Since we needed better topics.
So what does everyone think of all the Mario RPG's? My favorite to date is still The Thousand Year Door, pitting Paper Mario or SMRPG (Prolly the latter) At my second favorite, and I've already beat them all asides from M&L3 which I asked for for christmas. I'm currently doing a god run of TTYD Where I literately do everything in the game and be really overpowered. I'm already at Level 23 with Mario and I've only started chapter 5.
so yeah, discuss.
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My favourite is Superstar Saga. The humor in it is just fantastic. SMRPG and Bowser's Inside Story both rank high for me...with the PM series being....eh
Quote from: Jacob Marley on December 20, 2009, 12:11:32 AM
My favourite is Superstar Saga. The humor in it is just fantastic. SMRPG and Bowser's Inside Story both rank high for me...with the PM series being....eh
Why eh? I mean, Paper Mario/TTYD Happen to have original partners...Ok...most of them are Mario enemies who happen to be nice, but I still feel they have so much personality as opposed to the same characters we've seen 17 billion times. Super Paper Mario...Can't really say that much in It's defense, but it at least had the most plot of all Mario Platforming games.
Yeah but they are just tedious on quite a few levels. I am not huge into RPG's by any means, but I find the M+L series enjoyable.
TTYD is fantastic, and was my favorite Mario RPG before playing Mario and Luigi 3.
He refuses to call it by its US name.
The pun is too horrible, he says.
And, contrast to everyone else, and as good as it may be, I'm not too into SMRPG. Easily the most overrated Mario game, in my opinion. It's fun, and it has its moments, but I just can't get into it as much as everyone else can.
Someone who judged SMPRG as meh? That's a first.
...I'll bulletproof the windows again.
Quote from: SkyMyl on December 20, 2009, 12:23:44 AM
TTYD is fantastic, and was my favorite Mario RPG before playing Mario and Luigi 3.
He refuses to call it by its US name.
The pun is too horrible, he says.
And, contrast to everyone else, and as good as it may be, I'm not too into SMRPG. Easily the most overrated Mario game, in my opinion. It's fun, and it has its moments, but I just can't get into it as much as everyone else can.
Someone who judged SMPRG as meh? That's a first.
...I'll bulletproof the windows again.
SMRPG is respected for creating the foundations for Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi, not for being all around godlike. It's similar to Goldeneye.
The only reason I'm taking that as an acceptable answer is because arguing on an iPod is difficult to constantly keep up with.
And because you suck at maintaining a good arguement in general.
Quote from: Jacob Marley on December 20, 2009, 12:19:23 AM
Yeah but they are just tedious on quite a few levels. I am not huge into RPG's by any means, but I find the M+L series enjoyable.
I can see why you'd find it Tedious for not being an RPG Fan, especially the first one. The first one, Partners don't even have there own HP And the game just generally goes so slow in almost every aspect. I however don't see much to find tedious in the second one except If you didn't level up well. Ok, Creepy Steeple was pretty annoying.
I still rank it: TTYD > SMRPG > Paper Mario > SS > PiT > SPM. Only a few more days until I find out where M&L3 Shall place.
Quote from: Jacob Marley on December 20, 2009, 12:24:44 AM
SMRPG is respected for creating the foundations for Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi, not for being all around godlike. It's similar to Goldeneye.
I think It's moreso the unique plotline. Let us not forget it was the first Mario game to stray away from
"Bowser stole the Princess and took her to *Insert place here* Where he plans on doing *Insert plan here* As mario platforms through *Insert worlds here* To get her back"
And It really just did flesh out the characters and the story well. As well as the other Mario RPG Games? Debatable. Well in general? Yes.
I also didn't care much for SMRPG, but PM: TTYD is indeed my favorite Mario RPG game, second is M&L: SS, it was fun and was one of the funniest Mario games ever, then it's PM1, then M&L: PiT, THEN SMRPG, yes it was fun but it wasn't as fun as the above, SPM isn't an RPG so it's not in the list, but it would be behind M&L: BIS, and I haven't even played that yet (even though it was promised to be bought for me since it came out and still no sign of it).
My favorite is easily the original Paper Mario. I love that game beyond belief. After that it would probably be Super Star Saga, then SMRPG with The thousand Year Door being my least favorite, out of the ones I've played.
