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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:59:33 PM

Title: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:59:33 PM
online play is fine. if you think otherwise, nintendo is just getting started with it. you won't find a nintendo game thath has better online than brawl. and don't say they didn't try to make it better, cause they did. they don't have the resources that Xbox (microsoft) has, so it's not really they're fault. Another reason why Xbox's online is so good is cuz they don't have any handheld systems to make games and spend money for. Nintendo still has the DS and rarely the Gamecube (madden 08). and voice chat isn't important to them right now, they're still getting the hang of wi-fi. so stop complaining. it's annoying.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: ThePowerOfOne on March 18, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
People always have to whine about something. They can never just be happy with what they have. So you can't talk to people, big whoop, cry me a river. You should be happy the game even has wi-fi.

I, personally, love the wi-fi. Its fun to fight with my friends using it. And its good enough for me. I don't get why people just want more, more, more. There is no such thing as perfect.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
exactly. i notice how people are always saying the game could have been better. the frustrating thing is, no matter how perferct the game is there is always going to be people (*cough-geno-cough*) that criticize the game. Most video game fanatics are spoiled with Xbox live. I don't even have wi-fi at all. having wi-fi and having reasonable gameplay online is good enough for me. i don't need all these extra and unnescessary luxuries that people are complaining about not being in. for those of you who won't stop complaining, you should be thankful they even gave brawl online play. they could have easily forgotten about it, but instead they worked even harder to get it in the game. that's most likely one of the reasons the game was delayed.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Apollo on March 18, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
well i dont like to complain but it took be like 15 minutes for a coop match with SWW7 that literally shouldve taken 2 seconds to dash off the screen
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 02:32:01 PM
That post was full of so much fail i think my eyes melted.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Oren on March 18, 2008, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
People always have to whine about something. They can never just be happy with what they have. So you can't talk to people, big whoop, cry me a river. You should be happy the game even has wi-fi.

I, personally, love the wi-fi. Its fun to fight with my friends using it. And its good enough for me. I don't get why people just want more, more, more. There is no such thing as perfect.
your so right...
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 02:56:08 PM
Brawl Wi-Fi... how can I describe it?

A failure.
It didn't take advantage of the one time in Nintendo's history that it could beat out Microsoft.

It could have been the best Online experience from Nintendo ever.
But it wasn't.

To say they didnt have time or money is complete Bull****. They had over a year, and look at all the fantastic composed music, content, and such?
They are an extremely rich company, and its not like they couldn't have done something big. They played it safe and now we have all these problems.

The servers are crap, the connection is junk, and the overall experience is unsatisfying. Could pay and play fix this? Maybe, but we won't know for some time... all we can do is hope Nintendo realizes its priorities.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: DistantWords on March 18, 2008, 03:01:25 PM
Um...  Sorry, but no.

Let's take a good hard look at the "With Anyone" option, shall we?

Can you see the name of the person you are matched against?  No.
Can you communicate in any way, shape or form, even if it's just pre-selected phrases?  No.
Can you see any stats at ALL on the person you are matched against?  No.
Are there even any records of any random matches?  Far as I know, No.

Finally, can you even tell, with absolute certainty, that ANYONE you are playing, is in fact a real live person?  No.

I haven't played Strikers Charged, but I've read that even that game had online leaderboards for the random matches, and random matches were based on your stats vs. their stats (meaning, actual records of online matches, even if they ARE with random people).

I'm sorry, but the online mode for Brawl seems to be a step BACK from Strikers Charged.  That's not an improvement in my opinion...

Also, what exactly is the point of betting coins on random battles you're just watching?  You have NO clue who is controlling each character...  Any one of them could be a master, or a first time player, for all you know.  And if they all happen to pick the same character, you're pretty much screwed trying to bet on one (for fun I've watched a few battles, and one, I kid you not, was 4 Pikachus).

The preceding were the views of myself, and myself alone....
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 18, 2008, 03:14:18 PM
Nintendo has shown that they can do somewhat decent online play.

Metroid Prime: Hunters, Super Mario Strikers: Charged, and MKDS. I don't mind the lack of voice chat in most games but seriously Nintendo intercourse ed up online play with smash.

