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Title: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Lotos on November 21, 2010, 08:14:56 PM


They also have some cool commercials on TV.  Go buy the game.  The Target near me gave me a $10 gift card when I purchased it.  Amazon had it at $44.44 last I checked.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Nayrman on November 21, 2010, 08:43:13 PM
Got it, beat worlds 1 and 2 (and got both secret levels to get the orbs), and so far:

- it controls way too slippery. DK's air momentum is awkward and his run/jump feel too loose and almost uncontrollable in certain situations.
- This game feels designed more for Diddy than DK
- Level designs are good though
- Music is nice
- Although so far all I want to do is play the old SNES games. Why oh why isn't there classic or Cube controller support?
- Way way WAAAAAYYYYY too much waggling for a 2D platformer. Nintendo/Retro, stop shoe-horning this stuff into our games.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Doodle on November 22, 2010, 05:21:56 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on November 21, 2010, 08:43:13 PM
- Way way WAAAAAYYYYY too much waggling for a 2D platformer. Nintendo/Retro, stop shoe-horning this stuff into our games.
Is the waggling like NSMBWii? I had no problem at all with shaking in that game.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Neerb on November 22, 2010, 07:17:34 PM
Plus, DK had shaking galore in Jungle Beat, and that was a pretty good platformer.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Kayo on November 22, 2010, 07:38:52 PM
No Classic Controller? Aww... :(

But i must get this. And I'm not spoiling it for myself. So I'm not watching videos of gameplay or anything. IWANTITIWANTITIWANTIT
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Nayrman on November 22, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Doodle on November 22, 2010, 05:21:56 PM
Is the waggling like NSMBWii? I had no problem at all with shaking in that game.

More like you have to shake for nearly everything, including the intercourse ing roll attack. I ask you, what was so wrong with B? WHAT WAS SO WRONG WITH B!?!?!? And you need to use it in tense moments, and I simply don't trust the Wiimote to be accurate enough to handle that.

Updated impressions:
- Ok, it really is that hard. Some of it fake difficulty (DK's bad physics *he controls like Luigi, slippery as intercourse *, no checkpoints in some levels, etc.) but a lot of it is real difficulty too. So, even I guess. Although I'm still annoyed at the weird physics in this. It's like Sonic 4. It's not...bad it's just...odd... and annoying in certain areas.
- Fuck the Rocket Barrel levels. What was so wrong with just up and down? Gradius got this right in the mid 1980's!
- Music is VERY nice.
- Bosses that are actually difficult? Finally.
- Still too much waggling. C'mon guys, at least SUPPORT the classic controller!
- Still prefer the SNES games more X_X
- World 4-K.... just WOW. *slams head against desk*
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Nayrman on November 23, 2010, 05:59:55 PM
Well, just finished every level in the game *including a certain somewhat trippy final final level*

While this is a solid game in it's own right, I don't think it's worthy of the Donkey Kong Country name. The control is just too loose/slippery. It's like they thought that DK should control like a big dumb gorilla since he is one. While a lot of the level design is great, there are some clunkers in there. This game as a weird blend of challenge. About half of it is legit, the other half is a lot of the fake difficulty from said older games.

To be honest, all 3 SNES games are better than this, but if you want something solid to play, this is pretty good.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Gwen Khan on November 23, 2010, 06:38:01 PM
you already beat it? it's only been out since Sunday
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Nayrman on November 23, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Gwen Khan on November 23, 2010, 06:38:01 PM
you already beat it? it's only been out since Sunday

Hey, I 100% Sonic Colors the day after it came out, this took TWO days! :P

It's more like I've played Donkey Kong Country to death since it was released in 1994... I just know how it works. It's why I can beat games like Sonic and Mario so darn fast.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: DededeCloneChris on November 23, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on November 23, 2010, 06:50:18 PM
Hey, I 100% Sonic Colors the day after it came out, this took TWO days! :P

It's more like I've played Donkey Kong Country to death since it was released in 1994... I just know how it works. It's why I can beat games like Sonic and Mario so darn fast.
Translation: He kept playing nonstop because he's got other stuff to do to get busy later.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Nayrman on November 23, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on November 23, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
Translation: He kept playing nonstop because he's got other stuff to do to get busy later.

