Pokemon X and Y confirmed

[Zero]

Plusle, Minun - if you like Pikachu you have to like these guys.

No you don't.

[Custom]

it's 66

Note: I'm not talking about their abilities, their battle tier, their names, etc. I'm only writing of design.

Stunky gets the job done for a skunk. He is exactly how I would imagine a Skunk pokemon.

Drifloon is a balloon that drags away little kids. It's creepy. I always have a Drifblim in my party for the typing though

yeah that thing about drifloon is intercourse ing cool what's not cool about that? do you even like the horror films or the big spooky scares?

[Custom]

No you don't.

what about if you like pichu you have to like those dudes?

[Zero]

what about if you like pichu you have to like those dudes?

Nah. that's just an excuse.

If you like Pachurisu you HAVE to like Emolga, right? Fuck that man that is such a cop out.

[Custom]

also here are my full lists since you guys are doing it

gen 1:
[spoiler]1. BULBASAUR
2. IVYSAUR
3. VENUSAUR
4. CHARMANDER
5. CHARMELEON
6. CHARIZARD
7. SQUIRTLE
8. WARTORTLE
9. BLASTOISE
10. CARTERPIE
11. METAPOD
12. BUTTERFREE
13. WEEDLE
14. KAKUNA
15. BEEDRILL
16. PIDGEY
17. PIDGEOTTO
18. PIDGEOT
19. RATTATA
20. RATICATE
21. SPEAROW
22. FEAROW
23. EKANS
24. ARBOK
25. PIKACHU
26. RAICHU
27. SANDSHREW
28. SANDSLASH
29. NIDORINA
30. NIDORINO
31. NIDOKING
32. CLEFAIRY
33. CLEFABLE
34. VULPIX
35. NINETALES
36. JIGGLYPUF
37. WIGGLYTUFF
38. ZUBAT
39. ODDISH
40. VILEPLUME
41. PARAS
42. PARASECT
43. VENONAT
44. DIGLETT
45. DUGTRIO
46. MEOWTH
47. PSYDUCK
48. GOLDUCK
49. MANKEY
50. PRIMEAPE
51. GROWLITHE
52. ARCANINE
53. POLIWAG
54. POLIWHIRL
55. ABRA
56. ALAKAZAM
57. MACHOP
58. BELLSPROUT
59. TENTACRUEL
60. GEODUDE
61. GOLEM
62. PONYTA
63. RAPIDASH
64. SLOWPOKE
65. SLOWBRO
66. MAGNEMITE
67. MAGNETON
68. DODUO
69. DODRIO
70. SEEL
71. DEWGONG
72. GRIMER
73. MUK
74. SHELLDER
75. CLOYSTER
76. GASTLY
77. HAUNTER
78. GENGAR
79. ONIX
80. DROWZEE
81. KRABBY
82. KINGLER
83. VOLTORB
84. ELECTRODE
85. CUBONE
86. MAROWAK
87. HITMONLEE
88. HITMONCHAN
89. LICKITUNG
90. KOFFING
91. WEEZING
92. RHYHORN
93. RHYDON
94. CHANSEY
95. TANGELA
96. KANGASKHAN
97. HORSEA
98. SEAKING
99. SCYTHER
100. ELECTABUZZ
101. PINSIR
102. TAUROS
103. MAGIKARP
104. GYARADOS
105. LAPRAS
106. DITTO
107. EEVEE
108. VAPOREON
109. JOLTEON
110. FLAREON
111. PORYGON
112. OMANYTE
113. KABUTO
114. KABUTOPS
115. AERODACTYL
116. SNORLAX
117. ARTICUNO
118. ZAPDOS
119. MOLTRES
120. DRATINI
121. DRAGONAIR
122. DRAGONITE
123. MEWTWO
124. MEW

