[14:23] Custom: if you make pokemon hold TMs from old games and then trade them to black and white do the TMs then get the infinite effect?
[14:23] Custom: or do they still disappear after use?
i was asking this in #nyanya but they instantly spammed the chat with poop about minecraft and I don't think blu saw it
it was directed at blu because she has the game.
I don't think the TM roster from Gen IV can be traded over anymore. No learned HMs and Items can be transferred over.
Quote from: PuttyChris on February 23, 2011, 04:59:37 PM
I don't think the TM roster from Gen IV can be traded over anymore. No learned HMs and Items can be transferred over.
fffffff now i have to unlearn all my hms ohno
Pokemon transferred cannot hold items of any kind. Sucks, I know. You gotta get all those power items and poop again.
As far as learned HMs, I don't know on that one. But yeah, the TM numbers changed, some TMs are gone, new ones took their place, and either way you can't transfer ANY held items or berries.
I believe berries are only available via DW.
i am sad
i had 4 amulet coins
do you know how much money i would make?
LOTS OF IT
also what am i supposed to do with all these master balls i never used?
Quote from: Black Mage on February 23, 2011, 09:53:32 PM
i am sad
i had 4 amulet coins
do you know how much money i would make?
LOTS OF IT
also what am i supposed to do with all these master balls i never used?
Well...use them on roaming Pokemon? Take them to versions where you haven't caught a legendary yet?
Quote from: PuttyChris on February 23, 2011, 10:19:27 PM
Well...use them on roaming Pokemon? Take them to versions where you haven't caught a legendary yet?
i'll just go find another shiny before the new games come out
that'll show gamefreak who is boss
I usually attempt to catch legendaries with pokeballs.
Quote from: Negative Vibes on February 24, 2011, 02:22:58 AM
I usually attempt to catch legendaries with pokeballs.
The roaming ones? GOODLUCKWITHTHAT
Learned TM moves can be kept on your Pokemon during transfer to B/W, even if it's a TM not available anymore in B/W
Learned HM moves cannot be kept. They must be deleted before transfer.
Transferred Pokemon cannot hold any items, including TMs.
Quote from: bluaki on February 24, 2011, 04:31:34 AM
Learned TM moves can be kept on your Pokemon during transfer to B/W, even if it's a TM not available anymore in B/W
Learned HM moves cannot be kept. They must be deleted before transfer.
Transferred Pokemon cannot hold any items, including TMs.
This is exactly what I thought.
Quote from: Kayo on February 24, 2011, 04:30:02 AM
The roaming ones? GOODLUCKWITHTHAT
Shadow Tag FTW, since Arena Trap sucks with floaters!
Quote from: Negative Vibes on February 24, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
Shadow Tag FTW, since Arena Trap sucks with floaters!
Yeah, but Wobbuffet sucks at safely weakening a roamer unless it takes little enough damage that its Counters and Mirror Coats aren't doing much. Still, it's kind of unreliable IMO. You could be trying to just nudge their HP into the red when suddenly, Critical Hit. That you bounce back at them. Happened to me once.
If I don't have a Master Ball, I get a strong, fast lv 100 with False Swipe (I got a Sceptile for this purpose) and the first time I see the roamer, I use False Swipe. Sometimes it gets its HP down to 1, sometimes I have to repeat this step a second time. It runs away after this, no big deal. Then I track it down with Wobbuffet. It's safely weakened now so I don't need to attack. From here I just throw Ultra Balls. Or Dusk balls, if it's night time. Or repeat balls, if I have the pokemon in my pokedex as "caught" already. But there's always Crobat and Mean Look, good speed + blocking move, but Crobat isn't great at staying in a battle long without attacking. Then again, it can also get Hypnosis through breeding.
Actually, this just came to me. I'm pretty sure Spider Web works just like Mean Look, but it stays in effect even after the user switches out. Actually, I just checked. It doesn't. I stays in effect only if the Spider Webber uses Baton Pass. Ariados can use both moves, though it needs to breed for BP. YAY IT'S GOOD FOR SOMETHING. Sort of. Anyway, here's how my plan goes.
1. Send out Ariados first. It's not extremely fast so a high level would be preferable.
2. Use Spider Web.
3. Use Baton Pass and switch to a False Swiper
4. False Swipe it to 1 HP. If you have a Hypnosis + False Swiper (Gallade can do this), use Hypnosis after it's false swiped.
5. Catch your trapped sleeping roamer with 1Hp easily.
Wow, that's actually a really good sounding idea. Sadly enough, here's the catch. Spider Web's effects are nullified by Baton Pass in Gen V. So I won't be getting any use out of this. But yeah, it seems to make sense to me.
That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
I've heard so much about False Swipe and it's usage.
I taught it to my Scizor, but never really used it.
Quote from: Negative Vibes on February 24, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
I've heard so much about False Swipe and it's usage.
I taught it to my Scizor, but never really used it.
If you don't have easy Smeargle + Sketch access (most people don't, it's hard to find some moves without a double battle), here are some useful pokemon I use for catching:
Parasect: Spore + False Swipe, for easy weakening, also Aromatherapy in case those annoying things decide to paralyze you or something.
