This thread again.
What Pokemon would you like to have seen be made/be made in a future gen?
Needs more Eevees. Flying and Fighting Eevee, please.
Mightyena or Houndoom evolution that is a Cerberus.
I wanna see a fire opposition to Durant: Firant. Fire/Bug, Fire Ant.
Other things of note:
Alamomola should have been a Luvdisc Evo.
Emolga should have been a Pachirisu Evo.
Bouffalant should have been a Tauros Evo.
Personally, I like AFROBULL as a standalone Pokemon. Alamomola and Emolga being evos I agree with, though.
And once again: A BABY LAPRAS.
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 30, 2011, 06:40:35 PM
And once again: A BABY LAPRAS.
[spoiler](http://pokemon.neoseeker.com/w/i/pokemon/3/31/422.png)[/spoiler]
Kidding.
But do we need more Eevees? Why not? But it seems like we have too many of those.
And certain things need evos. Like a bunch of the things released in Gen IV that sucked without them.
A Ghost/Psychic type is something I'd love. Despite the cruel 4x weaknesses to ghost and dark I want it. Two of my favorite types combined.
I'll think of more later.
Fire/Water and Fire/Grass would be nice.
What I really want to see is a Dinosaur typing.
Finish off the Eeveelutions already! That's what I want most.
I would like to see a new type. Because I think it'd be interesting.
I'd also like a Fire/Water type for being interesting, a Psychic/Ghost sounds cool, and how about a Steel/Rock type hm?
And I agree with the Emolga, Buffoulant, and Alomomola things.
This thread exists, yet no one mentions this... (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unknown_silhouette_found_in_the_coding_of_TCG_Online)
Quote from: Nayrman on March 30, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
and how about a Steel/Rock type hm?
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Quote from: So_So_Man on March 30, 2011, 07:07:07 PM
This thread exists, yet no one mentions this... (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unknown_silhouette_found_in_the_coding_of_TCG_Online)
#650?
Quote from: Chandelure on March 30, 2011, 07:12:22 PM
You're (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Aron_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) a (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lairon_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) little (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Aggron_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) late (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shieldon_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) on (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bastiodon_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29) that (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Probopass_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29).
#650?
But we need more.
Quote from: Chandelure on March 30, 2011, 07:12:22 PM
#650?
Only if we're lucky.
Odds are its some weird form of something...
It looks like a furry armadillo.
Cerberus would be cool, but it would have to be a Houndoom evo, Mighteno would make no sense. Also I think another ant would be dumb, we already have a fire anteater.
What do I want though? I wish they would go to all the unrepresented creatures in the games that people might not know about, like maybe a tapeworm or kinds of fungus other than mushrooms. Is there a bacteria pokemon yet? That would be cool. Or like a bacteriophage pokemon. Yeah. That would be great. It could be... poison I guess? Or dark. Or psychic.
But wait a second, what is the TCG online? That sounds fun if it's free. When did that come out? I wonder what type that new thing is. Looks like Raichu mixed with one of these things (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Dimetrodon_incisivus_Exhibit_Museum_of_Natural_History.JPG/800px-Dimetrodon_incisivus_Exhibit_Museum_of_Natural_History.JPG). Maybe it's a new Victini form.
Firant (Fire/Bug) vs. Blakant (Dark/Bug)
WHO WILL WIN!?
I agree with:
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on March 30, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Needs more Eevees.
Alomomola should have been a Luvdisc Evo.
I'll add that if a Flying Eeveelution comes, it should be PURE Flying, not Normal/Flying.
Though, I don't mind the idea of:
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on March 30, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
a fire opposition to Durant: Firant. Fire/Bug, Fire Ant.
But I would like something no one mentioned.
Fire/Ice Poké
And some things I mentioned before but will mention again.
A new Dragonfly Pokémon that is a Dragon/Bug type. And a new Firefly Pokémon that is a Fire/Bug Pokémon.
Also, a Peacock Pokémon.
Another thing, a Normal/Rock Poké. It would come from some form of fossil and is the pre-evolution of Humans (except it won't evolve into an actual human through any form except a poop load of time). Or maybe not the pre-evolution of humans, but "researchers think this was the early form of human life, but it is unconfirmed."
A Ghost/Fighting type would be awesome. Some of my favorite types.
Though it's not one of my favorite types, a Ghost/Steel would be cool too. Most immunities ever? If it had levitate EVEN more? No normal, fight, poison, and with Levitate, ground. Though it's not that much, I think that's the max possible, though a ghost/normal would have the same amount, but it would probably look less awesome. Unless it was a Zombie... holy crap that would be pretty epic.
More ideas later, as I remember having some I didn't type yet, but I don't remember at the top of my head.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on March 30, 2011, 07:50:15 PM
Though it's not one of my favorite types, a Ghost/Steel would be cool too. Most immunities ever? If it had levitate EVEN more? No normal, fight, poison, and with Levitate, ground. Though it's not that much, I think that's the max possible, though a ghost/normal would have the same amount, but it would probably look less awesome. Unless it was a Zombie... holy crap that would be pretty epic.
More ideas later, as I remember having some I didn't type yet, but I don't remember at the top of my head.
Spiritomb's got three already. Ghost/dark with levitate would have 4 immunities and no weaknesses.
Oh yeah, I forgot Dark was immune to some things too, whoops.
Normal/Ghost would grant immunity to its own 2 typings.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 30, 2011, 08:00:47 PM
Normal/Ghost would grant immunity to its own 2 typings.
And immunity to what would be two of its three weaknesses, leaving only one left.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 30, 2011, 08:00:47 PM
Normal/Ghost would grant immunity to its own 2 typings.
Which would be pretty funny and cool IMO.
You can't do the metaphoric fight fire with fire, because it's typings don't effect itself.
Quote from: Chandelure on March 30, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
And immunity to what would be two of its three weaknesses, leaving only one left.
And a typing which is rarely used.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on March 30, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
Which would be pretty funny and cool IMO.
You can't do the metaphoric fight fire with fire, because it's typings don't effect itself.
All the more reason it sounds epic.
Now that I think about it aside from Flying, Water is the only other typing to have Normal as its dual.
Moar Eeveelutions, as always.
Grass/Flying or Psychic/Flying peacock (I think Grass/Flying peacock would be a sweet starter).
Fire/Ice dragon (as in, it looks like a dragon, but it's Fire/Ice type).
Grass/Ground anteater that actually looks cool and has good stats and movepool.
A griffin; it could be Dark/Flying, Normal/Flying, or maybe even Dragon/Flying.
Water/Ice orca, and it will be the greatest pokemon ever made... but not Uber-level, because I want to use it.
