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Title: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 05:10:49 PM
I have a take-home test due tomorrow, and I need sum halp.

"Simplify the compound fraction. SHOW YOR WORK! (4 pts)

((1/x+1)+(1/2))/(3/2X^2+4X+2))
kthx ^_^
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: sleepin_dude_99 on December 06, 2007, 05:11:47 PM
8th grade :-x
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 05:14:34 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on December 06, 2007, 05:11:47 PM
8th grade :-x
YOU'RE NO HELP. :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: sleepin_dude_99 on December 06, 2007, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 05:14:34 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on December 06, 2007, 05:11:47 PM
8th grade :-x
YOU'RE NO HELP. :(
CAPS LOCK THURSDAY
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 05:30:44 PM
Seriously, help me.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: sleepin_dude_99 on December 06, 2007, 05:31:20 PM
Can't you just bump the topic without posting?

???
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on December 06, 2007, 05:34:48 PM
......

/me looks at the problem, then you, the problem, and you again, confused.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Mystic on December 06, 2007, 05:45:47 PM
Start with the numbers.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 05:51:23 PM
I dun liek these problems...but this is seriously pre-calc?  I'm in pre-calc and we're solving higher-degree polynomials now O_o
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: sleepin_dude_99 on December 06, 2007, 05:54:59 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 05:51:23 PM
I dun liek these problems...but this is seriously pre-calc?  I'm in pre-calc and we're solving higher-degree polynomials now O_o
You never know, schools go at different paces...

And ur nawt on D:
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: LightShock on December 06, 2007, 06:04:53 PM
WE LEARN COMPOUND FRACTIONS NEXT SEMESTER! :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: L10 on December 06, 2007, 06:06:19 PM
well i'm not here to do YOUR work...your just here to do my work ^_^
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: LightShock on December 06, 2007, 06:04:53 PM
WE LEARN COMPOUND FRACTIONS NEXT SEMESTER! :(
NOOOOOOOO :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Red on December 06, 2007, 06:15:38 PM
I'd help, but I gotta do my own homework. Soon. :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: TheKoopaBros. on December 06, 2007, 06:33:32 PM
Don't you just need to come up with a greatest common factor for all the denominators to cancel and simplify?

I've done similar problems and I remember having to do that.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: TheKoopaBros. on December 06, 2007, 06:33:32 PM
Don't you just need to come up with a greatest common factor for all the denominators to cancel and simplify?

I've done similar problems and I remember having to do that.
Yeah, but then I forget which things to cancel out. :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 06:38:06 PM
Dude, that's hard as heck to read, but I'll help.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 05:10:49 PM
I have a take-home test due tomorrow, and I need sum halp.

"Simplify the compound fraction. SHOW YOR WORK! (4 pts)

[(1/x + 1) + (1/2)] / (3/2X2 + 4X + 2)
kthx ^_^

Much better, now to solve...
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 06:48:55 PM
Teh answer:

x3 + 3x2
----------------------------
8x4 + 12x3 + 4x2 + 3x + 3

Multiply top and bottom by both 2x2 and (x +1). That's as simple as you can get without going into the realm of imaginary numbers.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 06:48:55 PM
Teh answer:

x3 + 3x2
----------------------------
8x4 + 12x3 + 4x2 + 3x + 3

Multiply top and bottom by both 2x2 and (x +1). That's as simple as you can get without going into the realm of imaginary numbers.
??? I got:
x(3x + 2)
--------------------------------------------
8x3 + 4x2 + 3
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 06:48:55 PM
Teh answer:

x3 + 3x2
----------------------------
8x4 + 12x3 + 4x2 + 3x + 3

Multiply top and bottom by both 2x2 and (x +1). That's as simple as you can get without going into the realm of imaginary numbers.
??? I got:
x(3x + 2)
--------------------------------------------
8x3 + 4x2 + 3

From what I see, I'm right if you solve it the way Silver wrote it, but Termanian_Knight is right if there's a parenthesis in this part...

