Well i'm sure you're all aware of the hacking of brawl and stuff. Well now the hackers are thinking, "if we can change brawl, why not make it like melee?". And that's exactly what they're doing, new codes are out to alter hitstun, L-Cancelling, and make air dodging like melee. Here is a vid showing that in action http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOl-nNsqLc4&feature=channel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOl-nNsqLc4&feature=channel_page). What do you think? Is brawl good like it is, or should it be more like melee? I personally think brawl will never be what melee is and hacking won't change that. Discuss.
brawl's pacing is completely different from Melee's. adding in L-cancelling won't change that.
Via hack? No. Brawl is entirely different in terms of mechanics. I think changing that completely destroys the elements.
Now, if in game there were a "retro" and "modern" option, with default gravity, etc. as options...sure, I'd play retro any day.
I personally like the 3 Smashes because each game has its own techniques, characters, and physics unique to the game. If you get bored of one, switch to another. This is kind of killing the idea. If you want Melee, play Melee.
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 08, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
yeah right its def. a fact. Brawl sucks so much ass its not even debatable.
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 08, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
yeah right its def. a fact. Brawl sucks so much ass its not even debatable.
It doesn't suck...Melee is just so much better that it makes Brawl look bad.
Although most of that has to deal with the online being the worst online in the history of everything...
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 08, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
yeah right its def. a fact. Brawl sucks so much ass its not even debatable.
It doesn't suck...Melee is just so much better that it makes Brawl look bad.
Although most of that has to deal with the online being the worst online in the history of everything...
But...Melee doesn't even have online...
It's opinion. Anything being better than something is an opinion if you can't measure it in some way.
I would still say I like Melee a little better, but they're both fine.
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
Anyways, no I really thought Brawl sucked (not just compared to Melee). It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win. And of course the online was indeed the worst online in history.
What's so bad about Brawl, exactly? I liked it, though my opinion is weird and shifty, and is thus invalid.
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
Anyways, no I really thought Brawl sucked (not just compared to Melee). It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win. And of course the online was indeed the worst online in history.
1. I repeat, "Melee didn't even have online", so while you can easily say its online sucks compared to... well, any other game really... you can't say the online makes it worse that its prequels. Adding optional features can't make a sequel worse; only taking stuff away does that (example: Brawl took away Melee's speed, certain mini-games, competitive techniques, Mewtwo, etc.).
2. So what if you can win by camping and spamming? If you CHOOSE to camp and spam to win, then isn't that your own fault? When I play, I like taking advantage of what the game has, running all around and using all kinds of moves and items. Just because YOUR method of play is boring doesn't mean the game itself is boring. I mean, you could say any game is boring if all you due during the match is camp, OR you could actually attempt to have fun. It's a game, not a movie, so it's not going to get any more fun if you don't try to make it.
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 08, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
yeah right its def. a fact. Brawl sucks so much ass its not even debatable.
Brawl's not bad, just different. It's still fun, but I prefer Melee.
All 3 games have their good and bad points.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on February 08, 2009, 02:58:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on February 08, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on February 08, 2009, 10:47:28 AM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
Brawl sucks and Melee is better
this isn't even opinon, it's fact X_X;;
Or isn't even a fact but an opinion. (X_X);
yeah right its def. a fact. Brawl sucks so much ass its not even debatable.
It doesn't suck...Melee is just so much better that it makes Brawl look bad.
Although most of that has to deal with the online being the worst online in the history of everything...
But...Melee doesn't even have online...
lol
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on February 08, 2009, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
Anyways, no I really thought Brawl sucked (not just compared to Melee). It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win. And of course the online was indeed the worst online in history.
1. I repeat, "Melee didn't even have online", so while you can easily say its online sucks compared to... well, any other game really... you can't say the online makes it worse that its prequels. Adding optional features can't make a sequel worse; only taking stuff away does that (example: Brawl took away Melee's speed, certain mini-games, competitive techniques, Mewtwo, etc.).
