I bought it. It only goes up to the Elite Four I think. No Kanto. Just like the D/P guide doesn't go up to that island. They have been seriously lacking in quality, though I will admit this one is better than the D/P one, but at a $5 price increase. Now that I think of it, I only buy them for the maps so I can challenge all of the trainers and get all of the items. They need to make a stripped guide like that for like $10. That would be a nice guide.
In my own opinion, the R/B and G/S guides had the highest quality. My R/B one was destroyed and my G/S one was lent to a cousin, but I clearly remember the G/S guide and it was definitely high quality. I remember they even had a page for the rare Pokémon/the ones you could only get once.
Discuss the official guide books here and compare them to the products of third party companies.
Edit: Added a few words that I forgot.
Edit2: Turns out, the D/P guide was $15 and the HG/SS one was $20.
Edit3: One last edit, a grievance I have with the new guides.
Here's a grievance I have with the new guides. They sell the main guide, and a "Pokédex" guide separately, which had the level up moves/TMs you could teach them and all of the locations of where to catch the Pokémon. This used to be included in the official guides. They had it in the guide for FR/LG and HG/SS, but only did the first two generations, not the third. The D/P guide didn't even give out the moves except for the starters. I don't think they even gave you the TMs you could teach them.
Tch, and here I was going on about how I needed the guide. Guess I'll stick with Serebii.
Anyway, the RBY and GSC guides were made by Versus Books. Versus Books did a lot of darn good guides, high quality stuff that you don't see in many official guides nowadays.
Did you check if it's a Prima Guide? If it is, they lack useful information all the time. They screwed up the Brawl Guide by not listing the trophies, and the grades for each character they gave are horrendous.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 16, 2010, 10:17:19 AM
They screwed up the Brawl Guide by not listing the trophies, and the grades for each character they gave are horrendous.
That sounds hilarious, I think I heard about the grades part. Anyone got a link to that?
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 16, 2010, 10:17:19 AM
Did you check if it's a Prima Guide? If it is, they lack useful information all the time. They screwed up the Brawl Guide by not listing the trophies, and the grades for each character they gave are horrendous.
The prima guide for original red/blue was pretty good, even though it may have been missing directions from time to time
Quote from: MacBeth on March 16, 2010, 01:53:24 PM
The prima guide for original red/blue was pretty good, even though it may have been missing directions from time to time
My point just got proved.
I miss the Nintendo Power guides.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 16, 2010, 02:24:16 PM
My point just got proved.
by missing directions i mean not saying "push rock a onto pressure plate a". In fact, if i remember correctly, it was very good about warnings and stuff. It probably mentioned that you can only get 1 master ball, and i remember it mentioning that after v. forest the next chance for a pikachu catch is powerplant
Woah, I thought you were making a guide or something, then you said it doesn't go to Kanto so I was like "WHAT?! HG/SS DOESN'T GO TO KANTO?! lier"
I'm an idiot.
Quote from: JrDude ♦ on March 16, 2010, 06:44:06 PM
Woah, I thought you were making a guide or something, then you said it doesn't go to Kanto so I was like "WHAT?! HG/SS DOESN'T GO TO KANTO?! lier"
I'm an idiot.
Don't worry. I misread threads all the time.
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on March 16, 2010, 08:55:50 AM
Tch, and here I was going on about how I needed the guide. Guess I'll stick with Serebii.
Anyway, the RBY and GSC guides were made by Versus Books. Versus Books did a lot of darn good guides, high quality stuff that you don't see in many official guides nowadays.
If you need it for the maps, I believe the maps are almost identical to the G/S maps.
Versus Books. No wonder that name looks familiar. They made a guide for Sonic Adventure 2: BATTLE combined with a Sonic Advance guide. It was one of the best guides I've ever received. Link to it on Amazon. (http://www.amazon.com/Advance-Adventure-Battle-Official-Perfect/dp/0970646860)
Quote from: Psych on March 16, 2010, 02:32:31 PM
I miss the Nintendo Power guides.
Ah. That's were what the official guides were called. I remember back when they had sections in the magazine itself. Those were high quality guides. I think I have one for Pikmin and another for Super Mario Sunshine somewhere. SHIT. Remember when they used to give you one for free for resubscribing to Nintendo Power for a year? I would hold off on asking my parents for guides just for that.
Yes I had a feeling it'd be bad, like the D/P guide was because of the size of it. The Platinum guide is huge and it's a very good guide. It has everything you'd ever need really.
There's always Serebii and Gamefaqs though.
It would be funny if HG/SS didn't go to Kanto; No one would have bought the game then~
Quote from: ãˆã£ã¡ãƒ¼ã›ã,"ã±ã,, on March 17, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
It would be funny if HG/SS didn't go to Kanto; No one would have bought the game then~
I would have, but I'd hope it would be $30 for all of that missing story.
Bumping, as the guide said in that basic intro part where they tell you the mechanics of the game and the like that you can get both birds in each version, just at different levels. The Pokedex thing says that you need to trade it over from D/P/Pt. You also need to trade over Suicune apparently, even though I just got the bell thing (I think?) to summon it after beating the Kimono Girls.
