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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: SkyMyl on January 08, 2008, 02:39:10 PM

Poll
Question: Do you loathe the Water Dungeon with your life?
Option 1: Well DUH! votes: 3
Option 2: YES! votes: 8
Option 3: Neutral votes: 4
Option 4: Not really votes: 5
Option 5: No. In fact, it was FUN! votes: 3
Title: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 08, 2008, 02:39:10 PM
This WAS, "Which dungeon do you hate most," but since everyone voted Water, I changed it to, "Do you hate the Water Temple?" So all the older posts reflect which dungeon they hated when the first version this poll was. On January 14, the poll has been edited.

So all those who posted to the original poll, please edit your message to reflect what the poll is now. AND KEEP THE LANGUAGE CLEAN! Thank you.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Oren on January 08, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
i hate water the most..... but ice is bad too
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Allegretto on January 10, 2008, 07:30:15 PM
Water definitly in any game
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Kris on January 10, 2008, 07:52:03 PM
I never liked the water ones. Mainly because they involved changing the water levels within them.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 11, 2008, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Kris on January 10, 2008, 07:52:03 PM
I never liked the water ones. Mainly because they involved changing the water levels within them.
Twilight Princess and OoT.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Kris on January 11, 2008, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 11, 2008, 10:31:06 AM
Twilight Princess and OoT.

And Oracle of Ages and Majora's Mask.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 11, 2008, 02:02:27 PM
Quote from: Kris on January 11, 2008, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 11, 2008, 10:31:06 AM
Twilight Princess and OoT.

And Oracle of Ages and Majora's Mask.
Oracle of Ages: Forgot about that.
Majora's Mask: There wasn't a water raising system. You had to work it so that water went through the right pipe or something like that. Either way, it was a bit harder than typical Water Dungeons...or a lot.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Cecil_and_Kain on January 11, 2008, 04:56:15 PM
Water. *curls up in a ball*
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Kris on January 11, 2008, 05:27:31 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 11, 2008, 02:02:27 PM
Majora's Mask: There wasn't a water raising system. You had to work it so that water went through the right pipe or something like that. Either way, it was a bit harder than typical Water Dungeons...or a lot.

Yeah, I counted it because it was just as hard. lol. And almost similar.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Helios on January 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
Definitely the forest dungeons. Just so dang boring, in my opinion. Why so much hate for the water dungeons? They usually have the most clever puzzles.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 12, 2008, 08:55:18 AM
Quote from: Helios on January 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
Definitely the forest dungeons. Just so dang boring, in my opinion. Why so much hate for the water dungeons? They usually have the most clever puzzles.
For me it's just in OoT and TP, but everyone else has fury for all of them. The LttP one wasn't hard.

As for the Forest Dungeon, I think you're wrong partway. The Ocarina of Time Forest Temple was pure fun for me. Good puzzles, layout, enemies (Except for Keese.), and boss. It was one of my favorites!
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Fell on January 12, 2008, 11:24:42 AM
Water by far.

They're just so annoying.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Tomful on January 12, 2008, 03:36:43 PM
Ice, mainly because the ice physics in most Zelda games suck. :(
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: PsychoYoshi on January 12, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: Helios on January 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
Definitely the forest dungeons. Just so dang boring, in my opinion. Why so much hate for the water dungeons? They usually have the most clever puzzles.

I wouldn't call Lakebed Temple or the OoT Water Temple "clever," I'd call them annoying as hell.

A brief list of bad water dungeons in the Zelda series:
-OoT Water Temple
-Angler's Tunnel (LA)
-Lakebed Temple (TP)
-Jabu-Jabu's Belly (OoA)
-Swamp Temple (LA)

The single water dungeon that I've enjoyed is Great Bay Temple from MM.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 13, 2008, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 12, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: Helios on January 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
Definitely the forest dungeons. Just so dang boring, in my opinion. Why so much hate for the water dungeons? They usually have the most clever puzzles.

I wouldn't call Lakebed Temple or the OoT Water Temple "clever," I'd call them annoying as hell.

A brief list of bad water dungeons in the Zelda series:
-OoT Water Temple
-Angler's Tunnel (LA)
-Lakebed Temple (TP)
-Jabu-Jabu's Belly (OoA)
-Swamp Temple (LA)

The single water dungeon that I've enjoyed is Great Bay Temple from MM.
What!? Jabu-Jabu's Belly was okay for me, but Great Bay Temple was one of the WORST Water temples!

And when did this change from the most terrible dungeon ever to the Water Dungeon Debate?
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: PsychoYoshi on January 13, 2008, 08:06:55 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 13, 2008, 07:58:14 PM
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 12, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: Helios on January 11, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
Definitely the forest dungeons. Just so dang boring, in my opinion. Why so much hate for the water dungeons? They usually have the most clever puzzles.

I wouldn't call Lakebed Temple or the OoT Water Temple "clever," I'd call them annoying as hell.

A brief list of bad water dungeons in the Zelda series:
-OoT Water Temple
-Angler's Tunnel (LA)
-Lakebed Temple (TP)
-Jabu-Jabu's Belly (OoA)
-Swamp Temple (LA)

The single water dungeon that I've enjoyed is Great Bay Temple from MM.
What!? Jabu-Jabu's Belly was okay for me, but Great Bay Temple was one of the WORST Water temples!

