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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: QingXin on August 02, 2008, 12:32:09 PM

Title: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 02, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
Meet the Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas

YESSSS!!! BIG BANG IS BACKKK!!!! NO STOPPING THE INCREDIBLE!!! Yeah.

Yeah, this is a new thing I'm starting, harvested from extreme boredom. This is a group of characters that I call the "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" (or SWC). Who are they? They're a select group of characters that shoulda become playable, woulda become playable, coulda become playable, but didn't become playable.

Who are some prime examples? Well, in the SWC, we have Ridley (Metroid), Samurai Goroh (F-Zero), King K. Rool (Donkey Kong), Mewtwo (Pokemon), Ray [insert model here] (Custom Robo), and a few others that I might've missed or have no idea who they are.

If you have a candidate, I'll add them.


So what's in this topic thread, you ask? Well, I'll be presenting the most (in my eyes) accurate movelist and functionality of that character in Brawl. Let's get started, eh?

Also, prepare for a dose of nostalgia on a few of them (Ridley, anyone?)


The Infamous Space Pirate: Ridley

(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/AznTamJam/RIDLEY-1.jpg)

Perhaps my favorite SWC member, Ridley (not NSF Ridley, although he's cool, too) had probably the highest chance out of all the SWC's to become playable... But we get him as a boss (or two). He really didn't deserve this treatment. So here he is, basking in all his glory (while it lasts, anyway).

Stats
Power - 4/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 2/5
Running Speed - 1.5/5
Jumping - 5/5
Height - Medium-Tall
Weight - Medium-Heavy


Visuals
Appearance - Ridley flies onto the stage.

Fighting Pose - Ridley's wings are tucked in, and Ridley is hunched forward.

Slow Walk - Ridley slowly creeps forward.

Fast Walk - Ridley moves his feet faster, making stomping noises.

Dash - Ridley glides forward.

Crouch - Ridley is on all fours, with is wings closed tight.

Jump - Ridley leaps upwards.

Backwards Jump - Ridley uses his tail to push himself up.

Midair Jump 1, 2, 3 - Ridley flaps his wings.

Midair Dodge - Ridley quickly flaps away from the screen.

Glide - Ridley's wings are extended out as he glides through the air.

Shield - Ridley conceals himself with his wings.

Forward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.

Backward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.

Sidestep Dodge - Ridley leans to the side towards the screen.

Up Taunt - Ridley spreads his wings out and screeches up into the air.

Side Taunt - Ridley flies up a little, performs a back flip loop, and roars forward.

Down Taunt - Ridley screeches forward on all fours.


Ground Attacks
A, A, A - Ridley performs two claw swipes, followed by a lunging bite.

Dash A - Ridley drills forward, striking opponents multiple times.

Strong A (Side) - Ridley whips his tail forward.

Strong A (Down) - Ridley open his wings forward, whacking enemies in front of him with them.

Strong A (Up) - A crescent tail swipe upward.

Smash A (Side) - Ridley performs a huge lunging bite.

Smash A (Down) - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings extended out.

Smash A (Up) - Ridley jumps up a little while clapping his wings together above him.


Aerial Attacks
A - Ridley performs two quick claw swipes.

Smash A (Front) - A quick lunging bite to the front.

Smash A (Back) - Ridley claps his wings behind him.

Smash A (Down) - Ridley drills his tail downward.

Smash A (Up) - Ridley claps his wings upward.


Grabs
Z - Ridley snatches the opponent with one hand.

A - Ridley whips the enemy with his tail.

Front - Ridley grasps onto the opponent's shoulders, places his feet on their chest, and pushes off of them, propelling them back.

Back - Ridley slips one of his open wings underneath the foe's feet and catapults them backwards by flapping his wing back.

Down - Ridley throws the enemy down and performs a midair flip, striking enemies twice with his wings.

Up - Ridley slashes the enemy upwards a little, flies up, and then throws them forward.


Special Moves
B: Plasma Burst - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will fire forward a beam of plasma with limited range. Enemies caught in the beam will be damaged multiple times and knocked back. The duration, size, and distance of the beam depends on how long you charged the attack. The charge is saveable.

Smash B: Take Down - Ridley rushes forward. If he catches an opponent, Ridley will grab them, hurl them upwards, catch them in midair, and drill them into the ground, creating a small tremor that damages nearby opponents. This attack can only be triggered if an opponent is caught during the rush.

Down B: Cyclone - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will spin on the ground, with his wings extended out for 2-5 seconds (depends on how long the attack was charged). Enemies caught in this will be juggled and damaged multiple times, followed by Ridley breaking out of the spin, knocking enemies back. The charge is not savable.

Up B: Crescent Launch - Ridley simply speeds upwards, with his wings tucked in. At the pinnacle of the technique, Ridley will spread his wings into a freefall. Opponents are damaged from the initial launch.

Final Smash: Sky Splitter - Ridley roars and dashes forward. If he comes in contact with an opponent, he'll fly up with them in his hands, drop them in midair, and then fly off the screen. Ridley will then keep them suspended in the air by continuously soaring back and forth on and off the screen, thrusting through the suspended foe. Afterwards, Ridley will then soar upwards through the foe, launching them up, and come down on them from above, creating a lightning bolt that strikes downward through the opponent and onto the stage. If Ridley does not grab an opponent during the beginning of the Final Smash, then the Sky Splitter will fail.


The King of the Kremlings: King K. Rool

(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/AznTamJam/KingK.Rool2.jpg)

I was really confident that this croc would make it in, but he isn't even a boss or even an Assist Trophy... He simply holds the place of a plain old trophy... And the music representation is nowhere near enough to give this guy the recognition he deserves.

Stats
Power - 5/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 1.5/5
Running Speed - 1.5/5
Jumping - 1/5
Height - Tall
Weight - Heavy


Visuals

Appearance - Emerges onto the stage by jumping onto it, making the ground shake.

Fighting Pose - K. Rool stands with his forearms raised, like in Donkey Kong Country

Slow Walk - A steady march forward.

Fast Walk - A faster march forward..

Dash - K. Rool sprints forward, like in DKC.

Crouch - K. Rool lays on his belly.

Jump - K. Rool tries to propel himself up.

Back Jump - K. Rool jumps away, going backwards.

Midair Jump - K. Rool flips in the air.

Midair Back Jump - A back flip.

Midair Dodge - K. Rool spins in the air towards the screen.

Shield - K. Rool raises his forearms in a blocking stance.

Forward Roll - K. Rool performs a basic roll forward.

Backward Roll - K. Rool performs a basic roll backwards.

Sidestep Dodge - K. Rool clumsly dodges, leaning away from the screen.

Up Taunt - K. Rool throws his crown up and catches it.

Side Taunt - K. Rool breaks out in laughter.

Down Taunt - K. Rool flexes, while admiring his impressive muscles.


Ground Attacks
A, A, A - Two mighty arms swings, followed by lunging belly thrust.

Dash A - K. Rool launches his belly forward into a body slam.

Strong A (Side) - A palm strike forward.

Strong A (Down) - K. Rool sweeps his arm below him.