I LOVE them Mario RPG's, because all the one's that I've played are well thought out and have excellent gameplay.
I really wish I still had Superstar Saga... if only it wasn't in my DS when it dissappeared...
Quote from: JrDude ½ on December 20, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
I also didn't care much for SMRPG, but PM: TTYD is indeed my favorite Mario RPG game, second is M&L: SS, it was fun and was one of the funniest Mario games ever, then it's PM1, then M&L: PiT, THEN SMRPG, yes it was fun but it wasn't as fun as the above, SPM isn't an RPG so it's not in the list, but it would be behind M&L: BIS, and I haven't even played that yet (even though it was promised to be bought for me since it came out and still no sign of it).
SPM Is rather disappointing to be honest; Even as a platformer, I found myself beating the whole game within hours. While the plot is better than most people bash it for, It just has so much that doesn't appeal. For instance, one thing in TTYD That was great was the replayability. Does SPM Have that? Not really. Also you win for TTYD Being your favorite. I don't think I can find a Mario game that competes with that as my favorite, asides from a possible Paper Mario 4.
Speaking of PM4, Oh how I can only hope for another PM RPG One. I heard from an interview of NP That they're undecided on whether they would do the platforming method or the RPG Method. I'm keeping my hopes high for RPG. I just wonder how they'll get inspiration from Galaxy considering Paper Mario got a "Base" From Super Mario 64 and Paper Mario: TTYD Got some of It's roots from Super Mario Sunshine, and for that matter, a bit from Luigi's Mansion. Edit: Oh yeah forgot, SMRPG Bases similar to Super Mario World but that one bases moreso onto mario platformers in general.
/knows too much about mario RPG's.
Quote from: RedSox on December 21, 2009, 06:14:35 AM
The thousand Year Door being my least favorite
Wait wait wait
TTYD Being your least favorite? wat? D;
I hope we get some new partners in Paper Mario 4, if there is one
I would like to see at least one or more of these, a Bullet Bill, Thwomp, Piranha Plant, Chain Chomp
Paper Mario 1.
My favourite game. Period.
Quote from: Gwen Khan on December 21, 2009, 09:47:42 AM
I hope we get some new partners in Paper Mario 4, if there is one
I would like to see at least one or more of these, a Bullet Bill, Thwomp, Piranha Plant, Chain Chomp
I agree, those would be awesome. I wanted those along with Blooper, Shy Guy, Hammer Bro (or something from the bro family), and/or Monty Mole.
If I was to pick partner's myself and only new ones, personally I'd go with something like:
-Bomb Boo (Super Mario Galaxy)
-Rex (Super Mario World)
-Blooper (Super Mario Sunshine)
-Kremling (Hey, Bumpties appear in Paper Mario yet don't in other mario games...Unless If you want to count SMW2)
-Monty Mole (Super Mario World)
-Bumpty (Yoshi's Island. See: My avatar)
-Snifit (Super Mario Bros. 2)
-Dry Bones (Super Mario Bros. 3)
Pretty good mix of old and new there.
Personally; I'd only really like having a Bumpty and Bomb Boo, and sorta a Snifit/Kremling. The other's are just ideas that I personally think would be cool. I wouldn't keep any hopes high considering TTYD Only added two new species to the set (Mouser; Ms.Mowz and the generic yoshi)
They also added a random fat wind spirit and a living shadow.
I also think it would be cool to add one of those upright mousers that throw bombs rather than a bob-omb maybe (though bob-ombs are cooler, it would be kinda creative)
I also think it would be cool if they brought someone we already know back from the past and make him a partner, IDK who, but when I thought of this, Prince Peasley came to mind.
Quote from: JrDude ½ on December 22, 2009, 12:48:31 AM
They also added a random fat wind spirit and a living shadow.
I also think it would be cool to add one of those upright mousers that throw bombs rather than a bob-omb maybe (though bob-ombs are cooler, it would be kinda creative)
I also think it would be cool if they brought someone we already know back from the past and make him a partner, IDK who, but when I thought of this, Prince Peasley came to mind.
Personally, I'm starting to wonder what happened to that Paper Mario DS Rumor; There was something running around a while ago saying we'd get a remake on the DS Of the original Paper Mario. I'm trying to find info on that for this thread. Wind/Shadow: Those were created from scratch, like Watt in the first one, and Geno/Mallow in Super Mario RPG.