Also, tiblar is an idiot.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 18, 2008, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 18, 2008, 03:01:25 PM
Um...  Sorry, but no.

Let's take a good hard look at the "With Anyone" option, shall we?

Can you see the name of the person you are matched against?  No.
Can you communicate in any way, shape or form, even if it's just pre-selected phrases?  No.
Can you see any stats at ALL on the person you are matched against?  No.
Are there even any records of any random matches?  Far as I know, No.

Finally, can you even tell, with absolute certainty, that ANYONE you are playing, is in fact a real live person?  No.

I haven't played Strikers Charged, but I've read that even that game had online leaderboards for the random matches, and random matches were based on your stats vs. their stats (meaning, actual records of online matches, even if they ARE with random people).

I'm sorry, but the online mode for Brawl seems to be a step BACK from Strikers Charged.  That's not an improvement in my opinion...

Also, what exactly is the point of betting coins on random battles you're just watching?  You have NO clue who is controlling each character...  Any one of them could be a master, or a first time player, for all you know.  And if they all happen to pick the same character, you're pretty much screwed trying to bet on one (for fun I've watched a few battles, and one, I kid you not, was 4 Pikachus).

The preceding were the views of myself, and myself alone....
This post sums it all up.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: SkyMyl on March 18, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
Wow, thanks for saying that (No sarcasm.)!

I personally hate the no Names thing. That's the only thing. Plus they could've added a Rival Feature.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Zora Link on March 18, 2008, 04:42:15 PM
apparantly you haven't gotten D/Ced every time you try to play someone.
Yes, this wi-fi would be the best ever, if it worked.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Doodle on March 18, 2008, 04:54:58 PM
I think it's pretty cool! The only problem I have is the slight lag. The voice chat would be cool, but I don't really NEED it. And besides, phones and stuff make me sound girlish. :P
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: ThePowerOfOne on March 18, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
You don't need to know anybody's name or talk to them. Its a fighting game, you fight, not talk. And the online works just fine for me.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 18, 2008, 05:40:33 PM
It's alirght...with Firends. Firends is okay if you have a decent connection, otherwise the online fails massively. Only one game option for online, no names, no chat, NO NOTHING!
Like HTA and Geno said, it was Nintendo's one big chance to prove they're the dominant system, and they blew it. Is voice chat with friends too much to ask for? Apparently so. And don't say they didn't have time or money. Nintendo is the third wealthiest company in Japan, and Brawl got over TWICE the development time than Melee.
Basically, it's Nintendo's unwillingness to do anything. Also, don't use the "free" junk as an excuse. PS3 has free online and that is infinatley better than Nintendo's online. At least we get minor text for Mario Kart...but more people are going to play Brawl longer.
We can always hope for Smash 4 right? :P
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
You don't need to know anybody's name or talk to them. Its a fighting game, you fight, not talk. And the online works just fine for me.

That was.....lol I can't contain it.

Why the HELL does Halo need voice chat then?

Oh, I don't know, to enhance the gameplay?
DO NOT try and make it sound like this online is decent, or even acceptable.
Its not.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: ThePowerOfOne on March 18, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
You don't need to know anybody's name or talk to them. Its a fighting game, you fight, not talk. And the online works just fine for me.

That was.....lol I can't contain it.

Why the HELL does Halo need voice chat then?

Oh, I don't know, to enhance the gameplay?
DO NOT try and make it sound like this online is decent, or even acceptable.
Its not.
Then don't play. Its spoiled people like you i'm talking about that want more, more, more.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 18, 2008, 05:52:27 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
You don't need to know anybody's name or talk to them. Its a fighting game, you fight, not talk. And the online works just fine for me.

That was.....lol I can't contain it.

Why the HELL does Halo need voice chat then?

Oh, I don't know, to enhance the gameplay?
DO NOT try and make it sound like this online is decent, or even acceptable.
Its not.
Then don't play. Its spoiled people like you i'm talking about that want more, more, more.
Apparently you've never played Xbox Live...
jeezus simple voice chat with friends shouldn't be too much to ask for X_X;;
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 18, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
You don't need to know anybody's name or talk to them. Its a fighting game, you fight, not talk. And the online works just fine for me.

