I wasn't actually. I knew it couldn't meet expectations, so I set them low.
What about you though?
My expectations were as low as you could possibly get.
I still think Brawl was one of the biggest video game fails of all time. Complete watered down casual poop.
I was a little disappointed. I thought it would be Melee with online play and more characters. It has online play and more characters, but it's not Melee. D:
Quote from: Qsmash on April 11, 2009, 05:18:13 PM
I was a little disappointed. I thought it would be Melee with online play and more characters. It has online play and more characters, but it's not Melee. D:
QFT
I do like the music feature and custom stages is fairly enjoyable, but DLC is necessary for the next smash game for sure
I honestly like it a lot.
To hell with competitive gameplay. Let the items and crazyness be on.
Hardcore Online Deathmatch: Yeah, let down.
Casual Smash Ball Free-For-All: Nope.
mildly.
Liked most of the new characters (save a certain robit who got in over FAR more deserving characters), as well as the music and overall gameplay.
Things I hated/dissappointed: Single player, method of receiving trophies, and of course online was worse than the dreamcast...
After playing it for a bit and going back and playing Melee I was.
But it's still a fun game just not nearly as good as the ones it followed.
Quote from: Nayrman on April 11, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
mildly.
Liked most of the new characters (save a certain robit who got in over FAR more deserving characters), as well as the music and overall gameplay.
Things I hated/dissappointed: Single player, method of receiving trophies, and of course online was worse than the dreamcast...
Rob
Owns
Brawl
Quote from: Ridley on April 11, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on April 11, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
mildly.
Liked most of the new characters (save a certain robit who got in over FAR more deserving characters), as well as the music and overall gameplay.
Things I hated/dissappointed: Single player, method of receiving trophies, and of course online was worse than the dreamcast...
Rob
Owns
Brawl
He's right. I've seen it happen. :|
The Online, Stage Builder, lack of Roy, lack of Bonuses after matches, and lack of Poke Floats as a Melee stage disappointed me.
But I still like it more than Melee.
It was... decent.
Bit of a letdown, really. Single player, online, and stage builder aren't all they were advertised to be, and I hate the Trophy Shooting thing. Liked most of the new characters and stages, but I still think there were some that were excluded that were much more deserving.
Quote from: Qsmash on April 11, 2009, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: Ridley on April 11, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on April 11, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
mildly.
Liked most of the new characters (save a certain robit who got in over FAR more deserving characters), as well as the music and overall gameplay.
Things I hated/dissappointed: Single player, method of receiving trophies, and of course online was worse than the dreamcast...
Rob
Owns
Brawl
He's right. I've seen it happen. :|
I know, but he's a completely pointless character that has two terrible games, and is only noteworthy for his ability to intercourse things up at all times when actually using him. There really was no reason to add him to Smash, especially over guys from Advance Wars, F-Zero, Metroid, and other series that are a LOT more important than a failed peripheral from 1985
Quote from: Nayrman on April 12, 2009, 06:16:48 AM
Quote from: Qsmash on April 11, 2009, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: Ridley on April 11, 2009, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on April 11, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
mildly.
Liked most of the new characters (save a certain robit who got in over FAR more deserving characters), as well as the music and overall gameplay.
Things I hated/dissappointed: Single player, method of receiving trophies, and of course online was worse than the dreamcast...
Rob
Owns
Brawl
He's right. I've seen it happen. :|
I know, but he's a completely pointless character that has two terrible games, and is only noteworthy for his ability to intercourse things up at all times when actually using him. There really was no reason to add him to Smash, especially over guys from Advance Wars, F-Zero, Metroid, and other series that are a LOT more important than a failed peripheral from 1985
Agreed.
Anyways, I haven't played melee in years, and by years I mean like 6-7. Thus I don't remember much about its gameplay... so ya, anything I would say would be very bias.
I can't explain my disappointment with brawl in words.
