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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: Macawmoses on June 22, 2008, 11:17:26 PM

Poll
Question: So?
Option 1: Yes votes: 17
Option 2: No votes: 5
Title: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 22, 2008, 11:17:26 PM
Do you guys really want Sakurai to make another game, or, do you want to put faith in Ninty. Just curious, as before Brawl came out, the vote was nearly unanimous, is it still?
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 22, 2008, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 22, 2008, 11:17:26 PM
Do you guys really want Sakurai to make another game, or, do you want to put faith in Ninty. Just curious, as before Brawl came out, the vote was nearly unanimous, is it still?
And by Unanimous, you mean that the majority atleast wanted Sakurai to make another SSB's game right?

Well, because I bought the Wrong Lan adapter AND My Nintendo Wii doesn't work correctly Anymore, I officially hate Nintendo, and man...they better fix my Wii very Quickly or heads will Roll when I call NOA and tell them about my Wiittle problem.  :robotangry:


If Sakurai makes another game, I hope he Heeds the wants and desires of Smash fans everywhere what they truly want.

And as the floated thread here stating how we truly feel about SSBB in general, I hope he takes our negative aspects of the game and Truly make SSB a game of a systems lifetime.
Because after all, our complaints are just few of many.
I don't think Nintendo will listen.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 22, 2008, 11:58:00 PM
Yes, many, many, voted for the fact they wanted Sakurai to do another. Think it was....90% or so. Which is a lot. So far, 100% now/
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 12:01:05 AM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 22, 2008, 11:58:00 PM
Yes, many, many, voted for the fact they wanted Sakurai to do another. Think it was....90% or so. Which is a lot. So far, 100% now/
Sakurai make the 1st 2 games... and they love what he done...
Of course most people would vote for him...
question is Will he despite it all?

Surly making the game was difficult, but is he really willing to do it again?
He's trying to do other things....
And he didn't really seem interested in making another game.
*Could be wrong*

Anyway-, anybody else who makes a SSB...it just won't feel the same, and going by how Nintendo fans are, they WILL Complain about it, no matter what.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 12:02:43 AM
To be honest, Retro, GameFreak, Monolith, etc are all capable of making great games, I think they could make a  Smash title.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Playat on June 23, 2008, 05:32:02 AM
I think I want Ninty to make one more SSB game but Sakurai gonna have to be supervisor of the development or something
Title: Re: So
Post by: Depster on June 23, 2008, 05:59:40 AM
No, I want decent wifi
Title: Re: So
Post by: SkyMyl on June 23, 2008, 07:29:56 AM
Another one is something I've wanted for sometime, preferably a portable one. Because of several reasons we all know about. Thing is that is has to support Wi-Fi properly, along with Wireless. That's all I want. ;D
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
id rather have someone else make the game from now on
he really disgusted me with a few things that he did in brawl and he just doesnt seem to get it at times
either he learns his lesson or steps aside for a new creator
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
id rather have someone else make the game from now on
he really disgusted me with a few things that he did in brawl and he just doesnt seem to get it at times
either he learns his lesson or steps aside for a new creator
Like what?

And do you think somebody else can do it better then he can?
Title: Re: So
Post by: Triforceman22 on June 23, 2008, 08:20:26 AM
I still would want good ol' Sakurai to make the fourth smash.
But if he doesn't, i'm sure Nintendo can find someone else to to do it.
Maybe have Sakurai work on it too, but not as the lead designer.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
id rather have someone else make the game from now on
he really disgusted me with a few things that he did in brawl and he just doesnt seem to get it at times
either he learns his lesson or steps aside for a new creator
Like what?

And do you think somebody else can do it better then he can?
im only going to name my top 3 least favorite things about brawl cause i have so many
dont get me wrong its a good game but im starting to think id rather have melee online instead
1. target test has been completely ruined
2. completely aimed towards a noobish crowd (that covers a lot of things. ex. tripping)
3. wolf is the last unlockable (really gets to me) a lot of people first cried over a poor selection of characters but overall im happy with it.  wolf does not deserve to be in this game. he is a nobody and is not even the first choice for starfox characters. on top of that they gave him the last spot which was supossed to excite us. i can name a dozen or two characters right now that would be better and more unique than another star fox character.

yes i think many people can do it better
with the intent of fulfilling the fan base it shouldnt be that hard.
rather than drawing the 5 year olds who just got their wiis for christmas, the game should be sharp and aimed towards fans who love fighting games.
i believe that if another designer came forth and took over, they would not have trouble completing a successful ssb. as for sakurai, we can never tell if he has learned from his mistakes or not. (moving stages lol)  if the team starts from the drawing board or from the melee style then i believe they could make a game better than melee.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 04:29:04 PM
Sakurai: Included Sonic, Ike, and many wanted characters, and smart enough to use AT's to get people in it. Also wanted VOCIE CHAT.
Nintnendo: Hates online and hates anything that gives fans waht it wants.

