With all of this doomsday hype circulating, and a film portrayal coming out, I would like to know your take on what will happen during this supposedly darning year.
nothing, absolutely nothing, it's all hype
No one knows.
And if we last that long, I'll be a Sophmore in High School.
Seriously, the world could end anytime.
Edit: This topic reminds me of the movie "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage.
anyone who thinks anything will happen is a bit off their rocker imo.
we're more likely to die from a gamma ray burst at any second than this drivel. They had to stop making a calendar at some point considering THEY WERE WIPED OUT.
I doubt it will end. 2000 AD wasn't the end of the world, nor was 6/6/06. 2012 will not be the end of the world. To me, this is as crazy as those Baptists who don't believe in evolution.
Quote from: Jono2 on July 23, 2009, 08:20:29 PM
anyone who thinks anything will happen is a bit off their rocker imo.
we're more likely to die from a gamma ray burst at any second than this drivel. They had to stop making a calendar at some point considering THEY WERE WIPED OUT.
...Pretty much this...
...If people think that history repeats itself, that's fine, but again, not all of history must repeat itself, just like not all prophecies must...occur...or whatever...
...There are far more dangerous things that can kill us that we know of and surely there are more things we're completely unaware of which can take us down even quicker...
...Until then, we shouldn't have to worry about anything, just waste time watching American Gladiators and American Idol while sciences continue to find impediments from moral views which prevent us from solving certain problems...
...But oh well, maybe there'll be some political changes in the near future...but knowing America, maybe not...
Quote from: Jono2 on July 23, 2009, 08:20:29 PM
anyone who thinks anything will happen is a bit off their rocker imo.
we're more likely to die from a gamma ray burst at any second than this drivel. They had to stop making a calendar at some point considering THEY WERE WIPED OUT.
Hmmm... now that I think of it, you have a really good point.
If a civilization was wiped out, how do you think they could have gone any farther in making a calendar?
And besides, trying to figure out how to develop a calendar would take a lot of work, and time, wouldn't it?
So, that has further supported my lack of belief in the world ending in 2012. Thank you, Jono2.
Quote from: red7js on July 24, 2009, 09:43:42 AM
Hmmm... now that I think of it, you have a really good point.
If a civilization was wiped out, how do you think they could have gone any farther in making a calendar?
And besides, trying to figure out how to develop a calendar would take a lot of work, and time, wouldn't it?
So, that has further supported my lack of belief in the world ending in 2012. Thank you, Jono2.
and i mean, even if they hadn't been wiped out, its not like we map the calendar THAT far into the future. The person making the calendar on those stones might've just gotten tired at some point, considering how the events of the calendar he was making were what, 1300 years off/
I hope you all realize that the Mayan calender is cyclical and doesn't ever truly end. It just starts over again.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on July 24, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
I hope you all realize that the Mayan calender is cyclical and doesn't ever truly end. It just starts over again.
Right.
The Mayan calendar doesn't abruptly end in 2012. Rather, it completes a downward cycle in which it is prophesized that there is a destruction and a rebirth of the world or something like that...a cleansing, if you will.
Quote from: Zovistograt on July 24, 2009, 06:36:18 PM
Right.
The Mayan calendar doesn't abruptly end in 2012. Rather, it completes a downward cycle in which it is prophesized that there is a destruction and a rebirth of the world or something like that...a cleansing, if you will.
hmm. I didn't know that. At the same time though, people believe that Mayans predicted the end of the world, which is complete bull. It's like saying that Stonehenge has some sort of scientific purpose today.
Eh, yes. Now that I hear some very viable statements from you guys, it does seem like a bit of folly.
But I am still planning out my bomb shelter :U
Personally, I think 2012 is just going to be another year. There have been people who had worried about the end of the world around 1900, then others around some odd years, then those that were saying y2k, and finally those who are saying that 2012 is going to be the end of the world. Personally, I believe all of them have been scare tactics sore some moron who thinks it would be funny to worry as many people as possible and see them scurry like ants that had water poured on their ant hill. I agree with many that that is when the calendar will reset and that will be it, but if I am wrong, then I am wrong. Worrying wont stop the end of the world.
All the theories can easily shut down. Personally I don't think we should be taking our prophecies by someone who was wiped out anyways. Sure, there's other theories, but most of those are even cookier. The one thing I am worried about however on that day (December 21) is the people that do believe in this stuff and decide to commit crimes and such. Chances are there will be at least one thing. And probably a few suicides. I'll laugh at those people.
