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Title: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 21, 2011, 09:19:05 AM
We need to have a thread about this game.

It looks like the game has received a change in release date. IT'S BEEN DELAYED!

...

Just kidding. The game's release date was originally September 11 in North America, but now it's been moved 2 days earlier to September 9. Uh, wow, this is the first time (for me) that I've seen a game being released earlier than expected.

I open this thread for discussion. Are you intending to buy it? I am.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 21, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
9/11 was a stupid date for an American release anyway.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 21, 2011, 09:57:34 AM
Oh, now I see it. Didn't notice it the first time.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on July 21, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Yeah, 9/11 isn't the best day to release anything in America. Someone probably told NoA and NoJ that so it got put up two days. not a big deal.

Looking forward to it but I'm looking forward to playing some original games on the 3DS instead of N64 remakes. Mind you, this looks like it got a far superior graphical overhaul compared to Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 21, 2011, 10:02:26 AM
Remember, the game would have been completely finished way before 9/11.  It wouldn't be difficult to get it out two days earlier. The 11th is a Sunday, so it's instead being released on the prior Friday. I'd imagine it would be shipped around that time either way.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on July 21, 2011, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 21, 2011, 10:00:35 AM
Mind you, this looks like it got a far superior graphical overhaul compared to Ocarina of Time.

Yeah, Ocarina of Time looked great, but the screenshot comparisons between Star Fox 64 and 3D is ridiculous. Hopefully they make more Star Fox games in the future; they haven't released one since 05 or 06, and it was pretty meh imo.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on July 22, 2011, 12:21:17 AM
Ocarina of Time 3D was made with the intention to keep the graphics as poopty as possible for nostalgic effect according to just about every game site out there.

Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on July 22, 2011, 07:45:10 AM
Quote from: Zero on July 22, 2011, 12:21:17 AM
Ocarina of Time 3D was made with the intention to keep the graphics as poopty as possible for nostalgic effect according to just about every game site out there.

Graphics, or art style? Keeping the art style makes perfect sense, and Ocarina/Majora's art style is actually one of my favorites... but I don't think they'd purposely make the graphics bad.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: Neerb on July 22, 2011, 07:45:10 AM
Graphics, or art style? Keeping the art style makes perfect sense, and Ocarina/Majora's art style is actually one of my favorites... but I don't think they'd purposely make the graphics bad.
The art style is chunky 90s graphics.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on July 22, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 11:03:19 AM
The art style is chunky 90s graphics.

Graphics came out that way, art style, uh....no. They would've done better for the N64 if they could, but considering how full the game was at the time, they really couldn't do much more with the models. I am disappointed they didn't do more for the 3DS, but I guess they wanted nostalgia. Glad to see Star Fox getting a true graphical upgrade.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 22, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on July 22, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
Glad to see Star Fox getting a true graphical upgrade.
And remixed soundtrack, apparently.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 03:29:11 PM
Someone took me way too seriously.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on July 22, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 22, 2011, 07:45:10 AM
Graphics, or art style? Keeping the art style makes perfect sense, and Ocarina/Majora's art style is actually one of my favorites... but I don't think they'd purposely make the graphics bad.