1/(x + 1) + 1/2
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 06:48:55 PM
Teh answer:

x3 + 3x2
----------------------------
8x4 + 12x3 + 4x2 + 3x + 3

Multiply top and bottom by both 2x2 and (x +1). That's as simple as you can get without going into the realm of imaginary numbers.
??? I got:
x(3x + 2)
--------------------------------------------
8x3 + 4x2 + 3

Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Syncopathic on December 06, 2007, 07:05:07 PM
repeat 9th grader: wuts a compund number/fraction O_O
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 06:48:55 PM
Teh answer:

x3 + 3x2
----------------------------
8x4 + 12x3 + 4x2 + 3x + 3

Multiply top and bottom by both 2x2 and (x +1). That's as simple as you can get without going into the realm of imaginary numbers.
??? I got:
x(3x + 2)
--------------------------------------------
8x3 + 4x2 + 3

Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:
Look at the post above yours. ::)
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Syncopathic on December 06, 2007, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
are you a senior? O_O
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on December 06, 2007, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
are you a senior? O_O

I'mma a magic man. :^D
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Syncopathic on December 06, 2007, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on December 06, 2007, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
are you a senior? O_O

I'mma a magic man. :^D
i wish i was magickal  at math :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
Also, I forget. Does f o g(x) mean I put f in for all the x values in g, or vice versa?
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
Also, I forget. Does f o g(x) mean I put f in for all the x values in g, or vice versa?
do inner terms first.  calculate g(x) and put that in f(x).
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
Also, I forget. Does f o g(x) mean I put f in for all the x values in g, or vice versa?
do inner terms first.  calculate g(x) and put that in f(x).
So I put g(x) in for all x values of f(x)?
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
Also, I forget. Does f o g(x) mean I put f in for all the x values in g, or vice versa?
do inner terms first.  calculate g(x) and put that in f(x).
So I put g(x) in for all x values of f(x)?
f o g(x) = f(g(x))
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
XP I'm too technical. >_>
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:38:50 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
Also, I forget. Does f o g(x) mean I put f in for all the x values in g, or vice versa?
do inner terms first.  calculate g(x) and put that in f(x).
So I put g(x) in for all x values of f(x)?
f o g(x) = f(g(x))
I'm dense tonight. :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Termanian_Knight on December 06, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:33 PM
Aaaaaaaa, make up your mind. D:

So what is it at the beginning of the problem? (1/x) + 1 or 1/(x+1)?
1/(x+1)

I'M DA WINRAR!!!1!1

The answer I posted is the 'correct' one.
XP I'm too technical. >_>

No, I wondered the same thing, but the format of the problem seemed odd on paper.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
The inverse is found by substituting 'x' with 'y' in the equation and solving for 'y'. Note that 'y' really is f(x).
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
O_o

reversing x and y is less complicated
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
I know, but somehow...my answer for this one problem ends up weird.

f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
f-1(x) = x(3y+2) - 2/3
That doesn't seem right...
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on December 06, 2007, 07:53:11 PM
...this thread confuses me.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
I know, but somehow...my answer for this one problem ends up weird.

f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
f-1(x) = x(3y+2) - 2/3
That doesn't seem right...
f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
y = 6/(3x+2)
x = 6/(3y+2)

and solve that for x.
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
I know, but somehow...my answer for this one problem ends up weird.

f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
f-1(x) = x(3y+2) - 2/3
That doesn't seem right...
f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
y = 6/(3x+2)
x = 6/(3y+2)

and solve that for x.
That's what I just did. psyduck;
Title: Re: PRE-CALC HALP AAAAAAA
Post by: Rius on December 06, 2007, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on December 06, 2007, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:51:13 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 06, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on December 06, 2007, 07:41:35 PM
ALSO ONE LAST QUESTION.
How does I find f-1(x)? :(
It's the inverse of the function, exempli gratia f(x) = x, f-1(x) = 1/x; f(x) = ex, f-1(x) = ln x.
I know, but somehow...my answer for this one problem ends up weird.

f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
f-1(x) = x(3y+2) - 2/3
That doesn't seem right...
f(x) = 6/(3x+2)
y = 6/(3x+2)
x = 6/(3y+2)

and solve that for x.
That's what I just did. psyduck;
Then you should have gotten  f-1(x) = 2x - 2/3;