Strong A (Up) - A headbutt upwards.

Smash A (Side) - K. Rool leaps forward, belly first.

Smash A (Down) - K. Rool falls forward, creating a small shockwave with his belly.

Smash A (Up) - A giant uppercut upwards.


Aerial Attacks
A - A belly flop.

Smash A (Front) - K. Rool performs a huge lunging punch forward.

Smash A (Back) - A spinning backhand.

Smash A (Down) - K. Rool performs a belly flop downward, spiking enemies beneath him.

Smash A (Up) - K. Rool claps his hands above him.


Grabs
Z - A bear hug grab.

A - A quick headbutt.

Front - K. Rool shoulder rushes the opponent.

Back - A simple hurl to the back.

Down - K. Rool throws the enemy down and hurls his crown at them.

Up - A headbutt upwards.


Special Moves
B: Crown Toss - This attack is chargeable, but the charge can't be saved. When released, King K. Rool will throw his crown forward. Opponents will be striked multiple times and be launched back when the crown reaches its maximum distance. Opponents only get hit once when the crown is recoiling, though. More charge results in more distance, thus causing more hits and damage.

Smash B: Blunderbuss Shot - King K. Rool pulls out his Blunderbuss and aims. Use the control stick to aim around the radius of the King, and press B to fire. When fired, a cannonball will be shot out, hitting hard. When the cannonball touches the ground, it will dissappear. King K. Rool can only fire once the previously shot Cannonball dissappears. Occasionally, King. K. Rool will shoot out a Spiky Cannonball, causing extreme damage and knockback.

Down B: Cannonball Barrage - King K. Rool jumps up and lands back down, causing two cannonballs to drop from the sky and land on either side of him, dissappearing when they touch terrain. Has a bit of lag time towards the end.

Up B: Kremling Kopter - King K. Rool straps on his Kremling Kopter and starts flying. Use the control stick to direct King K. Rool's flight path. The blades on the Kopter can damage opponents.

Final Smash: Abandon Ship - King K. Rool will jump straight up. He will then end up on the other side of the stage. Upon landing, cannonballs will start raining down from the sky consecutively across the whole length of the screen. They act the same way as his Cannonball Barrage. Occasionally, a bigger, spiked cannonball may fall, resulting in massive damage and knockback. King K. Rool will keep jumping back and forth, and stop after a certain amount of time.


The Ferocious Swordsman: Samurai Goroh

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/dd/200px-Samurai_Goroh.jpeg)

I remember an incident of playing Smash... My little cousin said, "Hey, who's using the fat guy with the sword? Stop hitting me!!" Well, I wish someone was using him, but unfortunately, that wasn't the case. He had his place as an AT, and he doesn't deserve it... Come on, Falcon needs someone to fight with... Or against.

Stats
Power - 3.5/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 3/5
Running Speed - 2/5
Jumping - 2.5/5
Height - Tall
Weight - Medium-Heavy


Visuals

Appearance - Rides in on the Fire Stingray and jumps out.

Fighting Pose - Goroh stands with his legs spread out and one arm held tightly onto his scabbard, with his sword sheathed within.

Slow Walk - A steady strafe forward.

Fast Walk - A faster strafe.

Dash - Goroh runs forward, with both arms gripped on his scabbard and sword hilt.

Crouch - Goroh simply crouches, with one hand on the ground.

Jump - He jumps.

Back Jump - He jumps away.

Midair Jump - Goroh performs a front flip..

Midair Back Jump - A backflip.

Midair Dodge - Goroh leans forward towards the screen.

Shield - Goroh unsheathes his sword halfway and uses the blade to block.

Forward Roll - Goroh somersaults forward.

Backward Roll - Goroh somersaults backwards.

Sidestep Dodge - Goroh crouches towards the screen.

Up Taunt - Goroh crosses his arms and laughs.

Side Taunt - Goroh unsheathes his sword, spins, and points it forward.

Down Taunt - Goroh lifts up one foot, and crashes it down, with his hands on his knees (think sumo).


Ground Attacks
A, A, A... - Goroh performs a roundhouse kick with the right leg, a spinning back wheel kick with the left leg, and follows up with a barrage of sword swipes.

Dash A - A simple shoulder rush.

Strong A (Side) - Goroh spins and strikes forward with the butt of his scabbard.

Strong A (Down) - Goroh swipes the ground quickly with a slash of the sword.

Strong A (Up) - Goroh spins while slashing upwards.

Smash A (Side) - Goroh performs a spin, followed by a tremendous diagonal slash downward.

Smash A (Down) - Goroh performs a spinning wheel kick on the ground followed by a sweeping slash.

Smash A (Up) - Goroh performs two wide crescent slashes upwards.


Aerial Attacks
A - Three quick sword slashes.

Smash A (Front) - A quick downward, vertical slash.

Smash A (Back) - Goroh performs a spinning axe kick to the back, spiking opponents.

Smash A (Down) - Goroh flips upside down and slashes downward twice.

Smash A (Up) - Goroh slashes upwards three times.


Grabs
Z - A simple lapel grab.

A - Goroh unsheathes his sword slightly, striking at the gut of his opponent with the butt of his sword's hilt.

Front - Goroh swings the opponent behind him a few times and then hurls them forward.

Back - Goroh performs a jumping slash over the opponent, and kicks them back.

Down - Goroh simply throws the opponent down.

Up - Goroh throws the opponent up.


Special Moves
B: Stingray Flash - After an initial spin, Goroh will perform two quick slashes, each producing a slashing blast that take the shape of Goroh's sword swing. Goroh then sheathes his sword.

Smash B: Fire Rush - Goroh starts running in place to charge up. When released, Goroh will run forward, releasing a barrage of slashes (derived from his Assist Trophy). However, if the attack is fully charged, his slashes will be consumed in flames. He will be exhausted and pant for a second or two upon a full charge, though.

Down B: Stun Bomb - Goroh pulls out a Stun Bomb and throws it down. It will then flash, stunning nearby foes. Because of the effect of this attack, the Stun Bomb will have lots of startup time. Opponents with higher percentages will be stunned longer. Foes can't be stunned in the air.

Up B: Lunar Slash - Goroh performs a high jumping slash. At the pinnacle of the jump, Goroh will perform a front flipping slash, spiking enemies downward.

Final Smash: Fire Stingray - Works the same way as Captain Falcon's Blue Falcon. Goroh will call for his vehicle, the Fire Stingray. If enemies are hit by the initial drive in, Goroh will hop into his vehicle. Opponents will then be hurled onto a track. Samurai Goroh will yell out, "FIRE STINGRAY!!!", but instead of driving through the opponents, Goroh will leap out of the vehicle, with his sword out. The screen will go black and three slash marks will appear through the screen. Then, the screen returns to the regular stage, and enemies caught by the initial drive in will be sent flying as a result of the three slashes.


The Shining Fighter Robo: Ray

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/Cheesedork_bucket/Brawl/Helper/raymkiii.jpg)

Note that since there are many models of Ray, Smash Bros. would most likely just use the most recent model (Ray MK III, in this case) and call it Ray...