*is a full time student at Georgia Tech and has a job*

Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh...
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Magnum on November 23, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
Well it's not like Nintendo games are all that long anyways. It'd be pretty easy to beat in 1-2 days if you go for the goal.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Doodle on November 24, 2010, 10:48:23 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?9jvhs3p7wl6zys9
Apparently, for those with homebrew and care enough about waggling, this a "fix" to map the functions that require waggling to B. :U
Hold B = pound
Hold Down and B = Blow
Hold forward and B = Roll
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on November 25, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
I tried playing with just the Wiimote AND with the Nunchuck, and it bothers me to death the waggling you have to do with the nunchuck, but not as much when only the Wiimote.

I'm not an ultra nerd who plays all day, so I only got through a lot of World 1, and it's pretty fun. One puzzle piece (Star coins of this game, as are the letters K O N G) was in a spot where you had to be lucky/in a rush to find it, or just get annoyed enough to commit suicide in the level, to find "oshi, shooting to NOTHING leads to hidden barrel?" seriously, this one had 0 sign of anything down there, not a banana, not ANYTHING. In a later level (or is it the same level? I don't remember) there's one that's hidden that has a small hint, the bottom of a banana, but seriously, without a hint or luck, how could you find that puzzle piece?
If you don't want spoilers, I think that's a spoiler you wanted (if you're trying to 100% at least).

I'm probably not gonna be playing it much yet, not until I 100% Sonic Colors (I got it before Nayr did and still didn't do this yet).
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Magnum on November 26, 2010, 01:23:09 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on November 25, 2010, 11:57:48 PM
I tried playing with just the Wiimote AND with the Nunchuck, and it bothers me to death the waggling you have to do with the nunchuck, but not as much when only the Wiimote.

I'm not an ultra nerd who plays all day, so I only got through a lot of World 1, and it's pretty fun. One puzzle piece (Star coins of this game, as are the letters K O N G) was in a spot where you had to be lucky/in a rush to find it, or just get annoyed enough to commit suicide in the level, to find "oshi, shooting to NOTHING leads to hidden barrel?" seriously, this one had 0 sign of anything down there, not a banana, not ANYTHING. In a later level (or is it the same level? I don't remember) there's one that's hidden that has a small hint, the bottom of a banana, but seriously, without a hint or luck, how could you find that puzzle piece?
If you don't want spoilers, I think that's a spoiler you wanted (if you're trying to 100% at least).

I'm probably not gonna be playing it much yet, not until I 100% Sonic Colors (I got it before Nayr did and still didn't do this yet).
Once again. Nintendo game. Not that hard. Short. Only around 10 hours. Not even a day to beat it in its entirety.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on November 26, 2010, 03:07:19 AM
If I didn't stop to look at a lot of stuff, I could probably beat it quickly, also, I'm not as good at video games as I feel I am, though I am a video game nerd, I don't have the skills of one.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Gwen Khan on November 26, 2010, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Magnum on November 26, 2010, 01:23:09 AM
Once again. Nintendo game. Not that hard. Short. Only around 10 hours. Not even a day to beat it in its entirety.

even so it's pathetic if you play ten+ hours straight
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Doodle on November 26, 2010, 08:15:38 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on November 25, 2010, 11:57:48 PMOne puzzle piece (Star coins of this game, as are the letters K O N G) was in a spot where you had to be lucky/in a rush to find it, or just get annoyed enough to commit suicide in the level, to find "oshi, shooting to NOTHING leads to hidden barrel?" seriously, this one had 0 sign of anything down there, not a banana, not ANYTHING.
DKC did the same thing at times.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on November 26, 2010, 06:37:00 PM
Quote from: Doodle on November 26, 2010, 08:15:38 AM
DKC did the same thing at times.
I never got into that game. Well, I did as a kid, but that was when I didn't actually know about some of the hidden things and also didn't care about them (partially because I didn't know they did anything special), and I bought 1 for the VC but I couldn't get into it. I just can't get into old looking games, except Paper Mario & Mega Man X games.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Doodle on December 29, 2010, 02:14:01 PM
Got it for Christmas and beat it last night after playing it off and on for a few days. Right now I'm going back through and getting all of the KONG letters for the [spoiler]Golden Temple[/spoiler], then I'll probably get to the puzzle pieces eventually. :U

