they don't attend TGS....
Maybe it's because Sony has such a presence there.
That's not even an issue...Nintendo dominated TGS during the N64/pre-release Cube era X_X;;
It is a love it or hate it game...and I'm in the latter. They want focus? Then announce something big and they'll get all the attention X_X;;
@Mystic: I meant they should do similar things to actaully announcing games and such...it makes things a hell of a lot easier and it makes Nintendo less egotistical (even though they so obviously are). Madden? Casual? I laugh at you...
does Mario Party get long lines for the release? No. Does Animal Crossing have tournaments? No.
Sure, new people like to play Madden, but new people also like to play Mario...which is half-hardcore. So that argument fails because Madden is most assurdley hardcore X_X;;
Well, Nintendo is going to be at TGS this year, so it might be different.
Plus, they basically RUN E for All.
When did I ever say Madden was a casual game? I said it's a game casuals play, along with hardcore and non-gamers. I never said it was a casual game. Same for AC and MP. They are EVERYONE games. These are games anyone can jump into and have fun.
Why do you care if they announce certain things at E3 anyways? We know they're coming, so why not Nintendo announce it on their time? I'm not saying it was a good move to be all "HAY WE HAS MUSIC AND BEACHES" at E3, because it wasn't. I'm saying is there is a lot more going on that we have actually be told to out faces.
Didn't Iwata show up at TGS last year?
It's mostly hardcore...therefore falls into the hardcore spectrum most of the time.
Probably the only true fifty fifty split are RPG's like Pokemon...cuz they can pull off both.
I want it stated now because I want something to look forward to than "Zelda: Sometime in the next decade" and "Mario: sometime next generation" and such...
Iwata was at TGS, but he didn't say anything...he just kinda yutzed around X_X:;
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
It's mostly hardcore...therefore falls into the hardcore spectrum most of the time.
Probably the only true fifty fifty split are RPG's like Pokemon...cuz they can pull off both.
I want it stated now because I want something to look forward to than "Zelda: Sometime in the next decade" and "Mario: sometime next generation" and such...
Iwata was at TGS, but he didn't say anything...he just kinda yutzed around X_X:;
You do realize there are OTHER games coming out for Wii than ones with the Nintendo logo slapped on the front right?
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
It's mostly hardcore...therefore falls into the hardcore spectrum most of the time.
Probably the only true fifty fifty split are RPG's like Pokemon...cuz they can pull off both.
I want it stated now because I want something to look forward to than "Zelda: Sometime in the next decade" and "Mario: sometime next generation" and such...
Iwata was at TGS, but he didn't say anything...he just kinda yutzed around X_X:;
You do realize there are OTHER games coming out for Wii than ones with the Nintendo logo slapped on the front right?
Yes but it seems at either a lackluster pace or just "give them something to shut them up" kind of attitude. But for the conceivable future it's basically mini-game spats and casual "meh"-ness besides some games, most of which Nintendo doesn't even make (Wario Land is pretty much the only one they make themselves...everything else is third party, when Nintendo is saying they're the ones that care about everyone when they so obviously don't).
Quote...or just "give them something to shut them up"
That's partially true.
Oh, and E for All is in October this year, and Nintendo usually has a fall media summit in September, so yeah.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 05:42:38 PM
Quote...or just "give them something to shut them up"
That's partially true.
Oh, and E for All is in October this year, and Nintendo usually has a fall media summit in September, so yeah.
All I can say is that something better happen this calendar year or basically every hardcore group is going to say "intercourse this" and head off to the Microsoft and Sony camp
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
It's mostly hardcore...therefore falls into the hardcore spectrum most of the time.
Probably the only true fifty fifty split are RPG's like Pokemon...cuz they can pull off both.
I want it stated now because I want something to look forward to than "Zelda: Sometime in the next decade" and "Mario: sometime next generation" and such...
Iwata was at TGS, but he didn't say anything...he just kinda yutzed around X_X:;
You do realize there are OTHER games coming out for Wii than ones with the Nintendo logo slapped on the front right?
Yes but it seems at either a lackluster pace or just "give them something to shut them up" kind of attitude. But for the conceivable future it's basically mini-game spats and casual "meh"-ness besides some games, most of which Nintendo doesn't even make (Wario Land is pretty much the only one they make themselves...everything else is third party, when Nintendo is saying they're the ones that care about everyone when they so obviously don't).
We have about 23 known hardcore titles coming. Some of them are coming soon. Quality titles take time. I don't see Nintend launching big name titles soon, but 3rd parties are. Nintendo has already launched Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash, and Pokemon. Their most loved franchises have had their outing. It's time for other ones.