Ray was almost meant to be in Smash Bros., and size doesn't matter (as noted with Olimar). He has an arsenal of weapons, and would be pretty cool as a robot fighter in the Smash Bros. arena!

Stats
Power - 3/5
Range - 3.5/5
Attacking Speed - 4/5
Running Speed - 2.5/5
Jumping - 3/5
Height - Tall
Weight - Medium-Heavy


Visuals

Appearance - Ray breaks out of a capsule.

Fighting Pose - Ray stands upright with his arms chambered on either side of him.

Slow Walk - A steady strafe forward.

Fast Walk - A fast march.

Dash - Ray jets forward.

Crouch - A basic crouch.

Jump - Ray uses his jet pack to boost him up.

Back Jump - Ray uses his jet pack to boost him back.

Midair Jump - Ray performs a somersault.

Midair Back Jump - A backflip.

Midair Dodge - Ray leans back, towards the screen.

Shield - Ray raises his forearms.

Forward Roll - An athletic roll forward.

Backward Roll - Ray somersaults back.

Sidestep Dodge - Ray crouches towards the screen.

Up Taunt - Ray pulls out his Blaster and shoots it up. The blast can actually strike opponents.

Side Taunt - Ray inspects his arm by adjusting it and whatnot.

Down Taunt - Ray hovers a bit while charging up.


Ground Attacks
A, A, A - Two jabs, followed by a somersault kick, launching opponents up.

Dash A - Ray performs a lunging drop kick.

Strong A (Side) - A quick roundhouse kick.

Strong A (Down) - Ray performs a spinning wheel kick to the front.

Strong A (Up) - Two kick kicks upward.

Smash A (Side) - Ray thrusts his arm forward, striking with the rocket launcher attached to it.

Smash A (Down) - Ray shoots a rocket at the ground in front of him with his arm rocket.

Smash A (Up) - Ray performs a handstand and thrusts both legs up.


Aerial Attacks
A - Ray performs 4 spinning kicks consecutively.

Smash A (Front) - Ray performs a double thrust kick forward.

Smash A (Back) - Ray strikes with his arm rocket to the back.

Smash A (Down) - A drill kick downward.

Smash A (Up) - Ray creates an explosion above him using his arm rocket.


Grabs
Z - A simple lapel grab.

A - Ray jabs the opponent.

Front - Ray punches the opponent with his arm rocket, and launches them back by firing it.

Back - Ray grabs onto the opponents shoulders and leaps over them, following up with a spinning wheel kick.

Down - Ray hovers and spins intensely fast, with the opponent in his grasps. He then throws the opponent down after multiple spins.

Up - Ray throws the opponent up slightly and shoots them with his Blaster.


Special Moves
B: Ray Blaster - Ray takes out a Blaster and shoots three green lasers forward. Ray is able to change the arc of lasers coming out by pressing up or down before firing. Up creates a cone of three lasers going gradually up, and vice versa.

Smash B: Double Rockets - Ray shoots out two rockets from his arm rocket at the same time. The rockets fly at an angle upward, and then nosedive vertically after reaching a certain distance.

Down B: Sensor Pod - Ray sets down a Sensor Pod. which will strafe back and forth in a very limited space. If an opponent touches the Pod, it will explode. Projectiles can set off the Pod. Ray can get hit by his own Pod. Only one may be laid at a time. Ray can also manually set the Pod off by pressing Down B again.

Up B: Jet Boost - Ray hovers using his Jet Pack. Works like R.O.B.'s, except it provides more horizontal distance at the cost of vertical distance.

Final Smash: Ray Ultra - Ray upgrades into Ray Ultra, a Ray model built for the Smash Bros. series. Ray Ultra gains increased attack, speed, and jumping, as well as upgraded special moves.

B: Dragon Launcher - Ray shoots forward a giant stream of lasers that appears as a dragon. The dragon can be arced up or down.

Smash B: Homing Rockets - Ray shoots out multiple Rockets in one shot, which will home in on opponents, gaining speed as they gain distance.

Down B: Seeker Pod - Ray releases a Seeker Pod, which will seek out the nearest opponent and latch onto them, until it explodes.

Up B: Jet Boost - It's the same, except Ray has infinite fuel and more vertical distance.



The Young Cadet: Will

(http://www.ugo.com/images/galleries/advancewarsdaysofruin_games/advancewarsdaysofruin_21.jpg)

I was never really knowledged about Nintendo's "Wars" franchise, but it has come to my attention that it's basically a futuristic Fire Emblem. Anyway, from the latest "Advanced Wars" game hailed the main character, Will. It'd be nice for the "Wars" franchise to gain some recognition, so here's Will!!

Stats
Power - 2/5
Range - 3/5
Attacking Speed - 4/5
Running Speed - 3.5/5
Jumping - 3/5
Height - Medium-Tall
Weight - Medium


Visuals

Appearance - Will jumps down from a rope from atop a Carrier Aircraft.

Fighting Pose - Will stands with his back forearm raise, and his front arm hanging in the front.

Slow Walk - A steady strafe forward.

Fast Walk - A fast march.

Dash - Will sprints forward.

Crouch - A basic crouch.

Jump - A simple leap upwards.

Back Jump - A simple leap backwards.

Midair Jump - Will performs a somersault.

Midair Back Jump - A backflip.

Midair Dodge - Will leans back, towards the screen.

Shield - Will raises his forearms.

Forward Roll - Will dives forward, and shoulder rolls.

Backward Roll - Will somersaults back.

Sidestep Dodge - Will leans back, away from the screen.

Up Taunt - Will crosses his arms and looks back, in a relaxed stance.

Side Taunt - Will points forward and yells, "You can't stop me that easily...!"

Down Taunt - Will brushes his hair as he says, "You should try harder...!"


Ground Attacks
A, A - Will performs a hook punch with his left hand, and an uppercut with the right, which launches opponents up.

Dash A - Will slides on the ground, sliding his heel forward.

Strong A (Side) - A quick roundhouse kick.

Strong A (Down) - Will performs a quick front kick forward while crouching.

Strong A (Up) - Will performs a thrusting vertical kick.

Smash A (Side) - Will spins backwards while performing two jumping kicks.

Smash A (Down) - Will performs a low stomp kick forward, followed by a spinning sweep kick backwards.

Smash A (Up) - Will performs a jump, spinning uppercut.


Aerial Attacks
A - Will spins in the air, performs three consecutive kicks.

Smash A (Front) - Will performs a drill kick forward.

Smash A (Back) - Will performs a back flip, bringing his feet down upon enemies, spiking them.

Smash A (Down) - Will performs a single heel stomp downward, spiking enemies.

Smash A (Up) - Will kicks upwards twice.


Grabs
Z - A simple lapel grab.

A - Will knee jabs the foe's gut.

Front - Will performs a lunging knee into the foe, launching them back.

Back - A simple throw backwards.

Down - Will throws the enemy down and elbows them.

Up - Will kicks the enemy upwards.