Well, if it is there's nothing I can do about it. I mean, what good will a bomb shelter do if it's a meteor shower?
My only guess is that if it does happen, at least a small percentage of the population has to stay alive to ensure the continuity of the race, as the Mayan long cycles give example to.
Quote from: Jono2 on July 24, 2009, 11:00:06 PM
hmm. I didn't know that. At the same time though, people believe that Mayans predicted the end of the world, which is complete bull. It's like saying that Stonehenge has some sort of scientific purpose today.
The issue is, from what we know, the Mayans had an uncanny knack of "guessing" correctly. For instance, they predicted a "fair skinned God" coming on a certain date, and they were (apparently) correct - as it matched the day white man met up with them (points to whomever knows who this person is).
Now, there are other beliefs that also match this. The Mayan calendar one just seems to be the most popular. The I-Ching theory is one of my favorites, as it was a fortune telling system in ancient China. Flip coins, match results, and there is your voodoo for the day. Then, the great man McKenna made up a plot of all the possibilities, which just so happened to coincide with items like the start of the World Wars. 2012 (December) marked the end of his graph.
Ultimately, I feel it is all bullpoop. Why? If the world does end...who cares? You won't, as you're dead. If it continues to live, well, I can say "I told you so." Opposed to believing it and being proven wrong. Really, it doesn't matter. If it happens, we won't know. So why care?
It was Cortrez to the best of my knowledge... although there was also another Spanish explorer... what was his name...
Anyway, 2012 is BS.
Just look at things like y2k and Rapture.
Not that I don't believe maybe Rapture could happen... but it was supposed to occur 2000 years after the birth of Christ.
Didn't happen.
Quote from: Mace on July 26, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
The issue is, from what we know, the Mayans had an uncanny knack of "guessing" correctly. For instance, they predicted a "fair skinned God" coming on a certain date, and they were (apparently) correct - as it matched the day white man met up with them (points to whomever knows who this person is).
Now, there are other beliefs that also match this. The Mayan calendar one just seems to be the most popular. The I-Ching theory is one of my favorites, as it was a fortune telling system in ancient China. Flip coins, match results, and there is your voodoo for the day. Then, the great man McKenna made up a plot of all the possibilities, which just so happened to coincide with items like the start of the World Wars. 2012 (December) marked the end of his graph.
Ultimately, I feel it is all bullpoop. Why? If the world does end...who cares? You won't, as you're dead. If it continues to live, well, I can say "I told you so." Opposed to believing it and being proven wrong. Really, it doesn't matter. If it happens, we won't know. So why care?
the thing is, when McKenna plotted the points between "findings" of the I-Ching... it was years after the world wars.
Cracked.com, although a humor site, shows how sad 2012 theories actually are.
Hrm. So then if Earth ended with this final Great cycle, and the Mayans predicted as such, do you think the theory of Evolution is indeed a justified theorem of chance, or do you think it was planned to both begin and end?
Quote from: KingBoo on July 26, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
All the theories can easily shut down. Personally I don't think we should be taking our prophecies by someone who was wiped out anyways. Sure, there's other theories, but most of those are even cookier. The one thing I am worried about however on that day (December 21) is the people that do believe in this stuff and decide to commit crimes and such. Chances are there will be at least one thing. And probably a few suicides. I'll laugh at those people.
What if THAT is what brings around the end of the world though?
Quite personally, I think it's Hoo-ha. Then again, it never was wise to assume it won't happen. So I'll prepare, just in case.
It still most likely won't happen though. I believe everything on it has been stated already, so I see no need to add to it.
Why are you (or any for that matter) people discussing 2012 now? ???? Shouldn't there be hype in 2012? I don't get it. Why would someone think that the world would end just because of an old calendar? Calendars do go in cycles and most are based on farming/the four seasons/astrology/astronomy etc. I don't think it'll end. Maybe a volcano will erupt and kill a village or something, but the world will not end.
So... who started the hype this year?
I agree that 2012 will just be another year. The end will start out with the rapture and the rise of the anti-christ.
I am particularly concerned because it's the day after my birthday, and the end of the world is not a nice present to give =|
Quote from: Back to TerribleFrog on July 29, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
So... who started the hype this year?