Dark/Flying vampire bat (it's about time we had a cool-looking bat whose type made any sense at all).
Fire/Grass jack o'lantern.
Awesome-looking Ice/Dark wolf; 3 stages, from pup to wolf to werewolf. (perhaps you're noticing a Halloween theme by now; it's pure coincidence)
Dark/Steel ninja-themed crane (not ninja-like, like Weavile, I mean blatantly ninja; and by "crane" I mean the bird).
Water/Steel pirate-themed parrot.
And yes, I'm serious about all of these, ESPECIALLY the orca, wolf, anteater, and jack o'lantern, all with those specific types.
Quote from: Neerb on March 30, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
Water/Ice orca, and it will be the greatest pokemon ever made... but not Uber-level, because I want to use it.
A dual typing Wailord.
Sweet.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 30, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
A dual typing Wailord.
Sweet.
But it's an orca, which is really more dolphin than whale. It will look cooler and sleeker, and will be more about speed and physical attacking than pure bulk.
Quote from: Neerb on March 30, 2011, 08:16:22 PM
But it's an orca, which is really more dolphin than whale. It will look cooler and sleeker, and will be more about speed and physical attacking than pure bulk.
Ability as Speed Boost maybe?
Someone mentioned Ghost/Steel. Golett/Golurk.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on March 30, 2011, 08:23:01 PM
Someone mentioned Ghost/Steel. Golett/Golurk.
Golett/Golurk is Ghost/Ground.
Quote from: Neerb on March 30, 2011, 08:24:41 PM
Golett/Golurk is Ghost/Ground.
Oh, poop. Really? Shit looks Steel to me.
Ghost/Ground is a pretty bad typing.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 30, 2011, 08:30:20 PM
Ghost/Ground is a pretty bad typing.
That's just because the types don't overlap at all. It's cool offensively, but defensively the weaknesses are just combined, and none are canceled out.
Quote from: Chandelure on March 30, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
That's just because the types don't overlap at all. It's cool offensively, but defensively the weaknesses are just combined, and none are canceled out.
Yeah.
That's 6 weaknesses.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 30, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
Yeah.
That's 6 weaknesses.
Five?
Water, Grass, Ice, Ghost, Dark.
I don't think I'm missing anything.
The weaknesses aren't nice, but he's also immune to Electric, Normal, and Fighting. Could be worse, I guess.
Quote from: Chandelure on March 30, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Five?
Water, Grass, Ice, Ghost, Dark.
I don't think I'm missing anything.
I forgot Ghost isn't weak to Bug.
My bad.
Yeah I've been saying for a while that Houndoom needs an evo to make it a viable pokemon. It got Nasty Plot but that still wasn't enough of a buff.
As for the Dark/Steel type mentioned don't we have Bisharp? lol
Quote from: Zero on April 01, 2011, 02:26:49 PM
As for the Dark/Steel type mentioned don't we have Bisharp? lol
Yeah, pretty much.
We can have more than one of the same type combination. Heck, in case you don't remember, we have 3 Fire/Fighting Pokemon. :|
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
We can have more than one of the same type combination. Heck, in case you don't remember, we have 3 Fire/Fighting Pokemon. :|
We have too many Bug/Flying pokemon.
And Water/Ice.
Yet you picked a type only 3 lines have.
All of which are starters.
One of the many things that made most people rage.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 01, 2011, 04:55:07 PM
All of which are starters.
One of the many things that made most people rage.
We just need more variety. Another reason I'm sad that Samurott and Serperior are single-typed.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 01, 2011, 05:09:47 PM
We just need more variety. Another reason I'm sad that Samurott and Serperior are single-typed.
Samurott I'm not so sure of.
Fighting maybe?
But Serperior could've maybe had dual Dark since it looks sinister and has the "Antagonist" ability.
But then that would build more weaknesses.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 01, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
Samurott I'm not so sure of.
Fighting maybe?
But Serperior could've maybe had dual Dark since it looks sinister and has the "Antagonist" ability.
But then that would build more weaknesses.
Not saying I SEE any other types in those two per se, I just would have liked to see some new combinations.
That's the only reason I liked the Gen IV starters. Grass/Ground and Water/Steel were some pretty cool combos, and unique ones at that.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 01, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
Not saying I SEE any other types in those two per se, I just would have liked to see some new combinations.
That's the only reason I liked the Gen IV starters. Grass/Ground and Water/Steel were some pretty cool combos, and unique ones at that.
Grass/Ground was a very unique typing.
I actually liked that the most of the 3.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 01, 2011, 06:19:21 PM
Grass/Ground was a very unique typing.
I actually liked that the most of the 3.
And the Pokemon was amazingly fitting. I don't see why people are hating Torterra. I disliked Grotle, but Torterra is a beast.
Empoleon's got a nice typing that really gives a lot of Pokemon headaches. (First and only thing until Gen V to resist Kingdra's Dragon/Water attack combo, and still the only thing to wall Kingdra even if Kingdra carries Ice Beam)
I wish Samurott had been Water/Ice or Water/Rock, either of which would have 1. made sense for a sea lion, 2. would have at least given him a new stab, making him more useful, and 3. would have been a first for a starter.
A friend of mine also suggested that it would have been cool/made sense looks-wise if Serperior had been Grass/Psychic, Emboar had been Fire/Dark, and Samurott would have been Water/Fighting.
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 07:41:26 PM
I wish Samurott had been Water/Ice or Water/Rock, either of which would have 1. made sense for a sea lion, 2. would have at least given him a new stab, making him more useful, and 3. would have been a first for a starter.
A friend of mine also suggested that it would have been cool/made sense looks-wise if Serperior had been Grass/Psychic, Emboar had been Fire/Dark, and Samurott would have been Water/Fighting.
Weren't the starters rumored to be Psychic, Dark, and Fighting one gen? Think it was extremely early Gen IV.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 01, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
Weren't the starters rumored to be Psychic, Dark, and Fighting one gen? Think it was extremely early Gen IV.
I never believed it, but I did once see fake starters of those pure types. I think they were a dog, a triceratops, and a kangaroo... or something like that.
But yeah, I'd like that combo, but they'd need to be attached to the standard Grass, Fire, and Water.
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
I never believed it, but I did once see fake starters of those pure types. I think they were a dog, a triceratops, and a kangaroo... or something like that.
But yeah, I'd like that combo, but they'd need to be attached to the standard Grass, Fire, and Water.
Except there would be no unique type combos from there. They've all been done before.
Psychic: Exeggutor, Victini, Starmie
Dark: Cacturne, Houndoom, Sharpedo
Fighting: Breloom, Blaziken, Poliwrath
Just to name a few examples.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 01, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Except there would be no unique type combos from there. They've all been done before.