Lets see, I'll go with Sakurai X_X;;
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
Wolf is a nobody?! Oh boy, don't get me started.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
Wolf is a nobody?! Oh boy, don't get me started.
4th highest in most important Star Fox ppl:
Fox, Falco, Andross, Wolf...
Although Krystal would've been much more unique with the staff IMO. And if Falco prefers the air, why does he have a LANDmaster?
Title: Re: So
Post by: SkyMyl on June 23, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
id rather have someone else make the game from now on
he really disgusted me with a few things that he did in brawl and he just doesnt seem to get it at times
either he learns his lesson or steps aside for a new creator
Like what?

And do you think somebody else can do it better then he can?
im only going to name my top 3 least favorite things about brawl cause i have so many
dont get me wrong its a good game but im starting to think id rather have melee online instead
1. target test has been completely ruined Yup.
2. completely aimed towards a noobish crowd (that covers a lot of things. ex. tripping) Well, parts of the game were.
3. wolf is the last unlockable (really gets to me) a lot of people first cried over a poor selection of characters but overall im happy with it.  wolf does not deserve to be in this game. he is a nobody and is not even the first choice for starfox characters. ................................
You sir, deserve to die.

Okay, I'll admit that while he's awesome, the second clone of a character been cloned once is extremely redundant.

But Fox is better.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
Wolf is a nobody?! Oh boy, don't get me started.
4th highest in most important Star Fox ppl:
Fox, Falco, Andross, Wolf...
Although Krystal would've been much more unique with the staff IMO. And if Falco prefers the air, why does he have a LANDmaster?
Wolf is probably higher than Andross, possibly Falco, by all rights. If they tried, all 3 could have co-existed, and had unique moves.

ie.

Fox Final: Great Assault

ROB64 comes on screen, and yellow blasts start falling down on the stage.

Falco Final: To The Skies

Think Snake's final here, yet add a constantly more powerful blast, and moving toward the stage. As well as speed of the move.

Wolf Final: Star Wolf's Revenge

Wolf still moves around like the tank he is, while Leon and and Panther fly around loosing blasts that do 10% direct hit, 5% blast. To top it off, their word boxes take up random parts of the screen.


That is just the Finals, there were so many chances D:
Title: Re: So
Post by: SkyMyl on June 23, 2008, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
Wolf is a nobody?! Oh boy, don't get me started.
4th highest in most important Star Fox ppl:
Fox, Falco, Andross, Wolf...
Although Krystal would've been much more unique with the staff IMO. And if Falco prefers the air, why does he have a LANDmaster?
Wolf is probably higher than Andross, possibly Falco, by all rights. If they tried, all 3 could have co-existed, and had unique moves.

ie.

Fox Final: Great Assault

ROB64 comes on screen, and yellow blasts start falling down on the stage.

Falco Final: To The Skies

Think Snake's final here, yet add a constantly more powerful blast, and moving toward the stage. As well as speed of the move.

Wolf Final: Star Wolf's Revenge

Wolf still moves around like the tank he is, while Leon and and Panther fly around loosing blasts that do 10% direct hit, 5% blast. To top it off, their word boxes take up random parts of the screen.


That is just the Finals, there were so many chances D:
I found my versions of the Final Smash.

Wolf's Final Smash: He should contact Team Star Wolf and have them fly into the stage on a Bombing Run (3 Times), and after that, they fly across the screen and launch a Cluster Bomb. (During this timeframe, Wolf activates his Reflector to protect himself)

Falco's Final Smash: Falco hops into his Arwing and flies out of the stage. Then, a targeting reticule appears(Similar to the Dragoon item.). In this phase, you have 6 seconds to attack your opponents with the Arwing's Lasers (A button.) and the Bombs (B button. 3 per FS.) When the six seconds are up, wherever the Targeting Square is on the screen, Falco crashes his Arwing on the spot, launching anyone who was unfortunate enough to be in the crash.