It's been theorized for quite a while now actually. Not just recently. It's only just recently that people are starting to get suckered into it without doing any research.
http://www.cracked.com/article_17445_6-best-2012-apocalypse-theories-are-all-bullpoop.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_17445_6-best-2012-apocalypse-theories-are-all-bullpoop.html)
Quote from: Zero on August 17, 2009, 12:50:53 PM
It's been theorized for quite a while now actually. Not just recently. It's only just recently that people are starting to get suckered into it without doing any research.
http://www.cracked.com/article_17445_6-best-2012-apocalypse-theories-are-all-bullpoop.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_17445_6-best-2012-apocalypse-theories-are-all-bullpoop.html)
Thanks, but I know that. I mean, who started to tell everyone about it and make them hyped up, anxious, superstitious, etc.? Why should there be any hype about it
now? It's not 2012. It's not even 2011, let alone 2010. Wouldn't people start to worry about it in 2011 and 2012? Why did they start worrying now? That's my question.
Quote from: Back to TerribleFrog on August 17, 2009, 07:35:37 PM
Thanks, but I know that. I mean, who started to tell everyone about it and make them hyped up, anxious, superstitious, etc.? Why should there be any hype about it now? It's not 2012. It's not even 2011, let alone 2010. Wouldn't people start to worry about it in 2011 and 2012? Why did they start worrying now? That's my question.
They started worrying now because 3 years is an incredibly short time to a lot of people. As humans we typically fear death, so you see where I'm going with this. It was bound to happen eventually, it just so happens that it happened sooner than later, is all.
As for who actually is to blame for all of this, I'm not sure. If you dig far back enough you could probably find the root of the theory but you probably couldn't figure out who started spreading it around recently. More than likely, it just traveled by word from random person to random person until the theory came to be common knowledge. The same thing happened with the whole June 6th, 2006 thing. People talked about it for up to two years until the date actually came from what I remember.
Quote from: Zero on August 17, 2009, 10:29:20 PM
They started worrying now because 3 years is an incredibly short time to a lot of people. As humans we typically fear death, so you see where I'm going with this. It was bound to happen eventually, it just so happens that it happened sooner than later, is all.
As for who actually is to blame for all of this, I'm not sure. If you dig far back enough you could probably find the root of the theory but you probably couldn't figure out who started spreading it around recently. More than likely, it just traveled by word from random person to random person until the theory came to be common knowledge. The same thing happened with the whole June 6th, 2006 thing. People talked about it for up to two years until the date actually came from what I remember.
Thanks. But if that's it, I think people are
way too superstitious, in a bad way. I believe in ghosts, spirits, cryptids, mythical beasts, etc., but not this. I think any of those have a bigger possibility of being real than this. Besides, it's fun to believe in those things. It's okay to believe in any of it (including this theory), but just as some people might laugh at me for my beliefs, to those who believe in this world-ending theory, I laugh at theirs.
Nothing happened the last few times this was predicted. And just because a calendar stopped doesn't mean the world has to stop, too. The world will only end in 5 billion years when the Sun inflates into a Red Giant and burns our planet to a crisp. :-\
This reminds me of the Y2k scare.
People thought "OH MY GOD, BAD SHIT IS GONNA HAPPEN! AAAAAA COMPUTERS AAAAAA MISSILES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
As I recall, the only bad thing that occurred in 2000 was when George Bush became president.
Anyway, I still think people will make a big issue of this and try to prepare for their supposed doom and be disappointed and wrong.
The 2012 doomsday idea is as silly as astrology. Simple bullpoop.
Quote from: Back to TerribleFrog on August 18, 2009, 12:41:53 PM
Thanks. But if that's it, I think people are way too superstitious, in a bad way. I believe in ghosts, spirits, cryptids, mythical beasts, etc., but not this. I think any of those have a bigger possibility of being real than this. Besides, it's fun to believe in those things. It's okay to believe in any of it (including this theory), but just as some people might laugh at me for my beliefs, to those who believe in this world-ending theory, I laugh at theirs.
lol mythical beasts. The chances of this supposed "doomsday" coming to pass far exceed the possibilities of mythical beasts existing. Namely because mythical beasts don't exist, period. Not to mention that in 2012, who knows, an asteroid could strike the planet, and that is a very real possibility. In fact, this is a possibility every waking moment of our lives. I pray that you know the meaning of the word "myth".
You're absolutely right. Obviously people are way too superstitious. Not to mention, gullible.