Oh but they did. We're already seeing what kind of graphics the 3DS can really push out. Pokedex 3D has some models that are just fantastic, Star Fox 3D, Mario 3D, and the Resident Evil games all look better than just about any Playstation 2 game.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
Quote from: Zero on July 22, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
Oh but they did. We're already seeing what kind of graphics the 3DS can really push out. Pokedex 3D has some models that are just fantastic, Star Fox 3D, Mario 3D, and the Resident Evil games all look better than just about any Playstation 2 game.
Neerb just doesn't know what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
There's a Metroid Other M Samus model in Puzzle Swap that looks like it's been taken out from an HD TV screen. And to boot, Samus is moving in the picture.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
There's a Metroid Other M Samus model in Puzzle Swap that looks like it's been taken out from an HD TV screen. And to boot, Samus is moving in the picture.
Have you ever seen an HD TV screen?
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 22, 2011, 05:16:46 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 04:32:45 PM
Have you ever seen an HD TV screen?
Key words: looks like.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: MooglePlayerChris on July 22, 2011, 05:16:46 PM
Key words: looks like.
That is entirely irrelevant to my question.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Super on July 23, 2011, 03:03:26 AM
Quote from: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
That is entirely irrelevant to my question.
Your question was pretty irrelevant.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on July 23, 2011, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: Super on July 23, 2011, 03:03:26 AM
Your question was pretty irrelevant.
You can't compare something to something you haven't seen. I highly doubt the 3DS is capable of replicating the quality of a high-definition TV screen.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on July 24, 2011, 11:33:16 PM

This is amazing.

Also, the Japanese voice actor is apparently the same one used in Assault, so my guess is that they're going with most of the Assault voice actors.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Turok on July 25, 2011, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Doodle on July 24, 2011, 11:33:16 PM

This is amazing.

Also, the Japanese voice actor is apparently the same one used in Assault, so my guess is that they're going with most of the Assault voice actors.
Maybe in Japan, but apparently Nintendo tracked down most of the original cast for the English VO.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Gwen Khan on July 26, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
A screenshot in the most recent Nintendo Power seems to show the Fortuna was renamed Fitchina.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on July 26, 2011, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: Turok on July 25, 2011, 01:56:42 AM
Maybe in Japan, but apparently Nintendo tracked down most of the original cast for the English VO.
No wonder why Peppy's Barrell Roll sounded so similar.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on July 28, 2011, 08:23:17 PM
Quote from: Gwen Khan on July 26, 2011, 02:10:34 PM
A screenshot in the most recent Nintendo Power seems to show the Fortuna was renamed Fitchina.
"Fichina was mistakenly called Fortuna in the English translation of Star Fox 64. In Star Fox: Assault, the planet's name is translated as Fichina, and it is correctly identified as a separate planet from Fortuna."
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on July 28, 2011, 08:45:44 PM
i played it at comic-con it was fun
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on July 28, 2011, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: Custom on July 28, 2011, 08:45:44 PM
i played it at comic-con it was fun

Are the motion controls good? Or did you just use the circle pad the whole time?

Also, is it the best-looking 3DS game so far? Because it looks pretty freaking good, and screenshots never even do justice.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Gwen Khan on July 29, 2011, 06:22:47 AM
Quote from: Doodle on July 28, 2011, 08:23:17 PM
"Fichina was mistakenly called Fortuna in the English translation of Star Fox 64. In Star Fox: Assault, the planet's name is translated as Fichina, and it is correctly identified as a separate planet from Fortuna."

yes, I know that, just saying they fixed it for this release.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on July 30, 2011, 11:59:40 AM
I'm sure it'll piss people off who thought it was supposed to be Fortuna.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Turok on July 30, 2011, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: Doodle on July 30, 2011, 11:59:40 AM
I'm sure it'll piss people off who thought it was supposed to be Fortuna.
*Rages*
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on July 30, 2011, 02:28:36 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 28, 2011, 09:44:53 PM
Are the motion controls good? Or did you just use the circle pad the whole time?

Also, is it the best-looking 3DS game so far? Because it looks pretty freaking good, and screenshots never even do justice.

motion controls are alright, but not as good as the ones in OOT
i preferred circle pad, although i used motion control in zelda

also no, it looks average. the kid icarus demo looked pretty sweet though
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on August 25, 2011, 11:02:09 PM
Starfox 64 3D has some impressive water effects, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on September 12, 2011, 07:13:08 AM
I'm just amazed that they managed to poop on the voice acting
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
Pretty good, but the same game, which is why I bought it. Graphics were nice but the sound quality took a hit, and yeah, the acting isn't as fun as it originally was. At least they get credited this time.