Wait and see.
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:44:17 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 05:42:38 PM
Quote...or just "give them something to shut them up"
That's partially true.
Oh, and E for All is in October this year, and Nintendo usually has a fall media summit in September, so yeah.
All I can say is that something better happen this calendar year or basically every hardcore group is going to say "intercourse this" and head off to the Microsoft and Sony camp
Since the Wii is the cheapest system, most people I know own one in conjunction with a PS3, 360, or gaming PC.
I would be happy with a new Pilotwings or F-Zero and the leaked-by-Miyamoto Punch Out Wii. Kid Icarus isn't that much of a stretch now, either.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 05:45:41 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 05:08:13 PM
It's mostly hardcore...therefore falls into the hardcore spectrum most of the time.
Probably the only true fifty fifty split are RPG's like Pokemon...cuz they can pull off both.
I want it stated now because I want something to look forward to than "Zelda: Sometime in the next decade" and "Mario: sometime next generation" and such...
Iwata was at TGS, but he didn't say anything...he just kinda yutzed around X_X:;
You do realize there are OTHER games coming out for Wii than ones with the Nintendo logo slapped on the front right?
Yes but it seems at either a lackluster pace or just "give them something to shut them up" kind of attitude. But for the conceivable future it's basically mini-game spats and casual "meh"-ness besides some games, most of which Nintendo doesn't even make (Wario Land is pretty much the only one they make themselves...everything else is third party, when Nintendo is saying they're the ones that care about everyone when they so obviously don't).
We have about 23 known hardcore titles coming. Some of them are coming soon. Quality titles take time. I don't see Nintend launching big name titles soon, but 3rd parties are. Nintendo has already launched Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash, and Pokemon. Their most loved franchises have had their outing. It's time for other ones.
Wait and see.
I know quality titles take time, but unfortunatley Nintendo seems to take it's sweet ass time every chance it gets.
Lets take a look shall we: We got 3 Jak and Daxter games on the PS2...all were rated highly and sold well. We get Resistance 2 a mere 2.5 years after the first one...wow that took a long time! *sarcasm* We've gotten a ton of Ratchet and Clank games, and all the console ones are fantastic (based on general popular opinion). This is rather pathetic since Nintendo has some of the largest videogame studios in the industry and is more than capable of making more than one Mario platformer a generation...the thing is they don't.
Helll, I could use the same excuse for Metroid from Retro (not Nintendo, RETRO. They're a second party like Camelot and HAL). We get a total of six Metroid games in a seven year span (Metroid Primes 1-3, Metroid Fushion, Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime Hunters). I think we can agree that every single one of them were great games and truley show how each system can work. Again, it's certainly possible to release more with quality. Problem is Nintendo really isn't doing it and are more content to do a total rehaul of the game design every single time/ cater to the every growing "casual" (a.k.a. we'll buy anything with cute stuff on it) crowd/cheaply make spinoffs that'll sell well while putting no effort to actually try to go what made the series good in the first place (the Mario Party fallacy). If they actually tried we could easily get Mother 3 over here, we could easily get 2 Mario platformers a generation, etc.
Quote....cater to the every growing "casual" (a.k.a. we'll buy anything with cute stuff on it)
My mom loves cute things (she got so addicted to the original Animal Crossing that she would turn the game on and play it when I was at school) and even she said, "I don't like all of these weird cute things on the covers of these games, it makes me not want to buy it."
If Mother 3 had come out two years earlier than it did, it would have definitely been localized because NOA usually does whatever NCL does. But since NOA considered the GBA dead by 2006 and they didn't want to make a translation for DS because it wouldn't sell in the millions, so they didn't. They seem to forget that Animal Crossing was the little game that no one had any confidence in, it had slow sales initially, and then it took off. MOTHER 3 is a niche game, I'll admit that. But Nintendo used to bring niche games over from Japan, but the last time they did was with Elite Beat Agents.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 06:13:05 PM
Quote....cater to the every growing "casual" (a.k.a. we'll buy anything with cute stuff on it)
My mom loves cute things (she got so addicted to the original Animal Crossing that she would turn the game on and play it when I was at school) and even she said, "I don't like all of these weird cute things on the covers of these games, it makes me not want to buy it."
