Personally, I find the UI vastly inferior to the UI found in HG/SS, especially with the removal of the ability to set L to a and the removal of the run-toggle.
As far as the AI goes, it seems to be less intelligent, or at least more repetitive. For example, every time I fought one of the poliwag wannabes, they would use growl, then supersonic, then round, and bubblebeam until the end of the fight.
I'll probably find some more stuff to complain about later, but for now, here's a topic to discuss what makes Gen V bad.
Tympole? They're annoying and appear EVERYFUCKINGWHERE in that route, but they don't always follow that pattern for me. Null and void.
I often get Supersonic, Growl twice, bubblebeam, Supersonic if I've snapped out by now, and Round if my pokemon's strong against water. Not as predictable as you say.
Fair enough, but I still find the AI making really stupid decisions, like using leer when I have low HP.
Quote from: So_So_Man on March 07, 2011, 07:37:39 PM
Fair enough, but I still find the AI making really stupid decisions, like using leer when I have low HP.
True, but the fact that they always get critical hits when you least want them to balances it out.
You guys are being too paranoid. It's clear Tampole is the new Zubat.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 07, 2011, 07:52:24 PM
You guys are being too paranoid. It's clear Tampole is the new Zubat.
If Zubat was meant to be an outdoor Water type.
But yeah, it's far more annoying than Woobat. More annoying than Poliwag was. (This is definitely Poliwag 2.0)
Quote from: Kayo on March 07, 2011, 08:15:46 PM
If Zubat was meant to be an outdoor Water type.
But yeah, it's far more annoying than Woobat. More annoying than Poliwag was. (This is definitely Poliwag 2.0)
Poliwag isn't annoying at all. Magikarps are.
I find nothing wrong with this game....
EXCEPT FUCKING PATRAT! FUCK THIS THING!
Quote from: Magnum on March 07, 2011, 08:47:40 PM
I find nothing wrong with this game....
EXCEPT FUCKING PATRAT! FUCK THIS THING!
Watchog is watching you.
Quote from: Magnum on March 07, 2011, 08:47:40 PM
I find nothing wrong with this game....
EXCEPT FUCKING PATRAT! FUCK THIS THING!
I find everything wrong with this game....
CAN'T FIND FREAKING SAWK IN MY VERSION!
Quote from: Negative Vibes on March 08, 2011, 12:31:07 AM
I find everything wrong with this game....
CAN'T FIND FREAKING SAWK IN MY VERSION!
I haven't found Throh, so it's all good.
Also though, last night, in Pinwheel forest, I found Pansear in the shaking grass. First time I found something other than Audino.
Quote from: Kayo on March 08, 2011, 04:33:02 AM
I haven't found Throh, so it's all good.
Also though, last night, in Pinwheel forest, I found Pansear in the shaking grass. First time I found something other than Audino.
each area has a different one besides Audino that also appears in shaking grass. I've seen Emolga, Pansear, Throh, and some others. Yeah.
Quote from: Nayrman on March 08, 2011, 06:51:18 AM
each area has a different one besides Audino that also appears in shaking grass. I've seen Emolga, Pansear, Throh, and some others. Yeah.
Throh doesn't appear in shaking grass but normal grass.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 08, 2011, 07:21:38 AM
Throh doesn't appear in shaking grass but normal grass.
You probably have a different version. Throh and Sawk have different rarity levels in each version.
Anyway, there's so much about this game that's better that I've found it difficult to find anything to complain about. I guess it's kind of annoying how Zorua doesn't get a good stab until forever, but that's a personal problem.
Only legitimate gameplay complaint: the incredibly convenient, always available touch-screen menu of HG/SS wasn't carried over. The touch screen menus are still here, but I personally don't think it's as good as HG/SS. (nitpick)
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 08, 2011, 12:15:58 PM
Only legitimate gameplay complaint: the incredibly convenient, always available touch-screen menu of HG/SS wasn't carried over. The touch screen menus are still here, but I personally don't think it's as good as HG/SS. (nitpick)
No, it's the fact there's no automatic run option.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 08, 2011, 12:18:01 PM
No, it's the fact there's no automatic run option.
That kind of falls under the same category, I would think.
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 08, 2011, 12:22:06 PM
That kind of falls under the same category, I would think.