Oh, and REQUIRING me to do training first time? Bitch, I've been playing this game for nearly 15 years! I don't need any intercourse ing training! Put it under options or whatever like the N64 game. Nintendo thinks we're all idiot babies who don't know how to play a really simple game. ~_~
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 12, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
Pretty good, but the same game, which is why I bought it. Graphics were nice but the sound quality took a hit, and yeah, the acting isn't as fun as it originally was. At least they get credited this time.

Oh, and REQUIRING me to do training first time? Bitch, I've been playing this game for nearly 15 years! I don't need any intercourse ing training! Put it under options or whatever like the N64 game. Nintendo thinks we're all idiot babies who don't know how to play a really simple game. ~_~
Does the raccoon really stare into your soul?
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 12, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
Does the raccoon really stare into your soul?

That, and he gives intercourse ing stupid advice/training. "Use the control stick to move!" Hur Durr.... I thout taht wuz fur jumpin' in dis spahse shuter game!

Seriously, are kids just so dumb they can't figure out a game on their own these days? X_X;;
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 12, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
That, and he gives intercourse ing stupid advice/training. "Use the control stick to move!" Hur Durr.... I thout taht wuz fur jumpin' in dis spahse shuter game!

Seriously, are kids just so dumb they can't figure out a game on their own these days? X_X;;
That's society for you. Personally, I don't mind. It's in a handheld console anyway.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 12, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
That's society for you. Personally, I don't mind. It's in a handheld console anyway.

I don't have a problem with the training in it of itself, but the fact that I was forced to. Half the market for this game is gonna be older fans who played the original back in the day. It'd be like in Mario 64 3DS they forced you to do a tutorial mission that explained what jumping and coins were...

Anyways, aside from that one gripe, it's still a fun game, and the graphics really are quite good.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on September 13, 2011, 09:34:22 PM
getting it tomorrow because FUCK IT
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 13, 2011, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: Custom on September 13, 2011, 09:34:22 PM
getting it tomorrow because FUCK IT
I'm desperate enough to do it as well. I just want my 3DS library to grow (just have OoT 3D and Devil Survivor Overclocked).

I might do it later in the month, though.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on September 13, 2011, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 13, 2011, 09:47:19 PM
I'm desperate enough to do it as well. I just want my 3DS library to grow (just have OoT 3D and Devil Survivor Overclocked).

I might do it later in the month, though.

i just have OoT :(
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on September 14, 2011, 05:28:26 AM
I have OoT AND Street Fighter... not that it matters since I suck at Street Fighter and the online competition makes it impossible to train.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on September 14, 2011, 06:34:24 AM
Quote from: Custom on September 13, 2011, 10:57:39 PM
i just have OoT :(
which is basically the only good game for the 3DS right now
and it's a "remake"
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Flying Chickens on September 14, 2011, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 03:08:20 PM
That, and he gives intercourse ing stupid advice/training. "Use the control stick to move!" Hur Durr.... I thout taht wuz fur jumpin' in dis spahse shuter game!

Seriously, are kids just so dumb they can't figure out a game on their own these days? X_X;;
Have you noticed that in OoT3D, Navi now spontaneously stops you in your journey to tell you, "Hey! I feel tired! Do you know how to save? IT'S LIKE THIS. I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, CONSIDERING WE ARE CURRENTLY IN GANON'S CASTLE. HAHA. HEY. LISTEN."
Capitals for emphasis.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on September 15, 2011, 04:48:40 AM
That never happened to me, lol
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on September 15, 2011, 05:14:32 AM
Quote from: Hover Poultry on September 14, 2011, 07:39:28 PM
Have you noticed that in OoT3D, Navi now spontaneously stops you in your journey to tell you, "Hey! I feel tired! Do you know how to save? IT'S LIKE THIS. I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, CONSIDERING WE ARE CURRENTLY IN GANON'S CASTLE. HAHA. HEY. LISTEN."
Capitals for emphasis.