If Mother 3 had come out two years earlier than it did, it would have definitely been localized because NOA usually does whatever NCL does. But since NOA considered the GBA dead by 2006 and they didn't want to make a translation for DS because it wouldn't sell in the millions, so they didn't. They seem to forget that Animal Crossing was the little game that no one had any confidence in, it had slow sales initially, and then it took off. MOTHER 3 is a niche game, I'll admit that. But Nintendo used to bring niche games over from Japan, but the last time they did was with Elite Beat Agents.
It seems your mom is a rare exception then X_X;; Dear god you have no idea how many stupid girls I've seen say they bought Nintendogs because "OMG IT LIEK HAS A CYOOT PUPPY OHN EETT!" It's rather sad...
Wait...so you're proving my point now?
Not that it really matters, but I'm pretty sure MPH was by NST, not Retro.
Anyways, I'm aware Nintendo is being slow. However, they are also working on like 10 games at a time. Super Mario and Zelda always take a long time. We won't even get announcements on the next Super Mario until either 2 years from now, or when the next console hits. Zelda is likely be be this year or next year.
Again, I'm not saying Nintendo is right in always waiting to announce stuff. However, to think they have left is ridiculous. They haven't. However, in releasing stuff, Nintendo is usually getting SOMETHING out. In the past 8 months, we've got Galaxy, Brawl, Kart, Wii Fit, Slugger. Soon we get Wario Land and Pokemon Platinum (GameFreak actually). Has Nintendo ever launched that many quality titles in such a short period of time?
How about giving 3rd parties some time to launch stuff, instead of Nintendo force feeding us everything at once?
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 06:13:05 PM
Quote....cater to the every growing "casual" (a.k.a. we'll buy anything with cute stuff on it)
My mom loves cute things (she got so addicted to the original Animal Crossing that she would turn the game on and play it when I was at school) and even she said, "I don't like all of these weird cute things on the covers of these games, it makes me not want to buy it."
If Mother 3 had come out two years earlier than it did, it would have definitely been localized because NOA usually does whatever NCL does. But since NOA considered the GBA dead by 2006 and they didn't want to make a translation for DS because it wouldn't sell in the millions, so they didn't. They seem to forget that Animal Crossing was the little game that no one had any confidence in, it had slow sales initially, and then it took off. MOTHER 3 is a niche game, I'll admit that. But Nintendo used to bring niche games over from Japan, but the last time they did was with Elite Beat Agents.
It seems your mom is a rare exception then X_X;; Dear god you have no idea how many stupid girls I've seen say they bought Nintendogs because "OMG IT LIEK HAS A CYOOT PUPPY OHN EETT!" It's rather sad...
Wait...so you're proving my point now?
I bought Nintendogs because it looked fun.
Oh, and she normally likes cute things, but she thinks it's getting ridiculous now.
But yeah, give Nintendo some time.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 06:17:48 PM
Not that it really matters, but I'm pretty sure MPH was by NST, not Retro.
Anyways, I'm aware Nintendo is being slow. However, they are also working on like 10 games at a time. Super Mario and Zelda always take a long time. We won't even get announcements on the next Super Mario until either 2 years from now, or when the next console hits. Zelda is likely be be this year or next year.
Again, I'm not saying Nintendo is right in always waiting to announce stuff. However, to think they have left is ridiculous. They haven't. However, in releasing stuff, Nintendo is usually getting SOMETHING out. In the past 8 months, we've got Galaxy, Brawl, Kart, Wii Fit, Slugger. Soon we get Wario Land and Pokemon Platinum (GameFreak actually). Has Nintendo ever launched that many quality titles in such a short period of time?
How about giving 3rd parties some time to launch stuff, instead of Nintendo force feeding us everything at once?
Ten titles at a time...*looks at Square-Enix and Capcom...they do lots of games at the same time too*
I don't know how you can count Mario spinoffs (besides RPG's and Karts, since they're not cheap moneymaking scams which basically all the sports titles are). You also have to notice the deeping "valley" effect in which Nintendo so often incurrs upon itself. You're right, we got those nice games in a short time...now we've got nothing to look forward too and Nintendo got bored of it so now they're on the casual bandwagon because it's easier and less actual gameplay has to be worked on. I'm not criticizing them for tapping that market, but like Majesco and EA, they have no reason to really try anything when they can make cheap mini-game collections that will be fizzled up by unkowing kids/parents/casuals who can't tell decent games from money-making cash cows? (see Mario sports titles)
My point is that it's possible to make quality games in a quick and timely matter. Sony, Capcom, and Square-Enix all can, yet Nintendo consistantly has these peaks and valleys. That's my point on this subject matter. (Wow, we got from E3 hardcore-ness to debating game lifecycles and development time)
so there is a new mario game coming out soon?
