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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: Saraneth on January 12, 2008, 03:19:13 PM

Title: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Saraneth on January 12, 2008, 03:19:13 PM
I don't want to harm nintendo, but I don't want to miss out on old games I never got to play and can't find, so are roms legal?
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Gwen Khan on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Oren on January 12, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
QFT
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: RosettaStoned on January 13, 2008, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: Oren on January 12, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
QFT
QFMFT.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on January 14, 2008, 03:31:03 PM
lol, no.

Only the emulators are legal, not the the roms.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Lotos on January 14, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
I heard of slim condtions that if you made a backup yourself from an actual cartridge, it could be legal but your warranty is intercourse ed.  You can go ahead and download them, but do so at your own risk.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on January 14, 2008, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 14, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
I heard of slim condtions that if you made a backup yourself from an actual cartridge, it could be legal but your warranty is intercourse ed.

Nintendo itself has stated that such rumors are absolutely false.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Lotos on January 15, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on January 14, 2008, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 14, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
I heard of slim condtions that if you made a backup yourself from an actual cartridge, it could be legal but your warranty is intercourse ed.

Nintendo itself has stated that such rumors are absolutely false.

Oh.  Thanks Kaz!
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: CrazyGamer on January 16, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
Since everyone has cleared the fog, let me say something...
The VC is your friend. Get it.  :O
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: SkyMyl on January 16, 2008, 02:49:49 PM
190% ILLEGAL. No matter how you look at it, ILLEGAL.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: linkrox on January 16, 2008, 05:45:26 PM
i thought that if you own the game they are legal but lets say if you downloaded sf2 that one would be illegal no matter what because it was never released
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on January 18, 2008, 01:23:36 AM
Quote from: linkrox on January 16, 2008, 05:45:26 PM
i thought that if you own the game they are legal

no
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: zeldaguy6 on January 30, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
so is torrenting!
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on January 30, 2008, 06:03:57 PM
Quote from: zeldaguy6 on January 30, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
so is torrenting!

Torrenting in general isn't illegal. What's illegal is torrenting things that aren't supposed to be free.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: on February 01, 2008, 01:45:37 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
Here's hoping it is.  ::)
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: zeldaguy6 on February 01, 2008, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on January 30, 2008, 06:03:57 PM
Quote from: zeldaguy6 on January 30, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
so is torrenting!

Torrenting in general isn't illegal. What's illegal is torrenting things that aren't supposed to be free.
meh, so very true... im talking about like itunes music and crap. but i suppose.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Oren on February 01, 2008, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
wow thats good.... what loopholes?
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Jono2 on February 01, 2008, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Oren on February 01, 2008, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
wow thats good.... what loopholes?

it would be illegal, but it's stored on the RAM, so once you close the page, it's as if you never played the game.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: DRIFTYOSHIZERO11 on February 04, 2008, 05:31:52 PM
I would believe they are illegal if you do not have the original cartirige and if you attempt to sell the rom at any cost.

I wonder if roms are illegal, then why do all the sites that have them haven't been forced to close? I know they can't find all but, they are easily seen.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Shrodu on February 17, 2008, 04:59:01 PM
It's legal.....until you get caught.   Asking and supplying is illegal, though.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: extraz on February 18, 2008, 11:05:27 AM
homebrew only, thats all thats legal, everything else is owned by whatever company that made it.

games by companies that don't exist anymore should be cool.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: DSMASTER17 on February 19, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
ROMs are 100% illegal.

That is, unless YOU legally obtain one by getting it on your own without downloading it.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Linkmaster404 on February 19, 2008, 07:22:50 PM
im going to say there illegal.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: The Seventh on March 17, 2008, 03:24:13 PM
ROMS = illegal, PERIOD.

Always, no exceptions.
Quote from: DSMASTER17 on February 19, 2008, 04:37:21 PM
ROMs are 100% illegal.

