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Title: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:31:11 PM
They have so many options for games they could make to satisfy us. Here are a few ideas off the top of my head for games and other things that Nintendo could easily make to satisfy the Core gamers.

-Kirby Wii
-Starfox Wii
-Kid Icarus Wii
-Pikmin 3
-Harvest Moon Wii
-Make the Wii play DVD's
-Make an Expandable Memory
-Make a new version of the Gamecube controller and make it an optional controller for most games
-Get rid of friend codes, or make it so the wii code is the only code you need, why do you have to have a different friend code for every game? How are friend codes good? They are basically the same thing as gamer tags, except they are random numbers and allow for no customization.
-Make a good Online FPS
-Make a good online Pokemon game (maybe an mmo)(maybe allow connection to DS)
-Add voice chat (which will be in AC:Wii) to all future online games.
-Basically pick any character from smash brothers brawl and make a new game about them...

When the wii first came out, it seemed all the third party companies where making games that were just a bunch of minigames, or half-baked ideas, using the wii-mote. For awhile we could Rely on Nintendo to make some games to satisfy the Hardcore. But now, all of the nintendo games are games like Wii Sports, Wii Music, and Wii Fit (tho very fun games) they are still not HardCore. Nintendo Can Easily do any or all of the above ideas, and satisfy the Core gamer.

What do you agree, or disagree with, if any of these ideas HAVE been announced tell me, and What do you think Nintendo must do in order to "Redeem" itself?
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose

when was kirby and harvest moon wii confirmed?
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 12:42:01 PM
oh man i cant believe they forgot to tell us something about the memory shortage, and voice chat willmake the game play more fun, and when they release the new zelda game.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose

when was kirby and harvest moon wii confirmed?
Have a look :P

Kirby Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii)

Harvest moon Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility)
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose

when was kirby and harvest moon wii confirmed?
Have a look :P

Kirby Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii)

Harvest moon Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility)

Thanks, Im surprized they didn't mention either of those at e3...
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:54:31 PM
Same here :|

And no problem 8)
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 12:55:07 PM
Harvest moon is one of those games that never end
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: guido123 on July 15, 2008, 12:55:07 PM
Harvest moon is one of those games that never end
Thats why i dislike it so :P
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: metroidhunter777 on July 15, 2008, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose

when was kirby and harvest moon wii confirmed?
Have a look :P

Kirby Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii)

Harvest moon Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility)

From the Kirby Wii wiki, it's details are sketchy, it hasn't been officially announced, and it might not come out of Japan. Plus, that video's been around forever, it's just fan speculation it's been moved to the Wii.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: The Seventh on July 16, 2008, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: metroidhunter777 on July 15, 2008, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose

when was kirby and harvest moon wii confirmed?
Have a look :P

Kirby Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_Wii)

Harvest moon Wii:

Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf7WzTcObe8)

Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_Moon:_Tree_of_Tranquility)

From the Kirby Wii wiki, it's details are sketchy, it hasn't been officially announced, and it might not come out of Japan. Plus, that video's been around forever, it's just fan speculation it's been moved to the Wii.
Of course, just like the Game Boy Light and all that, it's probably going to stay in Japan.  I really want to ask, "WTF, mate?" (that's off a video I watched once).

Hopefully they start making more Hardcore games soon.  Like ones that don't utilize most of the Wii's memory via download.

At least MoH Heroes 2 might give some their hardcore online FPS fix.....   for now.  But they do need to re-release GCN controllers and Memory cards for those that actually own GCN games and need memory or controllers if they break.  Honestly, that's one of my biggest worries right now!  If one of my controllers or memory cards break, how an I (easily) going to get a new one?

And seriously, they NEED to get at least a firmware update to allow direct memory access to the SD cards, and, even better yet, HDD drives.  I mean, they made it so people could use the USB for a keyboard and mouse, but not any of this.