So, overall impression of Nintendo's conference?
In one word: disappointing.
I liked Resort and City Folk, though.
It's more about what they DIDN'T show then what they did.
Quote from: guido123 on July 16, 2008, 06:29:04 PM
so there is a new mario game coming out soon?
No, from what we can infer (non-confirmation) from Miyamoto is that they're talking but no where close to anything atm.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on July 16, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
So, overall impression of Nintendo's conference?
In one word: disappointing.
I liked Resort and City Folk, though.
It's more about what they DIDN'T show then what they did.
Exactly. I'm fine with what htey had, but they didn't show anything to make me interested. I mean really...they could at least MENTION some games we'd be interested in, but again they dodge the issue altogether. They don't even mention the Conduit, or show anything of Wario Land (even though it's playable its like they dont' even care for the game) and so on...
I like what they showed, I just didn't like how they mentioned what we really wanted to see in such an offhand way.
Wii Sports and WiiFit have sold billions of copys, graphs graphs graphs, money money money. Oh yeah, and the Mario and Zelda teams are making something hardcore fans would like. So back to WiiFit...
Mario sports game have good quality so I count it.
Yes, Nintendo dug themselves into a hole. They released 4 huge games (Fit, Galaxy, Smash, and Kart) in less than a year, plus most of the other games they had. They have nothing else to release for awhile. But it can be good, because now 3rd parties can release things without being overshadowed by Nintendo.
On the casual bandwagon? Uhh...they're making 2 casual games. 2, compared to 3 they recently released, and several coming. 2 is not a lot.
Super Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon (main series) take a lot of time. Between them is Nintendo's quick and easy games, but they are quality titles. I'd say Wii Sports Resort falls in the quick and easy, mostly because they've done it, so it's much easier than the first. The last big games from Ninty was Kart and Fit. Sluggers, WSR, and such are fillers until Wario Land and other big name games.
And since when does Sony make games? I thought all games were from 2nd parties and 3rd parties?
Sony Computer Entertainment Japan/America (SCEJ/SCEA) made the Crash Bandicoot while they had it, now they make the Ratchet/Clank, Jak, and God of War series.
Um...if I can't play it by myself for more than fifteen minutes without getting bored...it's casual junk (a.k.a. the Wiiness titles and such). Um...the spinoffs are rather poor in quality (especially recent Mario Parties). And they're not as good as the real sports titles. Tiger Woods > Mario Golf, Virtua Tennis > Mario Tennis, etc., etc. Sure they're campy Mario takes on it but that's not hte point. If Nintendo wanted to make a sports game, make a sports game! You don't need Mario on half of everything. If it's a good game and advertise it then it will sell regardless. I mean, look at Star Fox Adventures...perfect example of this.
Quote from: Nayrman on July 16, 2008, 06:50:59 PM
Sony Computer Entertainment Japan/America (SCEJ/SCEA) made the Crash Bandicoot while they had it, now they make the Ratchet/Clank, Jak, and God of War series.
Um...if I can't play it by myself for more than fifteen minutes without getting bored...it's casual junk (a.k.a. the Wiiness titles and such). Um...the spinoffs are rather poor in quality (especially recent Mario Parties). And they're not as good as the real sports titles. Tiger Woods > Mario Golf, Virtua Tennis > Mario Tennis, etc., etc. Sure they're campy Mario takes on it but that's not hte point. If Nintendo wanted to make a sports game, make a sports game! You don't need Mario on half of everything. If it's a good game and advertise it then it will sell regardless. I mean, look at Star Fox Adventures...perfect example of this.
I said Wiiwhatever titles are casual. Wii Music is junk, I will tell you that right now. Wii Fit and Wii Sports are not. I dunno about Wii Play, but that's probably junk.
Nintendo's spinoffs are pretty great quality.Real life sports games suck, horribly, in my opinion. I'd much rather play Mario Golf than TW, and I hate golf.
SFAdventures sold well because it had Star Fox on it, and was the first new one in a few years. SFAdventures itself sucked to be honest. And the point of Mario sports game is the Mario fluff. The special sequences and items and such. That's why people like them, because they are different from other games. Nintendo could easily make a real life tennis game, and make it sell well. But they don't, because there are enough of them. But where are the fantasy/cartoonish tennis games huh?
Wii Music, Play, and (IMO!) Fit are complete junk.
Sports are okay since it's basically just a tech demo anyway (problem is they're making it sound like real games).