Special Moves
B: Battle Rifle - Will pulls out a Battle Rifle. Press B once to take out the Rifle, and press/hold B to fire forward a stream of cartoonish, over-sized bullets, and shield to put it away. After about 15 shots, Will must reload it, which takes about 2 seconds. To reload during gunfire, simply press down+B. Will doesn't recover shots after putting away his Rifle.

Smash B: Grenade Launcher - Will pulls out a Grenade Launcher. Press B once to take out the Launcher, and B again to fire, and shield to put it away. Use the control stick to aim around the radius of Will. When fired, a grenade will be shot out of the Launcher, exploding on impact with terrain of an opponent. Note that the Grenade obeys the laws of gravity, so it will fall upon launch. After two shots, Will must reload, which takes about two seconds. To reload while firing, press down+B.

Down B: Time Bomb - Will sets down a Time Bomb. Press Down B again to set off the timer, which is 5 seconds. The Time Bomb has a personal jetpack, allowing it to be used in the air.

Up B: Bayonet Rifle - Will pulls out two Bayonet Rifles, and fires them downward, propelling him up. The Rifles fire off multiple, over-sized pellets that strike enemies multiple times. Since the Rifles have blades on the barrels, Will swings them downward before firing, which can spike enemies.

Final Smash: Air Strike - Will talks into a walkie-talkie, and jumps off the screen. Then, planes will start flying above the stage, sending down a barrage of bombs and missles. After about 5-7 seconds of this, the planes stop coming, and Will jumps back onto the stage.


The Clone Pokemon: Mewtwo

(http://www.ugo.com/games/super-smash-bros-characters/images/Mewtwo.jpg)

Ahhhh, yes... Mewtwo. We all missed him. Why he was booted is yet to be uncovered. Some say because 4th generation needed a rep ( :| ), while others say he was simply just too unpopular and weak to even make it through ( :| ). Regardless of the reason, everyone wishes Mewtwo was back, instead of being "replaced" by Lucario... So here he is, and much stronger, too :D

**Note that all of Mewtwo's attacks gain extra range, thanks to a Psychic extension that comes out of all his normal attacks (similar to Bowser and Wolf's claw swipes). Also, all attacks with [Melee] means that they are the same as Melee's.**

Stats
Power - 4/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 2.5/5
Running Speed - 3/5
Jumping - 4/5
Height - Tall
Weight - Medium


Visuals

Appearance - Mewtwo teleports in with the aid of dark flames.

Fighting Pose - [Melee]

Slow Walk - [Melee]

Fast Walk - [Melee]

Dash - [Melee]

Crouch - Mewtwo literally sinks into the floor, only showing his upper torso.

Jump - [Melee]

Back Jump - [Melee]

Midair Jump - [Melee]

Midair Back Jump - [Melee]

Midair Dodge - [Melee]

Glide - Mewtwo simply glides, as if he were dashing in the air.

Shield - [Melee]

Forward Roll - [Melee]

Backward Roll - [Melee]

Sidestep Dodge - [Melee]

Up Taunt - Mewtwo spins and floats upwards while cackling.

Side Taunt - Mewtwo turns his back to the front, and looks forward while performing his trademark cry from the games.

Down Taunt - [Melee]


Ground Attacks
A, A, A - Mewtwo performs two simple hand swipes with one hand and presses his other palm forward.

Dash A - Mewtwo presses his palms forward, creating a small, dark vortex that damages enemies multiple times.

Strong A (Side) - [Melee]

Strong A (Down) - Mewtwo sweeps his hand to the front.

Strong A (Up) - [Melee]

Smash A (Side) - Mewtwo retracts his palms and thrusts them forward, creating dark flames that will damage enemies multiple times.

Smash A (Down) - Mewtwo points down on either side of him, creating dark explosions on both sides.

Smash A (Up) - Mewtwo raises his palms while spinning upwards, damaging enemies multiple times with dark flames. Afterward, Mewtwo fans his arms out, creating a dark explosion above him.


Aerial Attacks
A - [Melee]

Smash A (Front) - [Melee]

Smash A (Back) - Mewtwo wags his tail behind him twice.

Smash A (Down) - [Melee]

Smash A (Up) - [Melee]


Grabs
Z - [Melee]

A - [Melee]

Front - Mewtwo playfully flips the opponent over a few times and flings them forward.

Back - [Melee]

Down - [Melee]

Up - [Melee]


Special Moves
B: Shadow Ball - Press B to charge up and B again to fire. Mewtwo charges up dark balls of energy in both palms and, when released, will fire up to 6 Shadow Balls (three from each palm) forward, exploding on impact with an electrifying shock. The longer this move is charged, more balls will be fired, and the size of the balls will also grow. This charge can be saved.

Smash B: Confusion - Mewtwo performs a simple hand gesture, and a row of dark flames arises in front of him, striking opponents upwards in dark flames. The longer Mewtwo goes without using Confusion, the more ferocious the flames become.

Down B: Barrier - Mewtwo spins once, with a protective shield covering him. If any attack comes in contact with him during these frames, he'll immediatly stop spinning and break out of his Barrier, sending dark blasts flying around him. The power of the blasts depend on the power of the attack that Mewtwo came in contact with.

Up B: Teleport - [Melee]

Final Smash: Psychic Power - Mewtwo floats up and spreads his hands out, creating a large forefield around him. Opponents caught in the forcefield will be helplessly lifted off their feet and start spinning in place (similar to opponents caught in Ike's Final Smash). Mewtwo will then start laughing while "sitting" in the air as all opponents caught in the forcefield are shocked continuously. Mewtwo then charge up and thrust his arms out, causing the forecfield to explode in an array of dark flames, launching opponents away. If the initial forcefield release doesn't catch any opponents, then Psychic Power will fail.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Lotos on August 02, 2008, 02:42:02 PM
I can't wait for K. Rool.  Don't forget about his Kaptain, Baronstien, and Krusha forms!
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Playat on August 02, 2008, 02:44:36 PM
Cool. Don't forget about Shadow the Hedgehog and Dixie Kong
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Ugawa on August 02, 2008, 02:50:28 PM
What about Banjo/Kazooie???
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Nayrman on August 02, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
Please do Geno from Super Mario RPG. Nintendo was actually looking into it but Square-Enix didn't feel like going through with it and immediately canned the idea. So Geno was one of those "going to if..." characters. Sadly we didn't get to see him, and the hard work of an oldsider member and friend of mine FATMANONICE very disappointed (a petition of over 2000 signatures from various forums to include Geno, five full movesets and an drawing of an updated look from a professional artist!).
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: QingXin on August 02, 2008, 04:50:15 PM
Quote from: Lotos on August 02, 2008, 02:42:02 PM
I can't wait for K. Rool.  Don't forget about his Kaptain, Baronstien, and Krusha forms!
You mean as transformations, or something? I'll be using weapons and items from each, but not physical transformations  :(
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 02, 2008, 02:44:36 PM
Cool. Don't forget about Shadow the Hedgehog and Dixie Kong
My thread is based on practicality. They're both practical to an extent, but I'm a little icky on them.
Quote from: Ugawa on August 02, 2008, 02:50:28 PM
What about Banjo/Kazooie???
I've never actually did an in-depth article on the bear and bird, so it would be interesting to make a movelist for them. Ahhh, I miss Banjo Kazooie/Tooie.
Quote from: Nayrman on August 02, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
Please do Geno from Super Mario RPG. Nintendo was actually looking into it but Square-Enix didn't feel like going through with it and immediately canned the idea. So Geno was one of those "going to if..." characters. Sadly we didn't get to see him, and the hard work of an oldsider member and friend of mine FATMANONICE very disappointed (a petition of over 2000 signatures from various forums to include Geno, five full movesets and an drawing of an updated look from a professional artist!).
Well, I was actually pretty anti-Geno at some point, but I'll include him, nonetheless, so no need to keep your fingers crossed ;)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on August 02, 2008, 06:10:57 PM
Marina Lightyears should Really be added to this list.