Since a few years ago, the Japanese site was apparently open for fan input/requests, and I was under the assumption that because of that there was no way they could possibly screw up, because heck, the fans almost always know best.
I didn't like how easy it was to unlock the characters. In Melee it took months (I was in 4th grade, but still); Brawl took maybe a week to get everything. I don't understand the reasoning for Wolf, Pokemon Trainer, ROB, and maybe some others as characters, although at least Pokemon Trainer is cool.
Gameplay is too watered down. In the Melee days, I kicked all my friends' asses, but in Brawl, somehow they can spam smashes and be competitive.
It's not BAD and at least all 3 smashes have distinctive gameplay, but I suppose I still prefer Melee.
:(
Why are people listing Stage builder and online as reasons why Brawl sucks? I mean at least it has them...
I was not disappointed with brawl and even like it a bit more than melee.
It's not as fast but it's just as fun.
Not really, it's fun, the adventure mode had a storyline (and for a storyline with 1% dialogue, it was very interesting), online, stage builder (I rarely used it, but it was a nice addition), kickass characters (too bad for the removed characters though), and a bunch of other awsome modes.
The only thing that disappointed me was the removed characters and modes, I liked Race to the Finish, and I also liked the platform jumping thing (which was removed in Melee).
Quote from: Someguy13 on April 17, 2009, 01:27:14 PM
Why are people listing Stage builder and online as reasons why Brawl sucks? I mean at least it has them...
I was not disappointed with brawl and even like it a bit more than melee.
It's not as fast but it's just as fun.
With online that bad they shouldn't have even bothered including it X_X;;
Stage Builder is good, too bad there aren't a good amount of tools and backgrounds and such. For Smash 4 I hope they expand it a lot more.
Stage Builder is absolute trash.
Dumbass Sakurai thought that by giving us that horrific game mode then he wouldn't need to include a good amount of actually decent stages. That would be true if stage builder wasn't just a bunch of cookie cutter pieces. Not a single stage builder stage is even half decent or good to look at.
Without "stage" builder then I guarantee that we would have gotten more than 31 stages (10 Melee stages don't count, they only show laziness.....poopty Melee stages at that). Melee had 29 stages, and average of around 2 stages for each franchise included. Brawl's 31 stages average out to only around 1.6 stages for each franchise (19 franchises). But don't forget that some stages didn't even belong to a franchise. (Battlefield, FD, Smashville, Pictochat, Hanenbow)
Subspace Emissary was a bit of a letdown, but that's about it as far as disappointments go.
I didn't feel disappointed, and I ended up liking it better than Melee.
Many aspects could have been improved, though.
Let's look at it this way: would we rather have Brawl, or no Smash 3 at all? I wasn't disappointed; my anticipation for Brawl was that it would be a good fighting game, a decent follow-up to the current series. That is what I got, and I liked it.
Brawl > No Wii Smash Bros. Game
Quote from: Light on April 21, 2009, 01:33:54 AM
Let's look at it this way: would we rather have Brawl, or no Smash 3 at all? I wasn't disappointed; my anticipation for Brawl was that it would be a good fighting game, a decent follow-up to the current series. That is what I got, and I liked it.
Brawl > No Wii Smash Bros. Game
No Smash 3, that way Melee would still be focused on.
Just disappointed with the Wi-Fi and characters. Thought that they would have more third-party characters. Still, I like it better than Melee.
if Brawl didn't exist, we would have recieved Melee Online. This was stated some time ago by official sources.
Brawl was a huge letdown, and overall, a piece of poop game.
Laziness shows through in every aspect of the game:
-clones
-lack of stages
-poopty stage builder
-lack of DLC
-poopty online
-only 5 BTT stages
-cloned final smashes
-lazily chosen melee stages
-a lot of music, but a lot of poopty music.