Could work, but I'd just rather opt for having a Bomb-Boo. Then again, Bomb-Boo could just disappear. Mouser is an ignored enemy, and only a smaller Mouser has been done before. Throwing enemies is a plus. Could sometimes get a "Lucky" And throw out special ones.
You mean someone from the Previous Mario RPG's who wasn't a partner? Only ideas that come into my head that make any sense are: Croco (Super Mario RPG), Pennington (PM:TTYD), Doopliss (PM:TTYD; Given the ending and whatnot), and Prince Peasley (Superstar Saga)
Given that, I'd probably want Croco the most. I don't know why but when I think "Galaxy Themed" And "Previous Mario RPG Character" I think Croco. You could head back to Yoshi's Island in one chapter, face off against him a few times, and then agree to join forces over having the same goal. As long as there's only one and it doesn't turn into another SPM, I'm quite liking the idea.
Quote from: Third K on December 21, 2009, 09:30:08 AM
Wait wait wait
TTYD Being your least favorite? wat? D;
I haven't played very many out of the Mario RPGs. I've only played the ones I listed, so yeah. It is an outstanding game, but I dunno. It didn't have the charm the others did, IMO.
Quote from: Third K on December 22, 2009, 08:31:51 AM
You mean someone from the Previous Mario RPG's who wasn't a partner? Only ideas that come into my head that make any sense are: Croco (Super Mario RPG), Pennington (PM:TTYD), Doopliss (PM:TTYD; Given the ending and whatnot), and Prince Peasley (Superstar Saga)
Not necessarily, I mean someone from any old Mario game, though the only ones with roles that I can think of that would work are from RPG games.
I'd love to see those red snake things from SMB2 as a partner.
Quote from: JrDude ½ on December 22, 2009, 07:14:31 PM
Not necessarily, I mean someone from any old Mario game, though the only ones with roles that I can think of that would work are from RPG games.
Well:
SNES Era - Koopalings are the only one that comes into mind, and that makes little sense even If executed right. "HI GUYS I'M IGGY I WANNA BE A REBEL CN I JOIN U NOW?"
Sunshine - Uh, Pissnato? Forgot how to spell it.
Galaxy - Yeah; Rosalina's better off as an NPC.
And the other Mario Spin-offs don't have a great pool either. I think If we're to have a past partner who's had some character development, it should be from the Mario RPG's.
Quote from: Mystic on December 23, 2009, 07:54:50 AM
I'd love to see those red snake things from SMB2 as a partner.
You mean the Cobrat? (http://www.mariowiki.com/Cobrat)
Have to say I'd agree on it being a cool partner. If they're adding a lot of new species next time, we need one from SMB2. The game just has such an obscure pool of partners to pick from.
Yeah, Cobrat. That'd be badass.
Quote from: Mystic on December 23, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
Yeah, Cobrat. That'd be badass.
Yeah. As a huge Paper Mario fan, I'm starting to think this is the best idea for a pool of eight partners:
-Goomba (You know this will probably happen)
-Koopa (^^)
-SMB2 Partner (Shy Guy, Snifit, Ninji, Cobrat, etc)
-Something from newer games (Bomb Boo?)
-Yoshi's Island Partner (Bumpty?)
-Donkey Kong Country or w/e Partner (Kremling?)
-? - Slot up for grabs. Could potentially be a new sprite or a character from the past
-^^
And I'm trying to find more info on the Paper Mario DS Remake; Seems it was just a rumor. I was suspecting that since we already have the original on the VC.
Those would also make good enemies, though there'd probably be many new types of them, or maybe just 1, like Dark Cobrat, or something like that.
What I was thinking for a Koopa replacement, was a different colored Boomerang Bro, 'cause it makes sense, he throws a boomerang, and it comes back with the item or hits a switch, and it would make as much sense to make it just hover there as a Koopa shell can (you know, partner action button, hold, Koops stays stuck in 1 spot).
I also though maybe a Toad can take the place of Goomba, though I don't exactly know how he would attack and junk.