She's from the game, "Mischief Makers".
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Nayrman on August 02, 2008, 06:13:11 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on August 02, 2008, 06:10:57 PM
Marina Lightyears should Really be added to this list.

She's from the game, "Mischief Makers".
she really wasn't on the "going to cut it" list I don't think X_X;;
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Post by: CommanderFlint on August 03, 2008, 02:32:12 PM
You should do Isaac from Golden Sun(Not Felix...>_> I don't know why some people want him more than Isaac, Isaac is way more important then Felix)) and Will from Advance Wars : Days of Ruin(I would have said Andy, but I ready do think he wasn't in Brawl, because his combat skill would be like Snake's so I said Will since he's from the latest one and has actually fought before).
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Nayrman on August 03, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 03, 2008, 02:32:12 PM
You should do Isaac from Golden Sun(Not Felix...>_> I don't know why some people want him more than Isaac, Isaac is way more important then Felix)) and Will from Advance Wars : Days of Ruin(I would have said Andy, but I ready do think he wasn't in Brawl, because his combat skill would be like Snake's so I said Will since he's from the latest one and has actually fought before).
Isaac is the definitive AT that should've been playable. For some reason Nintendo hates Golden Sun...they act like we were lucky to get an AT and music X_X;;
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Tupin on August 03, 2008, 03:14:25 PM
Animal Crosser and Geno.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 03, 2008, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 03, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 03, 2008, 02:32:12 PM
You should do Isaac from Golden Sun(Not Felix...>_> I don't know why some people want him more than Isaac, Isaac is way more important then Felix)) and Will from Advance Wars : Days of Ruin(I would have said Andy, but I ready do think he wasn't in Brawl, because his combat skill would be like Snake's so I said Will since he's from the latest one and has actually fought before).
Isaac is the definitive AT that should've been playable. For some reason Nintendo hates Golden Sun...they act like we were lucky to get an AT and music X_X;;
Yeah I agree Isaac should have been playable(Sol Sacutum or Venus Lighthouse for stage!)....BUT ADVANCE WARS GOT ONLY A AT, TROPHY, AND STICKERS. EVEN THROUGH IN JAPAN IT'S GOT A TOTAL OF 14 GAMES UNDER IT'S BELT. D:<
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Java on August 03, 2008, 05:53:00 PM
How has Krystal not been mentioned. I also support Animal Crosser along with the rest of your "SWCs".
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Water ☮ on August 03, 2008, 11:57:16 PM
Needs more Gardevoir and Krystal!
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 04, 2008, 12:11:16 AM
Does SWCs stand for Star Wars Characters?

And if you would seriously do it, it would be awesome to see a Vector moveset made by you, regardless of the fact that everybody else hates him and that he would never be in.

And as for a character that should have been there:

Chibi Robo
Mii
Pacman
Someone from a Mario RPG
Ect.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Rouge Helios on August 04, 2008, 12:29:27 AM
If Ridley isn't on the next SSB, I'm gonna be mad. >_>
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Nayrman on August 04, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
dangit corn youre the only one who wants Eggplant Wizard...
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: QingXin on August 04, 2008, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 04, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
dangit corn youre the only one who wants Eggplant Wizard...
You really can't jump to that conclusion. I am actually a "mild" supporter...

He would be a great villain rep for KI.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Rouge Helios on August 05, 2008, 12:43:18 AM
I just realized something, Ridley would be like a Hybrid between Charizard and Bowser. >.>
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: QingXin on August 05, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphus on August 05, 2008, 12:43:18 AM
I just realized something, Ridley would be like a Hybrid between Charizard and Bowser. >.>
Nothing at all.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *King K. Rool added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 07:07:44 AM
Ok, I'm adding Samurai Goroh right after this post ;)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 06, 2008, 07:11:46 AM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 04, 2008, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 04, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
dangit corn youre the only one who wants Eggplant Wizard...
You really can't jump to that conclusion. I am actually a "mild" supporter...

He would be a great villain rep for KI.
What about Medusa? And not generic wizard? (course he would kick ass as a enemy)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *King K. Rool added!*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 06, 2008, 07:13:28 AM
btw would it be Meta Ridley or Regular Ridley?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 07:44:41 AM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 06, 2008, 07:11:46 AM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 04, 2008, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 04, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
dangit corn youre the only one who wants Eggplant Wizard...
You really can't jump to that conclusion. I am actually a "mild" supporter...

He would be a great villain rep for KI.
What about Medusa? And not generic wizard? (course he would kick ass as a enemy)
Ummm, you mean Eggplant Wizard is just a generic enemy? Oh wow, that changes everything.
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 06, 2008, 07:13:28 AM
btw would it be Meta Ridley or Regular Ridley?
Regular. I guess Meta Ridley would offer missles and stuff, too, though...
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: Ridley on August 06, 2008, 08:08:53 AM
You know I think you should have made an edit post. Anyway, if I see one I really like, I might do something special with it.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 09:59:55 AM
Quote from: Ridley on August 06, 2008, 08:08:53 AM
You know I think you should have made an edit post. Anyway, if I see one I really like, I might do something special with it.
Edit post, Schmedit post, I don't think it really matters... My LoZ topic (which is AWESOME... It's in my siggy) is 10x longer than this, currently, and there's no edit posts :O

What do you mean by, "special" o_o
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: Cornwad on August 06, 2008, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 06, 2008, 07:11:46 AM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 04, 2008, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 04, 2008, 11:00:02 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 04, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Don't forget Eggplant Wizard :P
You made a commitment when you created that move set ;D
dangit corn youre the only one who wants Eggplant Wizard...
You really can't jump to that conclusion. I am actually a "mild" supporter...