This is probably my favorite Donkey Kong game. Level design is really fun, art style is nice, and the soundtrack is awesome.
My only complaint would be the waggling for some actions. I didn't have too many problems with it, but I can see how some people could. Though you can just map those to buttons with some codes.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Kayo on December 29, 2010, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Doodle on December 29, 2010, 02:14:01 PM
Got it for Christmas and beat it last night after playing it off and on for a few days. Right now I'm going back through and getting all of the KONG letters for the [spoiler]Golden Temple[/spoiler], then I'll probably get to the puzzle pieces eventually. :U

This is probably my favorite Donkey Kong game. Level design is really fun, art style is nice, and the soundtrack is awesome.
My only complaint would be the waggling for some actions. I didn't have too many problems with it, but I can see how some people could. Though you can just map those to buttons with some codes.
I don't like how you have to do the shaky thing just to do a roll. All the other controls I'm fine with.

I try to get the KONG letters on my first play through a level, and then I go back for the puzzle pieces. Sometimes. I still should go back the the early levels and get the few I missed.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Cornwad on December 30, 2010, 10:36:43 AM
Yeah the rolling controls are really awful, but it's a ton of fun otherwise. My favorite levels are the mine cart and rocket barrel ones.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Kayo on December 30, 2010, 06:21:04 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on December 30, 2010, 10:36:43 AM
Yeah the rolling controls are really awful, but it's a ton of fun otherwise. My favorite levels are the mine cart and rocket barrel ones.
IMO, each mine cart level was more epic than the last one. I like the music and how it fits in with the sound effects on those stages. Except I don't like the rocket barrel ones, especially the one I just did. (One of the last levels in World 4- the cave world. Yes I know i'm not very far ._.)
That one was annoying for me, especially trying to get all the KONG letters and Puzzle Pieces. But I missed a puzzle piece so now I have to play it again. :|
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on December 30, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
I get all the puzzle pieces in the first run through, same with the letters. Every now and then I'll miss a puzzle piece, but I usually find it my second time looking.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Cornwad on December 31, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Kayo on December 30, 2010, 06:21:04 PM
IMO, each mine cart level was more epic than the last one. I like the music and how it fits in with the sound effects on those stages. Except I don't like the rocket barrel ones, especially the one I just did. (One of the last levels in World 4- the cave world. Yes I know i'm not very far ._.)
That one was annoying for me, especially trying to get all the KONG letters and Puzzle Pieces. But I missed a puzzle piece so now I have to play it again. :|
Really? That was one of my favorites. I like how all of the bats just explode after you when you wake them up.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Kayo on December 31, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on December 30, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
I get all the puzzle pieces in the first run through, same with the letters. Every now and then I'll miss a puzzle piece, but I usually find it my second time looking.
My problem is I don't look hard enough. I probably should spend more time searching every corner for the hidden puzzle pieces, but that's not so easy in the faster-moving Rocket barrel levels. Oh, and those "get all the bananas in this sequence and get a puzzle piece" are annoying.

Thankfully you don't have to keep getting the puzzle pieces when you die like you do with the KONG letters.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on January 01, 2011, 03:38:48 AM
Quote from: Kayo on December 31, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
My problem is I don't look hard enough. I probably should spend more time searching every corner for the hidden puzzle pieces, but that's not so easy in the faster-moving Rocket barrel levels. Oh, and those "get all the bananas in this sequence and get a puzzle piece" are annoying.

Thankfully you don't have to keep getting the puzzle pieces when you die like you do with the KONG letters.
Only 1 was hard for me, the suicidal puzzle piece that had no hint at all that it was there, the rest I didn't have to search very hard for. Most fake walls are obviously fake or overly easy to get to.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: SkyMyl on January 01, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
Fun game. Don't care how it compares to the originals, it's fun.