Navi telling you how to save isn't insulting your intelligence, it's insulting the fact that you're playing a video game when you could be doing something else; she's just like the Wii Sports message that tells you to go outside. And I rarely ever even see that message because I don't play the 3DS for very long at a time; the only time I did see it was once after I had been playing for 3-4 hours straight.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 15, 2011, 07:37:23 AM
Quote from: Hover Poultry on September 14, 2011, 07:39:28 PM
Have you noticed that in OoT3D, Navi now spontaneously stops you in your journey to tell you, "Hey! I feel tired! Do you know how to save? IT'S LIKE THIS. I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, CONSIDERING WE ARE CURRENTLY IN GANON'S CASTLE. HAHA. HEY. LISTEN."
Capitals for emphasis.
Were you playing over 5 hours without saving? I'd feel bad if your game suddenly shut down...
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 15, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Only once per 3-4 hours? Dude, I was getting those Navi messages once every 20 minutes or so. It's like shut up! I want to play your game! Why do you want me to not play the game!? X_X;;
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 15, 2011, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on September 15, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Only once per 3-4 hours? Dude, I was getting those Navi messages once every 20 minutes or so. It's like shut up! I want to play your game! Why do you want me to not play the game!? X_X;;
If you were dying in real life for playing too much, would you listen to her?
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 15, 2011, 08:51:27 AM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 15, 2011, 08:35:13 AM
If you were dying in real life for playing too much, would you listen to her?

You know what I mean. I can understand a notification for using the 3D too much, as that CAN hurt your eyes. That I don't have a problem with as a little reminder. Star Fox does that between missions only, so it's not like it interrupts the flow of the game. Navi coming out of nowhere every 20-30 minutes to say "Hey! Stop playing!" essentially is rather annoying, and kind of counter productive for a company that only makes GAMING stuff.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on September 15, 2011, 10:20:00 AM
I still have no idea what the intercourse  you kids are talking about. Navi never bothered me to Save.

Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on September 15, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
navi told me to save like 4 times total but every time i was just like I DON"T GIVE A FUCK
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 17, 2011, 09:42:57 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on September 12, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
Anyways, aside from that one gripe, it's still a fun game, and the graphics really are quite good.
Never mind, the training was useful for me. I need to get used to play it in a handheld console...
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on September 17, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 17, 2011, 09:42:57 AM
Never mind, the training was useful for me. I need to get used to play it in a handheld console...

Bah, I'd have preferred it the old fashioned way. Start the game and learn as you go. That's how I did it back in the day. Heh heh. :P
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on September 18, 2011, 02:56:30 PM
intercourse  da police what what intercourse  da police intercourse  intercourse  intercourse  da police what what
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 18, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: Zero on September 18, 2011, 02:56:30 PM
intercourse  da police what what intercourse  da police intercourse  intercourse  intercourse  da police what what
I'm afraid to say this but I've got no idea what you're trying to say this time.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on September 18, 2011, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 18, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
I'm afraid to say this but I've got no idea what you're trying to say this time.

FUCK the police coming straight from the underground
cops tryin to intercourse  over a nigga cuz he'z brown
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on September 18, 2011, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 18, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
I'm afraid to say this but I've got no idea what you're trying to say this time.
turn your censors off.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 18, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: Kayo on September 18, 2011, 06:06:59 PM
turn your censors off.
Turned them off mentally, and I still got no idea what that has to do with Star Fox 64 3D (darn semi-long title).
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on September 18, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 18, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
Turned them off mentally, and I still got no idea what that has to do with Star Fox 64 3D (darn semi-long title).
A) So?
B) That's a really short intercourse ing title, honestly.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on September 19, 2011, 07:11:39 AM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 18, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
Turned them off mentally, and I still got no idea what that has to do with Star Fox 64 3D (darn semi-long title).
that's not long at all
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on September 19, 2011, 12:13:35 PM
It's seriously one of the shortest titles out there on a game that's part of a series. Let's compare