Quote from: Zero on August 18, 2009, 10:02:08 PM
lol mythical beasts. The chances of this supposed "doomsday" coming to pass far exceed the possibilities of mythical beasts existing. Namely because mythical beasts don't exist, period. Not to mention that in 2012, who knows, an asteroid could strike the planet, and that is a very real possibility. In fact, this is a possibility every waking moment of our lives. I pray that you know the meaning of the word "myth".
You're absolutely right. Obviously people are way too superstitious. Not to mention, gullible.
Note that I said "I think". Besides, there have been many sightings in many places of various "mythical" beasts and cryptids. Maybe I shouldn't have used that word. I think you misunderstood me. I
don't believe that minotaurs, centaurs, or the like are real. I
do believe that aliens, Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman/Yeti, El Chupacabra, Loch Ness Monster (not by the faked photograph) etc. have a chance of being real. I like to think that they are merely because science, let alone anything else, has not proven otherwise. People have tried hoaxes and things, but the evidence just shows that there's more of a possibility of these things being real or having existed than not being real/never having existed. This is just a personal belief, not an argument, or it would be breaking the rules. See "Topic: [READ BEFORE POSTING ON SD AGAIN] Forum Issues/User Pact" under
Arguments from IgnoranceAnyway, back on topic.
Even if a meteor did hit the Earth, how could it be proven that it was part of the Mayan calendar's prediction? You said it yourself, "an asteroid could strike the planet, and that is a very real possibility". Couldn't that be just a coincidence?
Quote from: Back to TerribleFrog on August 19, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
Note that I said "I think". Besides, there have been many sightings in many places of various "mythical" beasts and cryptids. Maybe I shouldn't have used that word. I think you misunderstood me. I don't believe that minotaurs, centaurs, or the like are real. I do believe that aliens, Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman/Yeti, El Chupacabra, Loch Ness Monster (not by the faked photograph) etc. have a chance of being real. I like to think that they are merely because science, let alone anything else, has not proven otherwise. People have tried hoaxes and things, but the evidence just shows that there's more of a possibility of these things being real or having existed than not being real/never having existed. This is just a personal belief, not an argument, or it would be breaking the rules. See "Topic: [READ BEFORE POSTING ON SD AGAIN] Forum Issues/User Pact" under Arguments from Ignorance
Anyway, back on topic.
Even if a meteor did hit the Earth, how could it be proven that it was part of the Mayan calendar's prediction? You said it yourself, "an asteroid could strike the planet, and that is a very real possibility". Couldn't that be just a coincidence?
Sightings don't necessarily mean anything, considering what people will do for attention, and how crazy some people are. At any rate, yeah I assumed you meant "mythic", as in Unicorns and Leprechauns, etc. Which HAVE been proven not to exist, simply because mythical beings are tied to something called "mythology" which is completely fabricated. Bigfoot and the like aren't really considered mythical, they're sort of like folk legends I guess. Not sure what to call them.
That aside and done with...
You misunderstand me. I was just pointing out the possibility. It would more than likely just be a coincidence.
Quote from: Zero on August 19, 2009, 06:17:30 PM
Sightings don't necessarily mean anything, considering what people will do for attention, and how crazy some people are. At any rate, yeah I assumed you meant "mythic", as in Unicorns and Leprechauns, etc. Which HAVE been proven not to exist, simply because mythical beings are tied to something called "mythology" which is completely fabricated. Bigfoot and the like aren't really considered mythical, they're sort of like folk legends I guess. Not sure what to call them.
That aside and done with...
You misunderstand me. I was just pointing out the possibility. It would more than likely just be a coincidence.
Okay. Good thing it'd be a coincidence. I don't want those astrologer horoscope-type people saying "I told you so" when the world ends.
About the sightings though, yes, some people will do anything for attention and/or are not in their right mind, but there are just too many sightings for that to be every case. Bigfoot and the like are called a term I previously used: cryptids. Some cryptids can be part of folk legends, tall tales, etc., and that is usually the case when a group of people suspect the existence of an extraordinary organism but can't prove it. A cryptid
(lol watch The Secret Saturdays) is an organism that is suspected to exist or have existed, but its existence has not yet been proven (or dis-proven) by science or any other means. Science can't explain everything. Miracles are usually the happenings in this case. It's the same principle for them.
I believe it's a wildly told story and is only use to scare people, it's just a trick of the media.
A person on another forum by the name of BlasphemousApples13 had a different theory for what is going to happen in 2012...