I made these a while back, so they're meh.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 05:01:40 PM
I'm not complaining about Landmaster itslef. For just Fox it was fine. But why did BOTH of them need to ahve it as well?
Falco: ARWING. Faster but less damange than the landmaster (and not inhibited by falling off)
Wolf: Wolfen Assault: Jumps in Wolfen and he and Star Wolf blast the stage.
It's not that Hard Sakurai X_X;;

Wolf isn't more important than Andross. That's like saying Metal Sonic is more important than Robotnik X_X;;
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Itachi on June 23, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
Hell no. I don't like what he did to Brawl, And I can't imagine what he'd to four. And who gives a dang about wolf or andross, if there's a new game you shouldn't care, just be greatfull he even made one.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
Andross was the final boss in two games and frankly the "reason" the series exists.
Wolf is only playable for multiplayer in Star Fox games.
And please we all know Krystal with the staff would be more origional than Wolf is X_X;;
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
I take it you are yet to play the DS installment, because I assure you, you can control Wolf in single player. Wolf played a dominant part in Command, Assault, and 64. Andross played the final boss in 64, Star Fox, and Adventures, and a minor role in Command. Wolf was part of the final boss fight, in 64, if you think about it. Wolf was part of the final level in Assault. In one of the Command endings, well, more, Wolf was playable/dominant. Wolf > Andross
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
I take it you are yet to play the DS installment, because I assure you, you can control Wolf in single player. Wolf played a dominant part in Command, Assault, and 64. Andross played the final boss in 64, Star Fox, and Adventures, and a minor role in Command. Wolf was part of the final boss fight, in 64, if you think about it. Wolf was part of the final level in Assault. In one of the Command endings, well, more, Wolf was playable/dominant. Wolf > Andross
Didn't play much of it.
He wasn't main at all in Assault. Sure he helped a few parts but its not like he was completely necessary. How does two fights make major in 64? Yea he was a good addition but he wasn't "major". I mean, we see Bill twice in the game, does that make him major?
Again, "reason" for series outweighs the few playability sectors he has.
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
I choose blade of grass instead of the robit.
Rivalries are good you say? Then where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
I choose blade of grass instead of the robit.
Rivalries are good you say? Then where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?
Lol, "Blades of Grass" <33
Didn't somebody say, "Blades of Grass for SSBB" on old sider? :D

Well sorry, they couldn't Add every rivalry a character has!
*sighs*
Why couldn't Sakurai did for Sonic/Tails/Knuckles/Shadow like he did for the Pokemon Trainer wth...
And other characters.


You can probably fit 5 characters in 1 character slot. :P
Title: Re: So
Post by: Tupin on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

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Title: Re: So
Post by: DededeCloneChris on June 23, 2008, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
Sir, if I remember, there's no Wolf Adventure 2: Battle. :D
Title: Re: So
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 23, 2008, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
Sir, if I remember, there's no Wolf Adventure 2: Battle. :D
As in Character Roster Rivalry.  :robotindifferent:
Title: Re: So
Post by: DededeCloneChris on June 23, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 23, 2008, 05:53:59 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
Wolf is more prominent, playable, and recognized. I'd say he is.
I happen to Agree.

People people, you HAVE to think about Rivalry.

Sonic Wario is to Mario as in Wolf is to Fox.
Plain and simple.
Whether people realize it or not, but in the Roster, rivalry is Always a plus.
Everybody would love to see Rivalry between characters of the same game,
or even different games.

I like wolf, and his play style (except his blasted Fire wolf recovery, bleh!).

Add a reflector with quick attacks + a stun gun and a good "Bair", (just to say a few)
Wolf is something to be reckoned  with.
And his Land master is better then Fox and Falcos.
Except you move the analog stick a half inch, Wolfs land master goes 5 miles in That direction.
~_~

*also...

Wolf  > R.O.B. For unexpected character/most wanted.

I mean, Choose, Wolf or R.O.B.
(for example)
Sir, if I remember, there's no Wolf Adventure 2: Battle. :D
As in Character Roster Rivalry.  :robotindifferent:
Oh then...fixed, characters with a W in their names are evil.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

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I meant PLAYABLE!
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on June 23, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 23, 2008, 07:52:11 AM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
id rather have someone else make the game from now on
he really disgusted me with a few things that he did in brawl and he just doesnt seem to get it at times
either he learns his lesson or steps aside for a new creator
Like what?

