No not Sonic, we all know those newer games are fail.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sega-its-not-game-over-for-mature-wii-titles
Look at Madworld. Freaking Awesome. House of the Dead, great. While I personally was never really into these more mature games, they all have really solid ratings and feedback.
So why aren't they selling?
Madworld only had 66,000 sells in it's first month, House of the Dead: Overkill only had 45,000. What's going on?
Thankfully, Sega isn't going to let this stop them, they have more plans for the mature audience and are always willing to take the risk of releasing these games. Hopefully things will improve for them.
They're not selling because well over half of the Wii's installed base are happy with their mini-games and non-games to care about games that are actual games.
I loved MadWorld. Gameplay was just a little wonky at times and it was really short.
House of the Dead, meh, I don't like rail shooters, but I appreciate the effort.
BTW, nothing was wrong with Unleashed, just a kid friendly god of war half that kind of dragged it down.
But of course SEGA is still trying. They're publishing all of High Voltage's works. And honestly, besides Nintendo themselves and Suda51, they're the only ones that seem to know how to get the Wii to even work.
^This is true.
I played WarioWare, and it was fine. But on a few challenges, I just wanted to use my Wii Remote as a baseball bat and make a home run with the console.
The issue is that they are faltering elsewhere. Their push for the core market is fine and dandy, but that won't sell. Most of the install base IS casual, and until they can convince them these games are worthwhile, they will fail. Ultimately, it is hilarious. As sooner or later, someone will get the formula right. And when they do, #1 seller.
So is it assumed that SEGA would benefit better if they changed their focused group to Hardcore instead of teeter-tottering on Casual/Hardcore?
i never liked sega
Quote from: Www4 on August 01, 2009, 10:58:35 PM
i never liked sega
That's not the issue; the issue is them not selling their games. From what I've heard, House of the Dead and Madworld are great games. Shame they aren't selling, though.
Madworld is mediocre and House of the Dead, while fun in short intervals while waiting for a movie at the movie theater, I find it isn't that great to play at home.
Honestly, I think SEGA would grow as a company from just cutting off SonicTeam like the cancer they are. Every game they touch nowadays turns to complete poop.
Quote from: Zero on August 17, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
Madworld is mediocre and House of the Dead, while fun in short intervals while waiting for a movie at the movie theater, I find it isn't that great to play at home.
Honestly, I think SEGA would grow as a company from just cutting off SonicTeam like the cancer they are. Every game they touch nowadays turns to complete s***.
I agree. Sonic Team is really only riding on their name. It is all they have going for them.
I disagree with your thoughts on those two titles. Both, at the very least, good. The issue is - who is honestly willing to risk with Sega right now? They are incredibly hit or miss, and at retail of $60...it really isn't worth it. Sega's the ultimate bargain bin company for me.
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 17, 2009, 12:24:27 AM
I agree. Sonic Team is really only riding on their name. It is all they have going for them.
I disagree with your thoughts on those two titles. Both, at the very least, good. The issue is - who is honestly willing to risk with Sega right now? They are incredibly hit or miss, and at retail of $60...it really isn't worth it. Sega's the ultimate bargain bin company for me.
Even then, the last Sonic game they made that was fun
as a whole was Sonic Adventure(and even then, we were forced to play as the entire cast almost instead of just Sonic). They didn't develop Sonic Adventure 2(Sega Studios USA did) and Sonic Unleashed is only half decent, and even the game is held back by the werehog garbage. Sonic Adventure was a late 1998 game. It's been 11 years since they've made a game that isn't garbage.
You have to understand why we disagree on that though. You enjoy the Wii for what it is and that's fine. I can't though. Especially considering that a PC and 360 far outclass a Wii in terms of fun factor imo. I can't even look at Madworld for very long and the gameplay is repetitive and uninteresting. If I wanted to play a game with chainsaws I would play much better ones like Evil Dead, DOOM, or heck even Gears of War. It's a pretty humorous game though, I'll give it that.
As for House of the Dead. There are so many games like it and the gameplay is always the same, no matter what game it is in the genre. The plots are always terrible and the characters are always unlikable. They're great pick up and play games when you have friends over or, if like I mentioned earlier, you're at a movie theaters little arcade section, but when you're paying 50-60 bucks for a video game it isn't something that's worth the money.
The last Sega title i actually picked up was the conduit. I like their effort to bring a fps to the wii, but it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. The controls are horrible but that is the best control scheme the wii can offer for an fps which is sad. I was looking for a gamecube option or a way to hack so i could use a wired xbox controller with my wii. They say that the conduit was supposed to have new graphic technology that made it look like fps's on the PS3 and Xbox360, i don't know what they're smoking. The graphics are horrible. The story is good and somewhat unique however and it was the only thing keeping me from playing my non-existent xbox, oh wait, that's the only reason i played it to begin with.
I wouldn't say the graphics are horrible. They're decent by the Wii's standards.
You can't compare it to an FPS on the PS3/360.
Quote from: Mutilator<Seven> on August 19, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
The last Sega title i actually picked up was the conduit. I like their effort to bring a fps to the wii, but it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. The controls are horrible but that is the best control scheme the wii can offer for an fps which is sad. I was looking for a gamecube option or a way to hack so i could use a wired xbox controller with my wii. They say that the conduit was supposed to have new graphic technology that made it look like fps's on the PS3 and Xbox360, i don't know what they're smoking. The graphics are horrible. The story is good and somewhat unique however and it was the only thing keeping me from playing my non-existent xbox, oh wait, that's the only reason i played it to begin with.
How can fully customizable controls suck?
Quote from: Mutilator<Seven> on August 19, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
The last Sega title i actually picked up was the conduit. I like their effort to bring a fps to the wii, but it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. The controls are horrible but that is the best control scheme the wii can offer for an fps which is sad. I was looking for a gamecube option or a way to hack so i could use a wired xbox controller with my wii. They say that the conduit was supposed to have new graphic technology that made it look like fps's on the PS3 and Xbox360, i don't know what they're smoking. The graphics are horrible. The story is good and somewhat unique however and it was the only thing keeping me from playing my non-existent xbox, oh wait, that's the only reason i played it to begin with.
The controllers are fully customizable. If it isn't working for you, just change it. Also, how'd the multiplayer feel? I heard that's the reason to buy the game.
The most we can do is buy their games if they're good. That's sure as hell what I'm doing.
Quote from: Viewtifulboy on November 04, 2009, 12:07:44 PM
The most we can do is buy their games if they're good. That's sure as hell what I'm doing.
Even though you are no longer with us - I don't see how that does much. I bought MadWorld. Wooo. Guess what, it is still super underappreciated.