Check out these de-cloned movesets I made for Ganondorf, Falco, and Young Link (from WW/PH).
I also put in a new moveset for Mewtwo, since I really want him to return, but his old moveset sucked.
Young Link
Standard= Ice Arrow= like Link's B; if charged long enough, it freezes enemies for 1 second
Up= Deku Leaf= like Peach's Up B, but with his leaf
Side= Bombchu= throws a bombchu that crawls forward until it hits something
Down= Hurricane Spin= like older Link's Up B, but doesn't act as third jump
Final Smash= Ballad of Gales= uses Wind Waker to cause tornados that swirl around the screen, damaging opponents and tossing them into the air
Ganondorf
Standard= Warlock Blade= like his old B, but hits the enemy with his sword instead of his fist
Up= Gerudo Blast= an enemy-damaging explosion of magic sends him flying upward
Side= Twilight Blade= slashes his blade to send a wave of dark energy
Down= Wizard Shield= like Lucas' Down B
Final Smash= Ganon= turns into Ganon (monster) for ten seconds; while Ganon, all you can do is run and jump, but you're invincible and everyone you touch is greatly injured
Mewtwo
Standard= Shadow Ball= same as he already had
Up= Teleport= same as he already had
Side= Psycho Cut= a slash of psychic energy that can be used repeatedly to make a combo, like Marth/Roy's Side B; if it goes all the way to a fourth slash, the psychic blade flies forward as a projectile
Down= Barrier= creates a psychic wall of energy right in front of himself; each wall is as tall as Mewtwo, half as strong as a normal shield, and there can be only 2 on the field at a time
Final Smash= Psycho Boost= all opponents are hit with 1 energy blast each; each blast is twice as strong as a full-powered Shadow Ball
Falco
Standard= Gatling Gun= hold B to shoot very rapidly, but it overheats after 3 seconds
Up= Jet Boots= similar to Diddy's Up B, but they can't be knocked off and he goes higher
Side= Sniper Rifle= a powerful, quick shot; takes one second to recover after shooting
Down= Sensor Bomb= plants a bomb that makes a large explosion when touched; can only have one on the field at a time
Final Smash= Arwing= Falco hops into an Arwing and flies towards the screen; a crosshair then appears as if Falco is watching from the Arwing, allowing the player to shoot powerful lasers at opponents for 5 seconds
What do you think?
Very good.
Also, welcome to the forums.
You might want to extend the time a little for Falco's FS, but very good. 11/13
Also, 3 things for anyone who questions Falco's moveset:
1. Yes, I totally made up the Jet Boots, but seriously, when did Fox use his Up or Side specials in the Star Fox games, huh?
2. Falco's FS may seem a lot like Snake's, but I (along with many other people on the old official Nintendo forums) came up with it long before Snake's FS was announced.
3. All of Falco's other moves are weapons straight out of Star Fox Assault, so this is a very possible moveset.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 17, 2008, 07:23:12 PM
You might want to extend the time a little for Falco's FS, but very good. 11/13
With the Arwing's rapid shooting and powerful lasers, I think much more time would be unfair. However, maybe it should be extended a little...
Looks like an intelligent post :) Java edit it in!
1st of all, WHY IS MEWTWO UP THERE? He isn't a clone, all he needs is some tweaking, and he can be a very decent character!
2nd of all, why ISN'T Dr. Mario or Pichu up there, as well as roy and or marth? I ORDER YOU TO ADD THEM AT ONCE!
3rd of all, since Lucas seems to be a LOT like ness, and since Ness WILL return (NO ARGUING), you should put him up there as well. ;)
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 07:29:23 PM
1st of all, WHY IS MEWTWO UP THERE? He isn't a clone, all he needs is some tweaking, and he can be a very decent character!
2nd of all, why ISN'T Dr. Mario or Pichu up there, as well as roy and or marth? I ORDER YOU TO ADD THEM AT ONCE!
3rd of all, since Lucas seems to be a LOT like ness, and since Ness WILL return (NO ARGUING), you should put him up there as well. ;)
To answer you:
1. I know Mewtwo isn't a clone; I just want them to make his moveset a bit more... USEFUL. I mean, i like him and all, but his moveset is so annoyingly terrible.
2. Dr. Mario is just Mario, and he isn't that important, so he shouldn't be in. Pichu, who is totally useless, is definately not in, since Sakurai posted a picture on Smash Bros Dojo with Pikachu in Pichu's old costume, along with a glaringly obvious reference to it underneath. And while Marth should be in, Roy should not, since he's not that important (he was only in SSBM for advertising purposes), and there is therefore no need to change Marth's moveset. If Dr. Mario, Pichu, or Roy get in, it should just be as "costme" changes for Mario, Pikachu, and Marth, since that's really all they are now.
3. Lucas is replacing Ness. Deal with it.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 07:29:23 PM
1st of all, WHY IS MEWTWO UP THERE? He isn't a clone, all he needs is some tweaking, and he can be a very decent character!