He would be a great villain rep for KI.
What about Medusa? And not generic wizard? (course he would kick ass as a enemy)
Eggplant Wizard is easily one of the more recognizable characters in the two games... not to mention there is a "The" Eggplant Wizard in the Captain N show (but you may not want to count that :P)

The reason I don't think Medusa would work is because it's a wall with an eye and a mouth :D
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ridley added*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
I actually think Palutena would make a better second Kid Icarus rep than Medusa or Eggplant Wizard combined.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: Cornwad on August 06, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
Yeah...
If KI gets another rep, it will be Palutena, Eggplant Wizard, or the Grim Reaper ;D

I'm just hoping its Eggplant Wizard :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 12:31:17 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 06, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
Yeah...
If KI gets another rep, it will be Palutena, Eggplant Wizard, or the Grim Reaper ;D

I'm just hoping its Eggplant Wizard :P
I think Palutena would be pretty sweet. She would represent for more female characters which is awesome, and she would have a mix of cool physical attacks with her staff and flashy magic attacks, too!
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: Cornwad on August 06, 2008, 12:33:20 PM
Quote from: TamJammerz on August 06, 2008, 12:31:17 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 06, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
Yeah...
If KI gets another rep, it will be Palutena, Eggplant Wizard, or the Grim Reaper ;D

I'm just hoping its Eggplant Wizard :P
I think Palutena would be pretty sweet. She would represent for more female characters which is awesome, and she would have a mix of cool physical attacks with her staff and flashy magic attacks, too!
Yeah... but then Pit would need a new FS D:
I just hope Eggplant Wizard at least has a trophy in the next one...
He's one of the few KI stickers, but he deserves more  :)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Samurai Goroh added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 06, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
I would give Pit my original concept for his Final Smash... Oh boy, my movelist vibe is coming on.

Final Smash: Heaven's Wrath - Pit flies up to the top of the screen and holds his bow up high. Light when then start shooting into Pit's bow, creating a giant bow glowing with all the colors of the spectrum. Pit then aims downward. Using the control stick to aim, fire off large energy arrows that deal massive damage and knockback. Pit has 10 shots, but the FS can also end after a time limit, so use all the shots!
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 09, 2008, 11:36:24 AM
Ray added. Check it out ;)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: Eizweir on August 09, 2008, 07:46:52 PM
Sothe should've been in instead of Ike./color]
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 10, 2008, 05:28:08 AM
Quote from: Marth Xero on August 09, 2008, 07:46:52 PM
Sothe should've been in instead of Ike./color]
I'm guessing you want Sothe in the Newcomers list?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: Red on August 11, 2008, 06:18:23 AM
I like what you did with Ray. But I think they would go with Ray 01 for 2 reasons. 1.The GC version sold more than the DS version, and 2. The GC version alreay had decent graphics, which would make it easier to transfer to the Wii. I know that Pit and Ice Climbes where only sprites and they were in, but it just seems more likely this way.

I also wanna see Megaman in there. I wanted him as the last third party but Sakurai only put in two. >:o
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 11, 2008, 06:58:59 AM
Quote from: RedSox on August 11, 2008, 06:18:23 AM
I like what you did with Ray. But I think they would go with Ray 01 for 2 reasons. 1.The GC version sold more than the DS version, and 2. The GC version alreay had decent graphics, which would make it easier to transfer to the Wii. I know that Pit and Ice Climbes where only sprites and they were in, but it just seems more likely this way.

I also wanna see Megaman in there. I wanted him as the last third party but Sakurai only put in two. >:o
Well, I like Ray MKIII just because he looks much more slick and mobile... I just think he would fit in with Smash Bros., more :O
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 06:31:31 PM
Since Geno has already been requested, how about Takamaru from Nazo no Murasume Ju (AKA the Mystery of Murasume Castle)? He's going to be making an appearance in Captain Rainbow later this year and hopefully that will mark his revival.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 11, 2008, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 06:31:31 PM
Since Geno has already been requested, how about Takamaru from Nazo no Murasume Ju (AKA the Mystery of Murasume Castle)? He's going to be making an appearance in Captain Rainbow later this year and hopefully that will mark his revival.
I'm actually second-guessing Geno, right now :|

About Takamaru, another Japan-only character, I assumeeeeeeee?


Also, to all you Golden Sun and Advanced War fanatics, what would be decent Special Moves for Isaac or Andy [or some other AW rep]...?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: tibar21 on August 11, 2008, 07:13:26 PM
krystal from starfox was supposed to be in.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
Second guessing meaning you don't know how to do his moveset or do you mean giving it a second thought because you don't like the character? If that's the case, I could do it and you could just post it on the front page. Also, Takamaru is currently a Japanese exclusive character, yes.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 11, 2008, 07:59:12 PM
Quote from: Fatmanonice on August 11, 2008, 07:14:48 PM
Second guessing meaning you don't know how to do his moveset or do you mean giving it a second thought because you don't like the character? If that's the case, I could do it and you could just post it on the front page. Also, Takamaru is currently a Japanese exclusive character, yes.
It's my gut feeling, that's all I'm saying. And my little gut never lies :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: Triforceman22 on August 12, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Make a new moveset for roy please. :)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 12, 2008, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on August 12, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
Make a new moveset for roy please. :)
I thought I already posted one a gajillion years ago...

It was pretty sweet, though. I guess I could add it here, again. It had a projectile move ;)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 14, 2008, 08:47:17 PM
Will would rep AW, he could fight using a cartoonish looking rifle with a bayonet, use his CO Power and use explosives.

Isaac would use Earth based attacks and psynergy. Sword too. Also summons like Judgement or Cybeles.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 15, 2008, 08:54:32 AM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 14, 2008, 08:47:17 PM
Will would rep AW, he could fight using a cartoonish looking rifle with a bayonet, use his CO Power and use explosives.

Isaac would use Earth based attacks and psynergy. Sword too. Also summons like Judgement or Cybeles.
I guess that helps a little. I hear lots of talk about Andy, so I just assumed he was the best rep :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: BOSSNIG on August 15, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
I reccomend that Ray's Final smash be named Soul Boost. It seems similar to the Soul Boost ability in Arena.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Ray added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 15, 2008, 11:15:35 AM
Quote from: Darklink on August 15, 2008, 09:29:14 AM
I reccomend that Ray's Final smash be named Soul Boost. It seems similar to the Soul Boost ability in Arena.
Never played Custom Robo in my life, so I had no idea xD
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 15, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
Bayonet is basicly the "sword" of a gun so he can't use them to recover, but nice. :p And one of his special moves should use his CO Power(Rally Cry, which in game gave his units a movement and fire power boast)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 15, 2008, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on August 15, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
Bayonet is basicly the "sword" of a gun so he can't use them to recover, but nice. :p And one of his special moves should use his CO Power(Rally Cry, which in game gave his units a movement and fire power boast)
I thought the Bayonet was simply just a gun with a sword o_o. Whatever... I'll change it, later.

I'm aware of what his CO Power, is. I did a little research before making the moves ;) I just didn't know how to fit it in quite well. I mean, the only way I see a "power-up" Special Move be implemented is this:

Down B: Rally Cry - Hold B to charge. When released, Will will send out a yell, increasing his movement speed and attack power. The more charge-up, the longer the boost would last. Depending on how long you charged it, you can't use the move again from 30 seconds - 1 minute 30 seconds.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Java on August 15, 2008, 08:00:46 PM
Animal Crosser, please. ::)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 15, 2008, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 15, 2008, 08:00:46 PM
Animal Crosser, please. ::)
Some characters simply weren't meant for fighting. Hate to break it to you, Java, but ACer is one of them :| :| :|
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Java on August 15, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 15, 2008, 08:07:21 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 15, 2008, 08:00:46 PM
Animal Crosser, please. ::)
Some characters simply weren't meant for fighting. Hate to break it to you, Java, but ACer is one of them :| :| :|
You just pulled a Sakurai. :O

Animal Crosser has an axe, a net, a fishing rod, and a variety of different items at his disposal.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Cornwad on August 15, 2008, 09:35:21 PM
How about Tom Nook instead? :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 09:39:31 PM
Ok, here is a request from me:

CAPTAIN RAINBOW!