That was.....lol I can't contain it.

Why the HELL does Halo need voice chat then?

Oh, I don't know, to enhance the gameplay?
DO NOT try and make it sound like this online is decent, or even acceptable.
Its not.
Then don't play. Its spoiled people like you i'm talking about that want more, more, more.
Spoiled?
This is my first online game EVER.

And quiet frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the online turned people away from Ninty.
We aren't asking for more more more, we are asking for what was expected and they failed to deliver.

Saying "be glad we got it at all!" is bull*** because it was a given that the game would have Wi-Fi.
Should I be happy it lags constantly?
Or that the servers are basically internet death traps?

What if you had no Nsider?
And no Friend Codes to share? I would be pretty mad off, more than now, at the sad sate of random play and how its basically computers with different colored icons.

On X-Box, you have interaction. On Wii you have nothing. Not to bolster X-Box, but its the best online experience period and Brawl needs to step up.

And yet, I have Nsider so I'm content. The Friend system is okay, but still disgraceful to Smash.

Case closed.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your poopty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 18, 2008, 06:22:43 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.
u could always limit voice chat to friends only X_X;;
What trial and error? Just copy Xbox Live and you're golden! That's what Sony is doing and it works pretty well...
Oh, and it was Nintendo's one big chance. Brawl is the last true hardcore experience (and only online one) for a LONG time on the Wii...
oh, and mostly those are 12 year old boys who think they're cool just because they suckered their parents into buying an Xbox for them....
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
If I were really serious,
I would want the best experience possible.

Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
If I were really serious,
I would want the best experience possible.


but if you didnt get it, that means that everything sucks now?
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
If I were really serious,
I would want the best experience possible.


but if you didnt get it, that means that everything sucks now?

What is this thread on?
Wi-Fi right?

Wi-Fi sucks.
In fact, I believe i said the rest of the game was spectacular.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
my my, this is quite hilarious to watch.
(Lurking ftw.)
Okay, I don't have Wi-Fi yet.

But from what i'm hearing, it's pretty bad.
Oh well....

Online isn't everything...
I mean i'm having the time of my life playin' brawl.

oh btw, use Skype if you want to talk to your buddies...
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:35:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
If I were really serious,
I would want the best experience possible.


but if you didnt get it, that means that everything sucks now?

What is this thread on?
Wi-Fi right?

Wi-Fi sucks.
In fact, I believe i said the rest of the game was spectacular.
then plz exscuse my last comment.
but seriously, stop complaining about it. its not like you can do anything to change it right now.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:35:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:33:21 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:22:17 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 07:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on March 18, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
Feh. stop being stupid. ever heardof trial and error?
the reason microsoft has good online is cause theyve been doing it for years. as you all whine about the fact that there is no online chatting, do any of you remember playing things like Halo 3 online? all the little 5 year olds screaming in your ear and ruining the experience? do you seriously want that with brawl? Stop saying that this was nintendos big chance and they missed it. You honestly think this will be the lat smash? sure, sakurai might not make the next one, but nintendo will do it. Maybe they will add your s***ty little voice chat. maybe they will add your stupid leaderboard. maybe they will allow people to see your name. honestly. who cares about the name of someone probably living in another country? give me a break. Let nintendo work out the bugs. stop whining about it. if it bothers you so much, just dont play. seriously. be happy that this even came with wifi you greedy little bastards.

Wow...

HOW MANY COPIES OF BRAWL DID THEY SELL?

Over 1 Million correct? So this was the big chance, the big show. Did you know that before Sakurai stepped in, Brawl was going to be Melee with Online.
So, now that you get all this brand new content... we still have no online worth using unless you go to a forum etc.

We aren't greedy in the least. We waited 7 years, and we get this.
And Nintendo has had online for what? 3 years?

There is no trial and error. There is Nintendo trying to protect its family friendly image. And in the process, it kills anyone who were serious about Brawl and really wanted a good experience. Nintendo is basically saying why put in the effort when they know the game will sell well.

The problem is we know they can do better, and guess what with Pay and Play on the way it may well happen. But you can;t say anything to make this alright. Its a spectacular game, but the online needs work. Disagree with he last sentence, and I'll know you are mentally unstable.