You have to press X to get to the menu instead of just touching icons that were already there. I know what you meant.
And I'm not used to not having autorun D:
Quote from: Kayo on March 08, 2011, 04:33:02 AM
I haven't found Throh, so it's all good.
Also though, last night, in Pinwheel forest, I found Pansear in the shaking grass. First time I found something other than Audino.
What do I do to make the patches shake?
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 08, 2011, 01:29:24 PM
What do I do to make the patches shake?
You can't do anything.
Quote from: Kayo on March 08, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
You can't do anything.
Well that sucks.
Also, the thing I really dislike about this Gen is the removal of the VS. Seeker.
Which means EV training will be a tad bit more time consuming compared to the previous ones.
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 08, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
Well that sucks.
Also, the thing I really dislike about this Gen is the removal of the VS. Seeker.
Which means EV training will be a tad bit more time consuming compared to the previous ones.
they.. removed it?
How the intercourse do you rebattle trainers then?
Quote from: Kayo on March 08, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
they.. removed it?
How the intercourse do you rebattle trainers then?
Yep. It was a very bad move on GameFreak's part.
The E4 is pretty much the only place you can re-battle 24/7 and gain exp. from, and that's really lame.
Audino also gives the most exp. to low leveled pokemon.
Everyone at Smogon is raging about it, lol.
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 08, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
Yep. It was a very bad move on GameFreak's part.
The E4 is pretty much the only place you can re-battle 24/7 and gain exp. from, and that's really lame.
Audino also gives the most exp. to low leveled pokemon.
Everyone at Smogon is raging about it, lol.
I wonder how hard it would be for them to patch it in...
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 08, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
Yep. It was a very bad move on GameFreak's part.
The E4 is pretty much the only place you can re-battle 24/7 and gain exp. from, and that's really lame.
Audino also gives the most exp. to low leveled pokemon.
Everyone at Smogon is raging about it, lol.
The hell? So it's like R/B again? That sucks. You can't even rebattle gym leaders. Or anyone.
I kinda wish my Simipour was female now...
Quote from: So_So_Man on March 08, 2011, 05:08:47 PM
I wonder how hard it would be for them to patch it in...
At this point I think it's too late for that.
Quote from: Kayo on March 08, 2011, 07:07:52 PM
The hell? So it's like R/B again? That sucks. You can't even rebattle gym leaders. Or anyone.
LOL. Pretty much.
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 09, 2011, 08:57:37 AM
At this point I think it's too late for that.
LOL. Pretty much.
They better intercourse ing put that in the 3rd game then.
LOL. Also, say goodbye to Lucky Egg since items can't be transfered over.
Quote from: Shattered Spirit on March 09, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
LOL. Also, say goodbye to Lucky Egg since items can't be transfered over.
There's gotta be a way to get in in B/W.
Quote from: Kayo on March 09, 2011, 03:01:49 PM
There's gotta be a way to get in in B/W.
You actually get that item through no difficulties in this game.
LOL. There better be a way.
Otherwise my EV training will be hell.
They blatantly give you Lucky Egg. It's hardly a problem...
Well then that solves 1 problem. :P
Quote from: Nayrman on March 09, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
They blatantly give you Lucky Egg. It's hardly a problem...
Where/when?
Quote from: Kayo on March 09, 2011, 03:57:56 PM
Where/when?
[spoiler]Professor Juniper gives it to you (for the sake of
evolving Pokemon SCIENCE!!!) in Chargestone Cave.[/spoiler]
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 09, 2011, 04:09:35 PM
[spoiler]Professor Juniper gives it to you (for the sake of evolving Pokemon SCIENCE!!!) in Chargestone Cave.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]During story mode even? Fucking. Yes.[/spoiler]
Also, wait. Why do I care if there's no VS. Seeker? I got Black. You can rebattle the trainers in Black City daily.
...Can't you? ;_;
Quote from: Kayo on March 09, 2011, 05:30:14 PM
[spoiler]During story mode even? Fucking. Yes.[/spoiler]
Also, wait. Why do I care if there's no VS. Seeker? I got Black. You can rebattle the trainers in Black City daily.
...Can't you? ;_;
I was thinking about that, but needed a confirmation first.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 09, 2011, 08:53:04 PM
I was thinking about that, but needed a confirmation first.