And do you think somebody else can do it better then he can?
im only going to name my top 3 least favorite things about brawl cause i have so many
dont get me wrong its a good game but im starting to think id rather have melee online instead
1. target test has been completely ruined Yup.
2. completely aimed towards a noobish crowd (that covers a lot of things. ex. tripping) Well, parts of the game were.
3. wolf is the last unlockable (really gets to me) a lot of people first cried over a poor selection of characters but overall im happy with it.  wolf does not deserve to be in this game. he is a nobody and is not even the first choice for starfox characters. ................................
You sir, deserve to die.

Okay, I'll admit that while he's awesome, the second clone of a character been cloned once is extremely redundant.

But Fox is better.
i love fox and falco
glad to see them back
wolf no
wolf doesnt even have potential for alternate moves
slippy wouldve been my first choice with high jump and arsenal of grenades
hell, everyone wanted krystal but nooooo
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:37:47 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 23, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 04:37:26 PM
Wolf is a nobody?! Oh boy, don't get me started.
4th highest in most important Star Fox ppl:
Fox, Falco, Andross, Wolf...
Although Krystal would've been much more unique with the staff IMO. And if Falco prefers the air, why does he have a LANDmaster?
wolf isnt THAT important
krystal or slippy wouldve been better
even better, how bout no more star fox characters and maybe an AC rep
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

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thankyou
rob is a good addition
that was our wtf character
i just think wolf was a waste of space character
as far as ATs, i thought they were highly unoriginal
lots of swordsmen and hell, even shadows is really lame
wheres the floormaster, boo, or chibi-robo?
also: pokemon are ok :-\ but why is it that the graphics for all the returning pokemon all of the sudden SUCK?
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:48:37 PM
final reply:
ultimate conclusion
wolf is a throw in, a waste of time, a filler
he might have been ok if lets say "falco didnt get in"
but lets face it
i love falco, falco users love falco
sakurai did us the loving deed of not taking away our falco
now if per chance fox, falco, and wolf did make it in the game :O
then why do they all have the same moves?
give falco an airborn assault
if sakurai wants to give fox and wolf similar final smashes then go for it
but 3
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 23, 2008, 09:27:41 PM
Quadruple post again and I delete all of your posts on this board <3
Title: Re: So
Post by: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

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thankyou
rob is a good addition
that was our wtf character
i just think wolf was a waste of space character
as far as ATs, i thought they were highly unoriginal
lots of swordsmen and hell, even shadows is really lame
wheres the floormaster, boo, or chibi-robo?
also: pokemon are ok :-\ but why is it that the graphics for all the returning pokemon all of the sudden SUCK?

Because those Pokemon models have been practically the exact same thing since Pokemon Stadium. The only thing that really annoys me is that Sakurai said ACer can't fight and that Ridley would be too big :(
Also, a bunch of the ATs (Goroh, Tingle, Isaac, etc.) could have easily been playable, and they could have had more ATs as well (Eggplant Wizard :D)
And Smash Bros needs ROB. Everyone else is doing it, just ask Mario Kart or Pikmin.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Java on June 23, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

Scattered though out various assist trophies, bosses, stickers, and trophies.
thankyou
rob is a good addition
that was our wtf character
i just think wolf was a waste of space character
as far as ATs, i thought they were highly unoriginal
lots of swordsmen and hell, even shadows is really lame
wheres the floormaster, boo, or chibi-robo?
also: pokemon are ok :-\ but why is it that the graphics for all the returning pokemon all of the sudden SUCK?

Because those Pokemon models have been practically the exact same thing since Pokemon Stadium. The only thing that really annoys me is that Sakurai said ACer can't fight and that Ridley would be too big :(
Also, a bunch of the ATs (Goroh, Tingle, Isaac, etc.) could have easily been playable, and they could have had more ATs as well (Eggplant Wizard :D)
And Smash Bros needs ROB. Everyone else is doing it, just ask Mario Kart or Pikmin.
Actually, Mario Kart wised up and got rid of him. :)
Title: Re: So
Post by: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on June 23, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

Scattered though out various assist trophies, bosses, stickers, and trophies.
thankyou
rob is a good addition
that was our wtf character
i just think wolf was a waste of space character
as far as ATs, i thought they were highly unoriginal
lots of swordsmen and hell, even shadows is really lame
wheres the floormaster, boo, or chibi-robo?
also: pokemon are ok :-\ but why is it that the graphics for all the returning pokemon all of the sudden SUCK?