Psychic: Exeggutor, Victini, Starmie
Dark: Cacturne, Houndoom, Sharpedo
Fighting: Breloom, Blaziken, Poliwrath
Just to name a few examples.
Who gives a intercourse if other Pokemon have those typings. The starters haven't. The fact that three fire starters are Fire/Fighting is uncreative and annoying.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 01, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
Who gives a intercourse if other Pokemon have those typings. The starters haven't. The fact that three fire starters are Fire/Fighting is uncreative and annoying.
I like the idea of starters having unique typings. That's the only reason I likes Gen IV's starters, as I said. In fact, the only thing I really liked about Gen IV was the little creative things like that.
I used to always pick the Fire starter, but Blaziken was my last one. Will be until we get a better Fire starter typing if there's a ...oh god... Gen VI.
Fire: Lizards, Echidnas, Chickens, Monkeys, and Pigs.
Water: Turtles, Crocodiles, Mudfish, Penguins, and Otters
Grass: Toads, Dinosaurs, Geckos, Turtles, Snakes.
What next?
Fire: Frilled Lizard
Water: Platypus
Grass: Triceratops
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 01, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Fire: Lizards, Echidnas, Chickens, Monkeys, and Pigs.
Water: Turtles, Crocodiles, Mudfish, Penguins, and Otters
Grass: Toads, Dinosaurs, Geckos, Turtles, Snakes.
What next?
Fire: Frilled Lizard
Water: Platypus
Grass: Triceratops
Venusaur's family are dinosaurs, not toads. Hence the "saur" at the end of all three of their names.
Personally, I'd like the next gen to have no reptilian starters. How about...
Grass: Peacock, part Flying of course
Fire: Lion or Tiger (or both, one on the second evo stage and one on the third); could be Dark
Water: Platypus sounds nice... maybe part Poison? or Ground? or Electric!!!
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 08:42:43 PM
Venusaur's family are dinosaurs, not toads. Hence the "saur" at the end of all three of their names.
Personally, I'd like the next gen to have no reptilian starters. How about...
Grass: Peacock, part Flying of course
Fire: Lion or Tiger (or both, one on the second evo stage and one on the third); could be Dark
Water: Platypus sounds nice... maybe part Poison? or Ground? or Electric!!!
Electric? Nah, doesn't seem like we'd get starters with two elemental types.
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 08:42:43 PM
Venusaur's family are dinosaurs, not toads. Hence the "saur" at the end of all three of their names.
I think they're supposed to be based on a Kannemeyeria.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 01, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
Electric? Nah, doesn't seem like we'd get starters with two elemental types.
Isn't Earth (Ground) elemental in most circles? Or do you just mean formerly All Special... in which case, screw that, I want my Water/Ice starter.
Anyway, your uniquely-typed starter thing is simply impractical, especially seeing as how the ONLY type that Water hasn't been combined with at some point in time is FIRE.
On a related note, Grass has yet to be combined with Fire, Dragon, or Ghost. Fire has yet to be combined with Grass, Water, Ice, Normal, or Poison.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 01, 2011, 05:17:20 PM
Samurott I'm not so sure of.
Fighting maybe?
But Serperior could've maybe had dual Dark since it looks sinister and has the "Antagonist" ability.
But then that would build more weaknesses.
Serperior has the "Contrary" ability and is based on the French. I think the French might have been a little offended if it ended up being Dark type. It's not sinister, it's just snooty, or smug.
Quote from: Neerb on April 02, 2011, 08:13:17 AM
On a related note, Grass has yet to be combined with Fire, Dragon, or Ghost. Fire has yet to be combined with Grass, Water, Ice, Normal, or Poison.
I don't think any of those types are really practical for starters. Like I guess a burning oil spill monster would be kind of cool, butt nobody would want to chose it. Dragon seems too powerful a type for a starter, and ghost would pretty much make it immune to all early attacks, like the first battle against your rival. Fire/Grass and Fire/Water obviously don't work, Normal is a pretty boring type to combine with anything, Fire/Ice could work I guess but it sort of gives the fire an doubly unfair advantage against the grass, as does Fire/Poison.
I think Fire/Normal might actually be alright; the STAB would definitely help early on in the game, anyway.
Quote from: Neerb on April 01, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
We can have more than one of the same type combination. Heck, in case you don't remember, we have 3 Fire/Fighting Pokemon. :|
Yes but when we already have a pokemon that somewhat resembles a ninja with that exact typing it seems redundant.
It's whatever
I didn't see Bisharp as being very ninja-like; he's more of a Power Ranger with blades sticking out all over him. He looks neither agile nor stealthy.
Quote from: Neerb on April 02, 2011, 06:37:11 PM
I didn't see Bisharp as being very ninja-like; he's more of a Power Ranger with blades sticking out all over him. He looks neither agile nor stealthy.
As far as Ninja-like pokemon, Accelgor comes to my mind the most. It has Ninja-like speed and attitude.
Ninjask seems like it was designed to be more ninja-like. Look at the name and the even higher speed. But I just think of a wasp when I see a Ninjask.
Ninjask has a Ninja Mask.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 03, 2011, 06:29:55 PM
It's still a wasp.
Actually, it's a cicada; hence Nincada (ninja-cicada), and the fact that it leaves its shell behind. Of course, the Ninja aspect of the whole family is still very lacking; it's fast like a ninja, but it looks and acts like a totally average bug.
Quote from: Neerb on April 03, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
Actually, it's a cicada; hence Nincada (ninja-cicada), and the fact that it leaves its shell behind. Of course, the Ninja aspect of the whole family is still very lacking; it's fast like a ninja, but it looks and acts like a totally average bug.
Nincada looks more like a Cicada to me. I guess Ninjask is a mix between a cicada and a wasp. :/
It's a mixture of the 2 basically.
But where's the stinger?
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 03, 2011, 07:16:47 PM
It's a mixture of the 2 basically.
But where's the stinger?
[spoiler](http://nicksagan.blogs.com/nick_sagan_online/images/2007/04/02/wasp.jpg)[/spoiler]Yes, pray tell, where's the stinger? It's not extremely prominent on some wasps. Plus maybe they didn't give it a stinger because its special trait is its speed and agility, not stinging force.
I don't see any wasp in it at all; Ninjask seems 100% cicada based.
Quote from: Neerb on April 03, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
I don't see any wasp in it at all; Ninjask seems 100% cicada based.
Whatever. I always think of a wasp. Maybe not by looks alone, but he just reminds me of wasps.
Maybe it's the yellow and black stripes.
