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Started by Juliette, November 30, 2008, 12:17:24 AM

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Juliette

Woosh!

Part two is finally done.  Team building is a go.  I'm waiting on a contribution from a friend, coming by the end of the week, and I'll be doing part three within this week also.

Then comes beautifying..

Sorry for the poopty formatting by the way.

Hishipi

I built my last team on shoddy to be a sweep team, but it ended up not fitting into any category you listed, all I can call it is a semi-stall team. ^_^
~Hishipi

jnfs2014

Awesome thread.

lol, sorry for spamming up your thread.

Juliette

Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on December 09, 2008, 07:23:32 PM
Awesome thread.

lol, sorry for spamming up your thread.
Haha, no problem

Quote from: Hishipi on December 09, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
I built my last team on shoddy to be a sweep team, but it ended up not fitting into any category you listed, all I can call it is a semi-stall team. ^_^
Actually semi stall is a category, I decided to forgo it because, well, its really a mix of sweep and stall, which still counts as a sweep team, I guess.  lol.

Might I ask what the team is?  I'd rather battle it before you tell me what it is, but eh.

:P

Hishipi

#19
Quote from: Spiritombreeder on December 10, 2008, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on December 09, 2008, 07:23:32 PM
Awesome thread.

lol, sorry for spamming up your thread.
Haha, no problem

Quote from: Hishipi on December 09, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
I built my last team on shoddy to be a sweep team, but it ended up not fitting into any category you listed, all I can call it is a semi-stall team. ^_^
Actually semi stall is a category, I decided to forgo it because, well, its really a mix of sweep and stall, which still counts as a sweep team, I guess.  lol.

Might I ask what the team is?  I'd rather battle it before you tell me what it is, but eh.

:P

well, stall + sweep + weather :O

brb, getting team...

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf
---
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
- Drill Peck
- Roost
---
Hippowdon (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/84 Atk/2 Def/172 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Slack Off
---
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/28 Spd/168 SAtk
Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
---
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 128 HP/134 Atk/124 Def/124 SDef
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Zen Headbutt
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
--- If you play agaisnt this team, you hate this Jirachi, end of discussion. ^_^
Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/10 SAtk/124 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Poison Jab
- Confuse Ray
---
~Hishipi

Juliette

Quote from: Hishipi on December 10, 2008, 07:36:20 PM


well, stall + sweep + weather :O

brb, getting team...

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf
---
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
- Drill Peck
- Roost
---
Hippowdon (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/84 Atk/2 Def/172 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Slack Off
---
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/28 Spd/168 SAtk
Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
---
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 128 HP/134 Atk/124 Def/124 SDef
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Zen Headbutt
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
--- If you play agaisnt this team, you hate this Jirachi, end of discussion. ^_^
Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/10 SAtk/124 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Poison Jab
- Confuse Ray
---
Woosh lots of mistakes here.  I didn't quite cover everything apparently.  Send me this via a PM will you, I'll help you fix that up.

Macawmoses

Heh, like your example is any better SB :P

Juliette

Quote from: mackormoses on December 12, 2008, 01:02:51 AM
Heh, like your example is any better SB :P
D;

At least my EV spreads are correct x_x.


Hishipi

Quote from: Spiritombreeder on December 12, 2008, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on December 12, 2008, 01:02:51 AM
Heh, like your example is any better SB :P
D;

At least my EV spreads are correct x_x.



weird EV spreads, but it works. :robottongue:
~Hishipi

jnfs2014


Hishipi

Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on December 13, 2008, 12:48:27 PM
no 252/252/6 or 129/129/52 sets?

on my team? skarm is running a 252/252/6 set, the ttar set is also a standard one
~Hishipi

Juliette

#26
I'll just go over it here ;3
Quote from: Hishipi on December 10, 2008, 07:36:20 PM


well, stall + sweep + weather :O

brb, getting team...

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Surf
---
Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
You don't really need that spD there, put that in speed so you can outspeed some things. 
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
- Drill Peck
- Roost
---
Hippowdon (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/84 Atk/2 Def/172 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Slack Off
---
Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/60 Atk/28 Spd/168 SAtk
Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
---
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 128 HP/134 Atk/124 Def/124 SDef
Here's your main problem..
You don't need even defenses with a jolly jirachi.  The rest of your team have great defenses. 
240 HP / 56 Atk / 76 Def / 136 Spe  is standard for good reason, you can outspeed what you need to while still having great survivability

Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Zen Headbutt
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
--- If you play agaisnt this team, you hate this Jirachi, end of discussion. ^_^
Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP/124 Def/10 SAtk/124 SDef
Same problem as with the previous, keep it in spD and spA
standard is 204 HP / 96 SpA / 172 SpD / 36 Spe

Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Poison Jab
- Confuse Ray
---

Also, it looks more like a stall team to me :P.
Put SR over EQ on swampert, and give skarmory spikes.  That way you have more entry hazards to do more damage.

Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on December 13, 2008, 12:48:27 PM
no 252/252/6 or 129/129/52 sets?
128/128/52 is rarely used.  I haven't went over how to create EV spreads yet, but usually the purpose of having x amount of EVs in def and y amount of EVs in speed is to not get 3HKO'd or to outspeed a particular thing.

edit- lol code

Wedge

Lols, that looks like a pretty thorough guide SB. I didn't read all of it, but it looked pretty solid.

Juliette

Quote from: Wedge on December 23, 2008, 09:50:45 PM
Lols, that looks like a pretty thorough guide SB. I didn't read all of it, but it looked pretty solid.
The team that's in the team building guide is poop, that's really it.
Uh, I'd appreciate donations wedge, especially in part 3 (how to actually battle and stuffs), your better then I am so I'd prefer your help :P

Juliette

I realize I've been lazy with this v;

But I'm thinking of starting off a Team Building class, since a text tutorial really doesn't cover it.
If you're interested let me know via posting, I'll see what i can do.
In it I'll go over the basics of team building, some strategies you can use when making the team, etc.