124/151
82.12%
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gen 2:
[spoiler]1. CHIKORITA
2. MEGANIUM
3. CYNDAQUIL
4. QUILAVA
5. TYPHLOSION
6. TOTODILE
7. FERALIGATR
8. SENTRET
9. FURRET
10. HOOTHOOT
11. NOCTOWL
12. LEDYBA
13. SPINARAK
14. CHINCHOU
15. PICHU
16. CLEFFA
17. IGGLYBUFF
18. TOGEPI
19. TOGETIC
20. XATU
21. AMPHAROS
22. BELLOSSOM
23. MARILL
24. AZUMARILL
25. SUDOWOODO
26. POLITOED
27. AIPOM
28. SUNKERN
29. SUNFLORA
30. YANMA
31. WOOPER
32. QUAGSIRE
33. ESPEON
34. UMBREON
35. MURKROW
36. SLOWKING
37. MISDREAVUS
38. UNOWN
39. WOBBUFFET
40. PINECO
41. FORRETRESS
42. DUNSPARCE
43. STEELIX
44. SCIZOR
45. SHUCKLE
46. HERACROSS
47. SNEASEL
48. TEDDIURSA
49. SWINUB
50. CORSOLA
51. DELIBIRD
52. MANTINE
53. SKARMORY
54. HOUNDOUR
55. HOUNDOOM
56. PHANPY
57. DONPHAN
58. SMEARGLE
59. HITMONTOP
60. ELEKID
61. BLISSEY
62. RAIKOU
63. ENTEI
64. SUICUNE
65. LARVITAR
66. PUPITAR
67. TYRANITAR
68. LUGIA
69. LUGIA
70. HO-OH
71. CELEBI

71/100
71%
[/spoiler]

gen 3:
[spoiler]1. TREECKO
2. GROVYLE
3. SCEPTILE
4. TORCHIC
5. BLAZIKEN
6. MUDKIP
7. MARSHTOMP
8. SWAMPERT
9. POOCHYENA
10. MIGHTYENA
11. ZIGZAGOON
12. LINOONE
13. WURMPLE
14. SILCOON
15. BEAUTIFLY
16. CASCOON
17. DUSTOX
18. LOTAD
19. LOMBRE
20. LUDICOLO
21. SEEDOT
22. NUZLEAF
23. SHIFTY
24. TAILLOW
25. SWELLOW
26. WINGULL
27. RALTS
28. KIRILA
29. GARDEVOUIR
30. SURSKIT
31. MASQUERAIN
32. SHROOMISH
33. BRELOOM
34. SLAKOTH
35. SLAKING
36. NINCADA
37. NINJASK
38. SHEDINJA
39. WHISMUR
40. MAKUHITA
41. HARIYAMA
42. AZURILL
43. SKITTY
44. DELCATTY
45. SABLEYE
46. MAWILE
47. ARON
48. LAIRON
49. AGGRON
50. MEDITITE
51. MEDICHAM
52. PLUSLE
53. MINUN
54. VOLBEAT
55. ROSELIA
56. GULPIN
57. SWALOT
58. CARVANHA
59. SHARPEDO
60. WAILMER
61. WAILORD
62. NUMEL
63. CAMERUPT
64. TRKOAL
65. SPOINK
66. SPINDA
67. TRAPINCH
68. VIBRAVA
69. FLYGON
70. CACNEA
71. SWABLU
72. ALTARIA
73. ZANGOOSE
74. SEVIPER
75. LUNATONE
76. SOLROCK
77. BARBOACH
78. WISCASH
79. CORPHISH
80. CRAWDAUNT
81. BALTOY
82. CLAYDOL
83. LILEEP
84. CRADILY
85. ANORITH
86. ARMALDO
87. FEEBAS
88. MILOTIC
89. CASTFORM
90. KECLEON
91. SHUPPET
92. BANETTE
93. DUSKULL
94. DUSCLOPS
95. TROPIUS
96. CHIMECHO
97. ABSOL
98. WHYNAUT
99. SNORUNT
100. GLALIE
101. SPHEAL
102. SEALEO
103. WALREIN
104. CLAMPERL
105. HUNTAIL
106. GOREBYSS
107. RELICANTH
108. LUVDISC
109. BRAGON
110. SHELGON
111. SALAMENCE
112. BELDUM
113. METANG
114. METAGROSS
115. REGIROCK
116. REGICE
117. REGISTEEL
118. LATIAS
119. LATIOS
120. KYOGRE
121. GROUDON
122. RAYQUAZA
123. JIRACHI

123/135
91.11%
[/spoiler]