Another thing I'd like to see in a Paper Mario game is power ups, like Fire Mario, and maybe the new Propeler Mario (To hit high blocks and high places, instead of needing new boots, you need to find the power up then fly up there [then it disappears maybe], this would lead to some more creative levels instead of making the last levels "coincidentally" the only levels that have high jumping things)
Yet another thing I'd like to see is Partner + Mario attacks, (using an old partners as an example) like maybe Kooper goes in his shell and Mario kicks it at the enemy with a button, hits the enemy, then it comes back and you have to hit the same button again and again, each time Kooper gets faster, and he only goes back & fourth a limited amount of times (more times available upon leveling him up with the shine sprites or whatever), kinda like Bro attacks.
Quote from: JrDude ½ on December 23, 2009, 10:20:34 PM
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I hate quote trees so I'll just respond to each idea
1)Yeah; I'm sure they'll throw in "Dark Cobrat" If the Cobrat species is used. PM Games have a tenancy to reuse sprites and just edit them a bit.
2)Koopa and Goomba replacement? I think the originals of those already fill in well, but for some reason I do see toad headbonking so I guess it could work. I just don't see how Boomerang Bro would work as well considering Kooper/Koops's disadvantage is suppose to be lack of hitting air enemies in battle. Or maybe we could just throw in Dry Bones as a Koopa replacement.
3)My idea for it was having suits replace the "Curses" Or maybe just as an item that works only on field to get certain things.
3.5) Coincidence - Yeah; While PM:TTYD Had reasons to go back to places, I'd love more reasons to revisit old places in the next PM Game. Make secret sidequests have secret parts that you've never been able to open before? Could lead to some cool optional bosses.
4)"Partner + Mario attacks" If executed right then yes, like having FP And only being able to do it once per turn. The problem with the M&L Games was that I felt it was pretty much most of what I was doing the entire battle. I'd like to see more ideas stretched around with this.
Speaking of M&L, Steal the room in M&L3/Bowser's Inside Story where you can face a stronger version of any boss you've faced before.
Quote from: Third K on December 23, 2009, 11:17:58 PM
I hate quote trees so I'll just respond to each idea
1)Yeah; I'm sure they'll throw in "Dark Cobrat" If the Cobrat species is used. PM Games have a tenancy to reuse sprites and just edit them a bit.
it's not just PM games that do that, every RPG does that
Quote from: Gwen Khan on December 24, 2009, 07:50:02 AM
it's not just PM games that do that, every RPG does that
Well yeah. Mario RPG's just do it with almost say, every enemy.
Got M&L3 a few hours ago. Almost done with my PiT Re-run, and I must say; This game really lacked in character and in puzzles/exploring, but it rocked in Combat.
SS Saga all the way.
I love the bro combo attacks.
Just beat BiS A few days ago. Well hell, I'm debating between Saga's, Paper Mario (Original, of course), And Bowser's Inside Story placement. I think It'd go like:
TTYD > SMRPG > BiS > Paper Mario (Or opposite way around on that and BiS) > Superstar Saga > Partners in Time > SPM
So I really don't know. Anyways, hate/like list and summary:
Like:
-Challenge Node! Please keep this and make it better for future Mario RPG's, both Paper Mario and M&L.
-Bowser > Baby Bros in a sense of ways.
-New Badge System
-Beans - They actually have a good use like those flowers in SMRPG.
-Soundtrack is pretty neat still; Not the greatest of Mario RPG's, but It's pretty neat.
Hates:
-Minigames - Oversaturation of this - They're no fun either. M&L1-2 had a few of these but they weren't the main part in I dunno, half the content?
-It's side scrolling in Bowser's stomach, the intercourse ?
-Most of the supporting cast sucks. I won't spoil to much Starlow is a horrible introduction character compared to all the others, Fawful just pales out, Midbus unimpressed mme, More dark variations of characters? Yeah, because we know how well THAT Exexcuted
-You want Bowser and M&L To level up? Nope. You have to level them seperately!
Overall, the game is better in combat than the previous two; However the plot is pretty lackluster along with supporting characters. If you have a DS, this is a must buy unless you don't like the M&L/Mario RPG's, since It's still pretty highly.
Quote from: Third K on January 06, 2010, 01:56:21 PM
Flubber.
1. It's BIS not BiS (Bowser's in
Time Story?)