I think I read that there are different trainers daily.
And you can keep re-battling them when they come back.
But I'm not sure.
Quote from: Kayo on March 09, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
I think I read that there are different trainers daily.
And you can keep re-battling them when they come back.
But I'm not sure.
That's what I heard, but I think they said something about it being a coliseum/stadium in-game in both versions.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 10, 2011, 10:55:16 AM
That's what I heard, but I think they said something about it being a coliseum/stadium in-game in both versions.
The pokemon are at non-constant levels around the 60s. Looks to me like just regular battles. I hope. D:
Quote from: Kayo on March 10, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
The pokemon are at non-constant levels around the 60s. Looks to me like just regular battles. I hope. D:
Well then you're lucky.
While I'm stuck with White Forest my brother gets the awesome Black City.
That stinks.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 10, 2011, 02:03:27 PM
Well then you're lucky.
While I'm stuck with White Forest my brother gets the awesome Black City.
That stinks.
You can fight your rivals after ending the main story. Bianca can be fought on Saturday nights while Cheren can be battled periodically at Victory Road. The last one can be fought more times, but I don't know which days those are.
Also, don't forget Cynthia's summer home (she's the second most powerful trainer in the series, after Red from Johto) and the Game Freak employee (same levels as Cynthia, but far worse pokemon).
Oh, but THIS guy takes the cake for being a big cheater. Since it relates heavily to the plot, I'll just use a spoiler box.
[spoiler]That Ghetsis guy has a lvl. 54 Pokemon that ALWAYS evolves at lvl. 64. Worse yet, that thing is a REAL pain to deal with.[/spoiler]
Maybe I should do a trade + Lucky Egg to make things much faster.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 10, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
Oh, but THIS guy takes the cake for being a big cheater. Since it relates heavily to the plot, I'll just use a spoiler box.
[spoiler]That Ghetsis guy has a lvl. 54 Pokemon that ALWAYS evolves at lvl. 64. Worse yet, that thing is a REAL pain to deal with.[/spoiler]
Blizzard + Critical Hit = 1 HKO :)
Quote from: Nayrman on March 10, 2011, 05:04:22 PM
Blizzard + Critical Hit = 1 HKO :)
Geez, you think is that easy? It doesn't help that monster is way faster than any of your Pokemon UNLESS you trained only one during the whole journey.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 10, 2011, 05:12:31 PM
Geez, you think is that easy? It doesn't help that monster is way faster than any of your Pokemon UNLESS you trained only one during the whole journey.
Uh, my Samurott was four levels lower than it yet I was still faster. :|
Hmmm, then it's possible for Emboar to outspeed it also.
Considering the fact that it has a base 5 difference in Speed compared to Samurott.
Very interesting.
Alright, so, you know how some of you were complaining about a lack of Vs Seeker?
http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dailyevent.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dailyevent.shtml)
As it turns out, there's already PLENTY of trainers to rebattle daily.
That sure solves many problems.
Fight Cynthia EACH day during Spring? Can anybody say massive EXP. spree?
As long as they're re-fight-able I'm completely fine with the "once a day" restriction.
I just encountered a fatal glitch. When you take part in a double battle, if both of your pokemon get KO'd, the game screws up, and you can't continue. Is this a new feature to the series?
That has never happened to me before.
I did additional research, and it turns out that its not a glitch, but really crappy UI. What they want you to do is choose which slot the pokemon should go into before you choose the second pokemon.
Actually, now that you mention it, I do remember something like that.
But I rarely ever lose in a doubles.
Quote from: So_So_Man on March 12, 2011, 01:13:19 PM
I did additional research, and it turns out that its not a glitch, but really crappy UI. What they want you to do is choose which slot the pokemon should go into before you choose the second pokemon.
...the intercourse ? Don't they just send out the first in the left slot, and the second in the right?
This is going to ruin my fun of doing the Battle Tower doubles in this game.
That's happened to me once, it was before the Triple Battle in that one city with the Ground Gym.
I learned how to fix it when I accidentally clicked a fainted Pokémon and it told me "You cannot switch in a fainted Pokémon"
Anyway, one complaint I have is the menu, it isn't as convenient as it was in HG/SS.
