Here I will post claims, opinions, etc. that you will have to "prove" otherwise using logic and/or material evidence.
Even if you agree with these, explore the opposite side. Please no dumbass answers.
1. Those who don't vote don't have a right to complain.
2. Women aren't people.
3. Hippies are ruining this planet with their soft talk of "love" and "non-violence".
4. Vegetarians are leading a useless effort to stop consumption of animals.
5. Presidents can win without the popular vote, and this is fair.
6. All of/most of the Bible is true.
I'll put this in Serious Discussion if the answers are serious enough. For now this is an experiment.
John Lennon > Superkool. #3 fails in so many ways.
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:11:42 AM
John Lennon > Superkool. #3 fails in so many ways.
The peaceful guy gets shot and I don't.
Funny how the world works.
SK: 1 , Lennon: 0.
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:11:42 AM
John Lennon > Superkool. #3 fails in so many ways.
The peaceful guy gets shot and I don't.
Funny how the world works.
SK: 1 , Lennon: 0.
Blahblah, you should be.
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:14:48 AM
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:11:42 AM
John Lennon > Superkool. #3 fails in so many ways.
The peaceful guy gets shot and I don't.
Funny how the world works.
SK: 1 , Lennon: 0.
Blahblah, you should be.
You want me to get shot, and yet the peace guy is your idol?
Sometimes I don't understand this world.
I guess that's why we're trying to destroy it.
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:14:48 AM
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:11:42 AM
John Lennon > Superkool. #3 fails in so many ways.
The peaceful guy gets shot and I don't.
Funny how the world works.
SK: 1 , Lennon: 0.
Blahblah, you should be.
You want me to get shot, and yet the peace guy is your idol?
Sometimes I don't understand this world.
I guess that's why we're trying to destroy it.
Well, there are things a person isn't meant to know.
"2. Women aren't people."
I stand on the firm negation of this resolution. First, I'd like to define the words given, courtesy of answers.com:
Women - Adult Human Female(s)
Aren't - Are not
People - Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers.
My first contention is that from these definitions, women are identified as humans, as well as people. Therefore, shouldn't they be one and the same? My second contention is that what makes a person human is a heartbeat and brainwaves. Last time I checked, both living men and women had them. Lastly, the resolution itself cannot be won from the affirmative side. It's absolutely impossible to disprove my aforementioned contentions.
I am now open for cross examination and points of clarification.
Quote from: LightningSword on December 17, 2008, 12:33:12 AM
"2. Women aren't people."
I stand on the firm negation of this resolution. First, I'd like to define the words given, courtesy of answers.com:
Women - Adult Human Female(s)
Aren't - Are not
People - Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers.
My first contention is that from these definitions, women are identified as humans, as well as people. Therefore, shouldn't they be one and the same? My second contention is that what makes a person human is a heartbeat and brainwaves. Last time I checked, both living men and women had them. Lastly, the resolution itself cannot be won from the affirmative side. It's absolutely impossible to disprove my aforementioned contentions.
I am now open for cross examination and points of clarification.
you're not a real man
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:35:43 AM
Quote from: LightningSword on December 17, 2008, 12:33:12 AM
"2. Women aren't people."
I stand on the firm negation of this resolution. First, I'd like to define the words given, courtesy of answers.com:
Women - Adult Human Female(s)
Aren't - Are not
People - Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers.
My first contention is that from these definitions, women are identified as humans, as well as people. Therefore, shouldn't they be one and the same? My second contention is that what makes a person human is a heartbeat and brainwaves. Last time I checked, both living men and women had them. Lastly, the resolution itself cannot be won from the affirmative side. It's absolutely impossible to disprove my aforementioned contentions.
I am now open for cross examination and points of clarification.
you're not a real man
Real - Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence
Man - An adult male human.
So, yes, you are correct. I am not an adult male human.
Quote from: LightningSword on December 17, 2008, 12:38:18 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:35:43 AM
Quote from: LightningSword on December 17, 2008, 12:33:12 AM
"2. Women aren't people."
I stand on the firm negation of this resolution. First, I'd like to define the words given, courtesy of answers.com:
Women - Adult Human Female(s)
Aren't - Are not
People - Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers.
My first contention is that from these definitions, women are identified as humans, as well as people. Therefore, shouldn't they be one and the same? My second contention is that what makes a person human is a heartbeat and brainwaves. Last time I checked, both living men and women had them. Lastly, the resolution itself cannot be won from the affirmative side. It's absolutely impossible to disprove my aforementioned contentions.
I am now open for cross examination and points of clarification.
you're not a real man
Real - Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence
Man - An adult male human.
So, yes, you are correct. I am not an adult male human.
you die now, kthxbye
countering is easy
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:47:39 AM
you die now, kthxbye
countering is easy
You seem to suck at it.
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:49:37 AM
No, you suck. Heh.
We've been through this before. That's not really much of a counter against me.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on December 17, 2008, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:49:37 AM
No, you suck. Heh.
We've been through this before. That's not really much of a counter against me.
Good point. I'll leave you to your life of loneliness.
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:52:15 AM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on December 17, 2008, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: `Matt` on December 17, 2008, 12:49:37 AM
No, you suck. Heh.
We've been through this before. That's not really much of a counter against me.
Good point. I'll leave you to your life of loneliness.
But if I suck, I'm clearly not alone.
1. No. There are people who cannot vote due to circumstance (underage, don't have proper identification due to the government being idiotic). They have every right to complain, add in the right to free speech, and they can complain all they want.
2. So I'm arguing that women are people? Obviously not arguing at a genetic standpoint, but women are people as much as men are people, as both are capable of the same thought processes, as well as (under proper circumstances) the same physical work. Are men people? Yes, because that's what we identify ourselves as.
5. I'm arguing that it's not fair? It's not fair because the majority of people voted for a separate candidate (I however, believe that it is fair due to everyone knowing how the system works).
6. The bible is taken by most cultures/peoples to not be translated literally, but to be taken in sets of guidelines. There are things harder to explain than the events in the bible (the baghdad battery, or whatever it's called, the ancient piping in china, ploop (or whatever it is)). It's not a text meant to be taken literally. It's a text meant to be taken as a warning.
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:09:48 AM
1. Those who don't vote don't have a right to complain.
Those who have the ability to do something and don't have no right to complain about the consequences of their inaction.
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on December 17, 2008, 12:09:48 AM
1. Those who don't vote BY CHOICE don't have a right to complain.
4. Vegetarians are leading a useless effort to stop consumption of animals.
Actually, those I completely Agree with.
Also:
I'm not really the one to say weither the Bible is real or not, so...
Peace and Love is great, but if people decide to turn hostile, we need a way to defend ourselves.
I agree 100% with what LS said about Women.
And, the whole President thing... I have no opinion on. :-\
You Canadians are sucking all the energy out of the room.
I'm not Canadian. :-\
We are people and eating animals has been of our instict for milleniums, protein deprived vegetarians aren`t going to change that. I agree with you on that one.