gen 4:
[spoiler]
1. TURTWIG
2. GROTLE
3. TORTERRA
4. MONFERNO
5. INFERNAPE
6. PIPLUP
7. STARLY
8. STARAPTOR
9. KRICKETUNE
10. SHINX
11. LUXIO
12. LUXRAY
13. BUDEW
14. ROSERADE
15. CRANIDOS
16. RAMPARDOS
17. PACHIRISU
18. BUIZEL
19. CHERUBI
20. SHELLOS
21. GASTRODON
22. DRIFLOON
23. DRIFBLIM
24. MISMAGIUS
25. GLAMEOW
26. CHINGLING
27. BONSLY
28. MIME JR.
29. GARCHOMP
30. MUNCHLAX
31. HIPPOWDON
32. SKORUPI
33. CROAGUNK
34. CARNIVINE
35. FINNEON
36. LUMINEON
37. MANTYKE
38. SNOVER
39. ABOMASNOW
40. WEAVILE
41. RHYPERIOR
42. ELECTIVIRE
43. MAGMORTAR
44. TOGEKISS
45. YANMEGA
46. LEAFEON
47. GLACEON
48. GLISCOR
49. PORYGON-Z
50. GALLADE
51. DUSKNOIR
52. FROSLASS
53. UXIE
54. MESPRIT
55. AZELF
56. dialga
57. HEATRAN
58. REGIGIGAS
59. GIRATINA
60. PHIONE
61. DARKRAI

61/107
57.01%
[/spoiler]

gen 5:
[spoiler]1. SNIVY
2. EMBOAR
3. PURRLOIN
4. PANSAGE
5. PANSEAR
6. BLITZLE
7. ROGGENROLA
8. GIGALITH
9. DRILBUR
10. EXCADRILL
11. AUDINO
12. SEWADDLE
13. SWADLOON
14.LEAVANNY
15. VENIPEDE
16. WHIRLIPEDE
17. SCOLIPEDE
18. WHIMSICOTT
19. PETILIL
20. LILLIGANT
21. MARACTUS
22. DWEBBLE
23. SCRAGGY
24. SCRAFTY
25. SIGILYPH
26. COFAGRIGUS
27. CARRACOSTA
28. ARCHEN
29. MINCCINO
30. CINCCINO
31. EMOLGA
32. FOONGUS
33. JOLTIK
34. GALVANTULA
35. KLINK
36. KLANG
37. KLINKLANG
38. TYNAMO
39. ELGYEM
40. LITWICK
41. LAMPENT
42. CHANDELURE
43. AXEW
44. FRAXURE
45. HAXORUS
46. CRYOGONAL
47. MIENSHAO
48. GOLURK
49. BISHARP
50. HEATMOR
51. DEINO
52. HYDREIGON
53. ZEKROM
54. KYUREM
55. GENESECT
55/156
36.26%
[/spoiler]

[Custom]

Nah. that's just an excuse.

If you like Pachurisu you HAVE to like Emolga, right? Fuck that man that is such a cop out.

i like both those guys yeah
i think imight have missed pachurisu on my list

[The Riddler]

Gen 2:
Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium
Cyndaquil, Quilava
Totodile - my favorite Gen 2 Pokemon, period.
Sentret, Furret
Hoothoot, Noctowl
Ledyba
Spinarak, Ariados
Lanturn
Pichu
Cleffa
Togepi
Mareep, Flaaffy
Bellossom
Marill
Politoed
Aipom
Sunflora
Espeon, Umbreon
Murkrow
Misdreavus
Girafarig
Pineco
Gligar
Steelix
Snubbull
Scizor
Shuckle
Heracross
Teddiursa, Ursaring
Slugma, Magcargo
Octillery
Delibird
Mantine
Houndoor, Houndoom
Phanpy, Donphan
Stantler
Smeargle
Elekid
Miltank
Raikou, Entei, Suicune
Lugia, Ho-Oh
Celebi

57

[The Riddler]

I hate that Emolga isn't an evolution of Pachirisu. That Bouffalant isn't an evolution of Tauros, and that Alomomola isn't Luvdisc pt 2

[Custom]

I hate that Emolga isn't an evolution of Pachirisu. That Bouffalant isn't an evolution of Tauros, and that Alomomola isn't Luvdisc pt 2

please use spoiler tags and post percentages stop making the thread look too cluttered please

[The Riddler]

Gen 1:

Everything but:
Metapod
Magnemite, Magneton
Grimer, Muk

146.

[The Riddler]

Gen 1: 146
Gen 2: 57
Gen 3: 66
Gen 4: 31
Gen 5: 63

darn I have high standards

[Custom]

Gen 1: 146
Gen 2: 57
Gen 3: 66
Gen 4: 31
Gen 5: 63

why do you even still play these games

[The Riddler]

idk I don't HATE the other designs. my list are just the best designs, i guess.
there are some i really do hate though

Gen 1: 146 = 96. 7%
Gen 2: 57 = 57%
Gen 3: 66 = 48.9%
Gen 4: 31 = 29%
Gen 5: 63 = 40.4%

darn I have high standards

[Sirwaddy]

my god these lists

[Kayo]

Zero I hate the way you deal with quotes.

