They tried something different with the Wii, and it's making Nintendo loads of cash.
What do you think they'll do next? What do think they should do?
I think they should go back to traditional gaming next generation. Sure, the Wii is different, and different types of games came with it. But even into the next generation, the Wii will still be selling plenty. Nintendo will probably keep new Wiis and new Wii games being made. So a more traditional console alongside it would be nice, and maybe help please the hardcore gamers more.
since they're doing extremely well, they'll probably get lazy and complacent just like before and release the Wii 2, the only difference being that it comes with the Wii Board, and controllers with built in WMP with graphics that are non HD, terrible online, and gimmicky games...
Well, they are going to have to do something different, that's all I can say.
Looking to the past is what Nintendo usually does first when making a system, but I think that a new handheld with the power of the GCN will come out within two years.
Wii 2 will be similar to the Wii but with improved motion controls and a better GPU. A bigger hard or flash drive is also a possibility. A new handheld is possible, but Nintendo's making loads of dough with the DS and DSi, so we won't hear anything until at least E3 2010.
Better idea: virtual reality. :) (What? I can dream).
Touch, wiggle and waggle... I'm out of ideas
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 02, 2009, 10:55:39 PM
Better idea: virtual reality. :) (What? I can dream).
tbqh, if virtual reality is ever invented, the civilized world will die off fairly quickly.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 03, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
tbqh, if virtual reality is ever invented, the civilized world will die off fairly quickly.
I doubt that. It may create a new line of people who do nothing after school but enter into their virtual world (replacing the people who do nothing but play WoW and other games of the like). The way Nintendo is going, I would like it if they someday did get the technology together to create a virtual reality. Instead of going back to the traditional gaming style, I want them to invent more motion sensory. They have the materials to make it so moving your head moves the screen in front of you. How amazingly cool would that be? You could control your hands with the motion sensory controllers, move the screen as if you were there, looking around. One day they'll make boots with sensors in them (like the Wii Fit board), so the game will acknowledge when you want to walk forward or run. From there, they can create a virtual reality.
I don't think the civilized world will die off. We'll ease into it. It'll be the next big thing, like RPG's, only much, much cooler. To try and make it less addicting, they can add subscription fees and start it off at a very expensive price (it
is virtual reality after all). So yes, one day I hope they do make virtual reality. I'll probably be old with grandkids before they get real headway, or not even alive at all. But one day, it will happen. And I'd like it if Nintendo didn't back away from the possibilities.
If you have enough money to keep you alive in the virtual reality machine, why wouldn't you just stay in your virtual world? You can do anything you want, it looks and feels real, really IS real, and if you can convince yourself that life is better in your virtual world, there's absolutely no reason to leave. Everyone who has the technology is happy. They begin to stop caring that it's not "real", because it is as real as they make it, and they can stay in for unlimited amounts of time.
Also, as it becomes more and more widespread, it would become more and more accessible. If not, revolts would occur, and the less affluent members of society would take over/kill the people who are involved in their virtual worlds, and there would be nothing to stop them.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 07, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
and there would be nothing to stop them.
You act like the Armed Forces are intercourse ing boy scouts.
Quote from: Zero on June 08, 2009, 04:17:57 AM
You act like the Armed Forces are intercourse ing boy scouts.
Why would the armed forces be in the army if they can live a better life in virtual reality?
Quote from: Jono2 on June 08, 2009, 05:15:27 AM
Why would the armed forces be in the army if they can live a better life in virtual reality?
Because this isn't the intercourse ing matrix.
True virtual reality is enough to obliterate your mind.
We are nowhere near the technology needed for virtual reality that you describe, and when we have it, it will more than likely kill whoever uses it.
The brain is delicate.
I think video game technology has to take a giant step backwards. Fuck virtual reality, intercourse motion control, intercourse the third dimension. We need to go back to 32 bit sprites which looked fantastic and tasted good too. We need to de-volve into a casual generation where controllers had under 6 buttons and you didn't have to worry about intercourse ing lasers and hard drives that could stop working and buttintercourse your gaming experience.
Re-release the Super Nintendo and start making new Metroid games, new Mario games, new Zelda games. They're all we ever needed anyway.
