Today i went out hunting with my dad and shot a deer, it was cool to actually use a firearm for once. Do any of you go hunting and have you gotten anything?
I go hunting regularly, with the exception of the season that ends tomorrow, I've been swamped.
I did go pheasant hunting in October, and got a couple. As for past years, I've gotten a handful of deer. I fondly look back at the first time I gutted one ^__^ Good memories throwing up.
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
I agree with Zov ;)
I'd like to ride a deer if it could carry me O_O
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
Umm...
The only reason you'd kill the fish after catching it is to eat it.
Otherwise, you throw it back in.
Yeah, Zovi. If you've ever had a hamburger in your life, you're cold. I find the means in which the animal is contained, fattened, and then killed, horrible.
At least with hunting and fishing, the animal stays in their habitat, gets a good life, and usually, has their life end in less than a second.
I'm friends with a couple of Park Wardens, and I've learned a lot. My uncle has taught me too. There are ethics most hunters abide by; make the cleanest kill possible, let the animal die in peace, ask permission before going on someones land, don't kill an animal where a family could come in contact with it, etc.
Furthermore, up in Alberta here, a number of deer are getting Chronic Wasting Disease. The populace got too big, so a number of them got a terrible disease, which can spread to humans. It tortures them. It degenerates their inners and outers, and gives them a slow, painful death.
In order to protect the rest of the deer, and humans, they call in hunting parties. Too many deer also tend to lead to a ton of accidents involving cars....a way no human or deer should have to die.
It's ecological management. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that is how I see it. We keep each other in balance.
Quote from: mackormoses on November 30, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
Yeah, Zovi. If you've ever had a hamburger in your life, you're cold. I find the means in which the animal is contained, fattened, and then killed, horrible.
At least with hunting and fishing, the animal stays in their habitat, gets a good life, and usually, has their life end in less than a second.
I'm friends with a couple of Park Wardens, and I've learned a lot. My uncle has taught me too. There are ethics most hunters abide by; make the cleanest kill possible, let the animal die in peace, ask permission before going on someones land, don't kill an animal where a family could come in contact with it, etc.
Furthermore, up in Alberta here, a number of deer are getting Chronic Wasting Disease. The populace got too big, so a number of them got a terrible disease, which can spread to humans. It tortures them. It degenerates their inners and outers, and gives them a slow, painful death.
In order to protect the rest of the deer, and humans, they call in hunting parties. Too many deer also tend to lead to a ton of accidents involving cars....a way no human or deer should have to die.
It's ecological management. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that is how I see it. We keep each other in balance.
Well, Zovi is also against euthanasia I believe, so that argument might not work with him. I personally do not hunt, but I do occasionally fish. I always throw the fish back, and I have no aversion to people who hunt, as long as they do it legally and in season. I've actually been in a couple of close calls with deer almost hitting our car and my parents have actually gotten hit.
Quote from: mackormoses on November 30, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
Yeah, Zovi. If you've ever had a hamburger in your life, you're cold. I find the means in which the animal is contained, fattened, and then killed, horrible.
At least with hunting and fishing, the animal stays in their habitat, gets a good life, and usually, has their life end in less than a second.
I'm friends with a couple of Park Wardens, and I've learned a lot. My uncle has taught me too. There are ethics most hunters abide by; make the cleanest kill possible, let the animal die in peace, ask permission before going on someones land, don't kill an animal where a family could come in contact with it, etc.
Furthermore, up in Alberta here, a number of deer are getting Chronic Wasting Disease. The populace got too big, so a number of them got a terrible disease, which can spread to humans. It tortures them. It degenerates their inners and outers, and gives them a slow, painful death.
In order to protect the rest of the deer, and humans, they call in hunting parties. Too many deer also tend to lead to a ton of accidents involving cars....a way no human or deer should have to die.
It's ecological management. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that is how I see it. We keep each other in balance.
Well said. :robothappy:
I wish I could hunt the freaking Canadian Geese in my area. (There must be over 100,000 of them. No joke, I saw a flock of over 1,000 a few days ago.) They should just kill a bunch of them, and feed the 40,000 homeless people here. But apparently the state cares more about geese than people. Plus the stuff the leave behind kills many crops in my area.
I agree. As long as it is legal, I think it is acceptable. There are times where the animal may live with a flesh wound, and I regret that, but my family, and several others I know, use a whole lot of the deer. The organs, the meat, the pelt, etc. We don't trophy hunt.
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
Isn't that poaching?
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on November 30, 2008, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
Isn't that poaching?
Poaching is illegally hunting protected species or hunting without certain requirements.