Quote from: BlasphemousApples13
Scientists say that every couple of decades, there's a storm on the surface of the sun. Usually, some of these waves of solar flares get thrown outward and hit earth's magnetic field. No damage is done to earth, but if it hit our major grids, we'd be hurled a hundred years back into the past. Transformers would be melted and blown and power would possibly be out for weeks. Most likely even more. This is the exact opposite of a natural disaster. People with more technological advancements are at greater risk while less advanced areas are at a lesser risk. We could get power back up and fix the grids, but it would take a lot of work and a lot of time. There's also a visible effect too. In the last coronal mass ejection, there were lights in the sky similar to the Aurora Borealis. In Mexico.
Indeed, it can be taken as bad news, but it's not the end of the world.
How he somehow figures it's going to happen in 2012? I have no idea. :S
A disaster could happen at anytime. A disaster being linked to 2012 would just be a coincidence, if one actually happened then. Which is unlikely.
Quote from: ◔ ◡ ◔ on September 01, 2009, 09:38:47 PM
A disaster could happen at anytime. A disaster being linked to 2012 would just be a coincidence, if one actually happened then. Which is unlikely.
If one happens on December 21, 2012, it's more than a coincidence.
Sure, it's unlikely, but if it was predicted ages ago for that specific date, something mystical is going on.
To say it's just a coincidence is just ignorant.
Quote from: Tahrann on July 25, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Personally, I think 2012 is just going to be another year. There have been people who had worried about the end of the world around 1900, then others around some odd years, then those that were saying y2k, and finally those who are saying that 2012 is going to be the end of the world. Personally, I believe all of them have been scare tactics sore some moron who thinks it would be funny to worry as many people as possible and see them scurry like ants that had water poured on their ant hill. I agree with many that that is when the calendar will reset and that will be it, but if I am wrong, then I am wrong. Worrying wont stop the end of the world.
Agreed. I might be more terrified of 2012 if we had not already made false predictions of the Apocalypse beforehand. However with all of our mistakes on this theory already, I believe it is just hype. Nothing will happen, however the movie does look interesting.
If disaster comes, then it comes.
When will it hit us? Who knows.
Just because you feel that they are false predictions that won't happen, doesn't mean you should just throw your insults saying: "That will never happen because it's filled with blasphemy and is an unintelligent thought".
That's like saying rain will never happen because it's always sunny.
But why are you guys so worried about something that has not even happened yet?
It will happen whenever it happens.
All we can really do is enjoy life to it's fullest.
Don't need to be prepared for anything really.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on July 24, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
I hope you all realize that the Mayan calender is cyclical and doesn't ever truly end. It just starts over again.
Which, if I've learned correctly, means the end of the world for
us, followed by the start of a new world for another race.
There have been like 5 different "worlds" in the Mayan Calendar, and we're the 5th one. Every time the Mayans go through a cycle, the current dominant race dies out, and starts anew with a different dominant race. I think the dominant race before Humans were Turtles or something.
In a spiritual sense of way, it's more like Evolution. ( not of what exist physically, but Mindful).
it's there on the Mayan calendar. ( and I don't mean the Gregorian calendar).
and as for the fifth world Kilroy, I think that's true. since we started from cave mans to romans, and such and such that became out of date.
Based on my religious beliefs (Catholicism), the world will not end in December of 2012. We as human beings are not to know the time or day on which the world is destroyed.
Probably just going to be another year.
But maybe because of all the hype, people will panic and in panic create the end of the world on their own.
Either way, I kinda hope some sort of excitement to make things interesting. Or maybe some sort of disaster that leads to having a life full of adventure as lame as that sounds.
I'm more worried it will end with mass suicides, like the Heaven's Gate cult
Nahh...but there has been some talk of an asteroid heading toward earth. On Friday, April 13, 2029, an asteroid will pass by earth and will later return near Earth 7 years later in 2036. It has a 3-100 probability of hitting Earth. But this information isn't final.
(Yeah the Friday the 13Th thing may seem kinda ironic for you superstitious out there).
This is a true fact. It's name is Apophis.
I think the whole thing on 12/21/12 is the date they find it will hit the Earth on 4/13/36
I keep hearing conflicting reports on the whole astroid thing. Some of what I heard suggests that it will be so far away on both loops that we'll hardly be able to see it. Other suggest it's going to graze by us. But I still haven't heard a number as high as 3% for that. Nonetheless, I find that more likely to kill us than some voodoo magic calendar and planet alignment.