Quote from: Beatnik on June 08, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
I think video game technology has to take a giant step backwards. Fuck virtual reality, intercourse motion control, intercourse the third dimension. We need to go back to 32 bit sprites which looked fantastic and tasted good too. We need to de-volve into a casual generation where controllers had under 6 buttons and you didn't have to worry about intercourse ing lasers and hard drives that could stop working and buttintercourse your gaming experience.
Re-release the Super Nintendo and start making new Metroid games, new Mario games, new Zelda games. They're all we ever needed anyway.
I second this
Quote from: HTA on June 08, 2009, 09:17:25 AM
Because this isn't the intercourse ing matrix.
True virtual reality is enough to obliterate your mind.
We are nowhere near the technology needed for virtual reality that you describe, and when we have it, it will more than likely kill whoever uses it.
The brain is delicate.
ahh, the "it's years off" argument.
That's not what I'm basing this off of.
True virtual reality, where your mind is not destroyed. This is what I'm arguing. What you just said has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 08, 2009, 04:18:37 PM
ahh, the "it's years off" argument.
That's not what I'm basing this off of.
True virtual reality, where your mind is not destroyed. This is what I'm arguing. What you just said has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
Actually what he said was completely relevant. Anything relating to what you're talking about isn't even conceivable right now, and only lies in fiction. We don't know if it'd turn out like how fiction speculates it'd affect the mind. Not only that, but our entire body would atrophy. Unless some fiction-based technology can reverse the effects of that, then people would die regardless of if HTA's claims are true or not.
Virtual Reality is just a lame concept, and the people that long for it are just too pathetic to deal with and enjoy reality. If you really want to escape reality, smoke some weed, do some LSD, or play WoW, because "true" virtual reality isn't possible right now, and won't be for an extremely long time, if at all.
Quote from: Beatnik on June 08, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
I think video game technology has to take a giant step backwards. Fuck virtual reality, intercourse motion control, intercourse the third dimension. We need to go back to 32 bit sprites which looked fantastic and tasted good too. We need to de-volve into a casual generation where controllers had under 6 buttons and you didn't have to worry about intercourse ing lasers and hard drives that could stop working and buttintercourse your gaming experience.
Re-release the Super Nintendo and start making new Metroid games, new Mario games, new Zelda games. They're all we ever needed anyway.
I love the way you think.
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 02, 2009, 10:55:39 PM
Better idea: virtual reality. :) (What? I can dream).
Lol, Nintendo won't go that far.
Microsoft tried to though. Look up Project Natal if you haven't already.
Quote from: Zero on June 08, 2009, 07:18:19 PM
Actually what he said was completely relevant. Anything relating to what you're talking about isn't even conceivable right now, and only lies in fiction. We don't know if it'd turn out like how fiction speculates it'd affect the mind. Not only that, but our entire body would atrophy. Unless some fiction-based technology can reverse the effects of that, then people would die regardless of if HTA's claims are true or not.
These two statements contradict each other.
Quote from: Zero on June 08, 2009, 07:18:19 PM
Virtual Reality is just a lame concept, and the people that long for it are just too pathetic to deal with and enjoy reality. If you really want to escape reality, smoke some weed, do some LSD, or play WoW, because "true" virtual reality isn't possible right now, and won't be for an extremely long time, if at all.
This is an aside.
I don't consider Virtual Reality an escape from what is real. I consider it a chance to experience things that otherwise would not be possible. I wouldn't spend my life in there, mostly because I would never pay a monthly fee for it, I understand the difference between what is real and what is fake, and I probably wouldn't be very good at it. Let's say that we are able to keep our body under control, and they do come up with Virtual Reality, a system that works. Do you really think that everyone would get it? Most people between the ages of 30 and on probably wouldn't get it. They'd be too busy with their own lives. Not every kid is going to get it, their parents will understand the disadvantages and say 'no'. You can't say that once Virtual Reality is possible, everyone will want it and be using it. Some people won't have the money, others just don't like the idea, some are too busy, and too old or too young.