2. I haven't beaten the game, but you spoiled a bit for me that I'd rather not get spoiled on, but anyway. I think it's right and better for Bowser and M&L to level up seperately, I mean, Mario & Luigi
kinda do that already.
I also agree that Bowser is better than the babies, but WAY better.
Quote from: JrDude ½ on January 07, 2010, 04:12:46 AM
1. It's BIS not BiS (Bowser's in Time Story?)
2. I haven't beaten the game, but you spoiled a bit for me that I'd rather not get spoiled on, but anyway. I think it's right and better for Bowser and M&L to level up seperately, I mean, Mario & Luigi kinda do that already.
I also agree that Bowser is better than the babies, but WAY better.
You'll beat it soon enough. Minigames are the only thing that took me a while.
1.Whoops. I just keep calling it BiS Due to the happen I got from PiT
2.Oh really? I only said some stuff about each supporting character. I suppose the "Variation of another character" Is pretty spoilerish.
Oh yeah, I for sure love playing as Bowser more than the Babies; It's just that I'm a wild grinder, yet currently from randomly playing, I have Bowser at level 26 yet Mario & Luigi at level 39. I just really wish I
could just level both up fast, but It doesn't really render well to the plotline.
well I decided this was worth a bump along with the fact that all we do is mainly argue in this board (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCdkz9RsZU)
While It's not official work I think this brings up interesting plot discussion for the next Mario RPG. To me it honestly feels like it'd fit better in Paper Mario rather than M&L. Anyways discuss whatever from the mario RPG's once more.
We need a new Paper Mario that isn't a sequel to Super Paper Mario.
/end thread
Quote from: Zero on February 28, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
We need a new Paper Mario that isn't a sequel to Super Paper Mario.
/end thread
Disagree. New elements of SPM made it awesome.
SPM was fun, but compared to PM1 & 2, it sucked a poop load of ass.
Quote from: Mystic on February 28, 2010, 10:52:55 PM
Disagree. New elements of SPM made it awesome.
That game took everything that made Paper Mario amazing and completely poop on it.
Like what?
Quote from: Mystic on March 01, 2010, 07:45:15 AM
Like what?
The RPGness for one thing.
the turn-based battles, the badges, the much better replay value.
Those are somethings that vaguely appear/don't appear in SPM.
making it crap compared to PM 1 and 2.
Discussing Paper Mario 4; It's actually semi-confirmed, just no idea what combat system it would be. I darn well hope they go with the RPG style (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25552278)
Quote from: Mystic on March 01, 2010, 07:45:15 AM
Like what?
since you asked I'll be glad to list : ) (without just blantingly saying "it's not an rpg")
-The battle system is downright terrible for a platformer/adventure/whatever. It's practically made to either be abused or just run away from anything. (seriously people have fully beaten this game on level 6) this is pretty bad considering Paper Mario/TTYD were some of the best darned balanced RPG's ever.
-To add onto that the overall length of the game was pretty terrible. It's replay value or even playability again is terribly.
-The character cast was insanely soulless. Instead of breeding us with 1 silent protaginist only, we get 4. now that isn't a bad thing if the rest of the cast can make up for it but we have tippi who moans the obvious, mostly filler villains made to be a rival to another villain, a bunch of pixl's, and horrible one time chapter characters (Seriously, are any of these people as interesting as Pennington, Doopliss, Herringway, Gus, etc?) who are all squares. did I mention it hardly gives a poop for having paper mario characters as enemies and instead has more squares?
-It took out most of the unique aspects of the series. Where's one battle where you needed timing? Or how about having to equip through badges? The only unique aspect still left is Partners and even that was ripped.
-plot was "see how much we can rip off from other games and have the most cheesy and pointless ending ever".
Leading us to a game that hardly had much in it's overall view, mediocre at best platforming, insanely broken system, and took out most things that established the series. Sure it has a great soundtrack and some nice controls but the other mario rpg's do that as well.
Quote from: Mystic on March 01, 2010, 07:45:15 AM
Like what?
Have you even played the first two games? It's blatantly obvious.
No Paper Mario fan wanted a Mario sidescroller instead of an RPG. SPM is NOT an RPG.
Quote from: Zero on March 01, 2010, 06:07:42 PM
Have you even played the first two games? It's blatantly obvious.
No Paper Mario fan wanted a Mario sidescroller instead of an RPG. SPM is NOT an RPG.
