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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 12:31:15 PM

Title: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
Argh, my CS1331 class is going to be so tough.
Someone explain to me why Java is so needlessly complicated (I hate declaring my variables beforehand...it's so annoying).
I had to download JGrasp and Java SE 6 (the latest version) and I still have no idea whats going on.
At least everything else I have (besides Calc2) is fairly easy and straitforward.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Jono2 on January 09, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
what?  have you never programmed before Java?  You ALWAYS declare variables at the beginning of a program.  It's one of the major programming standards.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 09, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
what?  have you never programmed before Java?  You ALWAYS declare variables at the beginning of a program.  It's one of the major programming standards.
We used Python before and it's so much easier to get things done.
I understand WHY it's standard, I just don't like it X_X;;
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Totla on January 09, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 09, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
what?  have you never programmed before Java?  You ALWAYS declare variables at the beginning of a program.  It's one of the major programming standards.
We used Python before and it's so much easier to get things done.
I understand WHY it's standard, I just don't like it X_X;;
Python is probably the easiest thing you'll ever program in.
and since i'll never get a chance to use this again
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/python.png)
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: Totla on January 09, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 09, 2009, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 09, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
what?  have you never programmed before Java?  You ALWAYS declare variables at the beginning of a program.  It's one of the major programming standards.
We used Python before and it's so much easier to get things done.
I understand WHY it's standard, I just don't like it X_X;;
Python is probably the easiest thing you'll ever program in.
and since i'll never get a chance to use this again
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/python.png)
that sums it up perfectly
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: JMV on January 09, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
what


for(int i=0; i<100;i++){
System.out.printf("DICKS");
}
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Zovistograt on January 09, 2009, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: JMV on January 09, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
what


for(int i=0; i<100;i--){
System.out.printf("DICKS");
}
fixed

:B
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Doodle on January 09, 2009, 05:12:18 PM
I don't really know any programming languages, so I don't know. :-\
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Java on January 09, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
I'm not complicated...
I'm a fairly simple person. :(
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on January 09, 2009, 08:56:18 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 09, 2009, 08:02:58 PM
I'm not complicated...
I'm a fairly simple person. :(
You got Jokes.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Rius on January 09, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
Most programming languages require you to declare variables beforehand... at the least, it's just good style. Personally, I much prefer Java to something like Common LISP. Anyway, declarations are the least of your problems; have fun with regular expressions.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: JMV on February 04, 2009, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on January 09, 2009, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: JMV on January 09, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
what


for(int i=0; i<100;i--){
System.out.printf("DICKS");
}
fixed

:B
why
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Macawmoses on February 04, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
So, totally only responding to this thread now. It's complex because it was made by a Canadian, specifically, an Albertan...more specific yet, a Calgarian. We're brilliant people.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Nayrman on February 05, 2009, 04:28:59 AM
Quote from: mackormoses on February 04, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
So, totally only responding to this thread now. It's complex because it was made by a Canadian, specifically, an Albertan...more specific yet, a Calgarian. We're brilliant people.
It's complicated-ness probably stems from the fact that it was supposed to be a universal version of C++ so it wouldn't depend on the system.
(And I doubt it was just a canadien that made it XD )
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Silverhawk79 on February 05, 2009, 10:45:00 AM
C++ does the same thing.
It's not uncommon. In fact, it's standard.
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Doodle on February 05, 2009, 02:04:04 PM
I have to learn HTML for my web class now.
It's actually pretty easy. Though some people ask the stupidest questions it seems.

"HOW DO YOU BOLD? "
"..."
"Just that? I think you're wrong."
>
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Nayrman on February 05, 2009, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on February 05, 2009, 02:04:04 PM
I have to learn HTML for my web class now.
It's actually pretty easy. Though some people ask the stupidest questions it seems.

"HOW DO YOU BOLD? "
"..."
"Just that? I think you're wrong."

>
HTML is very easy once you get the hang of the basic things. CSS (right?) sheets can be annoying though, but even they're not too bad...
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Lotos on February 05, 2009, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on February 05, 2009, 02:04:04 PM
I have to learn HTML for my web class now.
It's actually pretty easy. Though some people ask the stupidest questions it seems.

"HOW DO YOU BOLD? "
"..."
"Just that? I think you're wrong."

>

Isn't that like on the Neopets level of basic?
Title: Re: Why is Java so complicated?
Post by: Macawmoses on February 05, 2009, 04:26:32 PM
Hi Nayr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gosling