For the people that do get it, yes some will get consumed with it (just like people get consumed with pot, WoW, gambling, and any other addiction that ruins their life), others will embrace it and use it like any other game. Then their system will break, none of their friends go on anymore, or they'll just get bored of it and leave. I believe that once it is available, the human race will have been exposed to so much already that it won't be such a big leap. We'll have had other trial runs with lesser Virtual Realities, slowly evolved, and our society as a whole will have such an advancement of technology that Virtual Reality won't keep everyone stuck inside their homes, never to leave again. You can't just think of it as suddenly we have Virtual Reality "oh noez!". There are many different factors that go into it. And this is just how I believe it will play out.
As for Nintendo going back to its roots, why not do both? Nintendo needs to please all of its audiences, not by trying to mash them all together into one game, but by making different games and systems to tailor to the needs of the people. They should continue toying with the sensory idea, and also bring back some of the favorite oldies with revamped systems to play them on. They can't lose.
ty for a smart response tbqh
if virtual reality were to ever exist, whoever controls it would attempt to make it as cheap as possible. Think wal-mart. This would allow nearly everyone access, except the people who care.
but on topic:
Next generation, I think that Nintendo will finally catch up in technology. They'll have the disposable income to take a bit of a risk, and seeing the way the movie industry is (slowly) moving, I think they're going to head in the direction of 3-D picture.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 13, 2009, 11:08:29 PM
ty for a smart response tbqh
if virtual reality were to ever exist, whoever controls it would attempt to make it as cheap as possible. Think wal-mart. This would allow nearly everyone access, except the people who care.
but on topic:
Next generation, I think that Nintendo will finally catch up in technology. They'll have the disposable income to take a bit of a risk, and seeing the way the movie industry is (slowly) moving, I think they're going to head in the direction of 3-D picture.
Hmmm.. that could make some games epic.
Make it look like bullets are flying by you and poop. That would be epic.
I really dislike the visual "3D" and doubt gaming will take that direction.
How did virtual reality turn from a joke into an argument in this thread?
In my random predictions, I'll guess that:
- Nintendo will have loads of cash to blow into development from Wii's success
- They will attempt to maintain backwards compatibility with Wii games.
- Wiimotes will still work with the system as will some sort of newer controllers.
- Gamecube compatibility may be dropped.
- Something will be done to try to allow users to port their virtual console and WiiWare libraries from their Wii to the new system
- Graphics will be significantly improved, especially HD support considering that NTSC and PAL standards are becoming obsolete.
- Some sort of online changes. Perhaps one friend code that applies to all games played on your machine or support of newer wireless technologies.
- A significantly larger harddrive
Yeah all those actually seem like plausible things Nintendo would do next generation. To add on they might add more functionality and compatibility then they already have with the ds/dsi.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 11, 2009, 10:32:40 AM
These two statements contradict each other.
lol
No, they do not. You do not know what a contradiction is, either that, or you do not know what the term "atrophy" means. I hate dissecting my own posts for people with horrible reading comprehension but I'll do that for you, just this once.
I said that we do not know how "true" virtual reality will affect the mind like how science fiction seems to believe it will. And the fact of the matter is, we don't. Regardless of that, our bodies if left immobile like in
some pieces of fiction, WILL atrophy and wither away. As an example in case I haven't made it clear enough by now: people that are left in a vegative state, their bodies atrophy. Body=/=Mind.
Reason for edit: italics
They don't need to change much at all, look at the other systems, all they changed is graphics and stuff. Nintendo added motion control, they don't need to add much else, what I think should happen is have motion controls AND regular controls for games where motion controls don't really fit.
I actually had the thought that Nintendo might start supporting more active online soon.
What doesn't make sense is that with all the parental measures that are in place... its not like they can't just try and limit unrestricted access to those who are allowed by their parents.
Nintendo won't release a new console; they will just release new peripherals.
Quote from: ombsz on June 26, 2009, 09:27:19 PM
Nintendo won't release a new console; they will just release new peripherals.
What's sad is that you are likely true.
@HTA: I think they won't be able to compete if they don't translate their oft times fantastic local multiplayer to online. Sooner or later, they'll either remove FC's, make them more accessible, or find ways to have both work (like in The Conduit).