-the way trophies were handled
-overall, boring story mode, despite being able to ramp up difficulty
-lack of rep by pop (metroid needed more, as did F-Zero)
-ROB
On the subject of ROB, Not only was it a piece of poop peripheral, but it was the start. It showed nintendo for the first time that they could release peripherals with ANYTHING, and still get sales because it had this new "toy". The e-Reader. The multiple GBA hookup cables. The GCN/GBA thing (though I do admit, it is useful). Gamecube ports to the Wii. The Wii in general. ROB was NOT a failure in any sense of the word. Just because ROB was a piece of poop, doesn't mean that it didn't accomplish it's job, and more.
That said, it got in Brawl because it marked the first time Nintendo used cheap peripherals to steal money from their loyal customers, and that is EXACTLY what Brawl is. A cheap piece of poop.
Quote from: Boris, Overlord of All Acorns. on April 22, 2009, 08:23:16 AM
if Brawl didn't exist, we would have recieved Melee Online. This was stated some time ago by official sources.
Brawl was a huge letdown, and overall, a piece of poop game.
Laziness shows through in every aspect of the game:
-clones
-lack of stages
-poopty stage builder
-lack of DLC
-poopty online
-only 5 BTT stages
-cloned final smashes
-lazily chosen melee stages
-a lot of music, but a lot of poopty music.
-the way trophies were handled
-overall, boring story mode, despite being able to ramp up difficulty
-lack of rep by pop (metroid needed more, as did F-Zero)
-ROB
On the subject of ROB, Not only was it a piece of poop peripheral, but it was the start. It showed nintendo for the first time that they could release peripherals with ANYTHING, and still get sales because it had this new "toy". The e-Reader. The multiple GBA hookup cables. The GCN/GBA thing (though I do admit, it is useful). Gamecube ports to the Wii. The Wii in general. ROB was NOT a failure in any sense of the word. Just because ROB was a piece of poop, doesn't mean that it didn't accomplish it's job, and more.
That said, it got in Brawl because it marked the first time Nintendo used cheap peripherals to steal money from their loyal customers, and that is EXACTLY what Brawl is. A cheap piece of poop.
The online sucked, and it wasn't as fast paced as Melee.
That's my only complaints. Also, some parts were a little easy.
Oh, and I can't forget the watered down stage builder....
I didnt expect it to be perfect, but the character roster was good except for a few. Characters were way to easy. I regret playing SSE before unlocking everybody. Watching ten pop ups of characters I unlocked just because I saw them was painful. It was basically getting something I didnt work for. Plus you dont even have to fight the chars you unlock in SSE. I miss Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu. They should've stayed, infact everybody should've stayed. I dont mind having three Links. The more the better. Toon Link and Young Link have slight differences. The most pointless features in brawl were the 30 second demos of games we already played or own, and the stickers. I thought the alot of the items like ACs and Pkmn caused too much damage and knockback than they should. (Like ZSS's armor) The stage builder is fun to use but needs more tools. Tripping I've gotten used to but I think the tripping happens too often. Besides that I think Brawl is a great game and was worth the wait. I do like it better than melee mostly because there are more characters and stages and also because I'm not good at melee anymore.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on April 23, 2009, 09:16:42 AM
I didnt expect it to be perfect, but the character roster was good except for a few. Characters were way to easy. I regret playing SSE before unlocking everybody. Watching ten pop ups of characters I unlocked just because I saw them was painful. It was basically getting something I didnt work for. Plus you dont even have to fight the chars you unlock in SSE. I miss Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu. They should've stayed, infact everybody should've stayed. I dont mind having three Links. The more the better. Toon Link and Young Link have slight differences. The most pointless features in brawl were the 30 second demos of games we already played or own, and the stickers. I thought the alot of the items like ACs and Pkmn caused too much damage and knockback than they should. (Like ZSS's armor) The stage builder is fun to use but needs more tools. Tripping I've gotten used to but I think the tripping happens too often. Besides that I think Brawl is a great game and was worth the wait. I do like it better than melee mostly because there are more characters and stages and also because I'm not good at melee anymore.
