If Lucario is in then will Mewtwo get in as well?
I think so, but many people disagree.
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:50:50 AM
If Lucario is in then will Mewtwo get in as well?
I think so, but many people disagree.
If I have to settle for anything, Mewtwo and no Lucario. He's the original ultimate pokemon. If both of them get in, I'm still happy. If only Lucariro, I'm mad.
Most definately. Though a battle between the two will rip a hole through the entire earth and end the space time continuom.
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
i hope he has a new moveset but since he wasnt a clone then i cant see them changing him around that much
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
i hope he has a new moveset but since he wasnt a clone then i cant see them changing him around that much
Maybe they would just make him better.
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 09:10:43 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
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Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
i hope he has a new moveset but since he wasnt a clone then i cant see them changing him around that much
Maybe they would just make him better.
ok well i know i just said all that about anime but he was so cool in the movie
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 09:10:43 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
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Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
i hope he has a new moveset but since he wasnt a clone then i cant see them changing him around that much
Maybe they would just make him better.
ok well i know i just said all that about anime but he was so cool in the movie
Yes he was.
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:18:48 AM
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Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
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Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Quote from: RedSox on January 21, 2008, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo would win.
well maybe in the pokemon games, but i think lucario would be better than mewtwo.
mewtwo wasnt all that good in ssbm
I get your point, but who said he would have the same moveset?
i hope he has a new moveset but since he wasnt a clone then i cant see them changing him around that much
Maybe they would just make him better.
ok well i know i just said all that about anime but he was so cool in the movie
Yes he was.
if they made him like he was in the movie then hes set
Mewtwo was designed from his anime counterpart moreso than the other Pokemon, so it wouldn't surprise me. Also, if the game is supposedly more balanced overall, he may get buffed.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 09:52:52 AM
Mewtwo was designed from his anime counterpart moreso than the other Pokemon, so it wouldn't surprise me. Also, if the game is supposedly more balanced overall, he may get buffed.
i hope so
he was just too weak in ssbm
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Lucario would have better control than Mewtwo would. I can't play at all with Mewtwo. :robotindifferent:
I hope so. Mewtwo deserves it more.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:26:11 AM
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:34:38 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
:( Mewtwo was probably the one non-clone leaving that Serebii was talking about. Its not like G&W or Falcon are leaving. And yes, anything Serebii says is the truth.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 21, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 21, 2008, 10:10:12 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
:( Mewtwo was probably the one non-clone leaving that Serebii was talking about. Its not like G&W or Falcon are leaving. And yes, anything Serebii says is the truth.
???? Well, we will find out, at least I wil, in 10 days, so no need worrying about it.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
:( Mewtwo was probably the one non-clone leaving that Serebii was talking about. Its not like G&W or Falcon are leaving. And yes, anything Serebii says is the truth.
???? Well, we will find out, at least I wil, in 10 days, so no need worrying about it.
Yeah, I guess you wern't supposed to understand that...
But Mewtwo won't be back :(
I hope he's in though :)
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
:( Mewtwo was probably the one non-clone leaving that Serebii was talking about. Its not like G&W or Falcon are leaving. And yes, anything Serebii says is the truth.
???? Well, we will find out, at least I wil, in 10 days, so no need worrying about it.
Yeah, I guess you wern't supposed to understand that...
But Mewtwo won't be back :(
I hope he's in though :)
And what is Serebii's proof?
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 21, 2008, 10:02:22 AM
Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I thought Pichu was the emo pokemon!
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Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
I 100% agree with the bold text. If only people would think that way and not give random numbers. I believe Mewtwo's in Brawl and I couldn't imagine him not being in.
:( Mewtwo was probably the one non-clone leaving that Serebii was talking about. Its not like G&W or Falcon are leaving. And yes, anything Serebii says is the truth.
???? Well, we will find out, at least I wil, in 10 days, so no need worrying about it.
Yeah, I guess you wern't supposed to understand that...
But Mewtwo won't be back :(
I hope he's in though :)
And what is Serebii's proof?
He doesn't have any xD
But he hasn't been wrong yet. Its not like it matters, like you said, the game comes out in a week.
Mewtwo's contributed a whole lot more to the series than Lucario, so he should be in.
Lets compare:
Mewtwo:
In the games:
Being the FIRST and ORIGINAL ultimate Pokemon
The backstory revealed in the Pokemon Mansion on Cinnabar Island
Being the first Lv. 70 Pokemon you get after the Elite Four
First legendary Pokemon to make use of the Psychic type
The fact that it most likely took a Master Ball to capture it
A genetic connection to Mew, a fellow legendary Pokemon
A triumphant return in the FireRed and Leafgreen games
In the anime:
He's appeared under Giovanni's control, but later seen breaking out of their HQ.
He's been in two of the movies.
In the first movie, his connection to both Mew and Giovanni is explained in more depth.
Telepathic communication
A role that would make him the first "evil" Pokemon of it's own will.
Now Lucario:
In the games:
He appeared on a Gym Leaders team and the Champions team
Hatched from an egg and evolved through friendship, so it's more common than one would assume.
First Steel-Fighting type
In the anime:
One movie, and the movie focused more on Mew than Lucario
Unless I'm not up to date, his only appearance on the TV show is a half-second in the intro credits. He'll likely be seen when Ash & co. head to the third Gym.
