Agree or Dissagree
Mario Art ?
Do you think of video games as an actual art form? Many of you may say no, it's just a game, but before you do consider this. In the early 1900's when movies were made it was purely entertainment, but as it evolved to become more and more elaborate it developed a story, a plot, and many memorable characters that can be compared to many book characters. This comes to show an example of evolution there entertainment that reflects on how we envision what are minds accept as entertainment. Cave drawing were just stick figures with pointy sticks, but it changed and morphed into something beatiful and unique.
When games first started it was the story of two paddles playing catch, and now it's something much more. It has living breathing characters with real emotions. You can feel like that is a real person. It's not just jumping over barraels for 500 points. An example is a game in which my opinion is by far the best Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy VI. Not nine, but six. It featured characters who had to find love, themselves, and eachother. It showed the effects of death, and the true feelings of love that could be revealed in something new. This was a major moment for entertainment in gaming. Both graphically and in storytelling. It showed what life feeled like after everyone you cared about died as the planet shattered and almost showed succesful suicide, opera, and amazing visuals.
Games like Crysis have shown the artform of graphics in moving top notch animation as well, so do you agree or disagree?
Eh, I don't agree. I don't really see games as art, but just a game. It can have story and all that, but it's still just a game to me.
Then it looks like we agree to disagree :D
I definitely agree. Video games are just starting to evolve into a true art form, like movies, but they're young right now.
Quote from: supercoolbros on August 15, 2008, 06:51:10 PM
Then it looks like we agree to disagree :D
Lol, I guess so. :P
I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.
It's an emerging art form. Gaming has really only been around for 25 years, think how simple cinema was in 1923.
Some games can be considered art, but the industry is too flooded and young to gain mainstream recognition.
Bioshock is the perfect piece of evidence for the "games as art" debate, by the way. Even with its anticlimactic endings.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on August 15, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.
*cough* Chrono Trigger *cough*
Quote from: supercoolbros on August 15, 2008, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on August 15, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.
*cough* Chrono Trigger *cough*
Nah, it was something else, something even better...
Terranigma.
jk. :P
Terranigma is awesome, though.
I consider nearly every type of media (and some other odd things, like placement of random stuff and even literal garbage) some sort of art, so games with their mixed media and amazing art direction are masterpieces to me...except for that cookie-cutter movie/TV show/whatever game market. That stuff sucks. So let me rephrase that: GOOD games are masterpieces to me in the art world.
I'm a purist in some things, but in art I am experimental to the core...which includes music as well.
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Quote from: Mystic on August 15, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Bombs are art?
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:42:02 PM
Quote from: Mystic on August 15, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Bombs are art?
yeah, they go under pyrotechnics.
Any form of entertainment is art. Better?
I belive games are an artform, but I will say that they were more inspired when technology was more limited. Better art nowadays is not that common. Back in the day, it was all over the place.
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 07:38:27 PM
I'm a purist in some things, but in art I am experimental to the core...which includes music as well.
eew chiptune
Quote from: Darklink on August 15, 2008, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:42:02 PM
Quote from: Mystic on August 15, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Bombs are art?
yeah, they go under pyrotechnics.
FIRE :3
MMFMMFMFMFMMFFFFFMMMMFFMMFF
Silly pyros.
Bonk is where it's at.
Also, since games are a form of entertainment, I do think some games are art, but not all of them...
All games are art in my opinion. Just as with movies or pictures, or books, some suck, some are awesome.
Quote from: Jono2 on August 15, 2008, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 07:38:27 PM
I'm a purist in some things, but in art I am experimental to the core...which includes music as well.
eew chiptune
I like glitchcore and breakcore, as well as strange epic ambient stuff.
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I have no choice but to agree, seeing as by definition, they are art.
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
fun to look at
asthetically pleasing
...semantics, semantics...
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
fun to look at
asthetically pleasing
...semantics, semantics...
Um, that was sarcasm.
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
fun to look at
asthetically pleasing
...semantics, semantics...
Um, that was sarcasm.
How do we know this?
Quote from: I_AM_A_PERSON on August 15, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
fun to look at
asthetically pleasing
...semantics, semantics...
Um, that was sarcasm.
How do we know this?
Wat
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: I_AM_A_PERSON on August 15, 2008, 11:09:40 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 15, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on August 15, 2008, 10:27:47 PM
I disagree, but it is fun to look at a game with amazing next gen graphics! :3
If it's asthetically pleasing to you, it's art.
I never said it was asthetically pleasing to me...
fun to look at
asthetically pleasing
...semantics, semantics...
Um, that was sarcasm.
How do we know this?
Wat
How can we, the readers, identify the sarcasm you claim to be using?
Um, by using your best judgement :P
Art is not supposed to be interactive....so no.
I think that because the video game companies are expanding with new next-gen games, video games will be an art as well as entertainment.
Quote from: extraz on August 18, 2008, 03:15:18 AM
Art is not supposed to be interactive....so no.
That's the worst excuse I've heard, no offense D:
Art is not just paintings and the like. Art is expression in media, and some media also happens to be interactive. Interactivity means that you can actively take part in the expression of the creator, which actually would make it more engaging as an art form that painting and even film.
Quote from: Zovistograt on August 18, 2008, 05:47:05 AM
Quote from: extraz on August 18, 2008, 03:15:18 AM
Art is not supposed to be interactive....so no.
That's the worst excuse I've heard, no offense D:
Art is not just paintings and the like. Art is expression in media, and some media also happens to be interactive. Interactivity means that you can actively take part in the expression of the creator, which actually would make it more engaging as an art form that painting and even film.
pure win.
Quote from: extraz on August 18, 2008, 03:15:18 AM
Art is not supposed to be interactive....so no.
So? Paintings are technically interactive. It makes people talk to other people about the painting in question.