Because those Pokemon models have been practically the exact same thing since Pokemon Stadium. The only thing that really annoys me is that Sakurai said ACer can't fight and that Ridley would be too big :(
Also, a bunch of the ATs (Goroh, Tingle, Isaac, etc.) could have easily been playable, and they could have had more ATs as well (Eggplant Wizard :D)
And Smash Bros needs ROB. Everyone else is doing it, just ask Mario Kart or Pikmin.
Actually, Mario Kart wised up and got rid of him. :)

Mabye Smash will do the same thing... Take out ROB and replace him with Funky Kong ;D
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 23, 2008, 09:27:41 PM
Quadruple post again and I delete all of your posts on this board <3
sorry
more and more ideas just kept coming to my head
anyways
yaeh rob was a good idea
i thought the AT list was more disappointing than the actual playable list
Title: Re: So
Post by: Java on June 23, 2008, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on June 23, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 23, 2008, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: Apollo on June 23, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 23, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
I would rather have Nintendo EAD make it.

That way, there would be lag free online.

We needed more characters people actually wanted. I mean, come on. Who WANTED R.O.B. in Brawl? No one, that's who. Everyone wanted Geno, Ridley, Sonic, Issac, an Animal Crossing rep, and many, many others.

QuoteThen where the hell is Samurai Goroh, Ridley/any of the Hunters, K.Rool, Vaati, and ISAAC (to combat the Zelda goofballs)?

Scattered though out various assist trophies, bosses, stickers, and trophies.
thankyou
rob is a good addition
that was our wtf character
i just think wolf was a waste of space character
as far as ATs, i thought they were highly unoriginal
lots of swordsmen and hell, even shadows is really lame
wheres the floormaster, boo, or chibi-robo?
also: pokemon are ok :-\ but why is it that the graphics for all the returning pokemon all of the sudden SUCK?

Because those Pokemon models have been practically the exact same thing since Pokemon Stadium. The only thing that really annoys me is that Sakurai said ACer can't fight and that Ridley would be too big :(
Also, a bunch of the ATs (Goroh, Tingle, Isaac, etc.) could have easily been playable, and they could have had more ATs as well (Eggplant Wizard :D)
And Smash Bros needs ROB. Everyone else is doing it, just ask Mario Kart or Pikmin.
Actually, Mario Kart wised up and got rid of him. :)

Mabye Smash will do the same thing... Take out ROB and replace him with Funky Kong ;D
Even better! Baby Daisy for Brawl! :D
Title: Re: So
Post by: .:DL:. on June 24, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
Or how about Rawk Hawk?  He would have been better than Wolf.


I'm not saying Wolf sucks, but I can say about a dozen characters that would have fit in better.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 24, 2008, 03:41:03 PM
1. The only RPG sidekick that deserves to get in is Geno or Mallow. THEM ONLY
2. NO WORTHLESS BABY CHARICTERS! Mario spinoffs are already a flood with them and we all HATE them
3. Wolf isn't out of place, just dunno why Star Fox needs more reps/Krystal would've been more origional
and finally...
4. ROBIT NEEDS TO DIE!
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 24, 2008, 04:01:34 PM
bowser jr is the only mario character that shouldve been in with the exception of maybe geno i guess
there are dozens of other characters i can think of
i cant even believe lucario replaced mewtwo
mewtwos the most powerful pokemon
come oooon
Title: Re: So
Post by: Java on June 24, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 24, 2008, 03:41:03 PM
2. NO WORTHLESS BABY CHARICTERS! Mario spinoffs are already a flood with them and we all HATE them
Could you imagine what would have happened if they had put Baby Daisy in Brawl? :D
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on June 24, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 24, 2008, 03:41:03 PM
2. NO WORTHLESS BABY CHARICTERS! Mario spinoffs are already a flood with them and we all HATE them
Could you imagine what would have happened if they had put Baby Daisy in Brawl? :D
Sakurai would be dead by now...if he put in that piece of trash over the likes of Isaac
Title: Re: So
Post by: Tupin on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...
Title: Re: So
Post by: Avion-Finch on June 25, 2008, 01:23:14 PM
I wouldnt be heartbroken if Sakurai didnt make the fourth, nor if he did, he did make some mistakes with brawl, but its still a good game. I would actually be excited to see one of our other 2nd parties try is out, it would be nice to see what they do with it.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Tupin on June 25, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
Yeah, but as soon as Nintendo got their foot in the door, they got rid of ROB, which is why only two games work with him.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 02:25:51 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
Yeah, but as soon as Nintendo got their foot in the door, they got rid of ROB, which is why only two games work with him.
True, which is why they are trying to bring him back ;D
Wii R.O.B. would be amazing. It wouldn't have to use the honor system anymore!
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
No he didn't....Mario and Duck Hunt did X_X;;
Title: Re: So
Post by: Tupin on June 25, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
No he didn't....Mario and Duck Hunt did X_X;;
No, the NES would have failed if it wasn't for ROB.