Other than that, I have no complaints.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: extraz on July 17, 2008, 02:39:33 PM
-Kirby Wii

It exists

-Kid Icarus Wii

rumors have to start somewhere so it has to exist

-Harvest Moon Wii

It's been announced

-Make the Wii play DVD's

Why would a red blooded testosterone infused hardcore gamer need to watch movies on a game console? Anyway Nintendo said that it would require more than a software upgrade, they would have to make a new Wii, and it's been rumored to be in consideration.

-Make an Expandable Memory

-Make a new version of the Gamecube controller and make it an optional controller for most games

It's actually up to the developer of the game to make it work on their game. Many Wii games can use the GCN controller and supposedly Nintendo made a white GCN controller with a loooooooooong chord for Japan. So it's just developer laziness that all games don't have the option.

-Get rid of friend codes, or make it so the wii code is the only code you need, why do you have to have a different friend code for every game? How are friend codes good? They are basically the same thing as gamer tags, except they are random numbers and allow for no customization.

Nintendo isn't gonna do it no matter how many people complain

-Make a good Online FPS

Nintendo needs someone to do that for them, it's too bad id hates Nintendo, I'd love an enhanced port of Doom 3

-Make a good online Pokemon game (maybe an mmo)(maybe allow connection to DS)
-Add voice chat (which will be in AC:Wii) to all future online games.
-Basically pick any character from smash brothers brawl and make a new game about them..
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: RevolutionSoldier on August 11, 2008, 08:10:50 PM
Making the wii play dvd's is a non issue at this point. Who dose not have a dvd play now? What nintendo should do is to make a hard drive are at lease let us play VC and Wii ware game straight off our memory cards. Also I would love a new Game Cube controller. One that connects to the wii so you don't have to use the GC ports and also throw in rumble capability.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: QingXin on August 13, 2008, 10:21:56 AM
It would be a big win for me if the WiiSpeak was compatible with Brawl or MK.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: BOSSNIG on August 13, 2008, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose
Every other CoD sucks balls because it isn't made by Infinity Ward.  5 is no exception.The Condiut looks to be promising.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: thunderhero4 on August 13, 2008, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: Darklink on August 13, 2008, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 15, 2008, 12:34:30 PM
There is a Kirby Wii

There is a Harvest Moon Wii

DVDs would be more of a casual gaming thing than core

Memory to be solved soon

I actually wanted the new GC controller too

Friend Codes arent going to leave

Conduit or Call of Duty 5 may solve that

Voice Chat was announced today

And i suppose
Every other CoD sucks balls because it isn't made by Infinity Ward.  5 is no exception.The Condiut looks to be promising.
I actually prefer Medal of Honor games over Call of Duty, but whatever floats your boat i guess... ;D
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 03:52:32 AM
Quote from: evilflame101 on July 15, 2008, 12:31:11 PM
They have so many options for games they could make to satisfy us. Here are a few ideas off the top of my head for games and other things that Nintendo could easily make to satisfy the Core gamers.

-Kirby Wii
-Starfox Wii
-Pikmin 3
-Harvest Moon Wii


of the things you listed, these are the things that Nintendo will do.


and both Starfox and Kirby will once again be mediocre games.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.

we're talking console.

I don't give two poops about starfox.  i hate the series.  AirRide would've been nicer with an actual story mode, but overall it was a great game.


however, how many years ago was that? :|

give us a console kirby game.

also, SFAdventures was good, but far too short with not enough space sequences.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.

we're talking console.

I don't give two s***s about starfox.  i hate the series.  AirRide would've been nicer with an actual story mode, but overall it was a great game.


however, how many years ago was that? :|

give us a console kirby game.

also, SFAdventures was good, but far too short with not enough space sequences.
starfox assault was awesome as long as there's people to play with. same thing with Air Ride. I still play those games and they're still fun.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: Jono2 on August 17, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.

we're talking console.

I don't give two s***s about starfox.  i hate the series.  AirRide would've been nicer with an actual story mode, but overall it was a great game.


however, how many years ago was that? :|

give us a console kirby game.

also, SFAdventures was good, but far too short with not enough space sequences.
starfox assault was awesome as long as there's people to play with. same thing with Air Ride. I still play those games and they're still fun.