Yes I did play them. And I know that SPM is not a RPG. That made it fun.
Quote from: Zero on March 01, 2010, 06:07:42 PM
Have you even played the first two games? It's blatantly obvious.
No Paper Mario fan wanted a Mario sidescroller instead of an RPG. SPM is NOT an RPG.
To be fair,
very few people said they would like some more levels like the Bowser missions in TTYD
But really those weren't fun for being a platformer. I found those moreso fun on being able to ram the poop out of everything.
...but those levels weren't all that great. They lasted 5 minutes at the most and were composed of you just blasting your way through with firebreath.
The RPGness of Paper Mario is why people love the series.
The only good part about SPM was the music, otherwise it was a disgrace to the series.
I liked the Bowser levels in PM: TTYD, though they were pointless and short, they were fun and funny <3
Quote from: Zero on March 12, 2010, 09:42:19 AM
...but those levels weren't all that great. They lasted 5 minutes at the most and were composed of you just blasting your way through with firebreath.
I agree but hey; That's how they got the original idea to even come up with SPM last I remember from an interview. I would like more of those in a Paper Mario 3 (True one); Maybe with a bit more point but it made the missions feel less forced and a more enjoyable break to the end of each chapter.
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The RPGness of Paper Mario is why people love the series.
Agreed and partly disagreed. If It was just a generic J/RPG It'd probably be much less "Loved" But there's so many things about it; Small but big that make it all compose together.
Quote from: Mystic on March 01, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
Yes I did play them. And I know that SPM is not a RPG. That made it fun.
While you may like it more just due to not being a Mario RPG most (If not all) of the mario regular platformers are superior.
You know... I still haven't gotten Super Paper Mario...
I'd really like to play it despite everyone saying it's bad compared to the rest.
Quote from: Java on March 13, 2010, 08:01:53 PM
You know... I still haven't gotten Super Paper Mario...
I'd really like to play it despite everyone saying it's bad compared to the rest.
Think that, instead of RPG elements taking over old Mario school style, the style takes over RPG elements. You could say is sort of a spin off, but at least it has a lot of humor.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 13, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
but at least it has a lot of humor.
Which is really the only thing that kept me playing, frankly.
Quote from: Zero on March 14, 2010, 07:12:08 PM
Which is really the only thing that kept me playing, frankly.
The humor value in it? Granted Mario RPG humor value is good most of the time but I found the humor in that lacking.
I really completed it because I was renting it and I wanted my "lol i beat all mario rpg's and everything extra" ribbon since it's my favorite series ever hands down. I still need to get all the beans and finish off the challenge node : (
Now playing SMRPG. Haven't gotten too far (just got the Star after Booster), but love it as much as ever. The VC version is surprisingly decent.
They cleaned up some of the sound glitches. I love that game.
...Isn't the VC version the same asides from a few slight changes?
Whatever. Still a fantastic game. I feel like finishing it off.
Quote from: Thirdkoopa on May 30, 2010, 12:33:35 PM
...Isn't the VC version the same asides from a few slight changes?
Whatever. Still a fantastic game. I feel like finishing it off.
Yeah all they did was fix a few of the sound bugs, like I said
Surprised I haven't replied to this. It's a month old but hell I'll bump it.
SMRPG is fantastic. My favorite Mario RPG to date.
Paper Mario and TTYD were both great, but Super Paper Mario was terrible.
Mario and Luigi was fun, I didn't finish PiT, and I never got a chance to play BiS.
Am I missing any?
BIS is certainly the best Mario RPG I've ever played. The bosses had very tricky ways to trick you to defend at the wrong time, and with the optional bosses feature makes this much better. :)
It's not important, but it's BIS, not Bowser's in Story.
I've only ever played SMRPG, and a little bit of Partners in Time, so I can't really say I have much of an opinion.
I've heard Paper Mario was great though.
The only Mario RPG I ever finished was SMRPG. I played Paper Mario: TTYD and the 2 DS ones, but never finished 'em.
Mine, hands down is the original paper mario...even though I'm older I can play through it in a day lol
I've played all the Mario RPGs. It's tough deciding which is the best, though.
The first two Paper Marios will always be my favorite.
I think I might have said that somewhere here before. Can't remember. Oh well, I'll say it again and again.