Star Fox 64 3D
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
hey look we have a winner but while we're at it
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Pokemon: HeartGold Version
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Metroid II: Return of Samus

The only way to make it long would be to call it "The game of Star Fox Sixty-Four in Three-Dimensional Graphics".
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on September 19, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
The longest one I've ever read is "Holy Invasion Of Privacy, Badman! What Did I Do To Deserve This?"
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on September 19, 2011, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: NotAsagiChris on September 19, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
The longest one I've ever read is "Holy Invasion Of Privacy, Badman! What Did I Do To Deserve This?"
Oh so Star Fox 64 3D is a close second
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on September 22, 2011, 11:34:42 PM
whoaaa good game alert
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on October 13, 2011, 05:30:26 PM
SF643D bombed everywhere. :(
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Neerb on October 13, 2011, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: Hero_of_Darkness on October 13, 2011, 05:30:26 PM
SF643D bombed everywhere. :(

It's a remake of a game in a series that Nintendo hasn't put a single finger's flex worth of effort into in 6 years, with every game in the series EXCEPT this one in particular having a long list of haters for various reasons.

Not big surprise, though an unfortunate one.

What Nintendo needs to do is simply MAKE A NEW STAR FOX GAME HOLY CRAP GET ON THE BALL GUYS. People have been wanting Star Fox, F-Zero, and Pikmin for years, and Nintendo just doesn't seem to care anymore. At least Kirby and DK finally have real games again.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on October 13, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: Neerb on October 13, 2011, 05:58:53 PM
It's a remake of a game in a series that Nintendo hasn't put a single finger's flex worth of effort into in 6 years, with every game in the series EXCEPT this one in particular having a long list of haters for various reasons.

Not big surprise, though an unfortunate one.

What Nintendo needs to do is simply MAKE A NEW STAR FOX GAME HOLY CRAP GET ON THE BALL GUYS. People have been wanting Star Fox, F-Zero, and Pikmin for years, and Nintendo just doesn't seem to care anymore. At least Kirby and DK finally have real games again.
Actually, some better numbers came. It did okay. Just okay.

Also, Miyamoto basically said that this is do-or-die for Star Fox, so don't be surprised if you never see the franchise again.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Turok on October 13, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: Hero_of_Darkness on October 13, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
Actually, some better numbers came. It did okay. Just okay.

Also, Miyamoto basically said that this is do-or-die for Star Fox, so don't be surprised if you never see the franchise again.
Well, at least I did my part and bought it.

I've seen complaints of how little content there is for $40, but it's the perfect commuter game. I think I've nearly gotten my money's worth by now.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 13, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: Hero_of_Darkness on October 13, 2011, 06:13:58 PM
Actually, some better numbers came. It did okay. Just okay.

Also, Miyamoto basically said that this is do-or-die for Star Fox, so don't be surprised if you never see the franchise again.
That was a joke he made about it.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on October 14, 2011, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: PrinnyOnLowBudgetChris on October 13, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
That was a joke he made about it.

I slightly doubt that considering Nintendo's annoying "it doesn't print it's own money it's not worth it" mentality with some of it's franchises. Part of the problem is that they don't know what to do with the franchise at all instead of making a new space shooter after messing with the formula three straight times.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 14, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on October 14, 2011, 03:03:50 PM
I slightly doubt that considering Nintendo's annoying "it doesn't print it's own money it's not worth it" mentality with some of it's franchises. Part of the problem is that they don't know what to do with the franchise at all instead of making a new space shooter after messing with the formula three straight times.
That was actually a joke. You're letting an animated DS/3DS Printing machine excuse take over your opinion.

Also, blame Dylan. He's being lazy on his own series. I'm still waiting for that Devil May Cry director to help make a new SF game.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on October 14, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
Quote from: PrinnyOnLowBudgetChris on October 14, 2011, 05:36:48 PM
That was actually a joke. You're letting an animated DS/3DS Printing machine excuse take over your opinion.