2. So what if you can win by camping and spamming? If you CHOOSE to camp and spam to win, then isn't that your own fault? When I play, I like taking advantage of what the game has, running all around and using all kinds of moves and items. Just because YOUR method of play is boring doesn't mean the game itself is boring. I mean, you could say any game is boring if all you due during the match is camp, OR you could actually attempt to have fun. It's a game, not a movie, so it's not going to get any more fun if you don't try to make it.
o god stop
Where the hell is Dave?
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on February 08, 2009, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
Anyways, no I really thought Brawl sucked (not just compared to Melee). It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win. And of course the online was indeed the worst online in history.
1. I repeat, "Melee didn't even have online", so while you can easily say its online sucks compared to... well, any other game really... you can't say the online makes it worse that its prequels. Adding optional features can't make a sequel worse; only taking stuff away does that (example: Brawl took away Melee's speed, certain mini-games, competitive techniques, Mewtwo, etc.).
2. So what if you can win by camping and spamming? If you CHOOSE to camp and spam to win, then isn't that your own fault? When I play, I like taking advantage of what the game has, running all around and using all kinds of moves and items. Just because YOUR method of play is boring doesn't mean the game itself is boring. I mean, you could say any game is boring if all you due during the match is camp, OR you could actually attempt to have fun. It's a game, not a movie, so it's not going to get any more fun if you don't try to make it.
ok well if you play with items then there isn't any point in arguing with you since you play casual and I didn't.
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
Anyways, no I really thought Brawl sucked (not just compared to Melee). It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win. And of course the online was indeed the worst online in history.
That might explain why I didn't get very hooked on it at all...
I was expecting the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it had to be ruined.
I'm fine with Brawl. I kind of like it better than Brawl...
*gets shot*
Quote from: Frigid_Aztec on February 08, 2009, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Someguy13 on February 08, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
I like all 3 smashes the same.
I dont really care if theres less advanced stuff in one or the other or if ones faster. makes no difference as long as I have fun which i do in all 3.
Probably because you sucked.
It got so boring due to the fact that you can just camp and spam to win.
Yeah....this isn't true. Your bias against Brawl is sickening. I don't like the game more than Melee but it isn't an awful game.
People were just expecting Brawl to be Melee 2.0 and they didn't get what they desired in the end. Boohoo.
While most people here hate how Brawl "took away Melee's speed," I'm glad Brawl went back to the roots of the series--Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64. SSB 64 is the funness installment of the series.
In Brawl+, MK's uair, uair, uair, uair, Shuttle Loop is a true combo, NO thank you.
Plus, if people treated this like a new game, instead of just maybe something comparable to an expansion pack of a game, it wouldn't be that bad. Melee was a whole lot different from SSb64, Brawl is a lot different than Melee.
Holy crap i didn't know this was such a debatable topic, i was just showing what teh hackers were doing right now. I think brawl is good, i think melee is good, and smash 64 ftw. And if brawl is so bad then... i'll just stop, you people just go play melee or whatever
Only worth it if Mewtwo comes back D=.
Lucario is nothing compared to him.
oh wow did I just completely troll there? Well, I doubt anyone will disagree.
Quote from: Shaleblade on March 01, 2009, 08:12:04 AM
Only worth it if Mewtwo comes back D=.
Lucario is nothing compared to him.
oh wow did I just completely troll there? Well, I doubt anyone will disagree.
I agree with you. Mewtwo at least holds some importance in the series, while Lucario is just a run of the mill fighting type only famous because the japanese like him for no apparent reason (just like Jigglypuff.)
But I will reiterate so no one confuses it, Brawl is a good game, just not as close to Melee's greatness (mostly cuz of annoying stages and terrible character balancing)
Actually, I know have learned that these series of brawl hacks aren't necessarily melee2.0 but instead supposed to fix things in brawl that irked other people. Such as tripping, and that's why a no tripping code is one of the many one used in SuperSmashBros Brawl+ (that's what it's called). Items still make you trip it's just the chance factor of tripping when running/dashing is 0.