I wonder if it could work...
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Java on August 15, 2008, 09:58:18 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on August 15, 2008, 09:35:21 PM
How about Tom Nook instead? :P
Tom Nook would have less moves than Animal Crosser.

Also, there was a FS that I remembered that could work for either Tom Nook or Animal Crosser.

The character throws leaves all over the screen, and as they're falling they turn into furniture, which will drop down and hit your competitors.

That was basically just an outline.
You could expand on that idea.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: JrDude on August 17, 2008, 10:05:06 PM
You should add Mega Man X to that list.
Animal Crossing characters shall never be playable, they are not meant for fighting and I'm glad Xin agrees.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Java on August 17, 2008, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 17, 2008, 10:05:06 PM
You should add Mega Man X to that list.
Animal Crossing characters shall never be playable, they are not meant for fighting and I'm glad Xin agrees.
I'd rather he be just called Mega Man, but with X's appearance and abilities from his different forms.

I just don't see how an Animal Crossing character isn't meant for fighting...
Just because he comes from a non-fighting game?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: JrDude on August 17, 2008, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on August 17, 2008, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 17, 2008, 10:05:06 PM
You should add Mega Man X to that list.
Animal Crossing characters shall never be playable, they are not meant for fighting and I'm glad Xin agrees.
I'd rather he be just called Mega Man, but with X's appearance and abilities from his different forms.

I just don't see how an Animal Crossing character isn't meant for fighting...
Just because he comes from a non-fighting game?
That's not the reason but you could call it a reason.

But yeah they can call him Mega Man, but I'm SAYING Mega Man X because if I didn't say X, then you guys might think I mean the kiddie form.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 06:06:01 AM
I don't know much about Megaman and his abilities, so you guys should give me some backup about some of his moves and other thingers about him ;)

Also, Animal Crosser isn't going on this list. I'm sorry, he/she just isn't.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: Macawmoses on August 18, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
The Will one is horrible, imo. His Final should involve his CO Power, his moves involving the 'mini's' we see. Bayonnettes aren't part of the game, etc. Perhaps let an AW fan make that one...ugh
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: mackormoses on August 18, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
The Will one is horrible, imo. His Final should involve his CO Power, his moves involving the 'mini's' we see. Bayonnettes aren't part of the game, etc. Perhaps let an AW fan make that one...ugh
Please do. I know nothing about Advanced Wars :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: JrDude on August 18, 2008, 05:29:36 PM
Well here's his picture:
(http://www.igniq.com/images/mega_man_Maverick_Hunter_X_061205.jpg)
I don't know a whole lot about him, but I'll edit in what I know and what his moves should be (imo), other people can feel free to add some stuff because I only played like, 3 of his games or so. But the attacks I choose are based off Mega Man X (the first one)
I'm not gonna be as descriptive as you so here's what I got.
Side B: Zero Sword - Mega Man will slash out a green beam sword from his hand, this will change your A atacks into Beam sword-like attacks until you use another B move (besides Side B)
Up B: (Dunno)
Down B: Weapon Switch - Your belt will change color, and that color determines what type of attacks will come out of the Arm cannon (normaly his whole body's color switches, but with alternate costumes, it would probably be this way)
[Normal-Mode/Blue]
B: Blast/Charge Blast - you will shoot a little blast of energy, hold the attack button down and it will charge, you could move while you charge but you can't use any of your special attacks until you release the blast.
[Homing Torpedo-Mode/Green-Gray]
B: Homing Torpedo/Charged Torpedo - The user fires heat-seeking torpedoes which lock on to any foes in the vicinity/A fish-shaped torpedo bundle is fired and strafe on enemies.
[light Blue/Shotgun Ice]
B: Shotgun Ice/Ice Sled - The user fires a large shard of ice which shatters and reflects towards different directions upon impact/A hunk of ice is created, which flattens into a makeshift sled. It can be ridden on and hurt enemies on impact, but shatters when it hits something.
[Fire Wave/Red]
B: Fire Ball/Fire Wave - The user fires a short-range flame, harming foes in a large radius continuously/A fireball is thrown on the ground, and it creates vertical bursts of flames as it moves forward. The fireball will dissipate if it hits something or reaches a ledge.
[Boomerang Cutter/Gray]
B: Boomerang Cutter/Charged Cutter - Fires a small boomerang, if it does not hit an enemy. It will return to him, it can also carry small items back/4 green and glowing boomerangs of energy are fired out in a special pattern, then fly away from X diagonally.
[Chameleon Sting/Green]
B: Chameleon Sting/Charged Sting - The user fires a green laser that splits divergently into 3 separate lasers/A big green laser will shoot out.
[Electric Spark/Dark Yellow]
B: Electric Spark/Charged Spark - Same as Pikachu's except purple/A big purple electric ball will blast out.
[Storm Tornado/Purple]
B: Storm Tornado/Charged Tornado- Unleashes a powerful horizontal tornado that proceeds to engulf enemies in the user's path/A huge vertical twister is formed.
[Rolling Sheild/Pink]
B: Rolling Orb/Rolling Sheild - The user launches a blue orb that rolls across the ground. If it doesn't hit an enemy, it will bounce off a wall once, then disappear upon hitting another obstacle/A shield of energy surrounds the user and allows you to roll, the sheild will disappear after a while though.

Too lazy to do anymore :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: FruitFlow on August 18, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
Neutral B: Arm Cannon

Side B: Mega Ball

Down B: Weapon Copy

Up B: Mega Upper


Final Smash: Power Megaman, Super Megaman, or Hyper Megaman.

I'll edit in some more if I come up with more.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 06:49:55 PM
Hmmm... I've got a pretty sweet idea for Megaman. His Down B is an attack that switches the type of element that Megaman shoots out using his Neutral B... Ranging from Ice (chance of freezing), Fire (increased knockback), Normal (fastest firing rate), or some other elements.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: JrDude on August 18, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 06:49:55 PM
Hmmm... I've got a pretty sweet idea for Megaman. His Down B is an attack that switches the type of element that Megaman shoots out using his Neutral B... Ranging from Ice (chance of freezing), Fire (increased knockback), Normal (fastest firing rate), or some other elements.
Read my edited post plz.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 18, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Read my edited post plz.
You gotta factor in practicality, though. That's wayyyyy too many forms. I would narrow it down. Expect me to pull out, like 3-4 of those to use in my movelist ;)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: JrDude on August 18, 2008, 07:02:49 PM
Quote from: QingXin on August 18, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
Quote from: JrDude on August 18, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Read my edited post plz.
You gotta factor in practicality, though. That's wayyyyy too many forms. I would narrow it down. Expect me to pull out, like 3-4 of those to use in my movelist ;)
I expected that, but I just listed all the forms in Mega Man X that you could use.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 20, 2008, 07:37:21 AM
Wild MEWTWO has appeared!