Because I'm sure you were good at it before...
Quote from: Dawei on April 23, 2009, 04:52:31 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on April 23, 2009, 09:16:42 AM
I didnt expect it to be perfect, but the character roster was good except for a few. Characters were way to easy. I regret playing SSE before unlocking everybody. Watching ten pop ups of characters I unlocked just because I saw them was painful. It was basically getting something I didnt work for. Plus you dont even have to fight the chars you unlock in SSE. I miss Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu. They should've stayed, infact everybody should've stayed. I dont mind having three Links. The more the better. Toon Link and Young Link have slight differences. The most pointless features in brawl were the 30 second demos of games we already played or own, and the stickers. I thought the alot of the items like ACs and Pkmn caused too much damage and knockback than they should. (Like ZSS's armor) The stage builder is fun to use but needs more tools. Tripping I've gotten used to but I think the tripping happens too often. Besides that I think Brawl is a great game and was worth the wait. I do like it better than melee mostly because there are more characters and stages and also because I'm not good at melee anymore.
Because I'm sure you were good at it before...
Almost everyone thinks they are/were good at games when they never play against another human being, or win against amateurs who also think they are good at the game.
For the most part, I'm fine with brawl, but You and I both know that they could of made far better then what it is.
MY Only major gripe is SSBB's online features.
1.Constantly being DC'ed.
2. Friend Code B.S.
3. No Online Subspace emissary mode.
4. L A G.
5. Not having more options online, (such as if you just want to play 1 on 1 with somebody online, or looking for 1 vs 1 vs 1, or TURNING ITEMS OFF etc..)
Lack of More worthy characters is a problem.
And even though making a stage is awesome, it lacks true variety.
When it comes down to the point where people Hack/modify the game JUST to make it more enjoyable, that alone says enough.
Also, characters are too far unbalanced with eachother.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl to me gets a 8.7/10 (honestly)
Quote from: Echo on April 11, 2009, 05:05:46 PM
My expectations were as low as you could possibly get.
I still think Brawl was one of the biggest video game fails of all time. Complete watered down casual poop.
I agree. I was really disappointed with Brawl. I didn't have high expectations after what Nintendo has been doing to itself, but I still had a little bit of hope that Brawl was going to be good.
The Stage builder sucked. Friend codes made online as annoying than the lag that comes with it.
I thought story mode was cool when I first played through it. Then I realized I would never play story again and I had already unlocked all the characters. No fun ways to unlock them like in Melee.
I haven't picked up Brawl since.. I would say 2 weeks after its release date.
I'm fine with it.
Lol @ whiny Bitches
I wasn't disappointed with what I expected (except they said over 50 characters at first, and what do we get? NOT 50 THAT'S FOR SURE), but I was disappointed with what I didn't expect.
Graphics = GOOD
Sound = GOOD
Music = GREAT
Characters = OKAY: There could've been more, they should've put more diverse characters, less clones, no nerfs (NOOOO FOX), no character removals (NOOOO ROY), no removals of anything actually)
Stages = GOOD: They should just have EVERY SINGLE STAGE FROM ALL GAMES instead of just picking and choosing some "good ones"
Gameplay = OKAY: SSE was okay, but really gave the message of "I don't have Internet so I'll play this instead", tripping is not fun, glitches (or whatever they are) are annoying (MEEEEEEETTTTTTTAAAAAA KKKKKKKKNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT), challenges and events were okay, but some challenges are ridiculous
Online = AT LEAST IT'S THERE: This could've been done much better, and that goes for the Wii and all it's games as a whole. "Friend codes"? What the [expletive] is this? They should've copied Xbox 360. Also, it needs 8-player local and online play and DLC, and NO LAG
Extras = OKAY: The movies could've been better. I really enjoyed the "Special Movie" in Melee and was hoping for a sequel that including the unlockable characters in it, Stage Builder is fun, but could be less restrictive
Hopefully I'm not forgetting anything in my little review here. :) Overall, it gets about an 8/10. I'm feeling generous.
