Every time there is an update with a character that I argued AGAINST over at the original Nsider gets updated as an Assist Trophie, I laugh only because I picture their faces when they read the news.
First it was Lyn, because I preferred Eirika and Ephraim (but I don't expect them to get in.)
Second was Meowth, whom I argued Lucario to.
Third up? Little Mac. His few amount of punches blew my mind when people argued for him.
Fourth would be Gardevoir, who people even told me they'd pay me if she wasn't playable. Again, I argued Lucario.
Fifth was Stafy, I argued he'd be too awkward to play as and that he'd probably be too weak. "But...he's weak?"
Sixth, Waluigi, on the basis that he's too much of a filler character and not an "All-Star" and Sakurai was even nice enough to throw in "The fact that he's an Assist Trophy means he won't be appearing as a playable character"
I'll admit, there were two I thought would be playable that weren't, Samurai Goroh and Resetti, but I did get my Diddy Kong, so I'm happy. =]
staffy wasnt gonna get in anyways. but waluigi mightve. i kinda made me sad.
What did you have to say about Ridley?
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:32:18 AM
What did you have to say about Ridley?
Granted your name is Ridley, I'll assume you're an avid fan.
I'd prefer Sylux, my original argument was that Ridley's size, even if scalable, would be too ridiculous to play as, as he'd be a walking punching bag. When Charizard was released, that argument was refuted, but then I thought "Would Sakurai really put two dragon creatures in?" Actually, he probably would, considering how many sword users we have, but that's just a tad different.
In any case, I don't personally expect Ridley to get in, but it's possible.
I think Sylux would be more fun to play as though. I can picture Ridley being like Bowser of the older games, after playing once or twice as him, people would stop using him.
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
King K. Rool
Anybody I'm missing?
I didn't expect any of them asides from Gardevoir and Resetti as Animal Crosser's Final Smash.
Quote from: Riddler_Rob on December 14, 2007, 06:35:10 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:32:18 AM
What did you have to say about Ridley?
Granted your name is Ridley, I'll assume you're an avid fan.
I'd prefer Sylux, my original argument was that Ridley's size, even if scalable, would be too ridiculous to play as, as he'd be a walking punching bag. When Charizard was released, that argument was refuted, but then I thought "Would Sakurai really put two dragon creatures in?" Actually, he probably would, considering how many sword users we have, but that's just a tad different.
In any case, I don't personally expect Ridley to get in, but it's possible.
I think Sylux would be more fun to play as though. I can picture Ridley being like Bowser of the older games, after playing once or twice as him, people would stop using him.
No problem for me considering my main was Bowser. I want Ridley more than the Hunters but I wouldn't mind the hunters being in. There is on problem however. Sakrai and Japan aren't paying attention to the 3d series of metroid. That is the arguement against Dark Samus and it probably works the same with the hunters. By the way I also support Dark Samus but there isn't much of a chance there.
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Ridly
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Why do you have a second Ridley spelled wrong on the list?
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:39:51 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Ridly
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Why do you have a second Ridley spelled wrong on the list?
Sorry. :)
*Goes to fix.*
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridley - Not expected
Lyn
Lucario- Expected
Tom Nook- Not expected
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip- Not expected
Toad- Not expected
Luigi with Vacuume - Unsure.
Wolf- Not expected
Krystal- Expected
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Quote from: Riddler_Rob on December 14, 2007, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridley - Expected
Lyn
Lucario- Expected
Tom Nook- Not expected
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip- Not expected
Toad- Not expected
Luigi with Vacuume - Unsure.
Wolf- Not expected
Krystal- Expected
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Fixed
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:43:02 AM
Quote from: Riddler_Rob on December 14, 2007, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridley - Expected
Lyn
Lucario- Expected
Tom Nook- Not expected
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip- Not expected
Toad- Not expected
Luigi with Vacuume - Unsure.
Wolf- Not expected
Krystal- Expected
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Fixed
Actually, most of those statistics come from JUST here and NSider 2.
But, there are people that are NOT on ANY forum and STILL want at least SOME of these characters.
And Tom Nook is STILL in and VERY WELL expected! And I'm not believing ANYTHING different until Tom Nook is confirmed as an AT, until all the updates are on the site and Nook isn't in there, OR when Brawl comes out and it is descovered that Nook isn't in.
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
/facepalm
*Goes to fix*
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Well, I ALSO haven't played many Metroid Games. :P
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Well, I ALSO haven't played many Metroid Games. :P
I've only played Metroid Prime 1, but my friends have a lot of Metroid games. ;)
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 09:14:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Try playing the first metroid he is one head above Samus
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Well, I ALSO haven't played many Metroid Games. :P
I've only played Metroid Prime 1, but my friends have a lot of Metroid games. ;)
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 09:14:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Try playing the first metroid he is one head above Samus
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Well, I ALSO haven't played many Metroid Games. :P
I've only played Metroid Prime 1, but my friends have a lot of Metroid games. ;)
Why isn't Toad crossed out. He is one of Peach's moves.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on December 14, 2007, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 09:23:41 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 09:14:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 07:16:08 AM
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Try playing the first metroid he is one head above Samus
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Well, I ALSO haven't played many Metroid Games. :P
I've only played Metroid Prime 1, but my friends have a lot of Metroid games. ;)
Why isn't Toad crossed out. He is one of Peach's moves.
We need Namco..........................like a Tales series character or......a cabbit.