Go, NSF MEMBER!

What will NSF MEMBER do?

>*Fight* Bag
   pkmn    Run

>*Read* Spam
   Flame   Post

NSF MEMBER used READ!

It's super-effective!
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 20, 2008, 02:59:44 PM
Cool Mewtwo moveset. I think the teleport should be a little bit longer than in melee.
Mewtwo's shadow ball should be an dark energy colour instead of the one in melee
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Zen127 on August 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Shoulda woulda couldas? What a name.  :|

And in Smash Terms, it's called Forward Tilt (Ftilt). Not Strong A (Side). Same with all others, there's Upward Tilt and Downward Tilt (Utilt and Dtilt). Either the people at the Smash World Forums changed the term to strong, or you play wayyy too much Street Fighter.

Mewtwo and Roy were in the game at some point, but scrapped for Wolf O'Donnel because of his popularity in Japan, and Sonic the Hedgehog because of worldwide fans begging for his appearance. Dr. Mario was also scrapped due to Sakurai's no clones rule and they had no time to make another move set for him. Geno was also argued over with Square Enix, but the darn fools were too lazy to allow Nintendo to add him. He wasn't developed in the game at a point though.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 20, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
Iz it possible for Mecha Sonic to be in brawl? His moveset should be made from scratch
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: FruitFlow on August 20, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 20, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
Iz it possible for Mecha Sonic to be in brawl? His moveset should be made from scratch
By mecha, you mean the Metal Sonic right?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 20, 2008, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on August 20, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 20, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
Iz it possible for Mecha Sonic to be in brawl? His moveset should be made from scratch
By mecha, you mean the Metal Sonic right?

Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3 & Knux game but yeah thats right
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: FruitFlow on August 20, 2008, 10:58:56 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 20, 2008, 09:30:40 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on August 20, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 20, 2008, 09:15:42 PM
Iz it possible for Mecha Sonic to be in brawl? His moveset should be made from scratch
By mecha, you mean the Metal Sonic right?

Mecha Sonic from Sonic 3 & Knux game but yeah thats right
Oh, okay. Just wondering.  :)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Someguy13 on August 21, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
Isaac from Golden Sun.
If you have trouble with a moveset (if he's added) I'll do the special moves (i had a full one but i lost it cuz everything to erased on my comp)

As for megaman I would totally bas my moveset on Trigger (from Megaman 64/legends). I would have stuff like the Powerd buster and stuff like that  :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Will added!*
Post by: CommanderFlint on August 21, 2008, 11:05:45 AM
Quote from: mackormoses on August 18, 2008, 11:37:04 AM
The Will one is horrible, imo. His Final should involve his CO Power, his moves involving the 'mini's' we see. Bayonnettes aren't part of the game, etc. Perhaps let an AW fan make that one...ugh
Yeah, but he looks more badass that way. His movements can be based on the way Battalion Wars soldiers move too. :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 21, 2008, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: Zen127 on August 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
And in Smash Terms, it's called Forward Tilt (Ftilt). Not Strong A (Side). Same with all others, there's Upward Tilt and Downward Tilt (Utilt and Dtilt). Either the people at the Smash World Forums changed the term to strong, or you play wayyy too much Street Fighter.
If you know me, you'll know that I'm a real sucker when it comes to using the official names. For instance, you won't ever see me typing "bair". I'd put "Back Aerial", instead... I don't know, just something I do a lot O_o
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Java on August 21, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Zen127 on August 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Mewtwo and Roy were in the game at some point, but scrapped for Wolf O'Donnel because of his popularity in Japan, and Sonic the Hedgehog because of worldwide fans begging for his appearance. Dr. Mario was also scrapped due to Sakurai's no clones rule and they had no time to make another move set for him. Geno was also argued over with Square Enix, but the dang fools were too lazy to allow Nintendo to add him. He wasn't developed in the game at a point though.
How could two completely un-related characters replace two others?

It's much more plausible that Ike and Lucario both replaced Roy and Mewtwo.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 21, 2008, 06:17:05 PM
Meh, whatever.

Roy is coming :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Someguy13 on August 21, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
Isaac.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 21, 2008, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy
Tails and Knuckles would definately be a good add, if Sega continues to support Nintendo with this :3
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 21, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy

Mecha Sonic would be a good character even if he is a clone of Sonic.

Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy

Mecha Sonic would be a good character even if he is a clone of Sonic.



you're missing the point entirely X_X;;
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: QingXin on August 21, 2008, 06:44:54 PM
Why Mecha Sonic when Tails or Knuckles are the obvious choice? I'd think even that Eggman guy has a better chance @_@
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Playat on August 21, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy

Mecha Sonic would be a good character even if he is a clone of Sonic.

you're missing the point entirely X_X;;

uhh.....he's a clone of Sonic?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy

Mecha Sonic would be a good character even if he is a clone of Sonic.

you're missing the point entirely X_X;;

uhh.....he's a clone of Sonic?
Exactly. Not to mention Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik, and dare I say Shadow are far more important to the series than he is at this point. (Hell, even Blaze has been in more games)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Java on August 21, 2008, 06:52:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on August 21, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: PLAYAT on August 21, 2008, 01:41:52 PM
Please try to make a Mecha Sonic moveset. I can make an flash movie if you want
Why Mecha Sonic? His whole existance is to be a clone X_X;;
List of characters that should have higher priority from the Sonic Franchise:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow
Robotnik
Blaze
Amy

Mecha Sonic would be a good character even if he is a clone of Sonic.

you're missing the point entirely X_X;;

uhh.....he's a clone of Sonic?
Exactly. Not to mention Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik, and dare I say Shadow are far more important to the series than he is at this point. (Hell, even Blaze has been in more games)
I don't know what Mecha Sonic looks like, but what about an alt costume?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Ridley on September 09, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
When is the next one?
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Mutilator7 on September 12, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
Apparently someone did some reasearch and he came up
with the 'nintendo-thought-about-but-didn't-put-them-in-the-game' roster, linked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related)
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Java on September 12, 2008, 09:42:21 PM
Quote from: Mutilator7 on September 12, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
Apparently someone did some reasearch and he came up
with the 'nintendo-thought-about-but-didn't-put-them-in-the-game' roster, linked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related)
What proof of research does the guy have?

NONE.

All he did was take all the removed characters, AT's, bosses, and a few characters' file names that were apparently found and said how they were gonna be playable.
Title: Re: The "Shoulda-Woulda-Couldas" ~ *Mewtwo added!*
Post by: Cornwad on September 13, 2008, 08:44:05 AM
Quote from: Mutilator7 on September 12, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
Apparently someone did some reasearch and he came up
with the 'nintendo-thought-about-but-didn't-put-them-in-the-game' roster, linked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmk2Cyo4SSE&feature=related)

That's so stupid...
He didn't even give a reason for Dixie >_<