Ah... brings back memories of the old days....
if you are really serious you wouldnt let something like this ruin your experience
and yes. i knew brawl was gonna be melee with online
If I were really serious,
I would want the best experience possible.


but if you didnt get it, that means that everything sucks now?

What is this thread on?
Wi-Fi right?

Wi-Fi sucks.
In fact, I believe i said the rest of the game was spectacular.
then plz exscuse my last comment.
but seriously, stop complaining about it. its not like you can do anything to change it right now.

I am just trying to stop people from acting like it is amazing.
Its fun, but not that good.

But more than complain, we are thinking of new possibilities.
Nice talking with you.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Use Skype peoples..::)
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 18, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Use Skype peoples..::)
What?
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Use Skype peoples..::)
What?

you don't know what skype is?
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^

I lol'd.
XD
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 19, 2008, 04:36:07 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Use Skype peoples..::)
What?

you don't know what skype is?
Nope
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 04:45:45 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
In fact, lets add only two of the more wanted characters and make all the REAL wanted characters ATs! BRILLIANT!

Oh, and HTA, Skype is an online networking system that uses voice chat. (Think webcam but voice only in a sense)
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 05:01:06 AM
also, they had geno in the game probably at one point, but geno's company was being stupid so they couldn't get him in. that is believed to be a reason for the first delay.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 05:02:14 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.
In case you haven't noticed, the Wii is technologically superior to the origional Xbox (which still has a better online than Nintendo).
The server problems Nintendo's been having is just due to extreme laziness and/or uncaring on Nintendo's part. Apparently they thought they only needed serves to hold all of ten people or something.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 19, 2008, 08:37:59 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.
That isn't true at all. Nintendo has enough resources to create a decent online experience. It's just they choose not to. Why? Because they don't care about the hardcore gamer audience anymore.

As I said before, they intercourse ed up on this one.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Java on March 19, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
I would have loved for Brawl to have Voice Chat even if it was for Friends Only.

Everytime I want to play Brawl with my brother who lives across the country, I have to CALL him and talk to him through the phone.


Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 19, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on March 19, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
I would have loved for Brawl to have Voice Chat even if it was for Friends Only.

Everytime I want to play Brawl with my brother who lives across the country, I have to CALL him and talk to him through the phone.



Friends only voice chat would be fine. It would be much better if you could use voice chat with the "With anyone" feature. Voice chat with friends would make it a little more decent.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Java on March 19, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 19, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on March 19, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
I would have loved for Brawl to have Voice Chat even if it was for Friends Only.

Everytime I want to play Brawl with my brother who lives across the country, I have to CALL him and talk to him through the phone.



Friends only voice chat would be fine. It would be much better if you could use voice chat with the "With anyone" feature. Voice chat with friends would make it a little more decent.
I really wouldn't care if it wasn't for "With Anyone"
I'm not into the whole talking to complete strangers thing.  :-\
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 11:42:11 AM
I've never really cared about voice chat myself...  It would be cool with people I actually know in real life, people I don't get to actually see that often (getting older's a ninny once you and all your friends get families of their/your own and can't find one day a month to get together).

But, don't really care to with total strangers.  I don't need to hear 12 year olds dropping F bombs every two seconds just to sound cool.

But that's why a GOOD online system would, I dunno, allow you to turn that feature OFF if you didn't like it....  And at least offer it to those who DO...
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 19, 2008, 11:43:15 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on March 19, 2008, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 19, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on March 19, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
I would have loved for Brawl to have Voice Chat even if it was for Friends Only.

Everytime I want to play Brawl with my brother who lives across the country, I have to CALL him and talk to him through the phone.



Friends only voice chat would be fine. It would be much better if you could use voice chat with the "With anyone" feature. Voice chat with friends would make it a little more decent.
I really wouldn't care if it wasn't for "With Anyone"
I'm not into the whole talking to complete strangers thing.  :-\
I know that it makes it more interesting as shown on Xbox Live.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Triforceman22 on March 19, 2008, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 19, 2008, 04:36:07 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on March 18, 2008, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on March 18, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
Use Skype peoples..::)
What?

you don't know what skype is?
Nope

it's a program where you can talk to your friends over a microphone...
You don't need online talk when you got Skype...XD
btw, it's a website...