I've heard stuff about the planets being in alignment. And because of the combined magnetic(gravitational?) force it will cause massive earthquakes, reshape the continents. So if that happens, then yes our world would end.
Quote from: TUROK on February 07, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
I've heard stuff about the planets being in alignment. And because of the combined magnetic(gravitational?) force it will cause massive earthquakes, reshape the continents. So if that happens, then yes our world would end.
That's a pretty big if, if you ask me. I don't see how the planets being aligned is going to cause a magnetic or gravitational force change. Any science on this?
Quote from: mackormoses on February 07, 2010, 05:19:47 PM
That's a pretty big if, if you ask me. I don't see how the planets being aligned is going to cause a magnetic or gravitational force change. Any science on this?
Google, AWAY!!!! No but think about it, every planet has a gravitational pull, if all of them are lined up? Screwy things could happen, to me this is just below asteroid collision on the plausibility scale.
*goes off to find again proof* (I know I'll find it, it has to be there. The Lizardmen did it!!!)
Quote from: TUROK on February 07, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
I've heard stuff about the planets being in alignment. And because of the combined magnetic(gravitational?) force it will cause massive earthquakes, reshape the continents. So if that happens, then yes our world would end.
in 2004 several planets (5 I think) were lined up and nothing happened
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aNcmvEpnXTd8&refer=us
Quote from: mackormoses on February 07, 2010, 04:38:25 PM
Nonetheless, I find that more likely to kill us than some voodoo magic calendar and planet alignment.
That's
religious Native American calendar for your information. ;)
I for one have never heard of this asteroid theory. Even if the asteroid does hit, will it be strong and/or big enough to completely end the world? I wonder....
Quote from: HorribleToad on February 07, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
That's religious Native American calendar for your information. ;)
I for one have never heard of this asteroid theory. Even if the asteroid does hit, will it be strong and/or big enough to completely end the world? I wonder....
Incidents like Tunguska(research it yourself) happen every hundred years or so, give or take. Incidents like that but on a much more massive scale have happened, like the impact of the Yucatan. Such an impact has enough force to cause climate changes, continent shifts(which mean raging earthquakes), and ultimately the demise of all life unable to adapt to the changes. Worst part about that is is that there is a level beyond that kind of asteroid. Such an asteroid if it hit earth would immediately destroy our entire atmosphere, boil away our oceans, and basically turn all land into one big glob of molten rock. These are several hundred kilometers across and I'd rather not think about the possibility of one hitting us, even though its there.
I believe Toutatis is the asteroid you guys are referring to, and it's estimated that its 35 miles long, which is definitely enough to cause problems for us, actually, more than enough. If it hit it'd be the equivalent to detonating all of the world's nuclear weapons THEN some. If the episode of the Universe I watched a few nights ago was right though, it won't hit us in 2012, but it could hit us in 2036. Another asteroid could hit the planet in 2028, and it's only a mile wide. Problem is, is that is still enough to cause severe problems for us. We'd probably die out either way unless we destroyed the asteroids, altered their courses, or adapted to the near impossible changes if hit. The reason they'd cause so much damage is the force involved, because these objects travel at 30,000mph+. The size only adds to the problem. Long story short, no matter the size, it's a really big problem.
I'm not sure how resourceful most of my information is though, I learned most of this from The Universe. Off topic, but I suggest watching it if you have interest in this sort of thing. It's pretty amazing what you learn about, from anti-matter to dark energy, they cover everything.
Quote from: HorribleToad on February 07, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
That's religious Native American calendar for your information. ;)
I for one have never heard of this asteroid theory. Even if the asteroid does hit, will it be strong and/or big enough to completely end the world? I wonder....
It's called Apophis.
April 13, 2036 3/100 chance of hitting so far.
It will pass earth on 2029 and then Earths gravity will have an effect on it's path directing it towards the suns gravitational field. When it loops around that, it will have another shot at hitting Earth which is in 2036.
"The projectile damage of this asteroid if it where to hit the Ocean anywhere would create a massive tidal wave about 3 miles high.
If it where to hit the ground, boulders of rocks would be thrown hundreds to thousands of miles away striking.
The shockwave of this impact is said to be as strong as 10,000 nuclear bombs. Anything hit by this shockwave would be neutralized instantly."