Quote from: Neerb on April 03, 2011, 08:24:44 PM
Maybe it's the yellow and black stripes.
And possibly the general shape, high population of bees and wasps around my house, and me seeing it for the first time when i was like 8 years old.
It just stuck.
It's body looks a bit too short to be a wasp.
The closest that comes to mind is a bee.
Beecada.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 04, 2011, 01:12:44 AM
It's body looks a bit too short to be a wasp.
The closest that comes to mind is a bee.
Beecada.
It buzzes, problem solved.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 04, 2011, 03:24:06 AM
It buzzes, problem solved.
But cicadas buzz more than wasps do...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif/170px-Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif)
Well, Shedinja is definitely (the shedded skin of) a cicada.
Origin aside, I always loved Nincada. Mostly Shedinja. That creepy hovering Bug-Ghost thing. Its ability is fun. Sure a lot of things an take it out (Factoring in Stealth Rock and weather) but if you play it right and keep it hidden until the end of the battle it can really intercourse with your opponent.
Example: The mighty Kyogre can't do a thing to Shedinja. Yes, it can use AncientPower, but Kyogre very rarely, if ever, carries that move in competitive battling.
Or you can just FS it to save a turn and throw your opponent off guard.
But I guess if you were to add Shedinja to a team it would have to be the first to go out since SR is the most common entry hazard in the metagames, and would likely OHKO it to oblivion.
Wonder Guard is a nice touch for it though.
Quote from: Something on April 04, 2011, 06:57:24 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif/170px-Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif)
Well, Shedinja is definitely (the shedded skin of) a cicada.
I remember when I first saw that On the Origin of Species, I watched that picture for hours.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 04, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
Or you can just FS it to save a turn and throw your opponent off guard.
But I guess if you were to add Shedinja to a team it would have to be the first to go out since SR is the most common entry hazard in the metagames, and would likely OHKO it to oblivion.
Wonder Guard is a nice touch for it though.
I use Focus Sash and Protect :3
Also Rapid Spin
Quote from: Something on April 04, 2011, 06:57:24 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif/170px-Cicada_molting_animated-2.gif)
Well, Shedinja is definitely (the shedded skin of) a cicada.
That looks fake yet real at the same time, it's kinda weird and not as sickening or creepy as I thought, but still sickening and creepy.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 04, 2011, 03:59:15 PM
That looks fake yet real at the same time, it's kinda weird and not as sickening or creepy as I thought, but still sickening and creepy.
The green coloring of the wings look unbelievably cool up close like that.... are they really that color?
Quote from: Chandelure on April 04, 2011, 06:48:01 PM
The green coloring of the wings look unbelievably cool up close like that.... are they really that color?
I would assume so, cicadas are lots of different colors. Does anyone in the northeast remember when they all came out of the ground a few years ago? That was crazy.
Quote from: Cornwad on April 04, 2011, 07:37:29 PM
I would assume so, cicadas are lots of different colors. Does anyone in the northeast remember when they all came out of the ground a few years ago? That was crazy.
I remember this.
LOL. Is that thing perched on a roll of paper towels?
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 04, 2011, 11:06:44 PM
LOL. Is that thing perched on a roll of paper towels?
Indubitably.
At first I thought it was a bed mattress.
Narwhal Pokemon. Oh yeah.
Also, Llama.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 05, 2011, 11:56:11 AM
Narwhal Pokemon. Oh yeah.
Also, Llama.
Samurott has narwhal-like traits (that horn).
Also why do we need a llama.
To spit on their trainers' faces.
Why shouldn't there be a llama? There are pigs, horses, bulls, cows, deer, ducks, chickens, where are the llamas?
We even got a Buffalo, Zebra, Giraffe and Camel, but no Llama.
I think it would be a nice edition.
A Wildebeest would be nice too.
Llama would be Water/Ground, methinks. It'd be a water counter to Numel/Camerupt.
Poison/Water. It spits acid.
I was thinking Normal... or Normal/Grass....
Quote from: Cornwad on April 05, 2011, 01:33:56 PM
Why shouldn't there be a llama? There are pigs, horses, bulls, cows, deer, ducks, chickens, where are the llamas?
Unless it's some cool, unique type I don't want it. IMO we don't need every single animal in Normal-type form. (Not that we have EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL, but I'm tired of Normal-types already. D: )
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 05, 2011, 02:41:01 PM
Llama would be Water/Ground, methinks. It'd be a water counter to Numel/Camerupt.
Ay ay eesh *cringe*
I thought the type was cool when we got Quagsire. Then I saw Swampert and was okay with it. Then Whiscash seemed like a bit too much, and then we got Gastrodon... and then Seismitoad. I'm a little sick of that type combination, really. I know, mud, yeah, whatever. But it's essentially a Pokémon with only one weakness and well.. I just think that type combo is overplayed. Same with Water/Rock, Bug/Flying, and Bug/Grass, among others.
Water makes perfect sense, but for the second type, I haven't a clue. Why not Water/Normal even? I could see a Normal/Water llama, but we already have Bibarel (which I dislike)
And yeah. :/
Camels and Llamas are very similar, so I'd say they should have counter-typing.
Hmm. Fire/Ground Camel...
Water is strong to Fire.
Ground is strong to Fire, Steel, Rock, and Poison. If you wanna make them Criss-Cross, it'd be Water/Steel. Fire and Ground being strong to Steel, and Water being strong to Fire and Ground.
But I can't see a Water/Steel Llama.
Ooh ooh ooh: ELECTRIC/GRASS! Now that's an awesome llama type.
Quote from: Neerb on April 05, 2011, 03:14:00 PM
Ooh ooh ooh: ELECTRIC/GRASS! Now that's an awesome llama type.
That means you have an immunity, which isn't really a counter.
Actually, putting aside the fact that Llamas like to spit (camels do too even) I can't associate it with water.
Well let's see. Camerupt is a camel with volcanoes on its back. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED
A LLAMA
GRASS/GROUND
WITH A MOUNTAIN ON ITS BACK
That seems too similar to Torterra as far as typing and land-carrying but SO WHAT
Going with the llama idea, when I think about where llamas live, Peru comes to mind. If I recall correctly, Peru is largely mountainous and jungley. As such, a llama pokemon should be grass-rock.
Quote from: So_So_Man on April 05, 2011, 04:42:16 PM
Going with the llama idea, when I think about where llamas live, Peru comes to mind. If I recall correctly, Peru is largely mountainous and jungley. As such, a llama pokemon should be grass-rock.
I like this; it could be all ruin-y with moss and vines growing over it, like a Peru-themed llama Colossus.