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:48:57 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:43:02 AM
Quote from: Riddler_Rob on December 14, 2007, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Ridley - Expected
Lyn
Lucario- Expected
Tom Nook- Not expected
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip- Not expected
Toad- Not expected
Luigi with Vacuume - Unsure.
Wolf- Not expected
Krystal- Expected
Mr. Rossetti
Anybody I'm missing?
Fixed
Actually, most of those statistics come from JUST here and NSider 2.
But, there are people that are NOT on ANY forum and STILL want at least SOME of these characters.
And Tom Nook is STILL in and VERY WELL expected! And I'm not believing ANYTHING different until Tom Nook is confirmed as an AT, until all the updates are on the site and Nook isn't in there, OR when Brawl comes out and it is descovered that Nook isn't in.
Those are MY expectations.
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
He fluctuates, too. In one game he was 2x DK's size, in another he was 5x DK's size, but in another he was 1.3x DK's size.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on December 14, 2007, 05:05:15 PM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
He fluctuates, too. In one game he was 2x DK's size, in another he was 5x DK's size, but in another he was 1.3x DK's size.
in other words: he can be resized... ;D
Quote from: RedSox on December 14, 2007, 07:06:50 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Ridley on December 14, 2007, 06:56:50 AM
Quote from: Commissar Andy on December 14, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
Anybody I'm missing?
what about King K. Rool?
I don't really know but in DK games he is twice the size of DK and would probably be the biggest characterin the game if he was in.
But Ridely is huge too!
Well, at least in all the times I've seen him. :-\
In fact, in most games, Ridley is no more than 3-5in above Samus's head.
Thats Meta Ridley. Meta Ridley=Bad
Super Metroid Ridley=Good
Super Metroid Ridley is the one who will be in Brawl =D
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
King K. Rool
Anybody I'm missing?
Do I have to say it?
Quote from: Cornwad on December 14, 2007, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
King K. Rool
Anybody I'm missing?
Do I have to say it?
let me guess...is it barbie!? ;)
Quote from: thunderhero4 on December 14, 2007, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on December 14, 2007, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 14, 2007, 06:37:25 AM
Alright, let's see...
Meowth
Ridely
Lyn
Lucario
Tom Nook
Stafy
Waluigi
Lip
Toad
Little Mac
Luigi with Vacuume
Wolf
Krystal
Mr. Rossetti
Gardovier
King K. Rool
Anybody I'm missing?
Do I have to say it?
let me guess...is it barbie!? ;)
Worst, the entire Myscene cast! Oh crap!
just as long as we get the Black Knight, I'll be happy, heck, I'll be happy if unstoppable destiny is a my music song.
There are only a few characters I actually see having a chance, but these are my opinions.
Lucario
Krystal
K. Rool
Megaman
When I wanted Diddy, I wanted it to be a Diddy/Dixie combo to contrast to the Ice Climbers, but with a switch option, like a down B would be a tag. That's down the drain.
It was pretty obvious that Stafy wouldn't be playable. I wasn't completely sure about Waluigi, though I was leaning more towards the assist trophy side. About Ridley: I expect him to be playable. I didn't know there were still people complaining about his size, so I'll say it: Ridley is barely taller than Samus. He is bigger because of his wings, but he's not much taller. That's normal Ridley, I'm not talking about Meta Ridley here. Meta Ridley is quite obviously a giant compared to any Smash character, I'm not stupid. But I didn't think it still needed to be explained that Ridley isn't oversized. If you still question me, watch the Melee opening video.
This update made me smile bigtime. I'll admit it; I enjoyed seeing this as a "screw you" to the old NSider. This means Sakurai doesn't give a darn about who the fans want in, just who HE wants in.
Also, obligatory "Ew, Lucrappyo." >_>
Quote from: LuigiMan on December 14, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
It was pretty obvious that Stafy wouldn't be playable. I wasn't completely sure about Waluigi, though I was leaning more towards the assist trophy side. About Ridley: I expect him to be playable. I didn't know there were still people complaining about his size, so I'll say it: Ridley is barely taller than Samus. He is bigger because of his wings, but he's not much taller. That's normal Ridley, I'm not talking about Meta Ridley here. Meta Ridley is quite obviously a giant compared to any Smash character, I'm not stupid. But I didn't think it still needed to be explained that Ridley isn't oversized. If you still question me, watch the Melee opening video.
I never said anything about his SIZE, I know he can be resized. But the way he's shaped, no matter what size he is, his hitzone will be ridiculous.
Quote from: Riddler_Rob on December 14, 2007, 07:48:29 PM
Quote from: LuigiMan on December 14, 2007, 07:13:47 PM
It was pretty obvious that Stafy wouldn't be playable. I wasn't completely sure about Waluigi, though I was leaning more towards the assist trophy side. About Ridley: I expect him to be playable. I didn't know there were still people complaining about his size, so I'll say it: Ridley is barely taller than Samus. He is bigger because of his wings, but he's not much taller. That's normal Ridley, I'm not talking about Meta Ridley here. Meta Ridley is quite obviously a giant compared to any Smash character, I'm not stupid. But I didn't think it still needed to be explained that Ridley isn't oversized. If you still question me, watch the Melee opening video.
I never said anything about his SIZE, I know he can be resized. But the way he's shaped, no matter what size he is, his hitzone will be ridiculous.
Don't worry, my post wasn't directed at you, just anyone who still complains about the size.