Not really. It's just Nintendo's thing. Mario and Pokemon takes up the majority of the stuff we get at any given time. Let's look at some examples.
F-Zero GX: Well reviewed and received, considered the best F-Zero game, and sold decently. Not fantastic, but ok. Have we gotten a single new F-Zero game since? Nope.
Donkey Kong: A bunch of konga games that didn't do that well, and finally the first new platformer of DK's on the Wii since DK64. Skipping a whole generation of what the series generally does. But like New Mario, it was modeled after something older.
Star Fox: Last game was an original DS game a number of years ago. No Star Fox for Wii at all, for a number of reasons.


Sadly, Nintendo has this history of relying almost completely on the one or two big money franchises it has, and maybe throwing a different franchise a bone or two every now and again. Looking at the numbers, it's hard to think that it's anything other than sales. Let's be honest here, all the Mario spin-offs are rather samey as far as the non-RPG's go. Mario Kart gets a sort of pass for starting the genre in the first place. But do we really need Mario does this? Mario does that? Love how even if jokingly Miyamoto/Nintendo said about ending it if 643DS didn't do well. Maybe they should consider the fact that every game since 64 just hasn't been that good?
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on October 14, 2011, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on October 14, 2011, 06:14:52 PM
Not really. It's just Nintendo's thing. Mario and Pokemon takes up the majority of the stuff we get at any given time. Let's look at some examples.
F-Zero GX: Well reviewed and received, considered the best F-Zero game, and sold decently. Not fantastic, but ok. Have we gotten a single new F-Zero game since? Nope.
Donkey Kong: A bunch of konga games that didn't do that well, and finally the first new platformer of DK's on the Wii since DK64. Skipping a whole generation of what the series generally does. But like New Mario, it was modeled after something older.
Star Fox: Last game was an original DS game a number of years ago. No Star Fox for Wii at all, for a number of reasons.


Sadly, Nintendo has this history of relying almost completely on the one or two big money franchises it has, and maybe throwing a different franchise a bone or two every now and again. Looking at the numbers, it's hard to think that it's anything other than sales. Let's be honest here, all the Mario spin-offs are rather samey as far as the non-RPG's go. Mario Kart gets a sort of pass for starting the genre in the first place. But do we really need Mario does this? Mario does that? Love how even if jokingly Miyamoto/Nintendo said about ending it if 643DS didn't do well. Maybe they should consider the fact that every game since 64 just hasn't been that good?
There's a lot of opinion presented as fact there, especially at the end. Maybe the spin-offs are getting a bit too numerous, but our core franchises have still been going strong since the 64. There really is no decrease in quality or greatness from Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Galaxy. It's working for Nintendo.

...however they can't just do that with everything. Now Star Fox was never quite as high up as Pokemon and Mario were, and that's why it's fading out. Maybe one day we'll get the start of a new franchise. Maybe not. At this point, it's the ones that have been around for nearly 20 years or older that have that classic advantage; it's easier to continue an old trend than start a new one. Unless it's that really lucky instance where it just catches on. But that doesn't seem to be happening a lot.

Bye Fox.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 14, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
Well, it if helps, they still know the franchise exists. It's not like Capcom who try to troll fans with "Mega Boy" or something.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on October 14, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
Quote from: PrinnyOnLowBudgetChris on October 14, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
Well, it if helps, they still know the franchise exists. It's not like Capcom who try to troll fans with "Mega Boy" or something.
Just because they know it's there doesn't mean they'll do anything about it, y'know.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 14, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: Kayo on October 14, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
Just because they know it's there doesn't mean they'll do anything about it, y'know.
But at least they know it's there. The people at Capcom are avoiding all instances of referring DIRECTLY to Mega Man. Nintendo does answer doubts without waiting too much.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on October 15, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
It still pisses me off how poopty Command turned out.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 15, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: Doodle on October 15, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
It still pisses me off how poopty Command turned out.
I thought it was Assault that turned out bad.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Nayrman on October 15, 2011, 01:38:12 PM
Quote from: PrinnyOnLowBudgetChris on October 15, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
I thought it was Assault that turned out bad.