Quote from: Neerb on April 05, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
I like this; it could be all ruin-y with moss and vines growing over it, like a Peru-themed llama Colossus.
That's a fantastic idea. They should do that.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 05, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
Actually, putting aside the fact that Llamas like to spit (camels do too even) I can't associate it with water.
Well let's see. Camerupt is a camel with volcanoes on its back. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED
A LLAMA
GRASS/GROUND
WITH A MOUNTAIN ON ITS BACK
That seems too similar to Torterra as far as typing and land-carrying but SO WHAT
Water/Ground.
Llama with GEYSERS on it's back.
It doesn't have to be water JUST because it looks similar to a Camel which is has a Fire type.
Also, a Steel/Poison idea came to mind. Not Llama, but any Steel/Poison could make an interesting Pokémon, probably a man-made experiment that was tossed before they realized it worked. Or that's what came to mind anyway.
Also, there is surprisingly not enough Steel/Electric. I know we have the Magnemite family, but couldn't there be more?
No, if there's a Llama pokemon, it should be Grass/Rock. That still works with the rival to Camerupt thing, because grass beats ground and rock beats fire, but ground beats rock and fire beats grass. Boom. Problem solved.
QuoteAlso, a Steel/Poison idea came to mind. Not Llama, but any Steel/Poison could make an interesting Pokémon, probably a man-made experiment that was tossed before they realized it worked. Or that's what came to mind anyway.
Maybe like a leaking battery?
Quote from: So_So_Man on April 05, 2011, 04:42:16 PM
Going with the llama idea, when I think about where llamas live, Peru comes to mind. If I recall correctly, Peru is largely mountainous and jungley. As such, a llama pokemon should be grass-rock.
Quote from: Neerb on April 05, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
I like this; it could be all ruin-y with moss and vines growing over it, like a Peru-themed llama Colossus.
Love it. Love it! I'd definitely use that thing.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 05, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
Water/Ground.
Llama with GEYSERS on it's back.
Just, no. it doesn't have to mirror Camerupt EXACTLY.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 05, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
Also, a Steel/Poison idea came to mind. Not Llama, but any Steel/Poison could make an interesting Pokémon, probably a man-made experiment that was tossed before they realized it worked. Or that's what came to mind anyway.
This should be the Grimer/Trubbish of Generation VI.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 05, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
Water/Ground.
Water Buffalo with GEYSERS on it's back.
fixd
Quote from: Cornwad on April 05, 2011, 06:26:41 PM
Maybe like a leaking battery?
That is similar to what came to mind, yes.
If it's a battery wouldn't it be part Electric?
Electric/Poison
Steel/Poison
Electric/Steel (With Poison Touch ability, maybe?)
I guess regardless of which ever you choose it'll always be 4x weak to Ground.
I still think a frilled-neck Lizard pokemon would be great, and yeah a narwhal sounds cool too.
...why don't we have a swordfish pokemon yet? It could be water/fighting or just a pure water but a swordfish is a far better idea then 90% of these generic fish pokemon we keep getting every gen.
Also a proper scorpion like pokemon would be nice. Drapion just doesn't cut it.
Quote from: Zero on April 06, 2011, 11:26:54 AM
I still think a frilled-neck Lizard pokemon would be great, and yeah a narwhal sounds cool too.
...why don't we have a swordfish pokemon yet? It could be water/fighting or just a pure water but a swordfish is a far better idea then 90% of these generic fish pokemon we keep getting every gen.
Also a proper scorpion like pokemon would be nice. Drapion just doesn't cut it.
I thought Skorupi and Drapoin were ehhh-close enough to scorpions, but I think we need a more menacing looking Desert scorpion thing that might be Ground/Poison or something like that.
Personally, I'd like to see a Ghost/Fighting type. We've finally gotten some ghost combos this gen with fire, water, and ground. I'd like to see a physical ghost type since ghosts tend to be special attack users in general. Perhaps the ghost of Bruce Lee as a pokemon? Nah, that'd be in bad taste. :P
Quote from: Nayrman on April 06, 2011, 01:24:42 PM
Personally, I'd like to see a Ghost/Fighting type. We've finally gotten some ghost combos this gen with fire, water, and ground. I'd like to see a physical ghost type since ghosts tend to be special attack users in general. Perhaps the ghost of Bruce Lee as a pokemon? Nah, that'd be in bad taste. :P
The only physical-attacking Ghost type we have that's half-decent is pretty much just Dusknoir. And even him is designed to be a wall, but he just has a higher Attack than Sp. Atk. We have no ghosts designed purely for strong physical attacks, except for Giratina-O, which doesn't exactly count.
And that's why I'd like to see one.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 06, 2011, 01:27:16 PM
The only physical-attacking Ghost type we have that's half-decent is pretty much just Dusknoir. And even him is designed to be a wall, but he just has a higher Attack than Sp. Atk. We have no ghosts designed purely for strong physical attacks, except for Giratina-O, which doesn't exactly count.
I take this back: We have Golurk.
*coughbanetteandshedinjacough*
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 06, 2011, 04:00:21 PM
*coughbanetteandshedinjacough*
Banette's physical movepool is terribly shallow. It really doesn't have anything better than Sucker Punch.
Shedinja isn't meant to be a physical attacker, it's meant to be a gimmick. It has an incredibly unique ability released as one of the first abilities.
If it had access to SD it could be a mediocre threat in UU.
SubSD would be nice.
Heck, even another evolution would have been nice.
But Banette is pretty much outclassed by Dusclops.
Quote from: Nayrman on April 06, 2011, 01:24:42 PM
Personally, I'd like to see a Ghost/Fighting type. We've finally gotten some ghost combos this gen with fire, water, and ground. I'd like to see a physical ghost type since ghosts tend to be special attack users in general. Perhaps the ghost of Bruce Lee as a pokemon? Nah, that'd be in bad taste. :P
HitmonLEE. Likewise, Jackie Chan has HitmonCHAN (in name, obviously not in fighting style).
Anyway, Ghost/Fighting... how about an ancient warrior? Like a ghostly samurai or pirate? Wait, back on my ninja idea: Ghost/Fighting could actually make a good ninja.
Quote from: Neerb on April 06, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
HitmonLEE. Likewise, Jackie Chan has HitmonCHAN (in name, obviously not in fighting style).
Anyway, Ghost/Fighting... how about an ancient warrior? Like a ghostly samurai or pirate? Wait, back on my ninja idea: Ghost/Fighting could actually make a good ninja.
Seems more Ninja-like than Bug.
What if GF implemented triple typing?
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 07, 2011, 07:33:55 PM
What if GF implemented triple typing?