And another complaint is the lack of search in the Pokédex. I never really used it much, but now with all these new Pokémon who's names I'm not remembering fast enough, I kinda want it.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on March 12, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
That's happened to me once, it was before the Triple Battle in that one city with the Ground Gym.
I learned how to fix it when I accidentally clicked a fainted Pokémon and it told me "You cannot switch in a fainted Pokémon"
Anyway, one complaint I have is the menu, it isn't as convenient as it was in HG/SS.
And another complaint is the lack of search in the Pokédex. I never really used it much, but now with all these new Pokémon who's names I'm not remembering fast enough, I kinda want it.
You get search later.
[spoiler]The professor's dad will meet you eventually, and upgrade your pokedex to keep track of the forms and gender differences, as well as add a search function[/spoiler]
Spoiler'd just in case.
Also does the click-on-a-fainting really work? What do you do, just try to send in something fainted, then send in the two things you want?
You waste a turn if you use a wrong item on the wrong Pokemon. That Revive you have there is a trap.
Traps are everywhere in this game.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 12, 2011, 10:44:45 PM
You waste a turn if you use a wrong item on the wrong Pokemon. That Revive you have there is a trap.
Yeah, that happened to me. I went to use a lemonade to heal something, and I accidentally JUST missed the correct box and hit a fainted pokemon.
"Used a Lemonade, but it had no effect!"
then the other Pokemon killed mine. ;_;
Oh, so we have yet another gimmick from GF?
Nice.
jesus intercourse why can't you intercourse ing skip the credits?
Quote from: Custom on March 14, 2011, 05:07:18 PM
jesus intercourse why can't you intercourse ing skip the credits?
Doesn't it save right before them like it always does?
Quote from: Kayo on March 14, 2011, 06:05:10 PM
Doesn't it save right before them like it always does?
i think so
but i just don't want to turn it off the avoid the 2 wasted minutes and then have it be like LOL YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR 100,000 YEN
Did you try holding B? That speeds it up.
Quote from: Custom on March 14, 2011, 06:54:32 PM
i think so
but i just don't want to turn it off the avoid the 2 wasted minutes and then have it be like LOL YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR 100,000 YEN
Uh...what?
I always just turn the game off after it saves there, or soft reset.
After watching the ending credits, the game automatically saves.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 14, 2011, 07:54:43 PM
After watching the ending credits, the game automatically saves.
...after? >_>
Well that sucks.
Quote from: Nayrman on March 14, 2011, 07:04:22 PM
Did you try holding B? That speeds it up.
it speeds it up
but that isn't as fast as the press start to completely skip them feature that was in every other game
The Pokemon designs
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 15, 2011, 05:27:12 PM
The Pokemon designs
yeah most of them are ugly as intercourse
They're awesome compared to Gen IV, IMO.
Quote from: Kayo on March 15, 2011, 07:59:09 PM
They're awesome compared to Gen IV, IMO.
If we're comparing, then they don't have much (as a whole) on Gens 1 & 2.
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 15, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
If we're comparing, then they don't have much (as a whole) on Gens 1 & 2.
A few are pretty unique, to say that much. Of course, not counting the things put in to replace the recurring Pokemon from the earlier gens, like Geodude.
Quote from: Kayo on March 15, 2011, 08:11:32 PM
A few are pretty unique, to say that much. Of course, not counting the things put in to replace the recurring Pokemon from the earlier gens, like Geodude.
if by unique you mean ugly then yes
Quote from: Custom on March 15, 2011, 09:02:26 PM
if by unique you mean ugly then yes
If by ugly you mean
[spoiler](http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQVKO9pZkVhoNkcxNgWdNbGeovycWCB4je0d0u_PiOma8B0KUnxw&t=1)[/spoiler]
then yes.
More like Thugly.
While we're on the topic of ugly designs...
[spoiler]
meet Condomfingers
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0aKDQtvOVfEyecGA66X56hkWTdCtHYzFhc3gJbD73b17I1CTBzw)[/spoiler]
I'm surprised no one has commented on
[spoiler](http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/palpitoad.jpg)[/spoiler]
I mean, what the intercourse were they thinking? The Poliwag line is awesome but this line is just...retarded
Quote from: Zero on March 16, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
I'm surprised no one has commented on
[spoiler](http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/palpitoad.jpg)[/spoiler]
I mean, what the intercourse were they thinking? The Poliwag line is awesome but this line is just...retarded
The first one is scarier, but it makes kind of sense because it does look like a tadpole. And then the third evolution makes up for having this...thing in your team.