The debris from the impact would cloud the atmosphere, creating a mass winter. Any surviving species would suffer a terrible famine, shortage of shelter, no sun and desolate landscape making vegetation impossible to grow."
This is just a prediction from scientists.
My prediction on the Mayan calendar is that December 21, 2012 will not be the end of the world, but a big milestone to a event that will end life on Earth. There also was different Mayans calendars out their besides this one. Some ended in millenniums away from now.
I'm sorry that I can't reproduce the source, but it's been confirmed that a 35? mile-wide asteroid was responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Could this tell us anything about another asteroid and its effects on the Earth and its inhabitants? I think it may already have, seeing as you two (Zero and Razgriz) have shared such information.
I agree that any asteroid is a problem. But how are we going to find a solution?
The way you know nothing is going to happen in 2012 is because nobody has the same story. Some people say a planet is going to collide with Earth, some say a solar flare will burn up the atmosphere, and now apparently there's a giant meteor. The people who spread these rumors are severely misinformed and have little to know idea what they're talking about. I recommend watching the Bullpoop episode on it. Good stuff right there. This thread really shouldn't even be in Intelligent Discussion, as there's nothing intelligent about thinking something terrible will happen when it clearly won't.
Quote from: Cornwad on March 07, 2010, 12:42:39 AM
The way you know nothing is going to happen in 2012 is because nobody has the same story. Some people say a planet is going to collide with Earth, some say a solar flare will burn up the atmosphere, and now apparently there's a giant meteor. The people who spread these rumors are severely misinformed and have little to know idea what they're talking about. I recommend watching the Bullpoop episode on it. Good stuff right there. This thread really shouldn't even be in Intelligent Discussion, as there's nothing intelligent about thinking something terrible will happen when it clearly won't.
From what I have seen, people like to deal in "what if?"s; "What if a the world ends in 2012?", "What if we don't have enough food to feed humanity anymore?", "What if another country decides to nuke us?", what if, what if, what if. There are many people who like feeling hyped up or "in the know" about stuff because they think they are going to be prepared for anything. The reason why we are dealing with so many "what if"s is just because we don't know how the world is going to end, so we just guess, and that is why there are so many theories. Why shouldn't we just live each day like we are looking forward to tomorrow, not fearing it?
So I agree with you, I don't even understand why we have a thread about this in Serious Discussion, cause we are not going to make it happen or stop by dealing in "what if"s.
Ok then. Wait till the day to come and see what happens. Then everyone will know.
duhhh....
Quote from: Cornwad on March 07, 2010, 12:42:39 AM
This thread really shouldn't even be in Intelligent Discussion, as there's nothing intelligent about thinking something terrible will happen when it clearly won't.
Quote from: Tahrann on March 07, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
So I agree with you, I don't even understand why we have a thread about this in Serious Discussion
I think that this thread is here merely because it was meant to be
seriously discussed as opposed to histrionic posts about who'll die, how, when, etc.
bumped for move
Mack, you bumping this reminded me.
I was watching some History channel (Insta-nerd, I know) special on the Mayan calender, their calender is made up of cycles. You wanna know what the big deal is about 2012? Nothing, its the end of their longest cycle on the calender, after that, it starts over. Again.
Big deal, the world doesn't end because the second hand goes all the way around.
Quote from: TUROK on April 12, 2010, 11:44:07 PM
Mack, you bumping this reminded me.
I was watching some History channel (Insta-nerd, I know) special on the Mayan calender, their calender is made up of cycles. You wanna know what the big deal is about 2012? Nothing, its the end of their longest cycle on the calender, after that, it starts over. Again.
Big deal, the world doesn't end because the second hand goes all the way around.
Some people believe that that end is "
the end," however. That's what they're--in my opinion--wrongly hyped up about.
Im guessing the amount of hype over this will just over flow near the specified date and cause a tipping point
People will just run like mad, and there would just be an all out brawl. I know but i think it would be a mass war against the crazed minded who were hyped about it.
AKA mass suicides and revolting
As a "just in case", will any of you be doing anything differently on Dec 20/21st?
Im just going to be living my life the way i want to be...
Quote from: Lance on April 21, 2010, 06:15:32 PM
As a "just in case", will any of you be doing anything differently on Dec 20/21st?
I'll probably be sure I know where my knife is, in case poop goes down.
Psychos will probably go on killing sprees if they really believe it's the end, and if they're psycho they probably think that.