I can't belive you didn't know...
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
what do you mean they don't have rescources? They have PLENTY of rescources! How else could they make the Wiimote so able to detect motions? Online shouldn't be something this hard for them. Sony was a tv/video playback company, and don't necessarily have the "computer" backround that Microsoft does, and they're doing alright for themselves online. Nintendo is just too stubborn to do anything, and for some reason want to keep their kiddy image X_X;;
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
what do you mean they don't have rescources? They have PLENTY of rescources! How else could they make the Wiimote so able to detect motions? Online shouldn't be something this hard for them. Sony was a tv/video playback company, and don't necessarily have the "computer" backround that Microsoft does, and they're doing alright for themselves online. Nintendo is just too stubborn to do anything, and for some reason want to keep their kiddy image X_X;;
naryman, nintendo has lots of resources, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is that xbox 360/live has more online/wi-fi resources (microsoft/bill gates)  and that's why xbox has tackled the online factor faster than nintendo.
bottom line: Xbox concentrates on online play
Nintendo concentrates on making great games. in the long run Nintendo is better. They just started doing online with the DS and the Wii so they're still working on it.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 19, 2008, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
what do you mean they don't have rescources? They have PLENTY of rescources! How else could they make the Wiimote so able to detect motions? Online shouldn't be something this hard for them. Sony was a tv/video playback company, and don't necessarily have the "computer" backround that Microsoft does, and they're doing alright for themselves online. Nintendo is just too stubborn to do anything, and for some reason want to keep their kiddy image X_X;;
naryman, nintendo has lots of resources, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is that xbox 360/live has more online/wi-fi resources (microsoft/bill gates)  and that's why xbox has tackled the online factor faster than nintendo.
bottom line: Xbox concentrates on online play
Nintendo concentrates on making great games. in the long run Nintendo is better. They just started doing online with the DS and the Wii so they're still working on it.
Um no.
Microsoft has had experience, but Nintendo is not "just starting out"
That is ludicrous.
They have had online ever since MKDS and they are just being stubborn.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:46:02 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
what do you mean they don't have rescources? They have PLENTY of rescources! How else could they make the Wiimote so able to detect motions? Online shouldn't be something this hard for them. Sony was a tv/video playback company, and don't necessarily have the "computer" backround that Microsoft does, and they're doing alright for themselves online. Nintendo is just too stubborn to do anything, and for some reason want to keep their kiddy image X_X;;
naryman, nintendo has lots of resources, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is that xbox 360/live has more online/wi-fi resources (microsoft/bill gates)  and that's why xbox has tackled the online factor faster than nintendo.
bottom line: Xbox concentrates on online play
Nintendo concentrates on making great games. in the long run Nintendo is better. They just started doing online with the DS and the Wii so they're still working on it.
I guess "starting out" takes three years then, cuz that's how long MKDS has been out...
More like "Nintendo doesn't give a crap about what gamers REALLY want". Lets see, we get our big three and Smash, still no great online, and now after brawl almost nothing to look forward too X_X;;
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: HTA! on March 19, 2008, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:46:02 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 19, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Quote from: Geno on March 18, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Hi, I'm Nintendo.

Let's make online play for Brawl. ^_^

We should make it so people can add friends by exchanging long codes so that pedos cant get to the 10 year olds that make up for 99% of the gaming population ^_^

Also, we should ditch voice chat. Gamers are anti social and don't like communicating ^_^

Also, let's ignore the fact that everyone wants Geno in Brawl. WE'LL ADD R.O.B. INSTEAD! ^_^
for the last time, nintendo doesn't hve access to the technology xbox (microsoft) has, and they're just starting out. they can't just give voice chat to a game. they got to do that to the Wii that we have.

On what exactly are you basing these statements?  That Nintendo is lacking resources?  Nintnedo is a HUGE company, that thanks to the Wii and DS is doing VERY well for themselves.  There are a TON of things that they could do with the Wii right now but have chosen not to so far. Just because they haven't done something, doesn't mean they CAN'T.