Yeah, and I still play Metroid Prime and it's still fun.
I still play SSBM and it's still fun.
I still play Fable and it's still fun.

all three of these have/are getting followups.

the fact that you can still play a game years after its release, and it's still fun, doesn't mean that it isn't time for them to make a new one.

Oh, and by the way,

I still play Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.

and it's still fun.

in fact, it's still more fun than 95% of the games I've ever played.

doesn't mean that I don't want a true followup (YI2 didn't remain true to the art style, and had vastly fluctuating difficulty levels).
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: tibar21 on August 17, 2008, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 17, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.

we're talking console.

I don't give two s***s about starfox.  i hate the series.  AirRide would've been nicer with an actual story mode, but overall it was a great game.


however, how many years ago was that? :|

give us a console kirby game.

also, SFAdventures was good, but far too short with not enough space sequences.
starfox assault was awesome as long as there's people to play with. same thing with Air Ride. I still play those games and they're still fun.

Yeah, and I still play Metroid Prime and it's still fun.
I still play SSBM and it's still fun.
I still play Fable and it's still fun.

all three of these have/are getting followups.

the fact that you can still play a game years after its release, and it's still fun, doesn't mean that it isn't time for them to make a new one.

Oh, and by the way,

I still play Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.

and it's still fun.

in fact, it's still more fun than 95% of the games I've ever played.

doesn't mean that I don't want a true followup (YI2 didn't remain true to the art style, and had vastly fluctuating difficulty levels).
i never said it wasn't time for them to release new games. i pretty much said what i said because you dissed starfox. 

btw, since you play melee, does that mean you don't play brawl?
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: Jono2 on August 18, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 17, 2008, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 17, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 15, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
Kirby AirRide nor Starfox Assault were mediocre. Kirby Squek Squad was awesome. Only Kirby Canvas Curse and Starfox on the DS were mediocre.

we're talking console.

I don't give two s***s about starfox.  i hate the series.  AirRide would've been nicer with an actual story mode, but overall it was a great game.


however, how many years ago was that? :|

give us a console kirby game.

also, SFAdventures was good, but far too short with not enough space sequences.
starfox assault was awesome as long as there's people to play with. same thing with Air Ride. I still play those games and they're still fun.

Yeah, and I still play Metroid Prime and it's still fun.
I still play SSBM and it's still fun.
I still play Fable and it's still fun.

all three of these have/are getting followups.

the fact that you can still play a game years after its release, and it's still fun, doesn't mean that it isn't time for them to make a new one.

Oh, and by the way,

I still play Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.

and it's still fun.

in fact, it's still more fun than 95% of the games I've ever played.

doesn't mean that I don't want a true followup (YI2 didn't remain true to the art style, and had vastly fluctuating difficulty levels).
i never said it wasn't time for them to release new games. i pretty much said what i said because you dissed starfox. 

btw, since you play melee, does that mean you don't play brawl?

i don't play either anymore.  I play TF2 far more often.  Melee was a game with much more lasting power than Brawl has.  I don't know why this is, but that's how I see it.

Plus, I took the time to become very, very good as Yoshi in melee (even though he was ass) and the fact that they overhauled his character (and basically screwed anyone who had used him in melee) was the final straw.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: tibar21 on August 18, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
for me yoshi is easier to use in brawl, and i'm better with him. melee is fun once in a while but brawl can still be addicting.
Title: Re: Nintendo Can Still Satisfy The Core Gamers...
Post by: Jono2 on August 18, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
Quote from: tibar21 on August 18, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
for me yoshi is easier to use in brawl, and i'm better with him. melee is fun once in a while but brawl can still be addicting.

yes, but yoshi's loss of DJC completely screwed with how I played with him.  I could no longer do... anything with the character.  it sucked.

also, the loss of significant damage with the Dair

also, the loss of significant time in eggs

also, the loss of independent trajectory eggs (they follow a set trajectory now)