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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: HTA! on June 20, 2009, 08:17:38 PM

Title: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on June 20, 2009, 08:17:38 PM
We all claim to know Advanced Techniques for our characters... but how many of you actually use them in a tense fight instead of reverting to smash spamming and roll dodge abusing?

Seeing as my mains fluctuate by my mood... its hard for me to answer that question.
Universally, I use buffer attacks frequently since they work with all character.

With Wario, I can periodically pull off a buffer CG, but its hard to do over Wi-Fi. With Mario I use fireball techs often and cape glide every once and a while. Other than that, I rarely do more than the basic short hop aerial game and creative use of projectiles (TL).

There's Luigi Jab cancels, IC's grab game (which I can use fairly well), Squirtle hyrdoplaning, and a few Ness combos I can pull off.

It seems to me sometimes you basically screw over your more advanced playing style in favor of frantic button mashing when the fight is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 20, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
Well..... thanks to me switching over to a better game cube controller, I'm not (more so) Implementing Metaknights Vanishing trick into my fights more and more.

My only problem is, IS that I can't control it... and there is a 33% chance I'll go Right off the stage. -_-

I don't know what level of glitching this is though......
My other mains..well I only know Pit's infinite flying ability, but that doesn't help me in battle at all.
Thats about it.
I can learn more I suppose but I don't have an interest in that at the moment.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Nixon on June 20, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
The only one I really use in serious matches in wolf's auto canceled fair.  I try to mortar slide a lot with him, but it's ridiculously hard and I end up just doing my dash attack.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on June 20, 2009, 09:07:13 PM
Tisk tisk Star, use that trick on me and you'll pay. :D

Mortar-Sliding with anyone other than Snake is a pain... I never even got the hang of it with him.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: FruitFlow on June 20, 2009, 09:27:41 PM
I've seen Star do that before against me.
But I always dodge it.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 20, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: HTA on June 20, 2009, 09:07:13 PM
Tisk tisk Star, use that trick on me and you'll pay. :D

Mortar-Sliding with anyone other than Snake is a pain... I never even got the hang of it with him.
What do you mean I'll pay?

I don't use it to attack people, I use it more of defense measure...to avoid things like FINAL SMASHES.

If I attack when I reappear it's out of accident to be honest with you.
I don't know how I can attack when reappearing or not.  :robotindifferent:
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: FruitFlow on June 20, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 20, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
What do you mean I'll pay?

I don't use it to attack people, I use it more of defense measure...to avoid things like FINAL SMASHES.

If I attack when I reappear it's out of accident to be honest with you.
I don't know how I can attack when reappearing or not.  :robotindifferent:
Now that you mention it, I've seen Playat do that before in vids.
I might be dreaming but I saw a few times Playat did that to avoid FSs.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on June 20, 2009, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 20, 2009, 09:42:43 PM
Now that you mention it, I've seen Playat do that before in vids.
I might be dreaming but I saw a few times Playat did that to avoid FSs.
Well, I haven't gotten the chance to dodge ALL FS's... It doesn't happen often to where it's like that......... but lol....... I have people chasing me all the time on BB on Eldin Bridge.


So much fun, I swear. :D
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Magnum on June 21, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
... Is there an advanced technique for Kirby and Zelda?
I can bunny hop and hammer with Kirby. It's pretty awesome. Yeah.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Eizweir on June 21, 2009, 10:57:30 AM
I Hydroplane, Reverse Hydroplane, Shell Shift, and all that fun stuff with Squirtle.
I can DACUS sometimes.  When I mained Shiek I started to get a consistency but I've lost it now.  I usually dashdance and foxtrot a bit, I sometimes stutter step smashes.

So yeah I generally use AT's in all my matches.  Seeing as all of my matches are usually AiB ladder matches, they're all serious.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Cornwad on June 21, 2009, 11:27:24 AM
I like abusing DKs grab shenanigans if you consider that to be an advanced technique. I also like ledge singing with Jiggly, but that hardly ever works.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on June 21, 2009, 02:09:29 PM
I just recently started using Shell Shift to Grab... I was amazed how much range it gave Squirtle. D:
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Nayrman on June 21, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
I tend to use Snake's Mortar Slide quite a bit, but mostly just for movement and attacking at the same time. I rarely, if ever, use it as part of an offensive strategy.