That is, unless YOU legally obtain one by getting it on your own without downloading it.
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Oren on March 17, 2008, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on February 01, 2008, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Oren on February 01, 2008, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
wow thats good.... what loopholes?

it would be illegal, but it's stored on the RAM, so once you close the page, it's as if you never played the game.
oh... ok.. that kinda makes sence
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Zovistograt on March 17, 2008, 06:30:14 PM
By law, technically yes, but I'd say it's in the same league as downloaded music and movies in terms of ethics.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: DRIFTYOSHIZERO11 on March 18, 2008, 05:08:26 PM
Ok...So ROMs are ILLEGAL if you attemt to sell them. Basically if someone asks for it and someone gives it to them(even if it's free) it's still illegal. Now, in my school, people have ROMs but the school officer(he is real police) didn't say we can't have them(He's strict about this stuff). He said that if we give it away to someone else then we'd get in trouble but, other than that....I don't really know.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Silverhawk79 on March 18, 2008, 06:14:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on February 01, 2008, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Oren on February 01, 2008, 07:38:09 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
wow thats good.... what loopholes?

it would be illegal, but it's stored on the RAM, so once you close the page, it's as if you never played the game.
Exactly. ;o
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Gwen Khan on March 18, 2008, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?
I said they were illegal, I never said you should not use them
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Jono2 on March 20, 2008, 12:26:46 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

On the virtual console one day.


it's as illegal as downloading music.  you won't ever get caught, but you don't go running around saying you have them sort of thing.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on March 20, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

Is $60 really that hard to come up with? Buy the cartridge.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Jono2 on March 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 20, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

Is $60 really that hard to come up with? Buy the cartridge.

from where?
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on March 24, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on March 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 20, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

Is $60 really that hard to come up with? Buy the cartridge.

from where?

eBay, of course. The auctions usually end with the price anywhere between $55 and $75.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Zelda_Masta on April 06, 2008, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: CrazyGamer on January 16, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
Since everyone has cleared the fog, let me say something...
The VC is your friend. Get it.  :O
why am i gonna pay 5 bucks for something that costs nintendo absolutley nothing... i mean all they need to do is have one copy of the rom and Bam! the get suckers into buying copies of it... nintendo has already cheated me out of enough money.  i would say go ahead and download the rom.  whats nintendo gonna do? track you down? they dont have the time and the money to deal with such nonsense.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Zelda_Masta on April 06, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 24, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on March 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 20, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

Is $60 really that hard to come up with? Buy the cartridge.

from where?

eBay, of course. The auctions usually end with the price anywhere between $55 and $75.
60-75$ is a total rip off!! face it unless you want to spend untold amounts of money trying to buy Nes cartridges "legally" than just download the game...
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Kaz on April 07, 2008, 10:59:34 AM
Quote from: Zelda_Masta on April 06, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 24, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on March 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 20, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on March 18, 2008, 07:20:30 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 12, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
they are 100% illegal period! it does not matter if you have the a legit copy they are illegal
True, but how else do you expect me to play Earthbound?

Is $60 really that hard to come up with? Buy the cartridge.

from where?

eBay, of course. The auctions usually end with the price anywhere between $55 and $75.
60-75$ is a total rip off!! face it unless you want to spend untold amounts of money trying to buy Nes cartridges "legally" than just download the game...

oh cool too bad Earthbound is an SNES game, not NES

do your research

New console games these days cost $50, and plenty of us shell out that much, so what's $15 or so more? Not much to complain about, especially for a game that's considered so awesome to own.

If we want to talk about rip-offs, we can talk about the starting price of OoT when it came out.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Miiman56 on April 10, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
Yea but I use them anyway
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Seanguy on April 13, 2008, 04:14:32 PM
Quote from: Miiman56 on April 10, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
Yea but I use them anyway
dude! acually if you make your own roms, no.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Rayquarian on April 24, 2008, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
What NFES?
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: SkyMyl on April 24, 2008, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: Rayquarian on April 24, 2008, 05:47:21 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 15, 2008, 06:00:57 AM
They're illegal any way you look at them.
However, our NFES is legal through a series of loopholes. :P
What NFES?
It was a feature on NSF that could play a lot (Not all.) of Nintendo Entertainment System games. You played using the keys on your keyboard, and could buy an adapter online and use an NES controller to play games. But after the takeover from NS2, we lost NFES. But we'll get it back eventually. So you could go to VirtualNES.com and play the games there, which is the same thing, but is still being updated and has a few more games.

Nintendo Forums Entertainment System. Hope this helped.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: Unknown0 on May 28, 2008, 12:11:01 PM
ROMs are indeed illegal.  No, it is not legal if you rip the game yourself; that just means you have two  copies of the same game, and one you did not pay for.  No, if you own the original game this does not mean you are allowed to use the ROM.

However, it doesn't matter.  They're on the internet, you can use them if you want.  It's really NOT going to harm Nintendo, especially if you are playing old games.  They aren't gaining any money from purchasing the real game anyways.
Title: Re: Are Roms Legal?
Post by: PsychoYoshi on May 29, 2008, 07:49:08 AM
...how old is this thread? Don't bump, please.