I've noticed that a lot of people tend to have Garchomp in their party at the Wi-fi battle tower.
I went through 5 matches in a row and most of them were Garchomps.
Is he top tier in Dragon-type or something?
He is one of the three non-legendary Uber tiered Pokemon. Garchomp is so beastly it can tear through pretty much anything. :x
Ummm.....
Awesome movepool.
130 Base Attack
108 Base Speed
At least 80 in every other stat.
Quote from: Macbeth on April 21, 2009, 04:07:59 PM
He is one of the three non-legendary Uber tiered Pokemon. Garchomp is so beastly it can tear through pretty much anything. :x
It's that Swords Dance + Outrage + Persim Berry combo that always worries me.
I have plenty of counters for it, but I just don't know how to mix it in.
Yeah, the only counter is a Full Attack based Ice Shard Weaville, which sometimes doesn't work.
An ice type attack pretty much kills it though.
That's if you can get in before it gets you.
Quote from: wiiboychris on April 21, 2009, 04:38:26 PM
An ice type attack pretty much kills it though.
You can't switch one in without it being outsped and killed.
Yache chomp defined uber, because it guaranteed a kill every match. Plus the defenses made it the only bulky sweeper prior to Latias' introduction.
So yeah top tier dragon.
Quote from: Macbeth on April 21, 2009, 04:41:45 PM
That's if you can get in before it gets you.
Focus Band or Quick Claw.
Maybe with Weavile?
That would involve so much prediction. Switching in means raped. Him coming in on you after you knock one out means rape. You have few chances.
That's why you use him at the Battle Frontier. ;)
Oh yeah.
I've seen many of those Yache Berry Garchomps.
It's either that or Focus Sash.
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Oh yeah.
I've seen many of those Yache Berry Garchomps.
It's either that or Focus Sash.
Sash wouldn't work, since it'd be switching in on SR most of the time.
Quote from: Juliette on April 21, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Oh yeah.
I've seen many of those Yache Berry Garchomps.
It's either that or Focus Sash.
Sash wouldn't work, since it'd be switching in on SR most of the time.
I forgot about that.
If only Latias could outspeed Garchomp with Stealth Rock in play, then all it would take is one Draco Meteor to wipe it out. Unless it misses, Latias is screwed.
Also, it possible for a Salamence to outspeed a Garchomp?
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 07:29:54 PM
Quote from: Juliette on April 21, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Oh yeah.
I've seen many of those Yache Berry Garchomps.
It's either that or Focus Sash.
Sash wouldn't work, since it'd be switching in on SR most of the time.
I forgot about that.
If only Latias could outspeed Garchomp with Stealth Rock in play, then all it would take is one Draco Meteor to wipe it out. Unless it misses, Latias is screwed.
Also, it possible for a Salamence to outspeed a Garchomp?
Latias can outspeed Garchomp... Base 110 v base 102.
Latias Dragon Pulse running 108 spA and timid v. standard garchomp:
282 Atk vs 206 Def & 358 HP (90 Base Power): 266 - 314 (74.30% - 87.71%)So it really wouldn't need draco meteor.
SR does little to garchomp.
Jolly Mence can outspeed Adamant Garchomp, also non-max speed Garchomp can be outsped by max speed if they're both adamant.
Quote from: Juliette on April 22, 2009, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 07:29:54 PM
Quote from: Juliette on April 21, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 21, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Oh yeah.
I've seen many of those Yache Berry Garchomps.
It's either that or Focus Sash.
Sash wouldn't work, since it'd be switching in on SR most of the time.
I forgot about that.
If only Latias could outspeed Garchomp with Stealth Rock in play, then all it would take is one Draco Meteor to wipe it out. Unless it misses, Latias is screwed.
Also, it possible for a Salamence to outspeed a Garchomp?
Latias can outspeed Garchomp... Base 110 v base 102.
Latias Dragon Pulse running 108 spA and timid v. standard garchomp:
282 Atk vs 206 Def & 358 HP (90 Base Power): 266 - 314 (74.30% - 87.71%)
So it really wouldn't need draco meteor.
SR does little to garchomp.
Jolly Mence can outspeed Adamant Garchomp, also non-max speed Garchomp can be outsped by max speed if they're both adamant.
Oh, okay.
I only used Draco Meteor as an example since it's the strongest Dragon-type special dealer.
Also, I know SR wouldn't do much against Garchomp.
I just thought that I'd give another example of what could be done if a Garchomp equipped with FS switched in on SR.
I believe SR is supposed to deal certain damage depending on the type it hits.
0.25x effective: 3.125%
0.5x effective: 6.25% (The amount Garchomp would take)
1x effective: 12.5%
2x effective: 25%
4x effective: 50% (That's about half the max HP, right?)
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 23, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
Oh, okay.
I only used Draco Meteor as an example since it's the strongest Dragon-type special dealer.
Also, I know SR wouldn't do much against Garchomp.
I just thought that I'd give another example of what could be done if a Garchomp equipped with FS switched in on SR.
I believe SR is supposed to deal certain damage depending on the type it hits.
0.25x effective: 3.125%
0.5x effective: 6.25% (The amount Garchomp would take)
1x effective: 12.5%
2x effective: 25%
4x effective: 50% (That's about half the max HP, right?)
Yeah, the percentages are right. Although even if it takes 1 damage focus sash still breaks.
Also, odd numbers are rounded down, so if you switch in twice into SR if you're 4x weak, and you have an odd HP, you get 3 switchins instead of 2.
Quote from: Juliette on April 23, 2009, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: Bright_Night_Light on April 23, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
Oh, okay.
I only used Draco Meteor as an example since it's the strongest Dragon-type special dealer.
Also, I know SR wouldn't do much against Garchomp.
I just thought that I'd give another example of what could be done if a Garchomp equipped with FS switched in on SR.
I believe SR is supposed to deal certain damage depending on the type it hits.
0.25x effective: 3.125%
0.5x effective: 6.25% (The amount Garchomp would take)
1x effective: 12.5%
2x effective: 25%
4x effective: 50% (That's about half the max HP, right?)
Yeah, the percentages are right. Although even if it takes 1 damage focus sash still breaks.
Also, odd numbers are rounded down, so if you switch in twice into SR if you're 4x weak, and you have an odd HP, you get 3 switchins instead of 2.
Oh, okay.
That makes sense.
Thanks for sharing the extra info with me.