No im not
It didn't fill everyone's exact requirements for "Game of the Century," but it's still a great game. I personally am grateful we got as much as we did, even if it didn't have everything. I mean, sure it's slower and more aerial-based than Melee, but I don't think that's really as game-breaking as you people think, and note:
Brawl had Wi-Fi, Melee didn't.
Brawl had Stage Creator, Melee didn't.
Brawl had story, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 35+ characters, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 3rd parties, Melee didn't.
Brawl had My Music, Melee didn't.
So go ahead, whine all you want about how it would have been better to just get Melee Online, but when you do, remember that most of the things you say are s*** in Brawl, Melee DIDN'T EVEN HAVE.
Stop thumping old breads!
Oh, and to Smashbro25
1. Online could be better.
2. Stage Builder was basic.
3. Oh, you mean the "enemy of my enemy is my friend story"?
4. Yet they added some characters that didn't need to be in there, and not add others.
5. No complaint.
6. No complaint.
/rant.
So yeah, Brawl sucks. Well, compared to Melee. But Brawl is a different type of Smash game. It's not Melee with online. Brawl is a casual game with a hardcore name. It's overall a solid title for the Wii, but pales in comparison to what it could have been.
They took out the competitive techniques that the previous two games had to dumb it down. They took out the enjoyable parts of the previous two games and filled it with features that could be greatly improved on, i mean i have to hack to actually somewhat enjoy the stage creator. Race to the finish and board the platforms :( Online was horrendous, i don't even know what went wrong, they have lag-free 12 player mario kart, but can't handle a 4 person smash? I did however like the changes to target test, they were cool along with co-op in target test and homerun contest. SSE should have had lives instead of percentage, would've made more sense, and the stickers on trophies were cool though. Overall it's an okay game. So yes and no. But mostly yes.
Quote from: SmashBro25 on July 22, 2009, 07:57:09 PM
Brawl had Wi-Fi, Melee didn't.
Brawl had Stage Creator, Melee didn't.
Brawl had story, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 35+ characters, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 3rd parties, Melee didn't.
Brawl had My Music, Melee didn't.
1. I'll give you that, but the Wi Fi is so bare bones and full of lag, that its not much of an improvement.
2. Stage Builder is a horrible addition that gave the game develpoers an excuse to put poopty stages in the game. Brawl would have been way better without it.
3. Brawl had a story (barely), so what? Melee's 1P mode was far better.
4. Characters aren't important, Melee had 29 which is more then enough.
5. 3rd parties.....big deal who cares? No improvement there.
6. My Music would have been an ok feature if they used it right. Once again hardly any stages and way too much music (most of it goes un-listened to)
skimmed this topic, and i can sum it up in to 3 words:
WAAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH.
nothing but complaints. arent you people ever happy? i think brawl was great! its just that you all had high expectations.
Quote from: Echo on July 23, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
1. I'll give you that, but the Wi Fi is so bare bones and full of lag, that its not much of an improvement.
2. Stage Builder is a horrible addition that gave the game develpoers an excuse to put s***ty stages in the game. Brawl would have been way better without it.
3. Brawl had a story (barely), so what? Melee's 1P mode was far better.
4. Characters aren't important, Melee had 29 which is more then enough.
5. 3rd parties.....big deal who cares? No improvement there.
6. My Music would have been an ok feature if they used it right. Once again hardly any stages and way too much music (most of it goes un-listened to)
1. IMPROVEMENT!? IT NEVER HAD A FIRST! WHAT IMPROVEMENT!?
2. better without it? not hardly.
3. debatable. very debatable.
4. characters are very important in my book.
5. no comment.
6. you must not be a fan of the games in brawl. any fan would flip over that feature.