[spoiler]200% completion? Son of a ninny this is difficult.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Kayo on January 01, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: SkyMyl on January 01, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
Fun game. Don't care how it compares to the originals, it's fun.

[spoiler]200% completion? Son of a ninny this is difficult.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Wait, 200%? Holy intercourse ing shat I need to devote more time to this. Goodbye, schoolwork for the next few months.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Doodle on January 03, 2011, 10:28:13 AM
Quote from: Cyan Garamonde on January 01, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
Fun game. Don't care how it compares to the originals, it's fun.

[spoiler]200% completion? Son of a ninny this is difficult.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]>200%
Oh dear, I have some work to do. I would have expected the 101%/102%/103% thing from the DKC games.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: FruitFlow on January 22, 2011, 01:23:28 AM
And this is why an achievements system would have been a great addition to the Wii.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: JrDude on January 22, 2011, 02:47:13 AM
Quote from: Captain Maple Syrup on January 22, 2011, 01:23:28 AM
And this is why an achievements system would have been a great addition to the Wii.
Achievements just make the non-existing lives of nerds less existent
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Shujinco2 on January 22, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 22, 2011, 02:47:13 AM
Achievements just make the non-existing lives of nerds less existent
Agreecd. Achievments are just a little something extra to do. Except for the fact that almost all achievments are either incredibly easy (lol beat the story for 50 points) or impossible (lol beat the story in 5 seconds with only a banana without getting hit for 50 points)

Achievements are intercourse ing pointless.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Custom on January 22, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
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Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: Zero on January 26, 2011, 01:21:08 PM
They can be pretty fun though, and having fun with a game is the entire point of the game. I'm always up for new ways to get more out of a game. I've played through a game more than once for an achievement initially only to catch things I missed story wise or hell my 3rd run of Ninja Gaiden II was even more fun than the first two(granted, I was going for the hardest difficulty achievement due to a drunken bet, but I won so who gives a poop).

Raging about achievements and calling them pointless just shows you don't really understand them. They're just simple goals to get and they're entirely optional. It's up to the individual to decide if they're "pointless" or not.

Anyway, I still haven't picked this game up and probably won't for a long while. Only money I have set aside for games right now is going to MvC3.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns is out today!
Post by: FruitFlow on January 28, 2011, 01:31:17 AM
Quote from: Zero on January 26, 2011, 01:21:08 PM
They can be pretty fun though, and having fun with a game is the entire point of the game. I'm always up for new ways to get more out of a game. I've played through a game more than once for an achievement initially only to catch things I missed story wise or hell my 3rd run of Ninja Gaiden II was even more fun than the first two(granted, I was going for the hardest difficulty achievement due to a drunken bet, but I won so who gives a poop).

Raging about achievements and calling them pointless just shows you don't really understand them. They're just simple goals to get and they're entirely optional. It's up to the individual to decide if they're "pointless" or not.

Anyway, I still haven't picked this game up and probably won't for a long while. Only money I have set aside for games right now is going to MvC3.
LOL. You took the words right out of my mouth.
As you stated, the Achievements are nothing more than an "optional" route.
None of the games are forcing you to clear each and every one of them. They're just the icing on the cake, giving you wider options during your playthrough.

The same could be said for the Smash series. You don't need to unlock all of the characters/stages or acquire all 200 (if not 300) trophies in the game in order to beat it. That's just additional content that was thrown in the game to give players a better reason to extend their game play duration.

Just as with any other game that has "unlockables".

[spoiler]I got 200% in DKCR, and was severely disappointed with the fact that I got nothing out of it, other than more artwork. (Oh, the repetitiveness)

I thought to myself: "Hey, maybe if I complete the game with 200% I'll unlock something awesome. Perhaps maybe a "Hero Mode" like in the GBA DKC port where you only play as Diddy Kong".
So 2 weeks later I succeed with it, but don't get jack from it. What a joke.
At least give me a "Congratulations" screen.

That's the only reason I even bothered to attempt it.
So getting 200% in this game is pretty much worthless.[/spoiler]

Other than that, the game was pretty good.