D'oh, I just told my mom to buy me the official guide, which I found to be okay. I'm lucky that I've had the official Pokédex guides for Diamond/Pearl and Platinum, so I'm not missing out on much. It would be great if they included all of the post-game stuff though. I just wanted it for the storyline mostly. Overall, it's a pretty good guide, but it's a bit overpriced.
Quote from: Lotos on March 31, 2010, 06:57:57 AM
Bumping, as the guide said in that basic intro part where they tell you the mechanics of the game and the like that you can get both birds in each version, just at different levels. The Pokedex thing says that you need to trade it over from D/P/Pt. You also need to trade over Suicune apparently, even though I just got the bell thing (I think?) to summon it after beating the Kimono Girls.
The guide doesn't go up to Kanto at all, but Suicune is captured while in Kanto (on Route 25). So they just say that it is unobtainable in the guide's covered parts of the game.
The bell thing is for ho-oh/lugia, not for Suicune.
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on April 01, 2010, 12:57:22 AM
It would be great if they included all of the post-game stuff though. I just wanted it for the storyline mostly. Overall, it's a pretty good guide, but it's a bit overpriced.
What they failed to include isn't post-game stuff; it's the entire second half of the main storyline.
More than a bit overpriced. This normal-sized guide, which is also missing the full-size poster that many other guides have, costs about as much as the text book I got for Platinum.
Quote from: bluaki on April 01, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
The guide doesn't go up to Kanto at all, but Suicune is captured while in Kanto (on Route 25). So they just say that it is unobtainable in the guide's covered parts of the game.
I don't understand why they couldn't just give you the Wing without the need for a bell.
Quote from: bluaki on April 01, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
What they failed to include isn't post-game stuff; it's the entire second half of the main storyline.
More than a bit overpriced. This normal-sized guide, which is also missing the full-size poster that many other guides have, costs about as much as the text book I got for Platinum.
The other guides had "mini-posters" as they were advertised. Anyway, if the credits roll after you beat the Champion in Johto, I think that would be considered beating the main storyline. Just so you know, I never owned
Gold,
Silver,
Crystal, so I don't what the most basic form of beating the game is. To me, it's always been when the credits roll after you beat the Champion. Everything after that is post-game stuff.
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on April 03, 2010, 01:04:36 AM
The other guides had "mini-posters" as they were advertised. Anyway, if the credits roll after you beat the Champion in Johto, I think that would be considered beating the main storyline. Just so you know, I never owned Gold, Silver, Crystal, so I don't what the most basic form of beating the game is. To me, it's always been when the credits roll after you beat the Champion. Everything after that is post-game stuff.
They still had this stuff in the Versus guides.
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on April 03, 2010, 01:04:36 AM
The other guides had "mini-posters" as they were advertised. Anyway, if the credits roll after you beat the Champion in Johto, I think that would be considered beating the main storyline. Just so you know, I never owned Gold, Silver, Crystal, so I don't what the most basic form of beating the game is. To me, it's always been when the credits roll after you beat the Champion. Everything after that is post-game stuff.
Those credits are half-way-through-the-game credits. Another set of credits rolls after you beat the real big bad
Quote from: Lotos on April 03, 2010, 08:06:10 AM
They still had this stuff in the Versus guides.
What are those?
Quote from: So_So_Man on April 03, 2010, 10:34:57 AM
Those credits are half-way-through-the-game credits. Another set of credits rolls after you beat the real big bad
Eh, to each his own.
I'm using my old Gold/Silver guide from when I was a kid. Shit is pretty cool.
My G/S/C guide is by far my favorite out of all of the guides...everything is neat, easy to find, and relayed accurately
Quote from: Ninjamonkeee on April 21, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
My G/S/C guide is by far my favorite out of all of the guides...everything is neat, easy to find, and relayed accurately
The Crystal one was spectacular. I loved the over world map they included in it.
Quote from: Warriors of Light on March 16, 2010, 10:17:19 AM
Did you check if it's a Prima Guide? If it is, they lack useful information all the time. They screwed up the Brawl Guide by not listing the trophies, and the grades for each character they gave are horrendous.
I had one for Zelda:TP. It has paragraphs upon paragraphs on what the environment looks like while saying nothing about what to do.
IIRC, I had one for Mass Efffect as well. brb checkan
The original HGSS guide now has a second part. It holds everything the first guide lacked; considering the first guide had nothing worthwhile other than Johto maps, this one has essentially everything.
Not only does it have full pokedex with TMs/tutor moves, but it describes completely tons of game mechanics down to even EVs (although with no numerical data or math formulas) and the more advanced battle strategies. Has stuff like battle frontier too.
Also it has a big poster with pictures of all 493 pokemon.
How much more does it cost, Blu?
Quote from: Jeff Probst on April 28, 2010, 02:44:08 PM
How much more does it cost, Blu?
Though it seems to be twice as thick as the first quite useless book, it's the same price. $20
I believe the complete Platinum guide was $20 as well, though