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
I knew someone would have this opinion, it's an animal first of all, and hunters don't just kill them, they use their meat for food and hide to sell.
Quote from: Mutilator7 on November 30, 2008, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
I knew someone would have this opinion, it's an animal first of all, and hunters don't just kill them, they use their meat for food and hide to sell.
Just so you know I see both sides of the hunting argument.
Yes it is an animal. However, that's the thing, it is an ANIMAL.
Just because it is an animal doesn't mean it doesn't have a right to live.
I hate it when people say "it's just an animal". We're just human, so what does it matter?
Quote from: Java_Java on November 30, 2008, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: Mutilator7 on November 30, 2008, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on November 30, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
I consider hunting (and fishing for that matter) cold blooded senseless murder for pleasure, which I don't find appealing at all. I'd more like to make friends with the animals and maybe hug them if they're nice and don't want to hurt me ^_^
didn't we have a hunting thread a few months ago where we had a big debate on this?
I knew someone would have this opinion, it's an animal first of all, and hunters don't just kill them, they use their meat for food and hide to sell.
Just so you know I see both sides of the hunting argument.
Yes it is an animal. However, that's the thing, it is an ANIMAL.
Just because it is an animal doesn't mean it doesn't have a right to live.
I hate it when people say "it's just an animal". We're just human, so what does it matter?
Not just an animal like that, i care about creatures like endagered species and animals we dont eat, but killing a pig for a hot dog is fine in my eyes, even though that isn't hunting.
I'm a bit lazy in the aspect of killing for food. I would not want an animal expressly killed for me personally, but I eat a lot of meat because I love the taste and wouldn't want to give it up to become vegetarian or something like that. I would love if we could remove the cerebral cortex or at least most of it in cows and pigs that are harvested for food so that they're basically mindless and have no cognitive thought. It would be no different, then, from just growing meat.
My mindset if, say, I'm eating a hamburger, is that I might as well eat it if they already did it, but I do not approve of being in the act of killing the animals. It's kind of like learning about a human after he or she is dead and thinking of it as merely history; if I have never seen the animal in question alive, I don't have much problem eating it, but if I see it alive and know it will be dead, and even if it is killed and cooked, I wouldn't eat it. I would be in utter disgust.
I woudnt shoot some random animal for a sport. Thats horrible. Now if other people would shoot the animal for me thats another story.
I've never been hunting, never will. Its just sick to shoot some random innocent animal for fun. Same with fishing, a fish just trying to get something to eat and gets a hook in its mouth and yanked from the water for sport, even if they do throw it back, that is just sick to me. If you eat the animal and make use of it, then its not as bad, but doing it for fun or sport is just wrong.
I go hunting. I'm going this weekend, to be exact! CAN'T WAIT!
I usually hunt deer.Quote from: mackormoses on November 30, 2008, 12:01:20 PM
I agree. As long as it is legal, I think it is acceptable. There are times where the animal may live with a flesh wound, and I regret that, but my family, and several others I know, use a whole lot of the deer. The organs, the meat, the pelt, etc. We don't trophy hunt.
Same here. The only thing we keep as a trophy is the head and antlers, if it's big enough for it.
We eat a lot of it. I like burgers with deer meat in them and have special pepperoni snacks made out of them, as well.Quote from: mackormoses on November 30, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
Yeah, Zovi. If you've ever had a hamburger in your life, you're cold. I find the means in which the animal is contained, fattened, and then killed, horrible.
At least with hunting and fishing, the animal stays in their habitat, gets a good life, and usually, has their life end in less than a second.
I'm friends with a couple of Park Wardens, and I've learned a lot. My uncle has taught me too. There are ethics most hunters abide by; make the cleanest kill possible, let the animal die in peace, ask permission before going on someones land, don't kill an animal where a family could come in contact with it, etc.
Furthermore, up in Alberta here, a number of deer are getting Chronic Wasting Disease. The populace got too big, so a number of them got a terrible disease, which can spread to humans. It tortures them. It degenerates their inners and outers, and gives them a slow, painful death.
In order to protect the rest of the deer, and humans, they call in hunting parties. Too many deer also tend to lead to a ton of accidents involving cars....a way no human or deer should have to die.
It's ecological management. I'm sure you'll disagree, but that is how I see it. We keep each other in balance.
Well put, sir. I completely agree. That is the ethics any hunter should abide by. And I've heard of that disease as well. We haven't had it around here yet thanks to the good deer hunting program, but lots of deer auto collisions still occur, particularly near the metro area, due to lots of rural roads and the fact you can't hunt deer at all in the Des Moines Metro Area.