Butterfree: Compoundeyes ability, Thief + Sleep Powder + Flash + Whirlwind. I'm surprised at how many people aren't familiar with this. Compoundeyes increases the chance of the wild Pokemon holding an item. Useful for certain rare items like the Light Ball. Also, Compoundeyes raises Sleep Powder's accuracy to 97.5%, making it nearly as accurate as Spore. Thief is for taking the item without even catching the Pokemon, Flash is for extended battles when you don't want anything swatting your poor Butterfree, as well as lighting up the dark caves you might find Legendary pokemon in, and Whirlwind if it runs into Mean Look from one of those darn Golbats by accident. Also, it's a Flying type, so it avoids Arena Trap. I use one of these in Emerald and I love it. Keep in mind Venomoth can also do this, except for it's not part Flying, so Arena Trap is bad news.
Synchronize + Hypnosis: A few pokemon can do this, like Gardevoir. Just use Synchronize to get the nature you want and induce sleep. You can't use Synchronize with Compoundeyes though. Put the pokemon with the ability you'd rather take advantage of in the front of your party.
Wobbuffet: Always useful for extended battles. Does not have to be roamers. But toss one of these things out if a stationary legendary forces you into a corner. The tough blue blob will take any hit that comes its way. Plus, Safeguard. Carfeul with countering though.
Basically, False Swipe, Sleep move, and abilities are what you need. Those are just some of my favorite Pokemon to have around when going huntin'. Especially going through caves with Pokemon in them (Heatran, Mewtwo, etc) it's good to have things like these with you.
That's a very interesting set of tactics.
I just might give that a shot.
Catch Value = ((( 3 * Max HP - 2 * HP ) * (Catch Rate * Ball Modifier ) / (3 * Max HP) ) * Status Modifier
However, you're missing a few things. Confusion and Infatuation along with stat reduction.
I know it sounds crazy, but it actually works.
And since the "Confuse" and "Infatuation" status effects can be stacked in conjunction with the primary effects, it actually makes catching much more effective.
Paralyze (Or Sleep) + Infatuation + Confusion = Check(mate?).
But of course this strategy is only effective against those with a gender ratio.
I've also discovered that dropping a wild pokemon's stats raises the catch rate.
Quote from: Negative Vibes on February 25, 2011, 11:30:00 PM
That's a very interesting set of tactics.
I just might give that a shot.
Catch Value = ((( 3 * Max HP - 2 * HP ) * (Catch Rate * Ball Modifier ) / (3 * Max HP) ) * Status Modifier
However, you're missing a few things. Confusion and Infatuation along with stat reduction.
I know it sounds crazy, but it actually works.
And since the "Confuse" and "Infatuation" status effects can be stacked in conjunction with the primary effects, it actually makes catching much more effective.
Paralyze (Or Sleep) + Infatuation + Confusion = Check(mate?).
But of course this strategy is only effective against those with a gender ratio.
I've also discovered that dropping a wild pokemon's stats raises the catch rate.
Can you confirm this? Most of what you're saying looks like superstition. Honestly, I've noticed no difference due to stats being lowered. But one reason is probably the fact that a sleeping Pokémon will be easy enough to catch on its own. I never bother with other crap, because with sleep and sleep alone, in addition to reducing their HP to 1 if need be, you can usually catch what you want with a few of the right balls. Otherwise you have to burden yourself with extra Pokémon to catch things (I'll just stick with my Parasect, thankyouverymuch).
The only time I've found where 1 HP + Sleep still might not work is with those Ubers with the Catch Rate of 3. But honestly, in my opinion, 1 HP and Sleep will get the job done, and you only need a single Pokémon in your party to do the job.
LOL. My bad.
I meant to scratch that part out.
Stat reduction has no affect on the ratio.
However, I have experimented with Confusion and Infatuation while trying to catch a wild Chansey (Catch rate of 30), and it feels somewhat different.
Quote from: Negative Vibes on February 26, 2011, 09:33:26 PM
LOL. My bad.
I meant to scratch that part out.
Stat reduction has no affect on the ratio.
However, I have experimented with Confusion and Infatuation while trying to catch a wild Chansey (Catch rate of 30), and it feels somewhat different.
May be sheer coincidence. I think only Poison, Paralysis, Burn, Freeze, and Sleep have an effect (Sleep and Freeze are better). I'm not entirely positive on the subject, but I think I might have read this somewhere...
Quote from: Kayo on February 26, 2011, 10:47:38 PM
May be sheer coincidence. I think only Poison, Paralysis, Burn, Freeze, and Sleep have an effect (Sleep and Freeze are better). I'm not entirely positive on the subject, but I think I might have read this somewhere...
I checked a few days ago, and I'm pretty sure its just Sleep, Freeze, and Paralysis.
Quote from: So_So_Man on February 27, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
I checked a few days ago, and I'm pretty sure its just Sleep, Freeze, and Paralysis.
Not necessarily.
Both Poison and Burn also affect the catch rate.
The reason why you here so much on Freeze and Sleep is because those 2 are more efficient compared to the other 3.
Burn, Poison and Paralysis have a x1.5 effect on the ratio.
While Sleep and Freeze have a x2 effect on the ratio.
Therefore, making the 2 latter a much more reliable choice for altering the catch rate.
Quote from: So_So_Man on February 27, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
I checked a few days ago, and I'm pretty sure its just Sleep, Freeze, and Paralysis.
Common misconception, considering those three have to do with hindering a Pokémon's ability to move, and as such, to break out of a ball. In truth, any of those statuses work. Just Freeze and Sleep are slightly better.
Exactly.
0.5 may not look like that big difference, but you want to make the most out of what you can when catching something you really want.