God no
Don't bring this poop in here again
Quote from: Chandelure on April 07, 2011, 07:34:37 PM
God no
Don't bring this poop in here again
But... I want my stupid/random triple types! Especially the super contradictory fire/water/grass triple type! Charivenastoise will be a reality someday!!!
What would even happen if they made a triple type? Would only certain new ones have it, or would they go back and add a third type to some pokemon?
Quote from: Cornwad on April 07, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
What would even happen if they made a triple type? Would only certain new ones have it, or would they go back and add a third type to some pokemon?
Here lies the problem. Either we have it unfairly geared toward new Pokemon only or everything as we know it is intercourse ed up.
Well, let's pray/hope GF doesn't decide to try something "new" and go along with it.
I can already see the uproars occurring in Smogon.
Quote from: Cornwad on April 07, 2011, 07:39:19 PM
What would even happen if they made a triple type? Would only certain new ones have it, or would they go back and add a third type to some pokemon?
Well, during Gen 1 Magneton was pure Electric typing.
Once 2nd Gen was made they gave it dual Electric/Steel typing, so I think it would be possible as an add-on to a few of the old.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 07, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Well, let's pray/hope GF doesn't decide to try something "new" and go along with it.
I can already see the uproars occurring in Smogon.
Well, during Gen 1 Magneton was pure Electric typing.
Once 2nd Gen was made they gave it dual Electric/Steel typing, so I think it would be possible as an add-on to a few of the old.
That's one (two) pokemon only one generation later. They also changed the physical appearance of half the pokemon from R/B, especially from behind.
Adding some types (not second types- THIRD types) as many as 5 generations later is a bigger difference.It's not like Pokemon were ever Single typed. Because any Single -types pokemon.. what are they going to do, add a second type? Add TWO types? No, either way it's just weird. The only reason Magneton became steel is because the type never existed until Gen II, at which point GF realized "Hey, Magnemite/ton could be steel too, so be it."
What we'd be doing is adding existing types to old pokemon, and with that GF might do something stupid like make a Single-type Pokemon Dual types and what, not, leading to the whole "Water/Psychic was always a type combo, why doesn't Golduck get it until now?" thing, or whatever.
Not even going into the whole 8x weaknesses thing either. Just drop it.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 07, 2011, 07:49:14 PM
Adding some types (not second types- THIRD types) as many as 5 generations later is a bigger difference.It's not like Pokemon were ever Single typed. Because any Single -types pokemon.. what are they going to do, add a second type? Add TWO types? No, either way it's just weird. The only reason Magneton became steel is because the type never existed until Gen II, at which point GF realized "Hey, Magnemite/ton could be steel too, so be it."
I know that, but I'll be honest with you.
When I was little I did not take any liking at all to the fact that Magneton got part Steel.
It was just very awkward during that time to me, and made no sense.
As I got older though I began to see why GF made it that way.
Because well, it's a "Metal Magnet".
But aside from all of the triple typing talk I really feel it would be nice to have a "Dinosaur" typing.
We've got dozens of dinosaur look alike pokemon that would have fitted in nicely.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 07, 2011, 08:10:09 PM
I know that, but I'll be honest with you.
When I was little I did not take any liking at all to the fact that Magneton got part Steel.
It was just very awkward during that time to me, and made no sense.
As I got older though I began to see why GF made it that way.
Because well, it's a "Metal Magnet".
But aside from all of the triple typing talk I really feel it would be nice to have a "Dinosaur" typing.
We've got dozens of dinosaur look alike pokemon that would have fitted in nicely.
What would be its weaknesses/resistances?
Really, dinosaurs were just reptiles that lived a long time ago. They had attributes similar to today's reptiles. And there is no "reptile" type. We really don't need a dinosaur type. It isn't needed. It's not like fire or water or anything. And it would probably end up being too similar to Dragon.
I agree Dinosaur type would be kind of dumb, however I do agree with FruitFlow in that I think we need one more type to make things seem right. Ever since second gen I feel like we've been missing one type. However, I'm not really sure what that type would be. Perhaps something like Mystic type? It's moves could be something like spells instead of like Psychic which uses mind type things. I dunno. I'm just throwing random ideas out there....
Quote from: Nayrman on April 07, 2011, 08:23:17 PM
I agree Dinosaur type would be kind of dumb, however I do agree with FruitFlow in that I think we need one more type to make things seem right. Ever since second gen I feel like we've been missing one type. However, I'm not really sure what that type would be. Perhaps something like Mystic type? It's moves could be something like spells instead of like Psychic which uses mind type things. I dunno. I'm just throwing random ideas out there....
The only thing that comes to mind more than anything else is a Light type. But I think it's too late to go back and change things. Especially because a lot of older pokemon fit this.
There has been a lot of talk about Light typing ever since the revealing of Reshiram and Zekrom.
What would it's strengths and weaknesses be?
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 07, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
There has been a lot of talk about Light typing ever since the revealing of Reshiram and Zekrom.
What would it's strengths and weaknesses be?
It might be weak to Dark, strong against Ghost, take half damage from Fighting and Psychic, and things like that.
Dark.
I tried reading it all and decided to stop.
Regardless of the "awesomeness" or "stupidness" a triple type would be, it will never happen.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 07, 2011, 09:36:23 PM
I tried reading it all and decided to stop.
Regardless of the "awesomeness" or "stupidness" a triple type would be, it will never happen.
I might be mistaken, but aren't you the one who brought it up a while back?
Quote from: Chandelure on April 07, 2011, 09:38:13 PM
I might be mistaken, but aren't you the one who brought it up a while back?
It might have been Chris.
Light type should be immune to Dark type, and Dark should be immune to Light.
Would be resistant to Electric as well.
Weak to Rock? Who intercourse ing knows or cares, it's unnecessary.
Back to the topic of NEW POKEMON.
Let's get an Armadillo.
Armaldo =/= Armadillo.
Donphan is more elephant.
Sandshrew is a shrew.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 07, 2011, 09:54:49 PM
Let's get an Armadillo.
Armaldo =/= Armadillo.
Donphan is more elephant.
Sandshrew is a shrew.
I suggested this a while back, although I'm not sure if anyone noticed.
But I agree with what you said.
None of the Pokemon we have now are anywhere related to an armadillo, and therefore would make a nice addition.
Donphan clearly is an elephant just as its name implies.
Don
phanEle
phant
Koala, Goat and Lemur would be good too.
Goat -> Ram
Goatesk and Rampede. :3
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 07, 2011, 09:54:49 PM
Light type should be immune to Dark type, and Dark should be immune to Light.
Sandshrew is a shrew.
I think Psychic is suppose to be Light type.