Quote from: chaosgear on July 23, 2009, 02:15:59 PM
skimmed this topic, and i can sum it up in to 3 words:
WAAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH.
nothing but complaints. arent you people ever happy? i think brawl was great! its just that you all had high expectations.1. IMPROVEMENT!? IT NEVER HAD A FIRST! WHAT IMPROVEMENT!?
2. better without it? not hardly.
3. debatable. very debatable.
4. characters are very important in my book.
5. no comment.
6. you must not be a fan of the games in brawl. any fan would flip over that feature.
I had high expectations? Once again my expectations were as low as you can get....and I still hated it.
You all need to stop whining. It's fun and you know it.
For online play, sure it lags like hell, but aren't there fixes? The problem mostly lies with Nintendo on that front, ALL of Wii's online games suck.
For the stage builder: If you don't like it, don't use it. It was a neat little feature and as basic as it was, it's still fun to toy around with. I've made some stages myself I thought were fun.
For the story: Sure it made unlocking characters very easy, but at least it had a plot, it had a sense of completion (for those of us who like getting 100% of everything), and was overall fun and interesting.
Anyone who says the characters suck needs to get the intercourse out now. In a game like this, the more the merrier, who cares if you don't like a character specifically? Sure they could have and should have kept Roy/Mewtwo (and ironically the people who say they should have kept them say Pichu should be gone. Hypocrits.), but they added a nice number of fun characters. As for games that needed reps? Let me guess, you're butthurt 'cause Ridley was a boss and not playable. Ridley is far suited better as a boss, shut the intercourse up.
I personally would prefer LESS third party additions, I'm fine with just Snake and Sonic (and if they have to build from there, add Tails/Knuckles.)
The music feature wasn't done right, but they still had a ton of options.
On to the other "points of failure". Nerfed characters? Improves the balance of the game. More butthurt Fox spammers because their character doesn't rape everything anymore.
No more wavedashing? It wasn't a feature to begin with. It was an exploit. I'm glad it's gone.
SMASHBALLS ARE TOO POWERFUL. Turn them off, tourneyfag.
The game is fun to play and you intercourse ing know it. Stop complaining.
I was not disappointed.
hey, dumbass, don't put words in my mouth. the game was intercourse ing boring as hell no matter how hard I tried to enjoy it.
and more balance? lmao MK is so much better then any other character that people are contemplating a hard ban on him. The entire metagame revolves around how to counter MK, and currently he completely dominates the tourny scene. Brawl is an unbalanced piece of poop.
1P mode was completely blown to pieces. Melee had a fun little 1P mode (nothing too fancy, since its a multiplayer game). Brawl's 1P revolves fully around that hideous SSE that absorbed all the creators time (time that could and should of been used on something else).
Stage Builder is garbage, as you can't make intercourse ing poop in it. If stage builder weren't made then I'm sure there would have been some more actual stages in Brawl (good stages, not gimmicky pieces of trash like 75mm).
Quote from: Echo on July 23, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
hey, dumbass, don't put words in my mouth. the game was intercourse ing boring as hell no matter how hard I tried to enjoy it.
and more balance? lmao MK is so much better then any other character that people are contemplating a hard ban on him. The entire metagame revolves around how to counter MK, and currently he completely dominates the tourny scene. Brawl is an unbalanced piece of poop.
1P mode was completely blown to pieces. Melee had a fun little 1P mode (nothing too fancy, since its a multiplayer game). Brawl's 1P revolves fully around that hideous SSE that absorbed all the creators time (time that could and should of been used on something else).
Stage Builder is garbage, as you can't make intercourse ing poop in it. If stage builder weren't made then I'm sure there would have been some more actual stages in Brawl (good stages, not gimmicky pieces of trash like 75mm).