2nd of all, why ISN'T Dr. Mario or Pichu up there, as well as roy and or marth? I ORDER YOU TO ADD THEM AT ONCE!
3rd of all, since Lucas seems to be a LOT like ness, and since Ness WILL return (NO ARGUING), you should put him up there as well. ;)
To answer you:
1. I know Mewtwo isn't a clone; I just want them to make his moveset a bit more... USEFUL. I mean, i like him and all, but his moveset is so annoyingly terrible.
2. Dr. Mario is just Mario, and he isn't that important, so he shouldn't be in. Pichu, who is totally useless, is definately not in, since Sakurai posted a picture on Smash Bros Dojo with Pikachu in Pichu's old costume, along with a glaringly obvious reference to it underneath. And while Marth should be in, Roy should not, since he's not that important (he was only in SSBM for advertising purposes), and there is therefore no need to change Marth's moveset. If Dr. Mario, Pichu, or Roy get in, it should just be as "costme" changes for Mario, Pikachu, and Marth, since that's really all they are now.
3. Lucas is replacing Ness. Deal with it.
>:(
You take that back!
DR. MARIO, PICHU, and NESS ARE AWESOME!
ALSO, Marth was in for advertising as well in the US. I don't think people played much FE back when they saw marth and roy in the US.
Also, JUMPMAN AND MR. NAMCO 4 BRAWL!
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 07:29:23 PM
1st of all, WHY IS MEWTWO UP THERE? He isn't a clone, all he needs is some tweaking, and he can be a very decent character!
2nd of all, why ISN'T Dr. Mario or Pichu up there, as well as roy and or marth? I ORDER YOU TO ADD THEM AT ONCE!
3rd of all, since Lucas seems to be a LOT like ness, and since Ness WILL return (NO ARGUING), you should put him up there as well. ;)
To answer you:
1. I know Mewtwo isn't a clone; I just want them to make his moveset a bit more... USEFUL. I mean, i like him and all, but his moveset is so annoyingly terrible.
2. Dr. Mario is just Mario, and he isn't that important, so he shouldn't be in. Pichu, who is totally useless, is definately not in, since Sakurai posted a picture on Smash Bros Dojo with Pikachu in Pichu's old costume, along with a glaringly obvious reference to it underneath. And while Marth should be in, Roy should not, since he's not that important (he was only in SSBM for advertising purposes), and there is therefore no need to change Marth's moveset. If Dr. Mario, Pichu, or Roy get in, it should just be as "costme" changes for Mario, Pikachu, and Marth, since that's really all they are now.
3. Lucas is replacing Ness. Deal with it.
Fail. :|
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
Also, mewtwo used teleport ALL THE TIME in his two movies!
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
While Psycho Boost is Deoxys' signiture move, he's not playable ( :( ) and his Pokeball move is Hyper Beam, so Mewtwo can borrow it. If not, then Mewtwo could still have the same FS and just call it Psychic, although Psychic isn't that strong in the games.
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 08:06:39 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
Also, mewtwo used teleport ALL THE TIME in his two movies!
But he can't in the games.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 08:06:39 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
Also, mewtwo used teleport ALL THE TIME in his two movies!
But he can't in the games.
But he can in the movies.
So we all agree that he can use it, correct?
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:08:50 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
While Psycho Boost is Deoxys' signiture move, he's not playable ( :( ) and his Pokeball move is Hyper Beam, so Mewtwo can borrow it. If not, then Mewtwo could still have the same FS and just call it Psychic, although Psychic isn't that strong in the games.
Yeah...Psychic IS Mewtwo's signature move...he utilizes it the best and makes it look stronger than when the other pokemon use it...he can lift like anything with his mind and toss it like 1000 feet! I think his FS should be that you can lift up the players and smash them against stuff to cause damege! ;)
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 08:10:54 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on January 17, 2008, 08:06:39 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 17, 2008, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on January 17, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
That was good, but Pshycho Boost is Deoxys's move and Mewtwo cant learn it :P
If you're a Pokemon fan like me, you'd know that Pikachu can't learn Skull Bash, Squirtle's Withdraw is a defensive move, Mewtwo can't learn Teleport, and Pika's "Thunder Jolt" isn't even a real move.
This is Smash, not real Pokemon.
(also, Deoxys isn't the only one who learns Psycho Boost--Lugia also knows it)
Ya, I know that, im just saying that Psycho Boost is Deoxys's signature move...and Pikachu can learn skull bash with a TM from yellow, red, or blue! Gotcha there ;)
And welcome to the forums! Im brandon! :)
Also, mewtwo used teleport ALL THE TIME in his two movies!
But he can't in the games.
But he can in the movies.
So we all agree that he can use it, correct?
Ya, he was based more from the movies than the games anyway...
for young link i think the ballad of gales should just cause a huge tornado around you
I agree with all those movesets! good job! And welcome to my the forums!:)
HOWEVER
You never doubt Ness! >:(
Great! I would change the sensor bomb to a remote-detonator, pressing down-B again would detonate it =D.