And Sandshrew isn't a shrew, he's a pangolin =P
Quote from: Cornwad on April 08, 2011, 07:55:04 AM
I think Psychic is suppose to be Light type.
And Sandshrew isn't a shrew, he's a pangolin =P
Actually, light is just spread all over the place. Flash is Normal, Light Screen is Psychic, Signal Beam is Bug, Power Gem is Rock, and then there's pretty much every Electric attack (I personally would say that if any single type would be "Light," Electric would make the most sense).
Quote from: Neerb on April 08, 2011, 09:50:22 AM
Actually, light is just spread all over the place. Flash is Normal, Light Screen is Psychic, Signal Beam is Bug, Power Gem is Rock, and then there's pretty much every Electric attack (I personally would say that if any single type would be "Light," Electric would make the most sense).
Yeah because light = electricity. :|
Even though it doesn't really. As far as my perspective on Light goes for this, the Pokémon I could see being Light-type if it existed are pokemon like Clefairy and Togekiss. And Espeon too, since the Light/Dark Espeon/Umbreon thing would make sense.
But if there WAS a light-type, I don't see it being very useful. It would have as many good moves as Bug did in Gen I (read: none).
I dunno. I can see light type having some use if it's used right, but it'll probably never happen. I still feel like we're missing one type to make things complete though....
Quote from: Chandelure on April 08, 2011, 11:48:09 AM
Yeah because light = electricity. :|
Even though it doesn't really. As far as my perspective on Light goes for this, the Pokémon I could see being Light-type if it existed are pokemon like Clefairy and Togekiss. And Espeon too, since the Light/Dark Espeon/Umbreon thing would make sense.
But if there WAS a light-type, I don't see it being very useful. It would have as many good moves as Bug did in Gen I (read: none).
I was just saying it's the
closest type, Captain Obvious, with Thunderbolt, Thunder (which is shown to really be lightning) and such; it makes more sense than saying Psychic is Light, especially seeing as how Psychic attacks are generally Telekenetic/Telepathic and shouldn't really even be visible.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 08, 2011, 12:39:27 AM
Goat -> Ram
Goatesk and Rampede. :3
That sounds awesome.
@Everyone else: I suppose Fighting would be considered Light, since Fighting-type represents justice, goodness, honorable and fair fighting.
Whereas Dark-type represents crime, evilness, and goes along the lines of sinister and underhanded fighting.
Dark type moves are dirty and low down like "Bite". Biting is considered cheating in a real life fight. Then we have "Beat Up" which is a group/gang attack, "Thief" which is stealing, "Fling" which is throwing an object and using it to your advantage, and then there's "Sucker Punch" which is generally attacking your opponent from behind or while he/she has his/her guard down, etc.
Some Fighting-types even have access to the "Justice Heart" ability which raises the Atk stat if hit by a Dark type move.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 08, 2011, 03:25:49 PM
That sounds awesome.
@Everyone else: I suppose Fighting would be considered Light, since Fighting-type represents justice, goodness, honorable and fair fighting.
Whereas Dark-type represents crime, evilness, and goes along the lines of sinister and underhanded fighting.
Dark type moves are dirty and low down like "Bite". Biting is considered cheating in a real life fight. Then we have "Beat Up" which is a group/gang attack, "Thief" which is stealing, "Fling" which is throwing an object and using it to your advantage, and then there's "Sucker Punch" which is generally attacking your opponent from behind or while he/she has his/her guard down, etc.
Some Fighting-types even have access to the "Justice Heart" ability which raises the Atk stat if hit by a Dark type move.
That actually makes a lot of sense; I mean, I always thought of it being Dark in the "elemental" sense, but now that I think about it, pretty much every Dark move is simply Dark in the underhanded sense. Heck, even the energy move Dark Pulse is generated by the user thinking dark thoughts.
Yeah but moves like Karate Chop or Low Kick are clearly Fighting moves, and fighting is based on Martial Arts, which =/= light.
Moves like Aura Sphere though seem like they could be light moves.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 08, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
Yeah but moves like Karate Chop or Low Kick are clearly Fighting moves, and fighting is based on Martial Arts, which =/= light.
Moves like Aura Sphere though seem like they could be light moves.
So by the logic, Lucario will gain the "Light" type?
Quote from: OshawottTrainerChris on April 08, 2011, 07:31:04 PM
So by the logic, Lucario will gain the "Light" type?
No, nothing's gaining any type. I'm just saying the concept of fighting = light isn't exactly sitting with me.
Quote from: Neerb on April 08, 2011, 04:26:59 PM
That actually makes a lot of sense; I mean, I always thought of it being Dark in the "elemental" sense, but now that I think about it, pretty much every Dark move is simply Dark in the underhanded sense. Heck, even the energy move Dark Pulse is generated by the user thinking dark thoughts.
I pretty much already knew that Dark wouldn't be an elemental themed typing as soon as I saw "Bite" get transformed from Normal typing in Gen 2.
"Nasty Plot" sounds very sinister and fits in wonderfully with Dark.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 08, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
Yeah but moves like Karate Chop or Low Kick are clearly Fighting moves, and fighting is based on Martial Arts, which =/= light.
Moves like Aura Sphere though seem like they could be light moves.
The in-game animations of Aura Sphere, Focus Blast, Life Gamble, Reversal, Drain Punch and Focus Punch all "look" Light based, and most of these are Physical.
Even the anime sort of leaves a bit of structure in this. (I don't watch the anime, but I know this for sure):
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Mach Punch anime description: "The user's fist
glows and it punches the opponent"
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/2/2c/Breloom_Mach_Punch.png/150px-Breloom_Mach_Punch.png) (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/3c/Hitmonchan_Mach_Punch_charging.png/150px-Hitmonchan_Mach_Punch_charging.png) (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/a1/Ash_Infernape_Mach_Punch.png/150px-Ash_Infernape_Mach_Punch.png)
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Brick Break anime descrption: "The user's hand turns
white and then it punches its opponent"
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/dd/Garchomp_Brick_Break.png/150px-Garchomp_Brick_Break.png) (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/af/Croagunk_Brick_Break.png/150px-Croagunk_Brick_Break.png)
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Force Palm anime description (Lucario): "Lucario runs up to the opponent and puts its palm on it. It then fires a huge
light green blast from its paw at the opponent"
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Force Palm anime description (Hariyama): "A
white ball forms in front of Hariyama's hand and it puts its arm up to the opponent. It then fires a
white blast from the ball at the opponent"
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/17/Maylene_Lucario_Force_Palm.png/150px-Maylene_Lucario_Force_Palm.png) (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/8/80/Hariyama_Force_Palm.png/150px-Hariyama_Force_Palm.png)
- Focus Blast anime description: "A ball of
light-blue energy is formed between the user's hands. The ball is then shot at the foe"
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/d/d7/Ursaring_Focus_Blast.png/150px-Ursaring_Focus_Blast.png) (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/c7/Lopunny_Focus_Blast.png/150px-Lopunny_Focus_Blast.png)
- Sky Uppercut anime description: "The user's fists/claws glow
light blue. It then uppercuts the opponent, leaving a
white trail behind.