Isn't Metaknight good because of exploits? I don't know either way, I'm not a tourneyfag who bases everything on tiers. If Metaknight rapes now, in the next game (if there is one), Brawl tourneyfags will be butthurt when HE's nerfed. The greatness of certain characters isn't planned ahead of time. They're creators are TRYING to balance the characters, even if they've missed some exploits.
Every "downside" to this game is labeled by tourneyfags.
NO ITEMS, FOX ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION!
The 1P Adventure was improved on Melee's adventure, if you think about it. It's still a side scroller, just without a big flashy "VS. (Character)" between every stage. Plus: Bosses. We're not limited to just the playable characters and Master Hand. With a story included, albeit with little dialogue, this tops Melee's 1P mode in every way. I will admit I don't like how easily characters are unlocked, I think they should have been unlocked just for that game mode, but whatever I won't complain.
Stagebuild is a neat little thing to play with. And with how many stages are banned from tournaments in both Melee and Brawl, I'm surprised that this feature isn't praised more. You can make the perfect tournament stage with it. It won't have any "omg the stage killed me" obstacles if you don't want it. It might not have the most options but you can build what you need. And who cares if it's not the prettiest, it gets the job done.
If you can only have fun with strict tournament rules, I.E. you're a person who always turns items off and won't play a stage because it has some obstacles, then you're a prick. Games are made to be fun, especially games like this. I like to sit down with friends and just beat the poop out of each other. It's fun, not even remotely boring.
Both Echo and Rob are correct. In their own ways.
Echo is the Harcore tourney person who hated the Casual switch because the VS mode faltered, etc.
Rob is glad that it changed because he now has more fun because there are more options.
Am I right?
Pretty much.
Though I don't agree the vs. mode faltered.
The game doesn't suck because someone can't adjust to new poop.
And to say a game sucks because it DOES have new stuff is awful. Even if the new stuff isn't as refined as it could be, it wasn't in the last one, so it IS an improvement.
Let's put a new perspective in it:
Say they didn't change anything, left Wavedashing as it was, etc.
But they didn't make use of the Gamecube controller. You could only use the Wiimote or Wiimote/Nunchuk.
Would it be a terrible game?
You need to learn to adjust.
I agree with Rob.
SSE was very good. Even if it doesn't look like the Adventure mode, it has better storyline, really good cutscenes, good amount of bosses, and weird but amusing teams.
Also, Stage Builder was a good feature. If you PUT your MIND into it, you could create very good stages like symbols and the like. (I made Phoenix Wright stage). :P
Someone sent me a stage a while ago, it was basically the Earthbound city stage that isn't in Brawl, but made of bricks. If you try hard enough, you can make stuff like that.
I liked the storyline of SSE, the only flaw I saw was a few characters having little to no story in it at all. You guys blame all of the problems there because it has so much memory taken, but you should also blame "Classic games." Every game there, the WHOLE game is in it, you just can't reach some parts due to the time, but the WHOLE game file is there, from the beginning of OoT, to the end of it, all of that is also taking up a poop load of memory. I'd rather not have any classic games, especially since you can't play very long.
Why did they put the WHOLE game in if you only had 30 seconds to 5 minutes?
Quote from: JNFS2014 on July 23, 2009, 06:38:59 PM
Why did they put the WHOLE game in if you only had 30 seconds to 5 minutes?
No idea, just in case you can somehow move fast? But seriously, I'd prefer none at all unless you can play with no time limit.
Quote from: JNFS2014 on July 23, 2009, 06:15:40 PM
Both Echo and Rob are correct. In their own ways.
Echo is the Harcore tourney person who hated the Casual switch because the VS mode faltered, etc.
Rob is glad that it changed because he now has more fun because there are more options.
Am I right?
pretty much.
and I don't see how I'm a prick if I think the casual way is boring. I had a poop load of fun in Melee playing by tourny rules, win or lose.
Another thing I hated about Brawl is that there's sometimes "Team Lucas/Ness" on Classic mode... And there's only one Earthbound stage that isn't a Melee stage... x_X