After the Video Game Crash, no retailers wanted to carry games anymore. When Nintendo tried to release it in America, they marketed it as, "Oh, it's not a video game system, it's a robot gaming system." The robot was the selling point.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
No he didn't....Mario and Duck Hunt did X_X;;
No, the NES would have failed if it wasn't for ROB.

After the Video Game Crash, no retailers wanted to carry games anymore. When Nintendo tried to release it in America, they marketed it as, "Oh, it's not a video game system, it's a robot gaming system." The robot was the selling point.
and ppl are stupid and bought it. Was was Mario and Duck Hunt which brought gaming BACK. Not that pathetic robit. (there is a REASON it got only two terrible games)
Title: Re: So
Post by: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 05:31:09 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
No he didn't....Mario and Duck Hunt did X_X;;
No, the NES would have failed if it wasn't for ROB.

After the Video Game Crash, no retailers wanted to carry games anymore. When Nintendo tried to release it in America, they marketed it as, "Oh, it's not a video game system, it's a robot gaming system." The robot was the selling point.
and ppl are stupid and bought it. Was was Mario and Duck Hunt which brought gaming BACK. Not that pathetic robit. (there is a REASON it got only two terrible games)
But it wasn't for R.O.B., Mario and Duck Hunt never would have come to the US in the first place. He isn't the most important character out there (which is why he wasn't added until the 3rd Smash) but he was very important to Nintendos success in America. Besides... its a robot!
Title: Re: So
Post by: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 05:37:37 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 05:31:09 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 25, 2008, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
No he didn't....Mario and Duck Hunt did X_X;;
No, the NES would have failed if it wasn't for ROB.

After the Video Game Crash, no retailers wanted to carry games anymore. When Nintendo tried to release it in America, they marketed it as, "Oh, it's not a video game system, it's a robot gaming system." The robot was the selling point.
and ppl are stupid and bought it. Was was Mario and Duck Hunt which brought gaming BACK. Not that pathetic robit. (there is a REASON it got only two terrible games)
But it wasn't for R.O.B., Mario and Duck Hunt never would have come to the US in the first place. He isn't the most important character out there (which is why he wasn't added until the 3rd Smash) but he was very important to Nintendos success in America. Besides... its a robot!
again, cuz American's are stupid. It's not like Nintendo was unheard of X_X;; *coughDonkeyKongandMarioBros.cough*
Well, he's the dumbest robit ever.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Doodle on June 25, 2008, 05:40:05 PM
I don't really care who does, as long as they do a good job and fix some of the negatives in Brawl.
So, I vote yes. :)
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 27, 2008, 07:39:36 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on June 25, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 25, 2008, 01:16:27 PM
Krystal should have been in rather than Wolf. Do we really need THREE blaster using Star Fox reps that have almost exactly the same moves AND have the same Final Smash?

ROB was a terrible addition. When did Sakurai ever think that he had a larger fan base than characters like Geno or Ridley? Everyone agrees that ROB was a terrible peripheral. Even characters like Tom Nook had a larger fan base than ROB...

To be fair, R.O.B. did save video games as we know it (in the US). Without R.O.B., there would be no Smash Bros... mabye. I would rather have Nook, but R.O.B. is just as good a character to add as Mr.G&W.
yeah lets not forget that other characters are really nintendo life changers
pit
but it adds variety and i taste of nintendos lifespan
Title: Re: So
Post by: CommanderFlint on June 28, 2008, 03:00:21 PM
Sakurai, wouldn't mind if someone smart like Itoi or Hideo took over.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 28, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
Kojima coordinating Smash? That'd be interesting.
Title: Re: So
Post by: CommanderFlint on June 28, 2008, 03:05:15 PM
Yay, he'll some how fit all that gameplay in and still have time for cutscenes.
Title: Re: So
Post by: Macawmoses on June 28, 2008, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on June 28, 2008, 03:05:15 PM
Yay, he'll some how fit all that gameplay in and still have time for cutscenes.
*3 hours later*

Oh, so Lucario did find Snake in that box!
Title: Re: So
Post by: Apollo on June 28, 2008, 06:38:04 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on June 28, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
Kojima coordinating Smash? That'd be interesting.
it sounds good to be
ill like change