Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
BUT, that can be EASILY done at ANY other time, WITHOUT changing you into some REALLY hawt alien girl!
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
BUT, that can be EASILY done at ANY other time, WITHOUT changing you into some REALLY hawt alien girl!
What, the final smash? I don't understand what you're saying.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:19:42 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
BUT, that can be EASILY done at ANY other time, WITHOUT changing you into some REALLY hawt alien girl!
What, the final smash? I don't understand what you're saying.
No, anything BUT the final smash!
I'd rather stay samus, that';s all I'm saying.
BUT, if Classic Mario were in Brawl, now THAT'S somebody I would play as without worry!
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:21:20 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:19:42 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
BUT, that can be EASILY done at ANY other time, WITHOUT changing you into some REALLY hawt alien girl!
What, the final smash? I don't understand what you're saying.
No, anything BUT the final smash!
I'd rather stay samus, that';s all I'm saying.
BUT, if Classic Mario were in Brawl, now THAT'S somebody I would play as without worry!
All right then. Samus isn't an alien by the way. Do you blame her for wearing a tight suit under the power suit she wears. It must be uncomfortable.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:44:14 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:21:20 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:19:42 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 01, 2008, 12:05:34 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
Unnessisary!
If I wanna fight as Samus, I WANNA STAY SAMUS!
PLUS, the zero cannon only does 40% dmg ANYWAY!
I don't know how good that is compaired to other FSs, BUT, I can tell you, 1 peach turnip can do THAT much damage!
Don't you think you're exagerating a bit? It's called a final smash so you want to use it to KO your opponent so you should beat you opponent to a good amount before using it. Don't forget the blast is big enough to almost take over the whole stage so three players can get trapped in there and fall off the stage due to the impact.
BUT, that can be EASILY done at ANY other time, WITHOUT changing you into some REALLY hawt alien girl!
What, the final smash? I don't understand what you're saying.
No, anything BUT the final smash!
I'd rather stay samus, that';s all I'm saying.
BUT, if Classic Mario were in Brawl, now THAT'S somebody I would play as without worry!
All right then. Samus isn't an alien by the way. Do you blame her for wearing a tight suit under the power suit she wears. It must be uncomfortable.
SHE'S AN ADOPTED ALIAN HAWT CHICK!
i dont hate her. i just think there are a lot more important characters than her
Couldn't I ask you the same about 3rd parties?
I am neither for nor against ZSS, but she's in so I may as well embrace that fact.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
I'm one of the people who
wants to use ZSS! It looks solid, she gets her armor back, and she's MORE AGILE! So technically, this could save you when you're about to lose a match when you use the Zero Laser (Not the laser, but the transformation.)!
I don't really mind her...
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 01, 2008, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:01:56 AM
Seriously, does everybody not like her? She's fast and is a great bonus to Samus in a fight. She can get back into her suit after her final smash and if you're a true Samus fan than you should learn to use her moves to your advantage. I seriously don't understand why people are complaining that they don't want to use the Zero Laser because Samus loses her suit. ZSS looks like a sweet fighter and should be easy to master with because she's fast and has long distance attacks. Well, anyway, what are your thoughts of ZSS? Discuss.
I'm one of the people who wants to use ZSS! It looks solid, she gets her armor back, and she's MORE AGILE! So technically, this could save you when you're about to lose a match when you use the Zero Laser (Not the laser, but the transformation.)!
This is strange. I've read from several previous topics that everybody complained about Samus losing her power suit.
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
Because you are getting a new character, but can't really use ZSS outside of when smash balls are on.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:13:33 PM
Because you are getting a new character, but can't really use ZSS outside of when smash balls are on.
Well, if you wanted to play like in Melee than turn the smash balls off and you won't have to worry about ZSS. Also, if you get the smash ball nobody said you didn't have to use the zero laser. Also, you can throw off your opponent by changing into a much faster character.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
My bad. So you never played as ZSS?
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:13:33 PM
Because you are getting a new character, but can't really use ZSS outside of when smash balls are on.
Well, if you wanted to play like in Melee than turn the smash balls off and you won't have to worry about ZSS. Also, if you get the smash ball nobody said you didn't have to use the zero laser. Also, you can throw off your opponent by changing into a much faster character.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
I meant you can't use her if you don't use final smashes, and you're forced to use her if you DO use them...it's sorta unfair in a way.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:13:33 PM
Because you are getting a new character, but can't really use ZSS outside of when smash balls are on.
Well, if you wanted to play like in Melee than turn the smash balls off and you won't have to worry about ZSS. Also, if you get the smash ball nobody said you didn't have to use the zero laser. Also, you can throw off your opponent by changing into a much faster character.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
I meant you can't use her if you don't use final smashes, and you're forced to use her if you DO use them...it's sorta unfair in a way.
Well, maybe Sakurai will let you chose to start of as Samus or Zero Suit Samus. They'd still be the same character though on the selection screen. It could turn out to be a cheat like how you can instantly transform into Shiek right when the match starts in melee.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:13:33 PM
Because you are getting a new character, but can't really use ZSS outside of when smash balls are on.
Well, if you wanted to play like in Melee than turn the smash balls off and you won't have to worry about ZSS. Also, if you get the smash ball nobody said you didn't have to use the zero laser. Also, you can throw off your opponent by changing into a much faster character.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
I meant you can't use her if you don't use final smashes, and you're forced to use her if you DO use them...it's sorta unfair in a way.
Well, maybe Sakurai will let you chose to start of as Samus or Zero Suit Samus. They'd still be the same character though on the selection screen. It could turn out to be a cheat like how you can instantly transform into Shiek right when the match starts in melee.
It's still not a "one or the other" like Zelda/Sheik is, it's just too forced for my liking...but I rarely use Samus anyway, but it still irks me.
@Shujinco- The Zero laser is capable of more then 40%, I would know. It also always gets you off the edge. Can you say meteor smash? ZSS's Meteor is awesome.
Infact, most of ZSS's physical moves reflect Samus' moves but are pulled off faster. The only detrimental difference is that she uses a paralyzer for smash attacks which works beautiffly. She's not psuedo fast, but much better on her feet then Samus. Don't knock her until you give her a try, its worth it.
(I went to E for all..)
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
my question is "Are metaknight and pit fun to use?"
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Fox got nerfed. :/
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
Metaknight is going to be upper tier...
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
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Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
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Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
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Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
I dunno, my friend said they he might have been nerfed because he was too strong to be that fast.
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I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a poopty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
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I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
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Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
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I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs. Am I the only one who thought of that?
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Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
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I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs. Am I the only one who thought of that?
0_o
You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?
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Quote from: Cornwad on January 01, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.
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Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.
I guarantee by the time Brawl is out the majority of everybody on the smash bros boards will like ZSS. Aren't there only five members here that went to the E for All?
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Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.
I guarantee by the time Brawl is out the majority of everybody on the smash bros boards will like ZSS. Aren't there only five members here that went to the E for All?
Probably, but people that arn't from here didn't like her either. You could be right though.
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Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
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I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs. Am I the only one who thought of that?
0_o
You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?
I think neutral B initiates FS.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 01, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs. Am I the only one who thought of that?
0_o
You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?
I think neutral B initiates FS.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that explaind it. :)
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 01, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.
Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 01, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 01, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 01, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.
I guess it just takes getting used to. You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?
No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.
Also, it's called E4all. ;)
You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?
Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.
Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?
Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=12132).
I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?
Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.
Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.
You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;
D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs. Am I the only one who thought of that?
0_o
You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?
I think neutral B initiates FS.
no, just hitting special move launches it...it's not just neutral B...