Quote from: Zero on March 16, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
I'm surprised no one has commented on
[spoiler](http://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/palpitoad.jpg)[/spoiler]
I mean, what the intercourse were they thinking? The Poliwag line is awesome but this line is just...retarded
That thing's got the most annoying intercourse ing cry everywhere. It sounds just like those retarded frog things I hear ALL NIGHT LONG in the summer here I HATE IT SO MUCH ;_;
[spoiler](http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/10/594Alomomola.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/dc/559Scraggy.png)[/spoiler]
[spoiler]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll191/IceQueen57/Pokemon/Allison/Allisons%20Pokemon/Milotic1.jpg[/spoiler]
Ugliest pokemon of the entire series.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 16, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
[spoiler]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll191/IceQueen57/Pokemon/Allison/Allisons%20Pokemon/Milotic1.jpg[/spoiler]
Ugliest pokemon of the entire series.
No. (http://gyazo.com/67263a346529a4ae5fd50e286617960b.png)
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 16, 2011, 02:08:07 PM
No. (http://gyazo.com/67263a346529a4ae5fd50e286617960b.png)
The male form of that thing looks so much better.
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 16, 2011, 12:04:35 PM
[spoiler](http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/10/594Alomomola.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/dc/559Scraggy.png)[/spoiler]
The megaluvdisk is retarded, but Scraggy's grown on me after seeing it's animation in some Musicals. Pretty funny the first time.
Also
[spoiler]
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/a2/577Yuniran.png/180px-577Yuniran.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/ce/578Daburan.png/200px-578Daburan.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/19/579Reuniclus.png/300px-579Reuniclus.png)
Anyone else get "Aborted Fetus" from the look of these guys? or is that just me?
[/spoiler]
To me it looks like a Stitch experiment.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 16, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
The male form of that thing looks so much better.
The female version violates children's dreams.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on March 16, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
The megaluvdisk is retarded, but Scraggy's grown on me after seeing it's animation in some Musicals. Pretty funny the first time.
Also
[spoiler]
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/a2/577Yuniran.png/180px-577Yuniran.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/ce/578Daburan.png/200px-578Daburan.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/19/579Reuniclus.png/300px-579Reuniclus.png)
Anyone else get "Aborted Fetus" from the look of these guys? or is that just me?
[/spoiler]
Looks more like a Kirby enemy.
I shat bricks when I realized that the diamond on the first and second forms is ACTUALLY a mouth.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on March 16, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
The megaluvdisk is retarded, but Scraggy's grown on me after seeing it's animation in some Musicals. Pretty funny the first time.
Also
[spoiler]
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/a/a2/577Yuniran.png/180px-577Yuniran.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/c/ce/578Daburan.png/200px-578Daburan.png)
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/19/579Reuniclus.png/300px-579Reuniclus.png)
Anyone else get "Aborted Fetus" from the look of these guys? or is that just me?
[/spoiler]
i had named mine abortion, lolol
Quote from: Kayo on March 16, 2011, 04:39:50 PM
I shat bricks when I realized that the diamond on the first and second forms is ACTUALLY a mouth.
LOL. I pretty much already knew this.
But it looks normal to me.
Quote from: FruitFlow on March 16, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
LOL. I pretty much already knew this.
But it looks normal to me.
I always just saw a random red diamond in the sprites. The official art is when I figured it out.
Quote from: Kayo on March 16, 2011, 05:15:10 PM
I always just saw a random red diamond in the sprites. The official art is when I figured it out.
Oh. You mean the in-game sprite.
I thought you meant ever since it was first revealed.
To be honest, I knew the red "diamond" was a mouth.
As did I.
Quote from: PuttyChris on March 16, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
To be honest, I knew the red "diamond" was a mouth.
I knew it was on the final form, but on the first form I just saw a diamond. It's because it was right between the eyes, and well
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9e/577.png)
It looks flat.
Car Pool Lane to the center.