The DS has voice chat for crying out loud.  Are you telling all of us that you think the DS is more technologically advanced than the Wii?

A headset could have easily been made that would plug into the Wii Remote, just like the Nunchuck and Classic Controller, leaving a slot on the back to plug in a Nunhuck or Classic Controller.

Nintendo has FAR more recources at their disposal that you seem willing to give them credit for.  And I'd love to know where you're getting these ideas.

The ONLY thing they don't have that say Microsoft has is the same first hand experience.  But that has never stopped Nintendo before...
what i'm saying is that nintendo doesn't have as much resources as the Xbox 360, because xbox has microsoft, the most succesful computer technology to back them up. nintendo doesn't have that, and that's why their online isn't as good as xbox live yet.
what do you mean they don't have rescources? They have PLENTY of rescources! How else could they make the Wiimote so able to detect motions? Online shouldn't be something this hard for them. Sony was a tv/video playback company, and don't necessarily have the "computer" backround that Microsoft does, and they're doing alright for themselves online. Nintendo is just too stubborn to do anything, and for some reason want to keep their kiddy image X_X;;
naryman, nintendo has lots of resources, don't get me wrong. what i'm saying is that xbox 360/live has more online/wi-fi resources (microsoft/bill gates)  and that's why xbox has tackled the online factor faster than nintendo.
bottom line: Xbox concentrates on online play
Nintendo concentrates on making great games. in the long run Nintendo is better. They just started doing online with the DS and the Wii so they're still working on it.
I guess "starting out" takes three years then, cuz that's how long MKDS has been out...
More like "Nintendo doesn't give a crap about what gamers REALLY want". Lets see, we get our big three and Smash, still no great online, and now after brawl almost nothing to look forward too X_X;;
MKW in a month =)
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: DistantWords on March 19, 2008, 02:32:52 PM
You know, this is kind of a pointless thread.  I could go over to some scientific web site and post over and over and over again that Stephen Hawkings has an IQ of 2.  But you know what?  Saying something over and over again doesn't make it any more true...

The FACT is that Nintendo COULD have provided a better online service.  They didn't need ANY more recources or experience than they already have.

Voice Chat...  Let's see, they have that on the DS.  So you CANNOT tell me they can't have it on the Wii.

No mic?  Who needs a mic attatchment?  The Wii CAN in fact connect to the DS.  Use the DS as the mic/headset...  You only need one Wii Remote to play online....
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 19, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
I'm laughing so hard at Tibar's fanboyism.

"Nintendo concentrates on making great games. in the long run Nintendo is better. They just started doing online with the DS and the Wii so they're still working on it. "

The fanboyism is killing me :P
Just randomly he says they are better when we're talking about online play.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Kaz on March 19, 2008, 08:59:12 PM
Uh...of course people will still criticize it. If you're so defensive that you can't stand to see something criticized when you think it's good, you might as well give up on reviews entirely.

We reserve the right to say whatever the intercourse  we want about the game. We can criticize it if we want. And you know what? It's true that it could've been better. So why whine about people who complain about that? They're right.

In short: get over it.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Geno on March 19, 2008, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 19, 2008, 08:59:12 PM
Uh...of course people will still criticize it. If you're so defensive that you can't stand to see something criticized when you think it's good, you might as well give up on reviews entirely.

We reserve the right to say whatever the intercourse  we want about the game. We can criticize it if we want. And you know what? It's true that it could've been better. So why whine about people who complain about that? They're right.

In short: get over it.
Kaz wins.
Title: Re: Stop Complaining About Online Play!
Post by: Macawmoses on March 19, 2008, 09:03:06 PM
Stop complaining about people complaining about online play.

Quote from: Geno on March 19, 2008, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Kazooie-Banjo on March 19, 2008, 08:59:12 PM
Uh...of course people will still criticize it. If you're so defensive that you can't stand to see something criticized when you think it's good, you might as well give up on reviews entirely.

We reserve the right to say whatever the f*** we want about the game. We can criticize it if we want. And you know what? It's true that it could've been better. So why whine about people who complain about that? They're right.

In short: get over it.
Kaz wins.