I can also use Sonic the edgehog pretty effectively. But that only works every now and then. It's good for mindgames though. I get my Sonic close to the edge and the little bit of doubt gets some people in a tizzy during recovering.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Red Alert on June 21, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
I don't play frantically ever. Pretty much everything I do is a super hard advanced tactic.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on June 21, 2009, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Red Alert on June 21, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
I don't play frantically ever. Pretty much everything I do is a super hard advanced tactic.
Of course it is RA.

Just because you are a god doesn't mean you have to make us feel bad.  :(
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: DededeCloneChris on June 21, 2009, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: Red Alert on June 21, 2009, 04:36:59 PM
I don't play frantically ever. Pretty much everything I do is a super hard advanced tactic.
Yes, ego is big in you.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Red Alert on June 21, 2009, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 21, 2009, 06:59:26 PM
Yes, ego is big in you.
i think we already had this discussion

Quote from: HTA on June 21, 2009, 06:34:38 PM
Of course it is RA.

Just because you are a god doesn't mean you have to make us feel bad.  :(
i don't do it to make you feel bad, i do it to get jokers like wiiboy to make fools of themselves
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: DededeCloneChris on June 21, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Red Alert on June 21, 2009, 09:14:32 PM
i think we already had this discussion
i don't do it to make you feel bad, i do it to get jokers like wiiboy to make fools of themselves
Oh, so now I'm a fool. How ironic you say that.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on June 21, 2009, 10:32:09 PM
Um... RA is actually really good Wiiboy. D:
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Red Alert on June 22, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 21, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
Oh, so now I'm a fool. How ironic you say that.
ho ho ho ho.

oh, wiiboy
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Rayquarian on June 23, 2009, 05:44:45 PM
Advanced Techniques...all I really do is short hop into a dair.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Depster on June 24, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on June 20, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
Well..... thanks to me switching over to a better game cube controller, I'm not (more so) Implementing Metaknights Vanishing trick into my fights more and more.

My only problem is, IS that I can't control it... and there is a 33% chance I'll go Right off the stage. -_-

I don't know what level of glitching this is though......
My other mains..well I only know Pit's infinite flying ability, but that doesn't help me in battle at all.
Thats about it.
I can learn more I suppose but I don't have an interest in that at the moment.
You know that the move is banned in organized play, right? =p

Anyways, I use a lot of Yoshi's techs when I play. Edge Canceled Eggs, Egg Toss Slide, Dragonic Reverse, Dragonic Trot, Release Chain Grabs (and all the included shenanigans), Lag Canceled Roll, Egg roll bounce, Yoshi Bomb Slide, Super Jump (on occasion), DJC Egg lay, Wavebounced specials, Yoshi bomb ledge grab, and Pivot grab.  Long list is long, but I know I'm forgetting things/leaving them out
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Shujinco2 on June 24, 2009, 11:56:57 AM
Zap Jumping has saved my life countless times.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Someguy13 on July 10, 2009, 01:59:24 AM
I've started using Pit's Wing Refresh to chase people after I knock them off the stage.

And I arrow loop a bit when I feel like showing off.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: chaosgear on July 10, 2009, 02:16:38 AM
my favorite is lucario.
the way i fight with him: crap this guy is fast, c stick, c stick, c stick, down b, c stick, c stick, down b, random b mashing, c stick, c stick up, get knocked off somehow. thats y im better with meta knight. random button pressing seems to get things done with him.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Red Alert on July 14, 2009, 02:30:53 AM
Quote from: chaosgear on July 10, 2009, 02:16:38 AM
my favorite is lucario.
the way i fight with him: crap this guy is fast, c stick, c stick, c stick, down b, c stick, c stick, down b, random b mashing, c stick, c stick up, get knocked off somehow. thats y im better with meta knight. random button pressing seems to get things done with him.
really to be honest you could do anything with metaknight and he'd still be really good
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on July 14, 2009, 05:43:45 AM
Quote from: Red Alert on July 14, 2009, 02:30:53 AM
really to be honest you could do anything with metaknight and he'd still be really good
More like "Annoying" >__>

@ Depster, of course I know it's Bann'd. But I don't play in tournaments at all, so I don't care.
@_@
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: HTA! on July 14, 2009, 08:39:37 AM
Most good MK's could beat your with F-air and Tornado alone.
Maybe even just F-air.
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Depster on July 16, 2009, 09:34:21 AM
Eh Dair camping seems to be the new thing =/
Title: Re: Use of AT in real matches?
Post by: Neerb on July 16, 2009, 10:00:28 AM
I don't know a single AT.