New clones wanted?

[JrDude]

Like Ganondorf isn't a Captain Falcon clone because Captain Falcon has fire and Ganondorf has purple magic?  Wolf=Fox clone.

As for Luigi, I don't consider his Down B to be cloned off of Mario because I look at the current game, not the old ones, and in the current game Mario doesn't have a spinning attack as a special.

No, you're completely missing the point. Wolf =/= Ganondorf, Ganondorf is almost 100% clone, even his A moves are the same as CF. Plus, besides Strength, Ganondorf's attacks have the exact same effect as CF's (except the Side B now). You cannot compare Wolf's cloneness with Ganondorf's.

[Captain Justice]

Wolf has 4 out of 4 specials in common with Fox, plus a Final Smash.

wow your a moron. Wolf's B isn't a thing like Fox's. Wolf's is much slower, the beam is larger, and the blaster hurts people when it directly touches them. If Wolf's blaster is a copy of Fox's blaster then I guess all projectile attacks are cloned moves.

Wolf's side b goes at a diagonal angle and has a hitbox on the very end of the attack that does damage and has high knock-back (it may even be a spike I forgot). idk if your too stupid to realize but Fox's doesn't do this.

Wolf's Up B doesn't even look a thing like Fox's, it just acts similarly. Holy poop guess what? DK whirls around in a circle in his Up B move and slowly gains vertical distance......and so does Link!! Well darn, another clone right there that we didn't even know about!

tl;dr your a moron.

[JrDude]

wow your a moron. Wolf's B isn't a thing like Fox's. Wolf's is much slower, the beam is larger, and the blaster hurts people when it directly touches them. If Wolf's blaster is a copy of Fox's blaster then I guess all projectile attacks are cloned moves.

Well you're talking about the attack effect now, these people consider clones things that look the same. If you mean effects, then no one would be clones, but that's obviously not the case now is it?

[Captain Justice]

Fox and Wolf's blaster look nothing alike

[JrDude]

Fox and Wolf's blaster look nothing alike

They are both laser blasters that shoot lasers.
I didn't mean the weapon looks the same, I meant what they're doing looks the same (Like shooting a laser from a gun :O)

[FruitFlow]

I just realised that Kirby and Metaknight both have the same Up and Down throw.
And no I'm not saying that makes them clones.
It's just something that came to mind and I thought I'd point out.

Ganondorf obviously still remains a cloned version of C. Falcon, no matter how you look it.

Specials
Falcon Punch = Warlock Punch
Falcon Kick = Warlock Kick
Falcon Dive = Dark Dive (Even though Ganondorf's can damage without grabbing, it's still the same thing)
However, Raptor Boost =/= Flame Choak.

Both of their A buttons, grabs and Smash Attacks are exactly the same, excluding the following:

Their tilts, their Up Smash, the Neutral A and the FS.


Now, about the clone I would want, I'm fairly certain everyone knows who.

[Captain Justice]

ZSS shoots lasers from a gun.

what a clone

[Nayrman]

ZSS shoots lasers from a gun.

what a clone

again, according to you there is no such things as clones in any game whatsoever.
**would love to see you try and defend Luigi not being a Mario clone in New Super Mario Bros. DS**

[DededeCloneChris]

again, according to you there is no such things as clones in any game whatsoever.
**would love to see you try and defend Luigi not being a Mario clone in New Super Mario Bros. DS**

Echo never said something like that.

And weren't we talking about Brawl here?

[Nayrman]

Echo never said something like that.

And weren't we talking about Brawl here?

I'm making the point that even if it's pretty much the exact same move, as long as they "play differently" it won't matter to Echo, and would require something along Mario/Luigi in New Mario Bros. to make him say something is a clone....

[Captain Justice]

again, according to you there is no such things as clones in any game whatsoever.
**would love to see you try and defend Luigi not being a Mario clone in New Super Mario Bros. DS**

dont have a DS, so I've never played NSMB.....sadly it looks good

[Nayrman]

dont have a DS, so I've never played NSMB.....sadly it looks good

It's basically Mario World with the Wall jump which makes it painfully easy at points.
But yes it's a good game.

[JrDude]

I didn't invent the term for SSB Clones, you make good points, but those characters are clones.