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Nationality = Nation
Race = Race
Nation =/= Race
Nationalism =/= Racism
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 06:16:49 AM
Nationality = Nation
Race = Race
Nation =/= Race
Nationalism =/= Racism
You're ignorant.
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 06:16:49 AM
Nationality = Nation
Race = Race
Nation =/= Race
Nationalism =/= Racism
Nation = Race
If you're from America, you're American. If you're from Africa, you're African. If you have ancestors from Africa but you were born in America, you're African American.
Nationalism promotes one country and culture over others. Racism promotes one race over others.
If Nation =/= Race people from Germany wouldn't be German. They would be called white and have it left at that.
Quote from: Customrobo13 on February 21, 2010, 10:14:57 AM
If Nation =/= Race people from Germany wouldn't be German. They would be called white and have it left at that.
Not true. The German race is associated with Germany. How can pure blacks, Irish, and Chinese people be the same race (American)? Race is bloodline.
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 10:24:20 AM
Not true. The German race is associated with Germany. How can pure blacks, Irish, and Chinese people be the same race (American)? Race is bloodline.
I think you just proved yourself wrong.
Quote from: Customrobo13 on February 21, 2010, 10:25:39 AM
I think you just proved yourself wrong.
How so? By saying people of different races are not the same?
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
How so? By saying people of different races are not the same?
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 10:24:20 AM
Not true. The German race is associated with Germany. How can pure blacks, Irish, and Chinese people be the same race (American)? Race is bloodline.
Those don't contradict at all.
Quote from: Michael Myers on February 21, 2010, 11:47:04 AM
Those don't contradict at all.
If they were all American, why would you call them Chinese? :U
uh guys, race is solely skin color
african americans are not always black, no? a white man born in africa who moves to america is an african american too
there is no "german race", the race of the german people is typically caucasian (although it wouldn't be wrong to say they could be anything else). the german have their nationality, german. chinese people are of the (i think its mongoloid?) race, black people of the negroid race.
so if youre gonna be all technical about it, nationalism isnt racism. two nationalist americans can be white and black. they both favor their country over others. the white man likes the black man because he is american. the white man may dislike an african because he is african, but it is because he is african, and not because he is black. all africans aren't black anyway.
Race is skin color and features.
Caucasian
Native American
Black
Asian
Pacific Islander(?)
I can't remember all of them.
But Race and Nationality/Ethnicity aren't the same thing.
Nationalism is zealous pride in your nation and being a citizen of it, and that your nation is best.
Racism is zealous pride in your race and ancestry, and that your race and ancestry is best.
The two are not mutually exclusive. Example:
You can be of Chinese ancestry and thing that the Chinese race is superior, but feel that as an American Citizen, the United States is the greatest country in the world.
I don't care what you call it, the US is still the best country in the world and just about every other one is garbage.
Quote from: Aquaman on February 21, 2010, 08:21:38 PM
I don't care what you call it, the US is still the best country in the world and just about every other one is garbage.
And this kids, is an example of nationalism.
No, Ultranationalism = racism.
Nationalism is pride, nothing more. It constitutes promoting ones culture, not forcing it/using violence/hate messages, etc.
At least, our entire grade 11 year here says that :D