Was R/S/E your first Pokemon games or something? Comparing Rattata to Slowpoke? Really? Dude, that's where you lost your mojo. Slowpoke is hella unique. Rattata, not so much. Mentioning Relicanth? Dude, its a intercourse ing FISH. We have a million of those. It isn't much more unique than other fish Pokemon. Masquerain and Cradily are awesome(though Masquerain loses its previous form's water typing and becomes a poopty bug/flying type, so that hurts it), but Zigzagoon and Linoone? Let's be real here, Zig and Lin are basically Sentret and Furret V2. First form is a raccoon, second form is a weasel thing. Gen II already did that. Check and mate bro. As for Sharpedo, Sharpedo just looks ridiculous. It's literally just a shark head. I get that its supposed to be like the head of a submarine's torpedo, but come on. Again, I GET gen III, but that doesn't mean that the double battle crap didn't hurt the pokemon list overall. There is just no defending Plusle/Minun or Volbeat/Illuminise. Even baby Pokemon are a better idea than that.

I can say with definite confidence that if Slowpoke was released in Gen V with its name and design, people would hate it. Relicanth is a bit more than a fish, it's a intercourse ing living fossil, a deep-sea fish that hasn't changed a bit in millions of years. Something that's been the same since prehistory (this happens so rarely in nature) and its link to opening the Regi tombs which were sealed thousands of years ago adds to the prehistoric qualities of it. I think it's a cool Pokemon. Look at Rattata, it's a freaking rat. At least with Zigzagoon they played the whole zigzagging theme, reflected in its name, behavior, appearance, and even its footprint. It was actually a comparatively unique twist on the generic Normal type that we only saw in Gen III and V (though I personally hate Patrat and Watchog).

And dude, just because you don't like me pointing out the lack of elec types in your precious Gen III, that doesn't make the argument 'not work'. You can't name many Elec types at all, and that was my point. I make the same argument against Gen IV with its lack of fire types. The same poop applies, only, at least you can name Infernape and Heatran. So Gen III is a little bit off balance on the same issue.

Then say that Gen III needed more electric types instead of complaining that the ones it had were bad. That's the more important argument, I'd think. Because if they had released say, another 5, they might have been better than Plusle and Minun.

Okay first of all, how does the lack of electric types in Hoenn make perfect sense because Pikachu happens to be in the safari zone, Elektrike happens to be between Slateport and Mauville, and Chinchou is in the water zones? Do you realize how unbelievably and desperately convenient that sounds? Not just convenient, it really just doesn't make sense. Think about it. Your argument is basically "The lack of elec types makes sense because of the lack of elec types and the existing elec types specific placements happen to be right where they should be, near a electric based town, in the throwback safari zone, and hurr hurr chinchou is water/elec so its in the water, which is everywhere in hoenn". That's a really weak defense dude. I love gen IV to death, but there is just no defending its lack of Fire types. The same goes for Gen III and its lack of elec types..

Uh, no. The reason Gen IV had little to no fire types was because it was in a geographically colder, more northern region. That's why the top half of the intercourse ing continent was covered with snow at all times, and in Platinum the protagonists wear thick clothing with scarves and there's snow even on the ground in your hometown.

If you look at other games, Electric types are found in the wild across the region in comparatively unfitting places. Pikachu in Viridian forest, Shinx and Blitzle in the early routes of their respective games, stuff like that. In Gen III there's no distribution. The electric types in the game: Plusle, Minun, Electrike, Voltorb, and Magnemite are concentrated between those two towns and are found nowhere else on the entire continent. Only in Hoenn are all the new electric types confined solely to the industrial center of the region. Also, on Pikachu, this isn't the only time that Pikachu is thrown into a slightly obscure place for the sake of it being included in the games (being the mascot and all.) If you remember, in Gen IV, the only place to find one was in that rich guy's backyard. I'm pretty sure their intention is to make it available, but not as a wild Pokemon you'll ever encounter through normal gameplay if you're not doing any side things at all. I excluded Chinchou from the count because it's not a land-dwelling Pokemon, so it wouldn't make logical sense for it to be in New Mauville or something. Here's what I don't get though. What I'm saying is agreeing with you, that there were basically no electric types in Hoenn, yet you're getting all defensive. I really don't know what you're trying to argue.

tl;dr Hoenn lacked Electric types in the same exact god darned intercourse ing way that Sinnoh lacked Fire types.

EDIT: Zero honestly don't even bother replying to this I mean it'll get lost under two pages of unrelated stuff and you and I both know we agree on this more or less so there's no actual point.