All 3 games post 64 just aren't that good.

Adventures: Isn't even a Star Fox game. Shoehorned in the franchise. Just wasn't a good game.
Assault: Was ok, but the ground missions needed a lot of work. Nintendo's lack of experience with shooters really shows, particularly ground shooters.
Command: Felt like a slow tactical RPG rather than the fast space shooter we're used to. It was ok I guess but it wasn't all that interesting.

I subscribe to the 3-strikes rule with trying new things. Tried new things three different times, none of it really worked. Nintendo, just make one new space shooter and ONLY a space shooter and see what happens. If THAT doesn't work, then consider axing the franchise.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 15, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on October 15, 2011, 01:38:12 PM
All 3 games post 64 just aren't that good.

Adventures: Isn't even a Star Fox game. Shoehorned in the franchise. Just wasn't a good game.
Assault: Was ok, but the ground missions needed a lot of work. Nintendo's lack of experience with shooters really shows, particularly ground shooters.
Command: Felt like a slow tactical RPG rather than the fast space shooter we're used to. It was ok I guess but it wasn't all that interesting.

I subscribe to the 3-strikes rule with trying new things. Tried new things three different times, none of it really worked. Nintendo, just make one new space shooter and ONLY a space shooter and see what happens. If THAT doesn't work, then consider axing the franchise.
Once again, you're talking to somebody who isn't here at all.

But even so, the three entries were enjoyable in different aspects, and they never did really bad enough to make a bad name for the franchise. Adventures was tossing Fox into Link's mini-skirt, Assault reminded people (a bit) about how great 64 was, and Command...er...I haven't played that one, honestly.

Out of the three, Assault and Command had potential. Are we seeking multiple roads to get to somewhere or something like that, perhaps?

BTW, to stay a bit on topic, you're sure to get your wings blown off in Expert Mode (Damn you, teammates! Damn you, expendable Bill squad!)
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on October 15, 2011, 09:20:38 PM
Adventures was a nice game, but it wasn't what anyone wanted in a Star Fox game. I would have rather not had Star Fox slapped onto it and instead a new, interesting IP to start the Gamecube with, but whatever. That's just business.

Command was just garbage. I give it props for using Star Fox 2's interesting "map" system, but it just slowed things down to a crawl in Command. The earlier missions were extremely short and easy, while the later difficulty stemmed from the bullpoop fuel system they added for some intercourse ing awful reason. So you'd have like a minute to kill all of these enemies that just mindless fly all over the place, sometimes going for a few shots at you, but mostly just running away. Then you have the new characters, most of which were uninteresting and useless intercourse s, and all of the god awful, cringe-worthy endings.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Zero on October 17, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
R.I.P Star Fox
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Custom on October 17, 2011, 12:39:10 AM
Quote from: Zero on October 17, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
R.I.P Star Fox
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Kayo on October 17, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Zero on October 17, 2011, 12:16:24 AM
R.I.P Star Fox
/thread
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 17, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
Does anybody know if you get something out of gaining those super hard gold medals in Score Attack mode?
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: Doodle on October 17, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
Quote from: PrinnyOnLowBudgetChris on October 17, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
Does anybody know if you get something out of gaining those super hard gold medals in Score Attack mode?
In the original you got Expert Mode, I think.
Title: Re: Star Fox 64 3D
Post by: DededeCloneChris on October 17, 2011, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Doodle on October 17, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
In the original you got Expert Mode, I think.
No, no, Score Attack is totally new for the 3DS version. Think you can score 500 hits in Area 6?