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/f/fa/Blaziken_Sky_Uppercut.png/150px-Blaziken_Sky_Uppercut.png)
Yeah, a lot of these are indeed questionable, but the actions in the show seem much more logical than the ones shown in the games.
Uh well many moves cause the limbs to turn white. Anything that involves a specific body part and isn't a basic motion attack will. Pikachu's Iron Tail used to turn its tail white (now computer effects make it look like a shiny plate of iron) and also moves like X-Scissor turn claws white, etc.
I can see your point on Focus Blast, but the only reason that you see arms glow white, etc. is because they're emphasizing the attack. It's what makes X-Scissor different from Scratch, for example, and makes Brick Break different from say, Karate Chop. Iron Tail without glowing effects would look too much like Pound. These are stronger attacks, and they want them to appear as such.
It's only an emphasis thing on a lot of attacks, to draw attention to the specific buildup of strength on that body part. It gives the Pokemon that kind of POWER to execute that stronger-than-average force for the attack.. Otherwise it would just be punching and clawing. The glowing white means "Look here, the power builds up so the user is capable of superhuman strength."
And the LIGHT blue thing? Really, no. You have no argument there, since LIGHT blue is just a specific shade of blue. It looks to me like you're associating the word "light" with glowing light. Yeah it glows, but the word "light" in this case is referring to the shade of blue. You could also say "The user's claws glow cyan," but it was just the word choice of whoever wrote that part of the page.
Don't get me wrong, it glows, but by your logic half the attacks used in the anime would be Light type.
By Fruitflow's logic, Iron Tail is a light move.
Quote from: OshawottTrainerChris on April 09, 2011, 07:32:25 PM
By Fruitflow's logic, Iron Tail is a light move.
My point exactly.
HEY YOU FUCKS. GET BACK ON TOPIC.
Let's Retcon Yoshi and Kirby as a Pokemon. :3 Crossover time.
Yoshi has 4 alternate forms, which change depending on what color shell he's holding.
Normal - Green
Ground - Yellow
Flying - Blue
Fire - Red
Kirby is a Normal type with signature ability "Copy", which will change one of his moves the the last move the opponent used.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 09, 2011, 11:37:13 PM
HEY YOU FUCKS. GET BACK ON TOPIC.
Let's Retcon Yoshi and Kirby as a Pokemon. :3 Crossover time.
Yoshi has 4 alternate forms, which change depending on what color shell he's holding.
Normal - Green
Ground - Yellow
Flying - Blue
Fire - Red
Kirby is a Normal type with signature ability "Copy", which will change one of his moves the the last move the opponent used.
Absolutely not.
Let's have a Dinosaur based on Yoshi and a Jigglypuff-like Kirby then. Have some cross-references instead of cross-overs.
Dinoshi and Kirpuff
Dinoshi:
Tiny Dinosaur Pokemon
Ability: Shell-Change (Type changes depending on held Shell)
Kirpuff:
Vacuum Pokemon:
Ability: Copy (Last move changes to last move used by Opponent)
:3
I honestly would love to see a "real" giraffe based pokemon.
Girafarig just doesn't cut it.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 09, 2011, 11:56:59 PM
Let's have a Dinosaur based on Yoshi and a Jigglypuff-like Kirby then. Have some cross-references instead of cross-overs.
Dinoshi and Kirpuff
Dinoshi:
Tiny Dinosaur Pokemon
Ability: Shell-Change (Type changes depending on held Shell)
Kirpuff:
Vacuum Pokemon:
Ability: Copy (Last move changes to last move used by Opponent)
:3
Last move... what?
I guess it's sort of like Sketch.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 10, 2011, 09:43:40 AM
I guess it's sort of like Sketch.
Sketch is a move though. An ability that intercourse s with one of the Pokemon's moves seems undesirable.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 10, 2011, 09:50:09 AM
Sketch is a move though. An ability that intercourse s with one of the Pokemon's moves seems undesirable.
It's an automatic thing, basically like Ditto's auto-transform with it's new ability.
I'm a bit confused.
Are you saying that the move in the last spot (bottom right corner) changes to what your opponent used?
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 10, 2011, 02:41:09 PM
I'm a bit confused.
Are you saying that the move in the last spot (bottom right corner) changes to what your opponent used?
Bingo. :X
Well, if it's temporary I see nothing wrong with it.
Also, Shell Change sounds nice, even though Arceus has the same ability.
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 10, 2011, 02:58:29 PM
Well, if it's temporary I see nothing wrong with it.
Also, Shell Change sounds nice, even though Arceus has the same ability.
Shell-Change only has three specific changes. Red/Blue/Yellow shells = Fire/Flying/Ground Dinoshis.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 10, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
Bingo. :X
Yeah that's a little strange, really. Then basically this is a Pokemon who can only have three moves, as no matter what the last move is, it will be overwritten almost immediately.
Maybe we could develop something to use the Color Change ability that's not a Chameleon.
Quote from: Chandelure on April 10, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Maybe we could develop something to use the Color Change ability that's not a Chameleon.
A RAINBOW POKEMON.
I'm not quite sure what he looks like, but his ability is Color Change and he starts out as Normal type. He's a Special Attacking monster who can learn pretty much every special TM, and he learns Tri-Attack through level up.
Crayon Box Pokemon.
Someone mentioned Swordfish.
I keep picturing a fencing Swordfish named Engard (Enguard).
Water/Steel
It's swordnose would be an actual sword. It'd have a look of competition in it's face.
Evolves into a Sailfish.
Btw, once we get past starters and stuff, we'll use these ideas in our Pokedex :3
I like that.
Water/Steel is an excellent option.
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 11, 2011, 12:26:16 AM
Someone mentioned Swordfish.
I keep picturing a fencing Swordfish named Engard (Enguard).
Water/Steel
It's swordnose would be an actual sword. It'd have a look of competition in it's face.
Evolves into a Sailfish.
Btw, once we get past starters and stuff, we'll use these ideas in our Pokedex :3
So Water/Steel
Like Empoleon, except this thing can actually attack with good power.
I'm game.
GF loves making good typings with bad movepools/stats.