Mewtwo wins in both quality AND quantity.
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 21, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
Mewtwo's contributed a whole lot more to the series than Lucario, so he should be in.
Lets compare:
Mewtwo:
In the games:
Being the FIRST and ORIGINAL ultimate Pokemon
The backstory revealed in the Pokemon Mansion on Cinnabar Island
Being the first Lv. 70 Pokemon you get after the Elite Four
First legendary Pokemon to make use of the Psychic type
The fact that it most likely took a Master Ball to capture it
A genetic connection to Mew, a fellow legendary Pokemon
A triumphant return in the FireRed and Leafgreen games
In the anime:
He's appeared under Giovanni's control, but later seen breaking out of their HQ.
He's been in two of the movies.
In the first movie, his connection to both Mew and Giovanni is explained in more depth.
Telepathic communication
A role that would make him the first "evil" Pokemon of it's own will.
Now Lucario:
In the games:
He appeared on a Gym Leaders team and the Champions team
Hatched from an egg and evolved through friendship, so it's more common than one would assume.
First Steel-Fighting type
In the anime:
One movie, and the movie focused more on Mew than Lucario
Unless I'm not up to date, his only appearance on the TV show is a half-second in the intro credits. He'll likely be seen when Ash & co. head to the third Gym.
Mewtwo wins in both quality AND quantity.
Yeah, Mewtwo is much more important.
But to be fair, Lucario Rank is the ultimate rank in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon >_>
I liked Mewtwo because he almost killed Ash, but then Pikachu had to go and ruin it.
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 21, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
Mewtwo's contributed a whole lot more to the series than Lucario, so he should be in.
Lets compare:
Mewtwo:
In the games:
Being the FIRST and ORIGINAL ultimate Pokemon
The backstory revealed in the Pokemon Mansion on Cinnabar Island
Being the first Lv. 70 Pokemon you get after the Elite Four
First legendary Pokemon to make use of the Psychic type
The fact that it most likely took a Master Ball to capture it
A genetic connection to Mew, a fellow legendary Pokemon
A triumphant return in the FireRed and Leafgreen games
In the anime:
He's appeared under Giovanni's control, but later seen breaking out of their HQ.
He's been in two of the movies.
In the first movie, his connection to both Mew and Giovanni is explained in more depth.
Telepathic communication
A role that would make him the first "evil" Pokemon of it's own will.
Now Lucario:
In the games:
He appeared on a Gym Leaders team and the Champions team
Hatched from an egg and evolved through friendship, so it's more common than one would assume.
First Steel-Fighting type
In the anime:
One movie, and the movie focused more on Mew than Lucario
Unless I'm not up to date, his only appearance on the TV show is a half-second in the intro credits. He'll likely be seen when Ash & co. head to the third Gym.
Mewtwo wins in both quality AND quantity.
I agree, but since when does quality determine a character? ::) (Saki Amiyama should have been in, dangit!)
Seriously though, Lucario is insanely popular in America, and will probably included just to cater to us... the only question is whether Sakurai thinks there are too many Pokemon represenatives.
Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
the battle between them would be awesome
mewtwo is like the ulitmate pokemon but lucario just looks like a mch better fighter
Mewtwo makes your mind asplode
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Mewtwo's contributed a whole lot more to the series than Lucario, so he should be in.
Lets compare:
Mewtwo:
In the games:
Being the FIRST and ORIGINAL ultimate Pokemon
I liked Mewtwo because he almost killed Ash, but then Pikachu had to go and ruin it.
Technically, wouldn't Mew be the original ultimate Pokemon?
Mewtwo would be fine, but, his attacks in Melee were horrible. Using a giant Mewtwo was fine.
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Quote from: Apollo on January 21, 2008, 08:50:50 AM
If Lucario is in then will Mewtwo get in as well?
I think so, but many people disagree.
If I have to settle for anything, Mewtwo and no Lucario. He's the original ultimate pokemon. If both of them get in, I'm still happy. If only Lucariro, I'm mad.
true true dat is however lucario may have obly gotten in due to popular demand
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Why would Lucario replace Mewtwo? Lucario isn't the same type as he is and their movesets would be completely different.
People seem to think that fighting dog would be a total clone of the flying cat. You know, the same argument used against the robot who could being a clone of the chick in the armor.
This arguement is almost as stupid as the debate over Shiek's gender.
There really was no argument there, just wishful thinking. :P
It was an argument. That's a fact. But anyway do you think Mewtwo's chances are good? Will we see him in the roster?
Well, I don't think characters really have chances, since there are no statsitics to be analyzed, and Sakurai is quite random in who gets in or not. If I were to give a number, it would be about 85%... I want to see him in, and being the only penultimate Pokemon that is actually feasible to use, I think he will appear. He has also been given the role as the emo Pokemon, and to you Americans, emo = evil, so he's another villain. :P However the roster, at the moment, is saturated with first generation reps, and if one Pokemon is cut for Lucario to appear, then it's going to be Mewtwo.I doubt it will happen, but the possiblity is there.
well i think Luigi's CHANCES are better than Geno
thats what i mean
At least they could last a very long while in a stare contest.
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 21, 2008, 05:09:15 PM
At least they could last a very long while in a stare contest.
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ok well that confused me
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