The SFA example is exactly my point...along with the Mario spinoffs. It would've been fine but they had to add a license to a game that didn't need it. They could've easily made a cartoony tennis/golf game whathaveyou. But it HAD to be Mario. Why not make a tennis game about Aliens with lazers against Vikings using waships as specials? Simple, because they don't have to try with mario X_X;;
How is Wii Fit junk?
Why does it matter if it's Mario or not? People love Mario. Not only are they giving customers a character they love, but it guarantees more sales than anything else.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 07:10:15 PM
How is Wii Fit junk?
Why does it matter if it's Mario or not? People love Mario. Not only are they giving customers a character they love, but it guarantees more sales than anything else.
Because it:
a) Isn't a game
b) Another annoying attempt to bring "non-gamers" into the fold
c) Trying to get me to work out when I don't want to
d) Since when is a videogame motivation to excersize? People are freakin stupid
It matters because again it'd be fine without Mario if they still made it zany but they only attached Mario to try and make it sell more.
Again, if it's a good game and they advertise, it'll sell just fine. However, if it has "Mario" on it they don't even have to try. Copy everything else, add some mushrooms and Peach's Castle and VIOLA, a cheap-o cash cow...
a. That makes it software, not junk.
b. Annoying? How does it annoy you? You don't have to look at it or even acknowledge it.
c. How does a piece of software that you didn't buy or even touch try to make you do anything? You buy it because your interested in working out.
d. Doesn't make it junk. Just proves how lazy people are.
Except Nintendo puts Mario in it, and it still is a good game. You get Mario and a good game. There's no problem.
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 07:18:39 PM
a. That makes it software, not junk.
b. Annoying? How does it annoy you? You don't have to look at it or even acknowledge it.
c. How does a piece of software that you didn't buy or even touch try to make you do anything? You buy it because your interested in working out.
d. Doesn't make it junk. Just proves how lazy people are.
Except Nintendo puts Mario in it, and it still is a good game. You get Mario and a good game. There's no problem.
(90 dollars for a bathroom weight that hooks up to a tv = junk)
I've played it...it was pointless and I don't know why they should've bothered because it isn't a game. At least the Wii-stuff (sports and music) are games at least... it's basically the same thing as those pointless info-mercials for mechanical stuff...
Sports games aren't what Mario is about...or was anyway. You don't see "The Legend of Zelda: The Fighting game" or "Pikmin the First Person Shooter" because that's not how they work. Yet that's pretty much what they did for Mario X_X;;
Apparently Miyamoto just confirmed that they're making Pikmin for Wii at the developers conference. Its not much, but at least we know its there :)
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Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same f***ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
From those same videos and screens I can say I don't like the game or fail. We all have different opinions.
CoD can be a hardcore game on the 360 and not the Wii because the Wii version is always the failing one, just like when CoD3 was released on all of them. I didn't see them going and doing that again with CoD4? Except for the DS, which also failed. Tyvm. The same intercourse ing game is not always the same for each console. ^_^
Tales games are HARDCORE RPG omg, I'm so siked now.
Nayr, where did you get that idea from? One conference? How are you gonna base a statement like that from one conference, which doesn't even mean anything anymore. If nothing happens between now and the end of the year from Nintendo, you can rightfully say that, and I will give you 5 dollars.
I no longer owe 5 dollars. wewt
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 08:41:16 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
Quote from: Leggy on July 16, 2008, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Mystic Fury on July 16, 2008, 04:13:18 PM
Go do some research. We know if a game is hardcore or not becauce INFORMATION and VIDEOS and SCREENS are released. Each game I listed is hardcore, and that cannot be argued, except maybe Star Wars. Will they be good games? Who knows. We can hope.
And would CoD be a hardcore game on 360 but not Wii? It's the same f***ing game -_-
Also, Tales games are hardcore RPG games. I'd love to see your grandma beat Tales of Symphonia.
From those same videos and screens I can say I don't like the game or fail. We all have different opinions.
CoD can be a hardcore game on the 360 and not the Wii because the Wii version is always the failing one, just like when CoD3 was released on all of them. I didn't see them going and doing that again with CoD4? Except for the DS, which also failed. Tyvm. The same intercourse ing game is not always the same for each console. ^_^
Tales games are HARDCORE RPG omg, I'm so siked now.
Nayr, where did you get that idea from? One conference? How are you gonna base a statement like that from one conference, which doesn't even mean anything anymore. If nothing happens between now and the end of the year from Nintendo, you can rightfully say that, and I will give you 5 dollars.
I no longer owe 5 dollars. wewt
Yeah, that happened quick. :P