And when did this change from the most terrible dungeon ever to the Water Dungeon Debate?

We're debating on whether the water-themed dungeons are the worst or not. Sounds like a valid discussion to me. It's just that 99% of this forum think debate is akin to flaming or going off-topic. It's not.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: Shadowlink19 on January 14, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
Water for sure. Those dungeon types are so annoying.
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 14, 2008, 01:04:08 PM
Quote from: Shadowlink19 on January 14, 2008, 08:40:14 AM
Water for sure. Those dungeon types are so annoying.
OKAY! I'm editing this poll later!
Title: Re: Least Favorite Type of Dungeon?
Post by: CrazyGamer on January 14, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
I hated Jabu Jabu's Dungeon in every game.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 14, 2008, 05:53:29 PM
The Poll has been edited.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: amplas on January 21, 2008, 08:56:52 AM
This is the best poll I've seen on Nsider.  :P I'm glad other people hate it, too.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 21, 2008, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: amplas on January 21, 2008, 08:56:52 AM
This is the best poll I've seen on Nsider.  :P I'm glad other people hate it, too.
::)
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: THEBIRD on January 21, 2008, 07:23:27 PM
TP was easy. Mostly everything on TP was easy. Majora's Mask was hard, but that whole game was hard if you tried completeing the whole thing with the masks. The OoT Water Temple was hard as well, but not nearly as hard as MM. I hated the Water Temple because it involved so much going back and forth, but it was nice to have something hard mixed in with a fairly easy game.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Daft Pink on January 21, 2008, 08:49:44 PM
I've always hated the water temples. Especially the one in OOT. *shivers*
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 22, 2008, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: Birdie of Aces on January 21, 2008, 07:23:27 PM
TP was easy. Mostly everything on TP was easy. Majora's Mask was hard, but that whole game was hard if you tried completeing the whole thing with the masks. The OoT Water Temple was hard as well, but not nearly as hard as MM. I hated the Water Temple because it involved so much going back and forth, but it was nice to have something hard mixed in with a fairly easy game.
TP: Easy indeed.
MM: Really!? I thought it was fun until you hit the Ikana Canyon...ugh.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Silly_Penguin on January 26, 2008, 10:22:57 AM
I don't see why people say it's so hard. For OOt, the Forrest Temple was harder then the Water temple (for me at least.). TP, i didn't think it was that hard, non of the dungeon's really where. (I would comment on the one in MM, but i'm not up to that yet. Almost, but not quite)
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Avion-Finch on January 26, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
it was hard but the easiness of the boss sorta made up for it.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: GeekyLink on January 27, 2008, 01:48:48 AM
I didn't actually hate the water temple in OoT; I enjoyed the challenge. Though it is interesting how in most of the games the water temple happens to be the hardest... Although the only actual exception I can think of is TP.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Allegretto on February 01, 2008, 03:11:06 PM
I personally hate this temple, i have beaten Orcarina of Time well over 100 times literally, and even tho i know this temple by heart now its still annoying....Shadow Link was still my favorite part in the game however.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: zeldaguy6 on February 01, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
annoying!
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: SkyMyl on February 02, 2008, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: zeldaguy6 on February 01, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
annoying!
...Be more harsh and specific on which one.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Cecil_and_Kain on February 02, 2008, 05:47:18 PM
Hmm.. On a second playthrough of Twilight Princess, it seems a lot easier.
I'm playing Wind Waker now so I am going to find out how hard it is in this one.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Tingle_Stole_My_Pants on February 03, 2008, 12:02:32 PM
Personally, I'm not sure whether to hate them or like them. It's not that the puzzles are too difficult for me to figure out, it's just that I often end up backtracking a lot and doing something over when I made a mistake somewhere, which just makes a long dungeon that much longer.

The water dungeons did have some fun boss battles, though. Dark Link was by far my favorite battle in the game, and bosses like Gyorg and TP's boss (whose name eludes me) made for an interesting battle (they're both trying to eat you while you're trying to kill them). Characters such as Wart (LttP, MM, and TP) and Barinade (and various similar incarnations) had an interesting theme to them as well (that being 'My millions of spawn will protect me and try to kill you at the same time! And when you kill them all I'll get mad and try to squish you!').

All in all, I liked the puzzles and the bosses, but hated when I had to do the puzzles over and over again.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Fell on February 03, 2008, 04:48:24 PM
Not really. I like some, like TP's and MM's.

But OoT's gives me a headache. Infact I'm 100% certain, I stop playing at that part on my second run-through.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: Silverhawk79 on February 03, 2008, 07:07:48 PM
The water temple is always the worst temple in Zelda games.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: ThePowerOfOne on February 03, 2008, 10:21:49 PM
The water temple in MM really sucked with all the changing water levels. But I don't hate the water temples.
Title: Re: Do you hate the Water Temple?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on February 05, 2008, 01:18:50 PM
The WW earth and wind temple I hated the most.  Water's okay.